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Oct 11, 2013 5:16 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Federal Shutdown Hurts Shinnecocks, Threatens Brookhaven Lab

Oct 16, 2013 10:35 AM

Despite being optimistic that a solution, albeit temporary, was in sight to end the federal government shutdown, U.S. Representative Tim Bishop held a conference call with reporters on Friday in an attempt to update the public on local entities, including the Shinnecock Indian Nation, that have been impacted by a sudden loss of funding due to the shutdown.

According to Mr. Bishop, the Shinnecock have had multiple infrastructure projects, including a suspended road construction project, negatively impacted. In addition, the Shinnecock Early Learning and Day Care Center and the Shinnecock Health Clinic have had to furlough staff members whose salary was paid through federal programs.

At the Brookhaven National Laboratory, while surplus from past budgets has allowed projects to be sustained, Mr. Bishop warned that the federal laboratory was being “pushed up against its outer limit of being able to operate, if this goes on too much longer.” He went on to say that he could not be specific as to how long “too much longer” would be, and said he didn’t want to create a panic.

Also being affected, according to Mr. Bishop, were Hurricane Sandy relief programs, because the Army Corp of Engineers has been severely furloughed, as has FEMA.

Mr. Bishop went on to say that the Plum Island research center was still retaining a “skeletal staff” since the initial reports of furloughs there, the Mattituck inlet project’s funding is stalled, and new research grants for Stony Brook University researchers have been stalled.

Lastly, Mr. Bishop expressed disappointment over a now increasing backlog of appeals and claims at the U.S. Department of Veteran’s Affairs, a backlog that he said was slowly being brought under control after reaching “epic proportions.”

Looking forward, Mr. Bishop said that while “information is sketchy and still taking form, it appears for the first time that productive discussions are going on in a way that would potentially extend and reopen the government and allow us to pay our bills.”

Pointing to an October 17 debt-limit deadline, where the government would no longer be able to pay its bills without extending its credit, Mr. Bishop said the Senate appears to be looking at a six month extension for the debt limit and the reopening of the government, while the House of Representatives seems to be looking at a six week extension.

“The President said he’d be willing to accept a short-term deal,” said Mr. Bishop, who noted that President Obama didn’t indicate if a short-term deal meant six weeks or six months.

“Yes, we are just pushing the problem back six weeks, but we do need some time here to resolve some issues,” he said.

Mr. Bishop explained that on October 17, if there is still no resolution, the federal government will have about $30 billion in cash, and on any given day has about $60 billion in bills.

“Our outflows will exceed our cash on hand and we simply will fail to meet all of our obligations,” Mr. Bishop said. “I’m being specific here to counteract what some people are saying which is that it is no big deal. It is a huge deal in terms of disruption of services that people have come to expect, and simply paying people for the work that they’ve done and benefits they’ve earned.”

As negotiations moved forward this week, the Senate has agreed on a plan to open the government until January 15, as well as the debt ceiling until February 7. The GOP controlled House has expressed an unwillingness to accept that plan, but on Tuesday, when a bipartisan House agreement failed, it appeared as if the only other option would be to accept such a deal—or default.

Mr. Bishop expressed confidence that a resolution would be reached, because “the stakes are way too high and a great number of [Republicans] are looking to step back from the ledge, privately shying away from the stance of the House Republicans.” He went on to say that “We’re a long way from home, but things are encouraging. They’ve driven themselves into a canyon and now they are looking to get out of that box.”

“The polling on this has been devastating to them,” he added, referring to a recent Wall Street Journal poll that recorded its lowest ever approval rating for the Republican Party.

When asked if he would consider opening only certain portions of the government if a temporary deal couldn’t be reached, he said he was opposed to that strategy.

“Why are we letting the Republicans pick and choose to reopen which portions of the government that they’d like to see open. Let’s open the whole government,” he said. “They’ve already dropped their demand to defund Obamacare, so what are we doing here? Let’s do our jobs. What, we’re going to open the Department of Transportation but not the Environmental Protection Agency because Republicans don’t like the EPA?”

When asked how his constituents have been reacting to the shutdown, Mr. Bishop said the calls he’s been getting “are generally running ‘Come on guys, get this done.’”

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By chief1 (2770), southampton on Oct 11, 13 10:39 PM
Anger towards minorities? People immigrate here, can't speak the language get a job, support themselves, and own a house in a couple years.For some reason I have to work like a dog and pay my taxes to support the lazy. Get a job support yourself and stay out of my pocket.
By chief1 (2770), southampton on Oct 12, 13 1:28 PM
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Chief, don't blame the success of others for your own failures.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 12, 13 2:11 PM
So let me get this straight people on the right are workers and pay taxes and people on the Left suck off the government correct? If you pay taxes you are unsuccessful. If you are on welfare and beating the system you are successful? That's some great logic
By chief1 (2770), southampton on Oct 12, 13 6:07 PM
No the people on the left need to indenture the poor with welfare. This is how they will keep the poor as their voting flunkys.
By chief1 (2770), southampton on Oct 13, 13 10:41 AM
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Left, right, blah, blah, blah. You two, Phil & Cap illustrate what's wrong with this country. You're both wrong just like the members of Congress and Obama. Only they are wrong, because they've been bought off, you two are wrong because you buy the load of malarkey that both sides sell the sheep. Unless you two are one skitzo posting under two handles.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 13, 13 12:13 PM
Misquoted by phil yet again, no surprise there... Besides that was said purely to twist the panties of the likes of you. Which it seems to have done splendidly, as you still all hung up on it. Lol.

I love your inability to address what I said with a rational or logically based response. Instead you seek to discredit it, by bringing up an unrelated comment from over 9 months ago, way to make your case.
Oct 13, 13 1:13 PM appended by ICE
Here is the actual verbatim exchange, which makes it evident that phil did indeed misquote what was said. Not only is his strategy flawed, but he lied about what was said. Maybe you should go into politics phil. There have now been 242 deaths from guns since the Sandy Hook shootings on December 14th. By philathome (6519), Southampton on Dec 27, 12 4:27 PM Like Reply Report as inappropriate The world is facing a population problem... Every little bit helps! By ICE (1135), Southampton on Dec 27, 12 5:25 PM Like Reply Report as inappropriate
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 13, 13 1:13 PM
Veterans Remove Barricades from Memorials and Bring Them to WH

On Sunday, protesting the barricades placed at memorials around Washington D.C. by the vindictive Obama administration, veterans removed the barricades and proceeded to take them to the White House.

It would be advisable not to mess with former Marines, Rangers and Navy SEALs that gave it all in the name of country!
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 13, 13 3:44 PM
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They are right to do so. Now the president should call Ted Cruz and make him come clean up his effing mess!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 13, 13 4:25 PM
well, technically it is FDR's mess
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 13, 13 6:54 PM
So no Barrycades for illegals but Vets get SWAT team, natl guard, police, armored vehicles WTF
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 13, 13 7:18 PM
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Nice way to Treat a peaceful protest on a Sunday morning , incite an incident with riot police. Where were these blue helmets during the occupy disgrace?

See how our veterans are treated at their own memorial. Last week, the Obama administration opened the mall for immigration activist protest yet today blocked WWII vets in wheelchairs to see the WWII memorial.

What is happening to our country?!"
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 13, 13 7:26 PM
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By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Oct 13, 13 9:06 PM
Stay classy...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 13, 13 11:23 PM
She IS crazy.

She's enough of a lunatic, and she has company in the Republican Party, to suggest we SELL our national parks for profit to their crony capitalist pals. Just like Dianne Feinstein and her crony deal with her real estate broker selling our old post office properties at fire sale prices.

Get real.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 15, 13 1:07 PM
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By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Oct 14, 13 5:03 PM
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Study: Americans in All 50 States More Conservative Since 1964
According to Cornell political scientist Peter Enns, conservatives are beginning to break through across the country. Enns found that there has been a conservative opinion shift in every single state across the country.
Between 1964 and 2014, America shifted heavily when asked whether every person should be provided a job by the government, or whether government should allow everyone to get ahead individually. Asked whether ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 14, 13 8:03 PM
The spiritual leaders of the teaparty movement are Sarah Palin, Ted Cruz, and Michelle Bachmann. Remember that the next time your tempted to speak sense to one of their followers.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 14, 13 8:58 PM
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Dag Your Obamaphone is ringing. I think its your Mom. You left a mess in the basement again.
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 14, 13 9:48 PM
The greater your fortune,
The greater your wealth,
The greater your debt to society.

Those are the means to create an egalitarian republic.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 16, 13 3:41 AM
Umm, no. It is a shame that you and the rest of the liberals don't understand that we live in a Constitutional Republic where the goal is one of an equal guarantee of opportunity, not a guarantee of success.

Some how you think that if John Smith has a Ferrari then Joe Doe should have one too. It doesn't matter if John worked hard, saved, came up with a great idea; no, if John has a Ferrari then Joe deserves one.

What you describe isn't a republic, you describe Socialism and history ...more
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Oct 16, 13 11:33 AM
You don't know the meaning of the word "Socialism", like every other dope who throws it around like a common grammatical article these days.

Leaving the world better than you found it, and having nice things is okay. Living in a world where the grievous mistakes of a tiny minority takes all that away from you is not okay.

Please stop being so obtuse.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 18, 13 7:40 AM
How can anyone be against a smaller, more efficient government?
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Oct 16, 13 7:11 AM
It's just not as simple as that. Thirty years of "smaller government" has given us an intolerable degree of anarchy.

Decades ago, the federal government managed to fund the GI Bill, rebuild Europe with the Marshall Plan, stick it to the Soviet Union using the Berlin Airlift, and with our national laboratories and scientific minds began to develop all the technologies that gave us computers, the internet, cell phones and the moon landing without going into trillions of dollars worth of ...more
Oct 18, 13 7:49 AM appended by Mr. Z
“There once was a time in history when the limitation of governmental power meant increasing liberty for the people. In the present day the limitation of governmental power, of governmental action, means the enslavement of the people by the great corporations who can only be held in check through the extension of governmental power.” ~ Theodore Roosevelt
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 18, 13 7:49 AM
Have a bit of history. No charge...

Theodore Roosevelt, Address at the Coliseum, San Francisco, Sept. 14, 1912

LIMITATION OF GOVERNMENTAL POWER

In one of his campaign speeches Mr. Wilson made a sweeping assault on the Progressive platform and programme and defined his own position as to social and industrial justice. According to the stenographic report of his speech, Mr. Wilson stated that there is no hope for social reform through the platform of the Progressive party, ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 18, 13 8:00 AM
The teaparty and Ted Cruz have just suffered the worst humiliation in American History. They have destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans for what? All of you "patriots" who have followed him like fixed sheep, when it came time for him to put his money where his mouth is he folded like the cardboard cutout he is. Guess you'll have to go back to Sarah. I cannot stop smiling.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 16, 13 4:08 PM
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to progressnow:

The Tea Party may have suffered grievously in the eyes of rational America but Ted Cruz is just where he intended to be. His presidential prospects are enormously improved now that he has been transmogrified as the Jeanne D'Arc of the "righteous" Republicans who control the party. Having received the Republican nomination, he will then worry about convincing the enormous mass of moderate American voters that he is not an egomaniacal extremist.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 16, 13 4:46 PM
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No.
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Oct 17, 13 6:40 AM
Thanks, Mr. Cruz! You have helped to solidify Obamacare for all Americans!

A minority of voters nationwide support the GOP's call to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, according to poll findings released Wednesday.

The survey conducted by Democratic firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner showed that 58 percent of voters want the health care law implemented and then fixed, compared with only 38 percent who share the view held by many Republicans that Obamacare should be repealed ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 17, 13 10:08 AM
The survey conducted by Democratic firm.....that is all you need to say right there. Thank you.
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Oct 17, 13 10:57 AM
Preliar, the more you tepartiers deny the facts, the more we dems win. You and your party have learned nothing from this debacle which cost 24 BILLION DOLLARS (so much for your concern for spending)
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 17, 13 11:12 AM
You would know Phil, you are an expert.
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Oct 18, 13 6:43 AM
To progess.... It may have cost 24 billion ( which is still debatable) but if the repubs had gotten their way the country would have saved over a trillion.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 18, 13 6:47 AM
Phil You really are the poster boy for the liberal left.
1. No One in this country (legal or illegal) is denied healthcare.
2. The CBO and the Joint committee on Taxation (JCT) have prepared a new analysis of the ACA on employer sponsered plans. They both find that the # of Americans losing employer based coverage could be dramatically larger than previously estimated. The CBO and the JCT estimate that the ACA would reduce employmemt based insurance coverage by 20 million (compared with ...more
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 18, 13 9:58 AM
And how would you have saved the 1 trillion, Razza? Another unfunded Medicare part d? 2 or more wars in Syria or Iraq? Or would you have saved the money by giving tax cuts to millionaires and corporation? Maybe you'd save it by increasing subsidies to oil companies? Or maybe you'd have saved it by defaulting on the debt?
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 18, 13 4:33 PM
1. Cut foreign aid in half
2. eliminate earmarks.
3. cut aid to States by 5%
4. reduce nulear arsenal and space spending
5. enact medical malpratice reform.
6. Increase medicare eligibilty to age 68 (if UR under 50)
7. Raise SS retirement age to 68 (if UR are under 50
8. Tighten eligibility for SS disability
9. Use Obamas estate tax propsal of 3.5 mil
10. Implement the Bowles Simpson plan to eliminate tax loopholes
11. Repeal Obamacare. strip it down and ...more
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 19, 13 10:06 AM
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I feel bad that there is so much hope for Obamacare. It really will not work. Insurance models are extremely complex and insurance companies were not just charging what they charged out of "greed." Similar to a business that charges $10 for a product it costs $20 to make, it will crumble because the numbers don't work.

I am surprised though that so many people were willing to believe that the way to fix a system where health care costs are rising too fast is to add 50 million people who ...more
By RSEQNY (6), East Quogue on Oct 18, 13 5:01 PM
Looking at the 2012 Fortune 500 rankings, turning a profit is not one bit of a problem for the "health care" industry. In fact, they are swimming in profit at the expense of the most vulnerable members of our society.

First number is the Fortune 500 rank, followed by profit margin in MILLIONS of dollars.

Take a GOOD, hard look:


1 UnitedHealth Group 22 $101,862.0
2 WellPoint 45 $60,710.7
3 Humana 79 $36,832.0 ...more
Oct 19, 13 12:43 AM appended by Mr. Z
At the top of the list, revenue exceeded 100 billion dollars. Rounding out the top 10, Molina brought in revenues of 4 billion dollars. United Healthgroup's net profit was 5.1 BILLION dollars. Not million, BILLION. It would be entertaining to hear this industry cry "POVERTY", if it weren't so pathetic...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 19, 13 12:43 AM
Z give me a break. Walmart makes over 450 billion in revenue. With the exception of United Health those revenues are small potatos comapred to other industries (Oil and gas blow it away). Met Life, Guardian, Chubb, Vyrta, MDNY the list goes on and on of companies that either got out of the market or couldnt turn a profit in the health care industry.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 19, 13 10:26 AM
And, you're being raped at the pump too...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 19, 13 10:47 AM
All industries will rape you in some form. It's called turning a profit. Prices are dictated by competition. Instead of always being so negative towards big business just think of all the people they employ and the tax revenue they generate. Most liberals hate big business but its those tax revenues that fund the programs they desire.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 20, 13 6:43 AM
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Price gouging is unethical, immoral, and illegal.

Corporate revenue and profits in America are at an all time record high, while corporate income tax revenue per GDP is just short of an all time low. You're being [expletive deleted], and are too brainwashed to know it...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 20, 13 1:58 PM
That's right comrade. Cut off the hands that feed you. Socialize all of them for the better good of the country.
Don't you find it somewhat interesting that corporate income tax per GDP is at an all time low while Obama is president. Seems like you and Phil are the ones who are brainwashed
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 20, 13 5:17 PM
It's the cumulative effect of over thirty years of pro-corporate legislation, and more than one hundred years of corporate personhood and lobbying.

Are you seriously so obtuse, or do you work at being ignorant of American history and governmental policy?
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 20, 13 7:17 PM
Phil.

BE NICE.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 21, 13 12:41 AM
Well, well, well. Here we are 2 and a half years later and United Health is pulling out of Obamacare because of projected billions in losses. Seems UNH took a "GOOD, hard look" at the numbers as you suggested.
By RSEQNY (6), East Quogue on Apr 22, 16 1:19 AM
Thanks Barak
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Oct 20, 13 5:16 AM
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"The first duty of the republican woman was to instill republican values in her children, and to avoid luxury and ostentation."
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 20, 13 5:34 AM
Mr Z, Local 84, Philth, No Progress, HHS, Mets fan, Witch H. and PRR and have been declaring the death of the Tea Party for the last three years. To quote Mark Twain, "The announcement of our death has been greatly exaggerated"
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 20, 13 8:01 PM
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Agreed, The psychopathic practice of the progressive radical left to simply declare an issue dead and buried just because they wish it so might be scary if they possessed the physical stature beyond that of girly-men but since they don't even rise to that description what would you expect.
They are beginning to sound like Baghdad Bob....

We have driven the tea party back into the sea never to be heard again !
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 20, 13 8:10 PM
Just like the "Tea Party", you have no idea what "Republicanism" is, or means.

I would gladly see thirty small bakeries serving five hundred square miles, than one single corporation serving a thousand square miles.

Y'dig?
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 21, 13 12:36 AM
Funny since you just celabrated the creation of the biggest bakery ever that will be the single payer bake shop and since they do not even know how to get there web site up and going you can bet the twinkies are gonna taste like S***


Y'dig?
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 21, 13 1:17 AM
i catch on fast and i can see how your view point is hypocritical. you only seem to like the thirty small bakery's if they are liked up by a union or government regulation.

why you people despise freedom is a puzzle to me. we had the greatest country in history and you want to change that and bankrupt us. i do not get it. what kind of spite drives you. that you are celebrating the destruction of children's futures.
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 21, 13 1:23 AM
z if you hate this country so much why don't you just move to a place where your perfect Utopia exists. Someplace like Mars.

By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 21, 13 4:49 AM
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By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 21, 13 8:56 AM
or Seattle
Oct 21, 13 8:56 AM appended by 27dan
Sorry for the double post
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 21, 13 8:56 AM
You've caught nothing but propaganda and a disease called ignorance. The ACA will have just as good of an impact as the Safe Food and Drug Act.

Now where would we be without that wonderous regulation a "progressive" thought up?

If you think the ACA will bankrupt this country, be my guest to do so. However, when or even if you see all the lives of children that aren't ruined because they can finally get the proper care they need despite a "pre-existing condition" or lack of affordability ...more
Oct 21, 13 2:17 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW: The Federalists sought to undermine Republicanism with similar libertarian style values as today's Republican Party. By nature, this republic is designed to reject aristocracy, oligarchy, and what has been freshly coined "plutocracy". If such were not true, "Republican Motherhood" would not have given us abolition of slavery, women's suffrage, and the core value of avoiding luxury, and ostentation. And, the Federalists lost. Badly...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 21, 13 2:17 PM
Whats wrong with opening up the system to competition across state lines and get out of the way the feds cant even build a simple web site
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 21, 13 3:17 PM
Consumer Reports: Stay Away From HealthCare.gov
October 21, 2013 9:56 AM
Consumer Reports, which publishes reviews of consumer products and services, advised its readers to avoid the federal health-care exchange saying they need to clean up the mess they’ve made,” the magazine said, having tested the site themselves over the course of the past three weeks. Its a mess and sites security concerns as well as a waste of time trying to log on.

By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 21, 13 3:47 PM
Oops:

Company Behind Troubled "Obamacare" Website Donated Heavily To Republicans In 2012
Oct 21, 13 4:10 PM appended by Mr. Z
"...according to Federal Election Commission records, that company’s PAC (CGI) gave more to House Republicans than House Democrats during the 2012 cycle — including a $2,000 check for the GOP’s chief scandal investigator, Oversight Committee Chair Darrell Issa. What’s more, executives of CGI Federal personally gave more than twice as much to GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney than to President Obama. The contractor has also feasted on more than $2.4 billion worth of IT work dating back to the early Bush Administration." And: "FEC records indicate executives for CGI gave $5,550 to GOP Romney and just $2,000 to Obama — not quite the behavior of a company indebted to the president for its contacting jackpots. Also, the company’s PAC, CGI-AMS, gave $48,000 to 28 GOP members of the House including $5,000 to Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), $6,000 to Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.), and $2,000 each to Issa, Appropriations Committee Chair Hal Rogers (R-Ky.), Rep. Kevin Yoder (R-Kan.), now-Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.), Rep. Martha Roby (R-Ala.). Yoder, Wolf, and Cole also sit on the Appropriations Committee. Issa, Wolf and Cole also received contributions from the PAC during the 2010 cycle. Attempts to reach Issa, Yoder, and Wolf were unsuccessful Thursday. The PAC gave $32,000 to 13 Democratic House members. They also gave $29,500 to Democrats running for Senate and $19,000 to Republican Senate candidates, reflecting a savvy record of giving more to members of the parties in power in each chamber. The bipartisan giving makes sense given that CGI’s first federal contract for IT work started in 2001 and, as a multibillion-dollar firm, has many lobbying interests in congress."
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 21, 13 4:10 PM
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Methinks the lobbying period had everything to do with the contract being awarded. Amazing what can happen when you're paid up with the right people.

K Street needs to go bye-bye...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 21, 13 10:43 PM
Nice point to Erin ... lol
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 21, 13 8:08 AM
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When it comes to preventative care (endless tests) luxury medicine and more social programs and counseling its not my problem. get a second job and work 14 hours a day like we did if you want Cadillac care.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 21, 13 2:53 PM
GALLUP: OBAMA DROPS BELOW W LEVELS,

Served up, deluxe style! I ' dig


U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Oct 2013 at 07:28:26 PM GMT is:

$ 1 7 , 0 8 5 , 8 8 1 , 0 9 2 , 7 2 4 . 4 7
Oct 21, 13 3:31 PM appended by They call me
" The recovery is slow " By philathome (6264), Southampton on Sep 25, 6:06 PM
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 21, 13 3:31 PM
to Undocumented Democrat:

Dear me, I certainly HOPE that the Tea Party doesn't disintegrate anytime soon. It's presence is needed to draw off the pestilential pus of psychopathy that pervades the Republican Party. Once the last of the pathogenic members of the Republican Party has followed the effluvium of Tea Party ideals of self-interest and meanness to its noxious source, one hopes they will reconstitute as a sovereign entity, thus allowing traditional Republicans to once again hold ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 21, 13 4:12 PM
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CBS: Obama headed toward 'Credibility Death Spiral'
Oct 2013 ... wow this from CBS

CBS News Political Director John Dickerson: “The problem here is that the administration has gotten into, sort of, a credibility depth spiral, There have always been charges from the right that the president’s health care promises were not true. But now those charges turned out to have merit.” uhh oh... Developing
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 21, 13 5:08 PM
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the fact is, to the progressive socialists Obamacare in nothing more than a structure to establish more and more control and power over the people of America .

Hence why they are so fearful of the Tea Party, as you stated

Go Ted!
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 22, 13 1:58 AM
to Captn America:

Quote:

"Hey look, highthat wants one of the two establishment parties responsible for the current mess to regain "traditional" can't tell them apart status, go figure."
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Traditional, as in relying on reasoned debate, collegiality and compromise for the running of government, rather than on blind, irrational "faith"; and traditionally conservative, ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 21, 13 9:51 PM
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Ever see that movie where the Know it all collage professor now retired and all he has to eat is dog food.


Just saying
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 22, 13 1:39 AM
Website issues with ACA nothing more than an invented distraction. The individual mandate fines only apply if a consumer does " not have access to affordable health insurance " if the website does not work and you claim that is your only access, then you will not be penalized. When the webstie does work (which it will, in the meantime you can still use the freaking TELEPHONE) it will be a different story so, no big deal.

Thank you Hertiage Foundation for INVENTING the individual mandate ...more
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Oct 22, 13 1:26 PM
Sean Hannity had a show with 3 people, claiming they have all been hurt by the affordable care act. It was all a like. Salon went out and did PERSONAL INTERVIEWS with each of those three people and found out that the ACA would actually HELP THEM!!!! One of the couple's claimed they had to fire people from their company because of the insurance mandate - only, the mandate applies to companies with 50+ empolyees and they only had FIVE!! Another couple claims their insurance premium has sky-rocketed ...more
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Oct 22, 13 1:29 PM
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Was one of them "They call me?"
By VOS (1224), WHB on Oct 22, 13 1:33 PM
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to Captn America:

Let's be clear, the only party that espouses inflexible adherence to ideology without exception is the House Republican Party. It is the Democrats and all-Republicans-not-in-the-Tea Party who espouse collegial debate and compromise. The latter is "traditional". The former, (enthrallment to extreme dogma) is Neo-Republicanism.

Rational people agree that the debt must be erased by a combination of spending limitations and tax increases. It is the extremist Republicans ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 22, 13 1:43 PM
Obamacare popularity: 42%
Republican popularity: 32%
Teaparty popularity: 26%
Ted Ceuz popularity: 14%

Source: Washington Post
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 22, 13 6:14 PM
Phil is finally right about one thing. The democrats did make the tea party. Their policies and the ACA are major reasons why the tea party exists today
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 22, 13 11:07 PM
The "Tea Party" was begun in 2002 by the Koch Brothers. FreedomWorks still owns the original DNS.

Simply stunning...
Oct 23, 13 12:05 AM appended by Mr. Z
And, on a lighter note, in 1952 a full 32% of all federal revenue came from corporate America. Today, that figure is less than 10%. Happy "Hump Day", you've been [expletive deleted]...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 23, 13 12:05 AM
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As James A. Garfield so wisely opined, "History is but the unrolled scroll of prophecy."

Today's History Lesson:

"So long as governmental power existed exclusively for the king and not at all for the people, then the history of liberty was a history of the limitation of governmental power. But now the governmental power rests in the people, and the kings who enjoy privilege are the kings of the financial and industrial world; and what they clamor for is the limitation of governmental ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 23, 13 12:57 AM
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The tea party did not explode until the Health care reform acts were pushed upon the American people..
"A GVT that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it away"...Barry Goldwater
"Blessed are the young for they shall inherit the debt".. Herbert Hoover
"GVT is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big apetite on one end and no sense of responsibility on the other end"... Ronald reagan
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 23, 13 6:58 AM
That last quote is the most hilarious.

Apparently tripling the national debt, slashing revenues, raising the debt ceiling eighteen times, Iran-Contra, creating the financial environment which led to the S&L scandal, and laying the foundation for Oligarchy is "responsibility".
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 23, 13 7:40 AM
"The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it."

~ Woodrow Wilson

"This is a bit of outworn academic doctrine which was kept in the schoolroom and the professorial study for a generation after it had been abandoned by all who had experience of actual life. It is simply the laissez-faire doctrine of the English political economists three-quarters of a century ago. It can be applied with profit, if anywhere at all, only in a primitive ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 23, 13 7:49 AM
Wilson is spot on. Maybe you want to go back to the days of no corporations and all mom and pop stores but its unrealistic. The global economy dictates otherwise.

Over 50% of the workforce are employed by business with fewer than 500 employees.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 23, 13 8:44 AM
No. And, there hasn't been a time with no corporations since sometime in the sixteenth century. What we need to end is what no man who signed the Declaration of Independence would have stood for, or remotely even tolerated: corporations being involved in civic life. The most destructive way for a corporation to exist is being married to, or meddling in the affairs of governing. Colonial America learned from hard experience that Corporate and Government power are direct adversaries. They don't ...more
Oct 23, 13 4:35 PM appended by Mr. Z
Oh, and in case you missed it both those quotes were from their respective 1912 election campaign speeches. In fact, the latter quote was Roosevelt's retort to the above statement by Wilson. You really should heed the advice of Mr. Garfield...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 23, 13 4:35 PM
There is already a way for all of American corporations employees to get health care


BUY IT!
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 23, 13 7:02 PM
The government keeps subsidizing corporations because the minimum wage is so low. Maybe if McDonald's had to pay more for employees and raise the price of their frozen dog burgers maybe mom and pop's would have a chance. Meanwhile, corporations have plenty of money left over for important stuff like naming stadiums. Spending thousands per game on luxury suites for ordinary sporting events. A lot of corporations are generous, but the donation loophole should be closed. Every dollar a corporation ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Oct 23, 13 4:15 PM
Your so green you shold be

Jets fan
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 23, 13 7:03 PM
Maybe Cap doesn't realize the amount of money spent on "entitlements" because the minimum wage is so low.

"We" support corporate America's bottom line with our tax dollars.

BTW, McDonald's CEO compensation is 13.75M, and the departing CEO will take home 27.7M including a 10M dollar cash payment. But, there's no money to raise worker's wages in a world where their counterparts worldwide average 2M dollars per annum and their counterpart's performance as a whole is far better...
Oct 23, 13 11:09 PM appended by Mr. Z
Video: McDonald’s tells workers to get food stamps ******* A new recording captures the fast food giant's worker 1-800 number touting public assistance
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 23, 13 11:09 PM
Even more reason to stay in school and get an education.
Raising the minimum wage can also have negative effect such as job loss, increased out sourcing and decreased benefits

" the world needs ditch diggers too"
Caddy shack
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 24, 13 7:04 AM
" the world needs ditch diggers too"

And they should be paid as little as possible, and nowhere near a living wage because they didn't stay in school, right? Henry Ford was smart enough to know what driving GDP, and a living wage means. Are you?

Do you listen to yourself? Actually, it was hard to hear you over the raging inferno of you being burned over your above post about Woodrow Wilson...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 24, 13 7:46 AM
LOL Woodrow wilson. Get over yourself. I said I liked the quote. I never said I endorsed his politics.
An action (raising minimum wage) will often have a reaction (job loss, reduced benefits, higher prices, increased out sourcing).

Ford did a lot of great things but he also hated people of jewish decent, was against labor unions, hired private investigators to spy on his employees, and was the father or outsourcing.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 24, 13 11:22 AM
Wilson was openly racist. Whoopee.

You liked the quote, but you fail to see it doesn't work, and that Wilson openly admitted it didn't work by his deeds and actions. Ford didn't need unions in his factory. People made a living wage working for him.

Your head is too thick, and your ways too ingrained for you to grasp what it means to live in a republic and you're blind to the words of Lord Acton and how without rules most people dance on the backs of the already bruised to line ...more
Oct 24, 13 7:38 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, I must add that a BS talking point embellishing some faux, alleged freedom will garner points, and votes with an uninformed, sensationable populace. But, that's all it's good for. To suck in the gullible. In reality, centuries of history dictate that anarchy does not work because people cannot be trusted to be altruistic. If such were true, we wouldn't need regulations, laws, or a court system. As it stands, and has stood for millenia, we do...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 24, 13 7:38 PM
Z you are a meglomaniac who is living in a time warp. What makes you an expert in anything (LOL please don't answer I read a lot)! Please list your qualifications.
I have been called many things but stupid isn't one of them. I grew up with nothing, got a bachelors degree from an Ivy League school in economics and then went on to get a masters degree in business administration. I own a successful small business that employees over 20 people and still feel I have much to learn and experience ...more
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 25, 13 7:14 AM
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By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Oct 25, 13 8:42 PM
You have a degree in economics?

And, you believe in "trickle down" economics?

As far as your query, let's see. Being "gifted" helps, lots of books, and "open courses" are a good thing, pigskin worthy, or not. Since you're curious, my mere associate's is in specialized technology in the electrical field including industrial, commercial, residential, solid state, integrated circuits, programmable logic controllers, integrated controls, and computer repair. The bachelor's in electrical ...more
Oct 26, 13 11:43 PM appended by Mr. Z
"History is but the unrolled scroll of prophecy." ~ James A. Garfield ---- BTW, I'm sure you know where you can put the "time warp"....
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 25, 13 11:43 PM
Thanks Z. That was my good chuckle for the day. We all enjoy getting lectures about the world economy from a guy who collects and repairs junk, has no real business experience and has an electricians associates degree.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 26, 13 8:38 AM
Then Razza woke up!
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Oct 26, 13 9:35 AM
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Right. No business experience.

Just a simpleton on staff at one of the oldest family businesses on the East End...
Oct 26, 13 12:27 PM appended by Mr. Z
And you actually think that degree didn't involve coursework about operating a business? Just because you have a piece of pigskin, don't underestimate a perceived opponent who doesn't. You may rediscover the hard way that practical, real world experience trumps book learning most every time...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 26, 13 12:27 PM
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Thanks guys. That was hilarious. A simpleton on staff and a guy with a plethora of real world experience. I see why you guys agree on so much.
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 26, 13 3:20 PM
to razza5350:

I've frequently gotten criticized by folks who don't get the joke in my username but your egoistic attitude is no joke even if it does make you one unwittingly. You might try convincing people of the validity of your point of view by the cogency of your arguments rather than by patting yourself on the back for your academic qualifications. At the very least, you could allow someone else to do the patting lest you throw out your arm.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 26, 13 4:01 PM
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If the middle class is dependent on eating McDonald's as a way to save money on their food bill, they are already losers. Already proven in San Francisco with higher minimum wage, unemployment is down. If you give ten dollars an hour to a minimum wage worker what do you think they are going to with that money, save it, they'll spend it. Mcdonald's has been doing it for years and years just hiring part timers to avoid insurance and overtime. I paid over $1900 a month for insurance, with Obamacare ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Oct 23, 13 6:03 PM
In other words, Cap, raising the minimum wage does not have a negative affect on hiring. Why are people like you so against others making a living wage? Is it because you lacked the skills to move ahead yourself and now you feel no one should do better? That is the definition of communism.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 23, 13 7:23 PM
Instead of the government giving food stamps, raise the minimum wage,so government doesn't have to subsidize corporations huge profits. As Henry Ford once said, pay people enough so that they can at least buy his product which was a car. Just smart business and good for the country. $7.25 is a travesty in this day and age.The people who complain about Obamacare that their premiums were raised were paying $300 a month, time for them to pay more. More jobs available, according to you the whole country ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Oct 24, 13 5:17 AM
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Abolish the minimum wage and let the marketplace take care of it! Compensation should be an agreement between the single worker and the owner keep the government out of the equation
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Oct 24, 13 6:43 AM
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Spoken like a true Robber Baron.

Your naivete is rivaled only by your ignorance.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 24, 13 7:39 AM
Some jobs are worth more than others Komrade.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Oct 24, 13 10:14 AM
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Anarchy doesn't work. It's been tried, and failed twice in the last century. NO job is worth less than a living wage. Labor is prior to, and superior to capital. Without labor, the fortune of a "job creator" does not exist.

Do yourself a favor, and just stop drive by posting.

You look like the gent who parks in front of barn doors...
Oct 25, 13 7:31 PM appended by Mr. Z
Order without liberty and liberty without order are equally destructive. ~ Theodore Roosevelt
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 24, 13 7:31 PM
to Captn America:

Your posts become ever more irrational and hysterical as the full implementation of the ACA approaches. The healthcare.gov website is a disaster, not so Affordable Care. Extending the deadline for individual insurance is the only change under discussion if the problems aren't quickly remedied. It would be a prudent act if the registration difficulties continue but hailing it as a presage of the collapse of Affordable Care is pure cant. As for Ted Cruz, your portrayal ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 24, 13 1:36 PM

Health insurance cancellation notices soar far above Obamacare enrollment rates

Hundreds of thousands of Americans who purchase their own health insurance have received cancellation notices.Because the plans do not meet Obamacare’s requirements.

Do the Math!



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/24/health-insurance-cancellation-notices-soar-above-obamacare-enrollment-rates/#ixzz2ihQRZtnk
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 24, 13 11:08 PM
Health insurance cancellation notices soar far above Obamacare enrollment rates

Hundreds of thousands of Americans who purchase their own health insurance have received cancellation notices.Because the plans do not meet Obamacare’s requirements.

Do the Math!

By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 24, 13 11:08 PM
to They call me:

Another inane post by a right-wing Cassandra.

The reasons, obviously, that more people don't yet have insurance under Affordable Care are that: 1) Enrollment just started & 2) The healthcare.gov website is a mess. (D'uh!)

Meaningful comparative figures won't be available until after the March 31 enrollment deadline has passed but that won't stop the enthralled Chicken Littles on this forum from claiming that the sky is falling every time that a cloud ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 25, 13 12:44 AM
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Posted on October 24, 2013 George Will: Obamacare Glitches Pose "Mortal Threat" Of Adverse Selection

CHRIS WALLACE: George, is this just a contractor problem like HHS says?

GEORGE WILL: No. It goes all the way to the top because it threatens the health care law itself and I'll tell you why. First, this has produced some unintentional amusing moments. There was a headline I think we have that was in the New York Times this morning that contained a wonderful word.

WALLACE: ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 26, 13 9:31 AM
All the way to the top ? You mean Mr. Z Knew about this along as well. OMG
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 26, 13 9:43 AM
Take your home wireless network as a prime example. If you have a single band wireless router working at 150 GB/s, more than three computers will eat up all the bandwith and the network will be painfully slow.

Same thing with the ACA servers. They were designed for 60,000 simultaneous users, not 250,000. As far as an hypertext, or ActiveX issues they will be addressed by the programmers as they are identified. There are literally over 500 million of lines of code powering the site, ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 26, 13 1:06 PM
Choices through the exchange in Suffolk have been released. Employers will have the privilege of choosing between three carriers. The LIJ plan which will effectively have zero doctors on the Eastern end of Long Island, Oxford who is dropping there current portfolio 1/1 (if you like your plan you CAN'T keep it) thus raising premiums for many employers and health republic. A company funded by tax payer dollars that is unproven. We still do not know what their provider network will look like. Stay ...more
By razza5350 (1910), East Hampton on Oct 25, 13 2:54 PM
Thanks Barak! What can possibly be wrong with a high deductible policy combined with a HSA ? He is a liar and a con man
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Oct 26, 13 8:28 AM
don't forget community organizer...................
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 26, 13 9:44 AM
NY Times: Obama Deserves an 'F' on Healthcare

by John Sexton 25 Oct 2013

Princeton economics professor Uwe E. Reinhardt gives President Obama a letter grade on the roll out:
President Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School. How would he have graded a student’s performance on, say, a term paper or test that the professor viewed as “unacceptable,” especially when there was “no excuse” for the paper’s deficiencies? ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 26, 13 9:26 AM
Applied,registered,logged in. Saved $200 a WEEK with a better policy, now what 27 dan? You are the perfect anti-american who keeps wishing nothing but harm for America. You hope that the stock market crashes, that we get attacked, that we get sucked into another war. Here's some advice, go out into the world and make something positive happen. Instead you and your cronies have no solutions(like the party of do nothings) and sit around whining, wishing for Americas demise to prove yourself right. ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Oct 26, 13 9:54 AM
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It's really a cultural issue. They actually believe that their ideals are healthy for the commonwealth, when history proves otherwise.

There is a reason 4 of the first fifteen states in the Union are titled a "Commonwealth". They called it "The Age of Happiness" for a reason. History has already dictated time and again the current ideas and values of this "Republican" party will fail, and fail badly when the people reject aristocracy, and oligarchy.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 26, 13 12:23 PM
It's not to good to be true, it's real dollars with a better policy. Or I can wait for the party of do-nothings and wait and wait for all my wildest dreams to come true. That's right, there are no solutions, just whining from the right.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Oct 27, 13 3:15 PM
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STATES MOVE TO TAX MILES; BLACK BOX IN CARS TELL TRIPS

A black box in your car is the latest push from the Obama administration. a source of tax revenue
The devices would track every mile you drive , possibly including your location, and the government would use the data to draw up a tax bill.

Ah, Mr. Z I tried to tell you this two years ago during the Cash for Clunkers charade and Phil said sarcastically " Yes Dan, the government is out to get you" Well Phil yes I believe ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 27, 13 2:03 PM
That is the reason they will never get my, 1967 "seat belt exempt" Hemi.

NEVER ! ! ! even if gas goes up to $12 a Gallon, Any questions.

Land of the free My a**

By the way did I say NEVER.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 27, 13 2:15 PM
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"Cash for Clunkers"

Most of the reason a Chevy small block engine doubled in price. They filled every engine traded in under the program with silicon, rendering them permanently scrap metal. At this point, I will never buy a vehicle with a model year later than 2002. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing, including technology.

Good thing I got my four bolt main 350 over a decade ago...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 28, 13 5:01 PM
Yes sir you did say Never,

woo Rahh

Is it a Cuda ? Nice Car and thanks for the loop hole, I will be shopping tomorrow for something pre 67
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 27, 13 2:22 PM
Phil said the US is the only country with people with the mentality that they don't think that they have any obligation to the social structure

I Say,

GET OFF MY LAWN !
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 27, 13 2:29 PM
Wow plug this into U Tube,

Maher vs. Liberal Panel: Liberals "Worried They're Going To Be Called Racist If They Criticize Muslims"

Guess there is a first time for everything I actually agreed with Bill Maher,

Maybe I can even find something to agree with Phil on someday.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 27, 13 3:11 PM
i just read an artical in the la times that said californians are discovering what obamacare will cost them and they don't like what they see.
it said middle class consumers are staring at hefty increases on their insurance bills as the overhaul remakes the healthcare market. Their rates are rising to offset the higher costs of covering, poorer people. experts say the website glitches are not nearly as daming as the sharp price increases for individual policies that have the greatest potential ...more
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 27, 13 6:56 PM
Phil, Do you know what dawned on me tonight,

You have such contempt for the republican party that you find some new goofy avatar each day to show the world how much you hate the people who are supplying your side with all the free stuff.

Maybe you should instead be saying , Thank you for being there to misappropriate funds derived from the sweat of our labor.

Just Sayin
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 28, 13 1:07 AM
CBS, '60 Minutes' Try to Atone for Benghazi Cover-Up

On Sunday evening, CBS News' 60 Minutes featured an investigative report on the Benghazi attacks by Lara Logan. Logan's reporting confirmed that the Obama administration had been warned, months in advance, about inadequate security at the U.S. facility in Benghazi, and that IT KNEW !!! the story about a YouTube video was untrue. It was a reversal for CBS News, which played a key role in the Benghazi cover-up in 2012.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 28, 13 1:47 PM
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By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 28, 13 7:23 PM
AXELROD: 'Most' Can Keep Their Health Plans Under Obamacare...
Most applications 'won't be used for immigration enforcement purposes'...
FLA some woman's rates jump from $54 a month to $591...
GOP selling '404: ERROR' stickers...
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 28, 13 1:36 PM
"Obama admin. knew millions could not keep their health insurance"

He will just say he didn't know anything until he read it in the newspaper.

By Lisa Myers and Hannah Rappleye

NBC News

President Obama repeatedly assured Americans that after the Affordable Care Act became law, people who liked their health insurance would be able to keep it. But millions of Americans are getting or are about to get cancellation letters for their health insurance under Obamacare, ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 28, 13 7:37 PM
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It's precisely why historically centrally-planned economies don't work. The Soviets had a plan for this much steel and this much concrete and it had no response to what was out there in the market and they overproduced. So, they had a lot of production numbers and an economy that was unworkable. obama is deciding if you're a single male in your 60s, you still need maternal care, You've never smoked dope but still need the substance abuse stuff.
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 28, 13 7:56 PM
You want a catastrophic plan which is very rational, but Jay Carney is saying, you know, 'you're too stupid to understand what you want.' Once you eliminate the market response, which is a lot of people deciding I know what I want better than the bureaucrat and they're eliminating this. That's the essence of what's happening and that's why it's not going to work.


By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 28, 13 7:59 PM
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captain , joe, didn't the president say "you can keep your plan period" ? i don't understand why people are not talking about this. it seems that the administration needs these people to move into the exchanges to pay for the plan and they lied to us all along. this is criminal
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 28, 13 9:06 PM
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The suggestion that Affordable Care assumes that individuals are too stupid to figure out what health insurance is good for them is asinine. The fact is that individual preferences in health care have been deemed subordinate to the health care needs of the nation as a whole. Affordable Care is universal and comprehensive so that premium costs are spread over the entire population in order that no one is denied coverage because of illness (when he most needs it.) It has minimum standards so that ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 28, 13 9:59 PM
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By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 28, 13 9:43 PM
its ok if a person who is so Axis to kill a child ignores me. i gave up on that person fairly looking at my questions over a month ago. he is very child like and i really do not mind.

as far as the health care thing goes it is so wrong. broken promises should mean something. why is the news ignoring such an obvious issue. we were lied to.
Oct 28, 13 10:00 PM appended by Erin 27 E
sorry that was my spell check thingy it should have said anxious
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 28, 13 10:00 PM
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amplituhedron.

Good night.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 28, 13 10:58 PM
Thanks Dan, I guess the nanny state just keeps getting worse soon there will be absolutly no way left to be able call Phil a "disingenuous person" without getting red inked.

Anyway did you see this


Dem Strategist: 'Party Is F****d'

Ron Fournier, an honest liberal at National Journal, reported Monday that a senior Democrat strategist, with close ties to the White House, sent him an email over the weekend. The subject line was "Dem Party Is F****d." The substance ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 29, 13 11:42 AM
It's you
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 29, 13 4:30 PM
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By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 29, 13 5:03 PM
Good post Dan , Thomas Sowell is a clear thinking great American

By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 29, 13 7:49 PM

There’s Something Absolutely Insane Happening In The House Right Now

Posted on October 29, 2013 by Mansur Gidfar


There’s something absolutely insane happening in the House of Representatives right now.

To fully appreciate said insanity, we have to take an unpleasant but brief trip down memory lane — back to the darkest days of the 2008 financial crisis. Insurance giant American International Group (AIG) was on the verge of collapse, and ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 29, 13 11:07 PM
Oh please the only house anything insane is going on is the WHITE HOUSE!

The scam is up. DID YOU HERE THAT MR Z ?

THE SCAM IS UP. THE PEOPLE WILL FINALLY SEE THE TRUTH!

ITS OVER! Stop ignoring the POTUS signature failure was a bait and switch SCAM!
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 30, 13 12:01 AM
“Those who oppose reform will also tell you that under our plan, you won't get to choose your doctor, that some bureaucrat will choose for you. That's also not true. Michelle and I don't want anyone telling us who our family's doctor should be, and no one should decide that for you either. Under our proposals, if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor. If you like your current insurance, you keep that insurance. Period. End of story.” – President Barack Obama

Now evabody ...more
Oct 30, 13 9:20 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
evabody come gatheroun wit a big glass on the front stoop and chill.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 30, 13 9:20 AM
Did he here it hear?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Oct 30, 13 12:04 AM
did who know?

You mean our by stander and chief

WASHINGTON — President Obama finds himself under fire on two disparate fronts these days, both for the botched rollout of his signature health care program and for the secret spying on allied heads of state. In both instances, his explanation roughly boils down to this: I didn’t know.

By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 30, 13 8:58 AM
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By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Oct 30, 13 12:04 AM
Where is phil this morning ? Phil... Phil?

must be in the bathroom

There are now umpteen examples of the President being unaware of crisis after crisis, scandal after scandal...this can only mean two scenarios, either he is disenchanted/detached/uninterested or these denials represent attempts at plausible deniability. The first situation spells incompetence, the second untruthfulness. Either situation is unacceptable for the highest office.
Oct 30, 13 9:02 AM appended by joe hampton
Jon Stewart mocked President Obama last night after the chief executive suggested that he had no knowledge of the problems with the Obamacare website until shortly after it launched. "You didn't know there would be problems until the day it launched?" Stewart asked incredulously. "This is your signature program; your name is on it!"
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 30, 13 9:02 AM
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President Lied, Media Credibility Died

as well as the legacy of many media outlets and left wing socialists that hang out on these very pages!

On Monday evening, NBC News reported that President Obama wasn't just wrong, he was willfully lying when he said that if Americans liked their insurance plans, they could keep them under Obamacare.

By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 30, 13 3:45 PM
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Most liberals have hair like Stalin ?

I do not understand this please explain
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 30, 13 7:11 PM
very funny joe you made me laugh
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 30, 13 7:13 PM
The Fact Checker
The Truth Behind The Rhetoric | By Glenn Kessler
Obama’s pledge that ‘no one will take away’ your health plan

“That means that no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

...more
Oct 30, 13 6:56 PM appended by joe hampton
The president’s promise apparently came with a very large caveat: “If you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan if we deem it to be adequate.” Four Pinocchios
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 30, 13 6:56 PM
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Poll: Obama approval at all-time low

The president’s disapproval rating stands at 51 percent. | AP
By JOSE DELREAL 10/30/13

President Barack Obama’s job approval has dropped to an all-time low, according to a new poll released Wednesday.

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey shows that a mere 42 percent of Americans approve of Obama’s job performance, down five points from a poll conducted in early October. The president’s disapproval ...more
Oct 30, 13 10:25 PM appended by They call me
43% Think Benghazi Will Hurt Hillary Clinton’s Candidacy in 2016
By They call me (2756), southampton on Oct 30, 13 10:25 PM
obama said if you like what you have, you can keep it, period. When you add the word period, what you mean is there is no context, there are no percentages, 1%, 5%, 100%. There is no extenuations, there are no explanations, it's period. And that's the reason it passed, That was an extremely important element of the law. That we now find out is a flat out lie.
What I find remarkable is that the president gives these speeches and he seems to live in a universe where his rhetoric trumps reality. ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Oct 31, 13 12:22 AM
President Obama shouldn't have made the unqualified assertion that everyone could keep his current health insurance plan if he wished. While it was literally true at the time he made that statement, since plans in force that predate the passage of the Affordable Care Act are grandfathered and don't have to meet the new minimum standards, it was nonetheless misleading.

However, extremists' obsessive harping on this moot point, their malicious glee at the malfunctioning of the healthcare.gov ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 31, 13 2:01 AM
CBS: ObamaCare Launched After Failing Hundreds of Tests

These were the simplest sort of "beta" tests, the kind of thing I used to do all the time in my IT career. You plug in some simple manufactured data and see if the system can swallow it and regurgitate on command.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Oct 31, 13 8:05 AM
Obama lied, knew he was lying and did it for three years. So much for being the most transparent administration ever. He knew that if he told the truth he would have lost the election. He has committed mass fraud against the American people and even his loving media can not protect him.

He is a liar and he'll get what he deserves; some where, some time.
All villains do.
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Oct 31, 13 6:54 AM
Oh dear, now the True Believers are claiming that President Obama "lied for three years" that insureds could keep their current insurance plan if they wished. In reality, the President made that statement in 2009, and he was telling the unassailable truth. Everyone enrolled in a health insurance plan in 2009 is entitled to keep that identical plan regardless of ACA legislation.

The fact is that those people who have been issued cancellations by their insurance companies are enrolled in ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Oct 31, 13 12:13 PM
Why Iceland Should Be in the News But Is Not
By Deena Stryker

An Italian radio program’s story about Iceland’s on-going revolution is a stunning example of how little our media tells us about the rest of the world. Americans may remember that at the start of the 2008 financial crisis, Iceland literally went bankrupt. The reasons were mentioned only in passing, and since then, this little-known member of the European Union fell back into oblivion.

As one European ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Oct 31, 13 1:33 PM
CNN Falls To Lowest Primetime In Over A Year; Fox’s Megyn Kelly Returns To Cable News Ratings Top Spot
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 31, 13 9:33 PM
i am glad i love her she is tough and honest
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Oct 31, 13 9:34 PM
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Joe said

Jon Stewart mocked President Obama last night after the chief executive suggested that he had no knowledge of the problems with the Obamacare website until shortly after it launched. "You didn't know there would be problems until the day it launched?" Stewart asked incredulously. "This is your signature program; your name is on it!"
By joe hampton (1478), south hampton on Oct 30, 13 9:02 AM

Guess Philly doesn't read your posts Joe to bad maybe he would learn something
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Oct 31, 13 10:08 PM
HH I call bovine excrement on your assertion that individual health care preferences are subordinate to the health care needs of the nation as a whole. What kind of socialist tripe is that?! Your boy Barry is succeeding in turning our still great nation into a worker's paradise, look to history to see how THAT has worked out. Still don't know what's wrong with a catastrophic policy and a funded HSA.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 1, 13 8:53 AM
Six people signed up for obamacare first day. How about we take obamas insurance and every politicians until they fix this mess.
By chief1 (2770), southampton on Nov 1, 13 9:10 AM
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to bigfresh:

Quote: "HH I call bovine excrement on your assertion that individual health care preferences are subordinate to the health care needs of the nation as a whole. What kind of socialist tripe is that?!"

You are objecting to a FACT, not an opinion. Affordable Care mandates that all Americans have a minimum level of health insurance regardless of their individual preferences in order to spread the insurance risk over the entire population and make premiums affordable for ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 1, 13 1:02 PM
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"The GOP House passes a bill to deregulate derivatives less than 5 years after the worst financial crisis in history, with 75 out of the 80 lines drafted by Citigroup lobbyists. Wall Street then filled lawmakers' pockets with millions in campaign cash to guarantee they prevail."

Any questions?
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 1, 13 11:12 PM
"Wall Street then filled lawmakers' pockets with millions in campaign cash to guarantee they prevail."
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 3, 13 1:33 AM
Why is it that Americans don't have the freedom to choose their own health insurance? I just don't get it. Why must the liberal nanny state make decisions for us? We can make them ourselves, thank you very much. It's like choosing a car, buying a home or investing in a stock. We can handle it.

So why must the government tell me and everyone else what we can and cannot buy?

By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 1, 13 11:32 PM
This whole Obamacare business Is a stealth tax and the redistribution of wealth It represents the greatest-ever expansion of the liberal entitlement-state dream.Trouble is most Americans outside NY, Detroit, LA and Chicago I don't want that dream
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 1, 13 11:33 PM
to 27dan:

It's pretty simple, 27dan, whether you choose to buy a car or home or to invest doesn't affect other Americans' ability to engage in these activities, nor are the activities themselves essential to life as is health care. However, if you decline to participate in minimal health insurance, you deprive other Americans of the ability to participate in a program that is a necessity of life.

Sometimes, 27dan, individual wishes must be subordinated to the greater good of the ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 2, 13 2:01 AM
Listen Hat Head, Stop trying to quilt your way though this discussion with your sanctimonious B.S.... Everyone here has a heart to a point but you cant trade goodies for votes... everyone as to have some skin in the game. Your side is punishing success to a point where it it is being perceived as spiteful and envious.

This POTUS is reactionary, aloof, and as grown despondent in his transparency promise. His words smack of superiority and dare I say are thinly disguised reparations and pay ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 2, 13 3:34 PM
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This thread has, typically, gone off the rails.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 2, 13 6:50 PM
to joe hampton:

Most True Believers nominally subscribe to Judeo-Christian ethics and are unlikely to admit that they would rather that their fellow citizens suffer than that their own money be used to alleviate it. However, one can make a reasoned judgment of their true sentiments, despite their protestations to the contrary, by observing their frenetic efforts to deprive the disadvantaged of healthcare (and food.) There are probably a number who simply assume that all human beings are ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 2, 13 10:51 PM
sorry I was typing on a phone before but I am sure you got the idea
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 3, 13 1:01 AM
Most famous for his off-shore tax shelters, Mitt Romney.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 3, 13 12:18 PM
Sorry for the long post but everyone better read this one,

Exclusive: HealthCare.gov Users Warn of Security Risk, Breach of Privacy
Kelsey Harris and Rob Bluey
November 2, 2013 at 7:41 pm

Justin Hadley logged on to HealthCare.gov to evaluate his insurance options after his health plan was canceled. What he discovered was an apparent security flaw that disclosed eligibility letters addressed to individuals from another state.

“I was in complete shock,” ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 3, 13 8:46 AM
So, the strategy is to sabotage the project and then scream to the heavens how it's so horrible and doesn't work.

The dumbing down of 'Murica continues...


"But the bitter fight over passage was only the beginning of the war to stop 'Obamacare'. Most Republican governors declined to create their own state insurance exchanges — an option inserted in the bill in the Senate to appeal to the classic conservative preference for local control — forcing the federal government ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 3, 13 9:05 AM

The Obamacare sabotage campaign
By: Todd S. Purdum
November 1, 2013 05:04 AM EST


To the undisputed reasons for Obamacare’s rocky rollout — a balky website, muddied White House messaging and sudden sticker shock for individuals forced to buy more expensive health insurance — add a less acknowledged cause: calculated sabotage by Republicans at every step.

That may sound like a left-wing conspiracy theory — and the Obama administration ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 3, 13 9:14 AM
My catastrophic policy and a fully funded HSA were just fine and provided complete coverage, How does this not qualify under der Fuhrers Affordable Care Act? A friend of mine, single male 53 years old, had his policy cancelled because it doesn't offer maternity care and pediatric care! How is this rational?
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 3, 13 11:39 AM
Any chance of toning down the rhetoric a bit? [ "der Fuhrers" ]

Thank you.
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 3, 13 11:45 AM
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to bigfresh:

I cannot believe that you still don't understand. To reiterate, AFFORDABLE care depends on everyone in the United States being insured in a single pool of insureds whose policies contain uniform limitations and exclusions so that the insurance risk is spread over the entire population and premiums are affordable to all. The inadequacies of your catastrophic policy remove you from that pool. Your single 53 year old male friend similarly must insure himself for health problems ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 3, 13 1:22 PM
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Gov. Christie recently about compromise vs. the cost of rigid refusal on principles:

Let me tell you, if you're looking for the candidate that you agree with 100% of the time, then I want you to do something for me tonight: Go home and look in the mirror, because that's the only person you agree with 100% of the time. But sometimes we make political candidates feel like that's what you want. Like you want us to agree with you 100% of the time or you won't vote for us. You know what happens ...more
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 4, 13 5:12 AM
hhs

"To reiterate, AFFORDABLE care depends on everyone in the United States being insured in a single pool"

Wow just read that and think about it. What is going on here.
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 4, 13 10:21 AM
HH, Would make a wonderful leader for the Arma dei Carabinieri maybe in I don't know ? Dovia di Predappio....

Or the commander of a Borg Cube.

" Obamacare's intent is to secure national wellbeing rather than enable individual preferences. Simply put, if what's good for you is bad for three hundred million other Americans, you lose.

What 10th amendment whats that.

By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 4, 13 10:33 AM
"I'm your huckleberry."
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 3, 13 10:06 PM
Which Clinton? ;)
By bird (817), Southampton on Nov 4, 13 6:34 PM
GALLUP: OBAMA CRASHES TO 40%...

By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 4, 13 12:31 AM
There are MILLIONS of Americans who will lose their current insurance policies due to Obamacare mandated coverage. Hard working , PRODUCTIVE members of society forced out of coverage that they chose. Our POTUS and His minions in the Demokrat Party are denying us one of our most basic rights as citizens of this still great nation, FREEDOM. Women are free to kill their unborn babies in the name of "choice" but we are unable to choose the health insurance that we want. The whole premise of Obamacare ...more
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 4, 13 6:47 AM
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WSJ: You Also Can't Keep Your Doctor...
Cancer patient: I am one of the Obamacare losers...
Governor invokes 'safety valve'...
Backlash grows...
Jackie Mason: Obama lying 'maniac'...
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 4, 13 9:33 AM
All right. So, let's start with that pledge from the president when he was trying to sell ObamaCare. Here it is.
"Read My Lips Period"

OBAMA: We will keep this promise to the American people: if you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan, ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 4, 13 10:17 AM
YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED
Nov 4, 13 10:43 AM appended by joe hampton
A Yale professor produced a lengthy catalog of centrally planned disasters. Everything from compulsory villagization in Tanzania, to the collectivization of agriculture in the Soviet Union, to the "Authoritarian High Modernism" that led to immense, unlivable housing projects and the destruction of urban life in cities around the world. His list stands as a warning to hubristic technocrats. " You may think you understand how things work, and how people will respond to your carefully (or, often, not-so-carefully) laid plans, but you are likely to be wrong, and the result is likely to be somewhere between tragedy and farce. The world is more complicated than planners are capable of grasping -- and so, for that matter, are the people who inhabit it"
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 4, 13 10:43 AM
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Obamacare is a 2,700-page reminder of Reagan’s famous dictum that the nine most terrifying words in the English language are “I’m from the government, and I’m here to help.”
It’s worth pondering why the left from obama on down to phill seems unwilling to admit any problem with the law, either in its policy or in its implementation. When Nancy Pelosi famously said congress had to pass the bill so that we could find out what’s in it, she wasn’t just ...more
Nov 4, 13 6:46 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
I have noticed over the past week a slow transition away from the term Obamacare to the previously less popular " Affordable Care Act " concerned over Legacy much.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 4, 13 6:46 PM
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New documents, turned over to the House Oversight Committee, paint a picture of an Administration intentionally misleading health insurance consumers as a diversionary tactic designed to keep citizens from getting disgusted.

"Navigators are seeing people very frustrated and walking away, so they are turning to paper applications to protect their reputations, even though paper applications will not have any quicker result ,

October meeting notes make it clear that the paper application ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 5, 13 8:50 AM
GALLUP: OBAMA FALLS TO 30S...

LOWER THAN W...
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 5, 13 8:27 PM
ELECTION NIGHT 2013...
VA Precincts Reporting: 61%...

CUCCINELLI 48.03%
MCAULIFFE 44.66%

Come on Cuccinelli We remember the spin of the master excuse maker McAULIFFE during the Clinton years. It was Perjury and Impeachable but McAULIFFE like CARNEY today , just kept spinning.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 5, 13 8:43 PM
to They call me:

What a perfect example of Tea Party credulity and distortion. Any datum, however spurious and insubstantial, that appears to be unfavorable to the Democrats, they brandish like a banner.

In the real world:

McAuliffe (the Rational candidate) - 47.6%
Cuccinelli (the Tea Party candidate) - 45.8%
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 5, 13 11:00 PM
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Cuccinelli Campaign - National GOP Abandoned Them: 'We Were on Our Own'
A campaign strategist for Republican Virginia gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli said that the national GOP abandoned the campaign in its final days.
At the end of the race, Cuccinelli was closing in on Democrat Terry McAuliffe, who eked out a two-point victory on Tuesday despite exit polls that showed McAuliffe was up by seven points.

According to the Washington Post, Chris La Civita said that financial ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 6, 13 12:22 AM
shudda, cudda, wudda
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Nov 6, 13 12:40 AM
A new day is dawning for democracy . . .

The Democratic surge on The East End is just the first ripple of the wave to hit in November 2014.
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 6, 13 4:38 AM
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UMMM not quite Phil ,what we are seeing is the rise of the freestuffers and their handlers , the Demokrat Party. The non productive members of society are voting en masse , we'll be broke shortly if this keeps up. That'll make you happy, no one rises , all are brought down to the same level.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 6, 13 6:13 AM
BF, I agree with you that we will be broke shortly if we don't change our spending ways but this has to be viewed as backlash toward the tea party. Extremism is never the answer, however intentioned, and the people are speaking.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 6, 13 6:56 AM
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Phil, what are you talking about? Are you talking to me or to BF because I don't see a contradiction in either post. Serious question.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 6, 13 9:19 AM
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Ok, thanks.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 6, 13 4:30 PM
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Dnice, Can I ask you backlash for what? All the tea party wants is fiscal responsibility. What is it in that message that people reject?
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 6, 13 7:57 PM
Its not the Tea party they hate... Its the threat of losing the Re Distributer in Chief.... They throw out the race card or cry war on women but it boils down to ( don't take away my entitlements away) The tea party is shedding light on the debt and how we are spending our war to doom. This issue of Obamacare has now metastasized. It isn't about the roll out, it isn't about getting the web site right. They have now compounded what was a disaster of something that you are stripping away the protection ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 6, 13 8:12 PM
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27dan, I am as conservative as they come. I'm surprised you have to ask why the tea party is turning people off. Their message gets muddled in their delivery.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 6, 13 8:50 PM
Like I said, two piles of dog crap.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 7, 13 8:36 PM
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
The Outstanding Public Debt as of 06 Nov 2013 at 12:30:25 PM GMT is:



$ 1 7 , 1 2 0 , 9 2 1 , 5 8 9 , 7 2 6 . 3 6

By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 6, 13 7:32 AM
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Phil must have watched in dismay as McAuliffe barely clung to victory... Even after spending three times more $ and with the backing of the Clintons...
McAulliffe was breezing to victory. But his once huge lead vanished as voter outrage over ObamaCare nearly wrecked the race. A double-digit lead turned into a squeaker. Exit polls showed intense opposition to ObamaCare that helped Cuccinelli, who was written off by the national GOP as they focused on helping Windbag Rino Chris Cristie
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 6, 13 6:13 PM
A tea party candidate couldn't win in red state Virginia. Good bye tea party, just like southern democrats after the civil war( you know, former slave owners and KKK) Gone with the wind! Trying to live in an ugly past.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 7, 13 7:54 PM
I guess Virginia is a blue state then ,according to you. Tea party is dead, no republican trying to get elected is going to associate with being a tea bagger. Gone with the wind, stew in your own hatred. America is moving on.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 10, 13 8:39 PM
Look how much it has grown in just a few hours its really accelerating now !

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 07 Nov 2013 at 01:15:34 AM GMT is:
$ 1 7 , 1 2 4 , 7 5 1 , 1 8 6 , 8 6 1 . 7 3

The estimated population of the United States is 316,995,194
so each citizen's share of this debt is $54,022.12.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$2.63 billion per day since September 30, 2012!

Concerned? you should be!

Tell ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 6, 13 8:19 PM
thats scary, omg look at all the money
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 7, 13 12:13 AM
Nothing extremist about murder in utero Phil,quite the opposite really. The freestuffers came out and voted for a governor who will continue the handouts you know how that works!
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 7, 13 6:59 AM
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By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 7, 13 9:47 AM
Y'know, you should really see the footage of Jackie Speier's diatribe from the Senate floor.

It left the room speechless, and applauding...
Nov 7, 13 3:32 PM appended by Mr. Z
Pardon, the "House" floor.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 7, 13 3:32 PM
Naturally, Phil is ignoring any pertinent facts inconvenient to his agenda.

Here are five of them:

1. The Texas Bill will Make Abortion Safer: After the horrors discovered at the clinic of abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell (which the media all-but ignored), many of which were only possible due to the local government's politically motivated lack of oversight towards abortion clinics, Texas decided to act to make abortion safer. One of the primary objectives of the bill Davis filibustered ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 8, 13 9:26 AM
to Captn America:

Quote: "If you polled Tea Party principles agains liberal principles, the Tea Party would win hands down.

'Americans favor Tea Party principles over progressive by 2:1'"
------------------------------------------------------------------

You're a hoot, Captn. The bonafides of your quote are as follows: The poll was taken by the ephemeral NSON(?) of Salt Lake City which identified Tea Party principles as, "limited government, free markets and personal ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 7, 13 10:09 PM
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from a traditional American point of view your the extremist!

Here I will give you an example of your radical hypocrisy

How do you feel about the Secretary of State John Kerry sidestepping reporter’s question yesterday about whether Saudi women should be allowed to drive, casting the debate as one “best left to Saudi Arabia.”

the real War on Women is in the Muslim world this administration has favored and might I add assisted in helping them control ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 8, 13 8:59 AM
Dan Dan Dan Shhhhhh. Your not supposed to bring stuff like that up.

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel's worst fears will be realized if a proposed deal by world powers goes ahead with Tehran, sharply curtailing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu options in his campaign against Iran's contested nuclear program.

The possible accord might not only tie Israel's hand in any future military action against Iran, but it could also have an unexpected knock-on effect and stymie U.S.-brokered negotiations ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 8, 13 9:07 AM
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to Captn America:

A truly relevant poll would have asked the public's preference between the defining ethe of the two ideologies, "Meanness" (the Tea Party) and "Compassion" (the Progressives.) Maybe we can ask NSON to run that one (if its telephone hasn't been disconnected.)

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to Undocumented Democrat:

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu wants to attack Iran. More precisely, he wants US to attack Iran since we did such a splendid ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 8, 13 11:03 AM
They compassion you refer to is great in the form of charity and not so great when you are taking more and more from hard working people to subsidize lazy individuals who are gaming the system. I do realize some people need the help but that help should come from charities and locale organizations not the federal government who dips in to the pot with sweet deals for themselves and unions far more than they dole out to needy folks.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 8, 13 2:14 PM
Phil, what can you possibly know about running a business or work in general for that matter? If a business owner "takes advantage" of his workers, he will soon have no workers. How in the world is a business owner a "taker' if he takes some time off in the winter? Methinks Phil is just consumed with class envy like the rest of the leftists. If you want to improve your financial position work harder or get a second job, do something instead of griping about those who are more successful.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 8, 13 5:00 PM
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to They call me & Captn America:

What sophomoric twaddle. You both want to end concrete programs to provide health care and food to the poor in exchange for an amorphous alternative to be determined at a later date. Just more mealy-mouthed blather to prettify your fundamental meanness. Since you have no intention of actually replacing them with anything, you have never articulated a program.

To completely understand a Tea Partier's motivation, one need but append the sentence, ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 8, 13 6:31 PM
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By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 9, 13 8:25 AM
The Bye Bye Obama Countdown Clock
Get one for yourself or give as a gift to your friends
Make a great CRISTMAS gift
Nov 9, 13 8:52 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
T- 999 DAYS 23:59:15
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 9, 13 8:52 AM
to Captn America:

The House Republicans passed a bill to cut 4 million poor from the SNAP rolls in 2014 and to cut an additional 3 million each succeeding year until 2023. Particularly cynical was a provision in the bill that requires adult recipients to be employed or enrolled in a job training program but does not require that such a program actually be available. So a poor, hungry person could search all day, every day for work and still lose his benefits. Tea Partiers have made the ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 9, 13 11:26 AM
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anybody not on drugs, handicapped or a mental stability problem could get a job by tomorrow the trouble is many see the jobs available as too hard or beneath them.


TO FREAKING BAD! GET OUT OF MY POCKET!
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 9, 13 2:30 PM
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By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 10, 13 11:55 AM
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 09 Nov 2013 at 06:43:08 PM GMT is:
$ 1 7 , 1 5 4 , 1 6 0 , 9 1 4 , 2 5 2 . 8 3

The estimated population of the United States is 317,012,865
so each citizen's share of this debt is $54,111.88.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 9, 13 1:43 PM
to They call me:

I see that you have adopted a variation of the Tea Party Declaration of
Fundamental Principle that I suggested as your sign-off on you ultimate post. Good man!

Your opinions that only "charities and locale organizations" (that is to say, NOT you) should take care of the poor and that anyone who doesn't work is lazy or diffident or crazy or a drug addict or disabled are moot since the final sentence of your post neatly expresses the sole motivation of ALL ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 9, 13 11:02 PM
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to Captn America:

Do you consider facts to be of no importance in your reconstructions of reality?

Your colleagues are preventing 8 million of their working countrymen from obtaining health care without offering any alternative.

You are trying to kick 31 million Americans off SNAP. The "Republican alternative" is character-building hunger. This deplorable example of Republican meanness passed without receiving a single Democratic vote. Is it “demonizing” ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 10, 13 11:40 AM
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The stamps are being used as just another form of redistribution of wealth as well as Obamacare. No one is against helping the truly needy handicapped or insane. The rest should be forced to either get off the couch or live off a soup line.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 10, 13 12:00 PM
not the translation i took away from they call me post i saw the same message you and hhs ignored when i posted it last month, that the poor do not need to have air conditioning when fans get the job done.

your not fooling anyone
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 10, 13 12:29 PM
Poor Barack Hussein Obama II , Ending his fifth year as the world’s most powerful man, he is running out of scapegoats and fairy tales. Blaming George W. Bush has lost its punch, and the ObamaCare debacle is shredding the myths he is competent and honest.
Still, before he rides off into that sunset of self-pity and low poll ratings, he ought to invite his remaining friends over for a heart-to-heart. That way he can tell The New York Times that in the end its fanatical support does him ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 10, 13 12:07 PM
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Stay outa da Bushes
By local 84 (343), riverhead on Nov 10, 13 12:23 PM
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By local 84 (343), riverhead on Nov 10, 13 9:56 PM
Cap you would think a 3rd grader could grasp the concept of the following exchange

Phil Said - let's hear more from you about your hypocritical preaching about personal responsibility.
You preach about it, but when people are required to abide by it you scream about socialism.

Captain Said - Obamacare is not personal responsibility. It is collectivism pure and simple by requiring everyone to purchase a policy whether they they need it or not. The "individual" element of responsibility ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 10, 13 12:14 PM
i see what captain was saying and i have a third grader and i am sure she would see it as well

your not fooling anyone
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 10, 13 12:32 PM
I absolutely believe in personal responsibility, as do most conservatives. Describe for me how it is a just a tool rather than a belief system, provide examples. It is easy to throw accusations around. Prove your point if you can.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 10, 13 4:23 PM
He can not prove that point

Americans had to lose their health care plans in order to for Obamacare to work. There was never any intention for anybody to keep their current plan. The only way Obamacare could work, as designed by Obama and the Democrats, is precisely because people would lose their plan. It had to happen that way. The only way Obamacare could work, the only way Obama could reform the health care system the way he wants to reform it is precisely if everybody lost their plan.

There ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 10, 13 7:41 PM
to Captn America:

Your post reveals the same irrational, mean bias as that of your colleague, They call me, but adds a lagniappe of partisan misdirection. First you equate the moral gravitas of the senatorial SNAP bill with the House Republican bill that is 10 times more reductive. Then you dismiss the removal of 31 million hungry Americans from the program as de minimus. Finally you conflate the planned end of a temporary STIMULUS program with the SNAP program itself and hale its termination ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 11, 13 1:11 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 11, 13 4:29 PM
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Nov 11 (Reuters) - Barack Obama's healthcare reform has only reached almost 3 percent of its enrollment target for 2014 in 12 U.S. states where new online health insurance marketplaces are mostly working smoothly, a report released on Monday said.

ROTFLOL

By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 11, 13 8:05 PM
Way off topic but I told you so

County wide accident rates rise during era of red light cameras

some Citys to void camera tickets

Long Island experienced a 5 percent increase in traffic accidents from 2010 to 2012 the test span during which they rolled out and ramped up the network of red light cameras, according to state police statistics.
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 11, 13 9:40 PM
to Captn America:

You have no shame. You are still portraying the end of the Stimulus as a cut in the SNAP program by the Democrats. The truth (as you and everyone else in America knows) is that the Democrats employed Stimulus funds, over massed Republican opposition, to increase the nutritional aid to the poorest of our citizens in a program always intended to be temporary.

Your chutzpah is breathtaking (and quite amusing) but I doubt that you were aiming at humor.

While ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 11, 13 9:51 PM
By your logic our economy would benefit from a rise in the unemployment rate.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 12, 13 7:08 AM
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It's no wonder Eisenhower Interstate bridges fall into rivers.

There's plenty of infrastructure repair work and upgrading to be done in this country, but it won't be as long as corporations dictate the laws and behavior of those who vote on them. Wealth pollutes our governing process, and "We, the People" are NOT in charge.

Gardening 101: weeds must be pulled out by the roots.
Nov 12, 13 4:21 PM appended by Mr. Z
Every economic panic, or catastrophe has had two very common threads: 1. Rampant speculation 2. Unsustainable growth which occurred at a torrid pace. These are the consequences, and NO full recovery took less than a decade. For a full recovery to occur in just over five years would be historically unprecedented. Have a nice day.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 12, 13 4:21 PM
No.

K Street, their minions, and the masters of corporate America are in charge, you poor obtuse soul. It's funny how things really haven't changed that much in over a hundred years:


Wall Street Owns The Country

A Speech by Mary Elizabeth Lease (circa 1890)

This is a nation of inconsistencies. The Puritans fleeing from oppression became oppressors. We fought England for our liberty and put chains on four million blacks. We wiped out slavery and our tariff ...more
Nov 12, 13 4:45 PM appended by Mr. Z
Research: Panic of 1873
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 12, 13 4:45 PM
Without a doubt, there conclusion that the economy benefits from unemployment dollars the way it's stated in your c&p, is foolhardy. The best way to prime the economic pump is to let business do what it does best and get the government the hell out of the equation. , but that doesn't fit the narrative of the Demokratz who are of the belief that all good things come from the almighty government. It's better to havefolks working instead of being on the dole.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 12, 13 12:17 PM
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2012 Federal Corporate Welfare: 99.8 billion dollars. No cuts. Where are the jobs?

2012 Federal Social Welfare: 59 billion. Benefits cut.


And, don't even try to pull the CRS report out of your ***.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 12, 13 4:34 PM
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”

~ Mark Twain
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 12, 13 4:13 PM
Bored with this crap for a while.

Thought I'd see if I could make a few minds implode...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 12, 13 4:35 PM

Bill Clinton to Obama: Do the right thing, honor health insurance promise
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 12, 13 6:10 PM
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Good to see ya Z.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 12, 13 7:06 PM
joe hampton loved your 11/10 post but didn't I read your message in the NYPOST on sun AM? Next time use quotes
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 12, 13 4:54 PM
Xtiego, I read something about the article Joe's talking about in newsday last week do a search
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 12, 13 5:56 PM
HOT OF THE WIRE>>>>

Obama hits lowest approval rating of presidency:
The Washington Times
November 12, 2013, 05:23PM

Obama hits lowest approval rating of presidency:
obama has reached his lowest approval rating in any Quinnipiac University national poll since being elected president, with 38 percent of registered voters now approving of his job performance and 54 percent disapproving.

The numbers released Tuesday compare to a 45 percent/49 percent approval/disapproval ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 12, 13 6:08 PM
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BHO is also in the thirties on every major issue, except terrorism:

Obama gets a positive 52 - 42 percent approval rating for handling terrorism, with negative grades for handling other issues"

38 - 53 percent on foreign policy;

35 - 53 percent on immigration;

32 - 62 percent on the federal budget;

36 - 60 percent on health care;

38 - 59 percent on the economy

By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 12, 13 6:41 PM
to Captn America:

Your doublespeak is stellar. Big Brother has nothing on you.

For instance: The Democrats are to blame for SNAP benefit reductions because they RAISED benefits. - and - Republican plans for $40B in cuts and Democratic agreement to $4.5 in cuts are identical.

However, you're going to have to create your own dictionary or normal people will soon not be able to understand you. So far, to judge from your posts, I infer that meanness and parsimony have ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 12, 13 6:59 PM
obamas website for purchasing health care has been an embarrassment
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 12, 13 7:47 PM
phil when you take over banks and car companies, if you take over financial institutions, the way that he has and now the health care system.

If you're going to use every crooked deal that you can come up with to get a bill like the health care bill passed, that is by definition, if you look it up in the dictionary socialism,

Then you must be a socialist.

By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 12, 13 8:21 PM
Bill Clinton to Obama: Do the right thing, honor health insurance promise

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Tuesday that she will co-sponsor a bill by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to require insurance companies to continue offering their existing health care plans — a way to make good on President Barack Obama’s PROMISE !

that consumers can keep their current coverage if they like it.

“This bill provides a simple fix to a complex problem,” Feinstein ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 12, 13 9:30 PM
Is that the same Dianne Feinstein whose husband Richard Blum got that multi-million dollar, unprecedented sole supplier crony deal on salable USPS properties via CBRE?

Yeah, she's credible...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 12, 13 10:49 PM
Feinstein ...more said in a statement Tuesday, calling Landrieu’s proposal a “commonsense fix” and urged Congress to pass it “quickly.”



PASS IT QUICKLY HARRY!
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 12, 13 9:32 PM
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So why did she vote "no" when the GOP proposed to do this very thing in 2010?

LOL Its armature hour. again!

Bill Clinton to obama: Do the right thing, honor health insurance promise ! Love it !

PASS IT QUICKLY HARRY! Love It !
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 12, 13 9:38 PM
What we had was better !

What we could have in competition across state lines and tort reform as well as by partisan legislation on things such as pre existing conditions could be a better than what we had....

What we have is " You have to pass to bill to see whats in it" .... Well we did and now we see the progressive nightmare unfolding.
Nov 12, 13 10:26 PM appended by joe hampton
What we also have is what Chief said ,obama hitting the lowest approval rating of his presidency: obama has reached his lowest approval rating in any Quinnipiac University national poll since being elected president, with 38 percent of registered voters now approving of his job performance and 54 percent disapproving.
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 12, 13 10:26 PM
For your consideration:

Learning How to Die in the Anthropocene

By ROY SCRANTON
November 10, 2013

I.

Driving into Iraq just after the 2003 invasion felt like driving into the future. We convoyed all day, all night, past Army checkpoints and burned-out tanks, till in the blue dawn Baghdad rose from the desert like a vision of hell: Flames licked the bruised sky from the tops of refinery towers, cyclopean monuments bulged and leaned against the horizon, broken ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 12, 13 11:21 PM
obamas website for purchasing health care has been an real embarrassment



By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 13, 13 12:13 AM
big big lie has destroyed his credibility...
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 13, 13 9:03 AM
I just took your advice Captn,

I was surprized there where over 160,000 responses to that qestion

here are the top 10

1. Americans want higher taxes: During the debate over raising the debt ceiling, President Obama said that 80% of Americans support including higher taxes as part of the deal. But a Rasmussen poll taken the same week showed that only 34% believe a tax hike should be included in a debt-ceiling agreement.

2. Mother denied health insurance: During ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 13, 13 9:41 AM
Why are you still arguing; Obamacare is a complete disaster. They have only managed to enroll a fraction of the millions needed to make this joke of a law work. The key demographic, young people, are staying away from the hot mess and the high costs of the "affordable care act". The website is so bad industry experts say the whole thing needs to be scrapped. They estimate that over 10 million people will now lose their insurance thanks to Obamacare and that number is now expected to rise. The ...more
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Nov 13, 13 9:56 AM
Why are you still arguing; Obamacare is a complete disaster. They have only managed to enroll a fraction of the millions needed to make this joke of a law work. The key demographic, young people, are staying away from the hot mess and the high costs of the "affordable care act". The website is so bad industry experts say the whole thing needs to be scrapped. They estimate that over 10 million people will now lose their insurance thanks to Obamacare and that number is now expected to rise. The ...more
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Nov 13, 13 9:56 AM
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The Washington Post: Site Won't Be Fixed By Month's End...
'No hope left'...

To date a meger 50,000 people have been signed up, in a laugable

coinsadance there are 50,000 call center "Specialists"

Could it be they are the same 50,000? LOL

The online magazine Ozy published a video interview with former president Bill Clinton saying that Obama must “honor the commitment” he made to Americans that they could keep their insurance — even ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 13, 13 9:56 AM
Hey everyone remember

" WE HAD TO PASS THE BILL TO SEE WHAT WAS IN IT! "


LIES!
Nov 13, 13 10:09 AM appended by They call me
Poll: Obama approval ratings drop, Americans say he's not trustworthy, Biggest swing among women lowest-ever marks on honesty CNN 10:33 am November 13, 2013
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 13, 13 10:09 AM
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A whopping 64% of those surveyed when asked do you believe this administration lied to help get reelected in the latest Quinnipiac University Poll said YES!

Today: Calif. Insurance Commissioner: More Than 1 MILLION Californians In the process of having Insurance Canceled Due To Obamacare

This Emperor has no clothes...
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 13, 13 11:06 AM
America is being run by a minority of hateful, deceptive, lying, dividers of humanity...WE will not fall for the treachery spewed by the mouths of the Progressive Left that is trying to collapse America and our Republic, so they can take total control and build it up again...Saul Alinsky's rules for Radicals!

I am throughly enjoying the spectacle of Chris Matthews and Ed Schultz and all there stacked deck guests heads exploding the last few evenings It has my blood pressure way down.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 13, 13 11:41 AM
to They call me:

Quote: "America is being run by a minority of hateful, deceptive, lying, dividers of humanity...WE ..."

No, They call me, you lost that opportunity in the last election and it will never come again. (Also, while I am averse to calling attention to others' solecisms , you should have used the objective case of the personal pronoun.)
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 13, 13 12:23 PM
right on
By local 84 (343), riverhead on Nov 13, 13 5:53 PM
to Captn America:

Dear me, Captn, you DID say it. Your assertion, cleansed of deceptive misdirection, is that the Democrats are responsible for the decrease in SNAP benefits in November (when the Stimulus program expired) because the Democrats RAISED them earlier.

There may be "plenty of meanness to go around" as you say but if your suggestion is apt that a comparison of the Democratic and extremist Republican SNAP reduction proposals is an appropriate measure of relative meanness, ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 13, 13 12:54 PM
To Captain & TCM, Look his big head is gonna explode, lol

Maybe you missed those poll Numbers,

O hits lowest approval rating of presidency:
obama has reached his lowest approval rating in any Quinnipiac University national poll since being elected president, with 38 percent of registered voters now approving of his job performance and 54 percent disapproving

Its over the people see the scam now for what it is.
Nov 13, 13 2:46 PM appended by 27dan
you said "No, They call me, you lost that opportunity in the last election and it will never come again." WE will make you eat those words real soon, Your progressive dream is dying on the branch.
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 13, 13 2:46 PM

OBAMACARE ENROLLMENT DISASTER FEWER THAN 27K FED WEBSITE

Hey, If the website doesnt work talk to a navigator like james okeefe did and get free advice on tax evasion
Nov 13, 13 5:04 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
100K Enrollees, 5 Million Cancellations...
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 13, 13 5:04 PM

'Universal Healthcare': 4.7 Million Lose Coverage in First Month

To all the progressive hypocrites on this site that I see are hiding under a rock today

YOU DID BUILD THAT !

If anyone needs me for the rest of this wonderful evening... I'll be in my recliner with freshly popped Orville Redenbocker watching the comedy that is MSNBC... except of coarse for 9 to 10... When the beautiful Megan Kelly tells it like it is on FOX!
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 13, 13 5:24 PM
Still saving $900 dollars a month with a better policy. Many people taking time, visiting web-site many times due to the many policies offered. Wait for December 15th. Still waiting for the party of do-nothing to actually offer anything. Only chance you have is Chris Christie, who is not your brethren. So consider the tea bag party officially dead. You remember Chris Christie, walking hand in hand with Barack Obama. Obama's approval rating is down, so what he's already been elected TWICE! Life is ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 13, 13 5:47 PM
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you know it, Dats correct Twice!
By local 84 (343), riverhead on Nov 13, 13 5:54 PM
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joe hampton your post on 11/10 was ver betum from Michael Goodwin's NYPOST article in Sunday's NYPOST.Please give credit where credit is due.
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 13, 13 8:34 PM
joe hampton your post on 11/10 was ver betum from Michael Goodwin's NYPOST article in Sunday's NYPOST.Please give credit where credit is due.
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 13, 13 8:34 PM
to Captn America:

"Childish" is certainly an appropriate word to describe extremist Republicans (although "unevolved" and "simple" would be as apt), indicating, as it does, their unrefined obsession with themselves and their “stuff”. (You have evidently conflated their conduct with my description of it.) Other folks, even if they might share the self-absorption of Republicans, are prevented by their sense of empathy from imitating their predatory behavior. This sense is absent ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 14, 13 12:39 PM
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The republicans don't need a "healthcare" plan.

this country DOES NOT have a "healthcare" problem

it has an Insurance problem - the two are not related in their solutions
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 14, 13 2:03 PM
The republicans don't need a "healthcare" plan.

this country DOES NOT have a "healthcare" problem

it has an Insurance problem - the two are not related in their solutions
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 14, 13 2:07 PM
No need to remember, I'm sure you have a screen shot of it. You missed my point. I believe the problem lies with the insurance companies and the Pols aren't going to touch them.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 14, 13 6:13 PM
So what's the republican plan for the insurance problem dnice ?
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 14, 13 3:00 PM
I'm not sure what their exact plan is, they are probably a little busy dealing with the abomination that is the affordable healthcare act. But I am sure there is no easy answer.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 14, 13 3:41 PM
"Adult children". Is that an oxymoron?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 14, 13 6:05 PM
It is really funny that he is pushing the issue off for another year so as to get past midterms. The only thing they care about now is the vulnerable Dems. A politician's only concern is reelection, everything else is secondary.

A majority of Americans now distrust the President. Good job Barry.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 14, 13 6:35 PM
PANIC!
White House tries to salvage Obamacare, Dems in distress...
President thwarts Congress again...
HOWARD DEAN: What legal authority?
Insurers: 'Fix' could raise costs...
State commissioner rejects...
HHS Admits Obamacare Plans Cost More 'In Many Cases'...
Jimmy Carter's grandson calls it 'a mess'...
SICK: Another woman with cancer dumped from insurance...
PELOSI: House Dems will offer own plan to fix...
Vulnerable politicians: RUN...
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 14, 13 6:13 PM
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BHO is suspending certain Obamacare requirements... Problem is he does not have the legal authority to do this.

To remove all doubt: The Constitution absolutely forbids any president from doing exactly what obama did Today.

obama would allow companies to keep offering previously-offered insurance plans that Americans would like to keep. Dors this meansall plans, or only some of them, and how the White House will make such determinations.

By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 14, 13 6:41 PM
He says he has “enforcement discretion” to make this change to Obamacare unilaterally, without consulting Congress.

This is a frightening claim of a sweeping power that is completely inconsistent with the Constitution. A president has “prosecutorial discretion” to prioritize which lawbreakers to prosecute in federal court, but there is no “enforcement discretion” to determine which laws on the books he will enforce.

Article II, Section 3 of ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 14, 13 6:42 PM
Joe "There you go again" you keep bring up that little technicality ,

"The Constitution"

These people have never let that rag the detest stop them before.

Now he wants us to blame the insurance company's what a joke, This armature is just creating more chaos
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 14, 13 6:59 PM
1. I will have the most transparent administration.
2. I have shovel ready jobs.
3. The IRS is not targeting anyone.
4. If four Americans get killed, it is not optimal.
5. ObamaCare will be good for America.
6. You can keep your family doctor.
7. Premiums will be lowered by $2500
8. You can keep your current healthcare plan
9. Just shop around, for that healthcare I claimed you wouldn't lose.
9A. I did not say you could keep your health care. (Regardless that ...more
Nov 14, 13 7:58 PM appended by dnice
Quotes from you know who
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 14, 13 7:58 PM
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StinkTank.

Trust me, you'll love it!!
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 14, 13 10:55 PM
Ahhh, the air of superiority rears it's ugly head.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 8:21 AM
to Captn America:

Quote: "2700 pages in the Obamacare law, 11,580,500 words in the regulation - 10,535 pages...now we know what's in Obamacare and it's a disaster. "

Whereas the alternative Republican Plan is infinitely shorter (literally); there's nothing at all in it, yet it's been bankrupting people for decades.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 14, 13 11:37 PM
What is with the argument that "you're side has no plan so our garbage smells better?" Nonsense. No action was better than this action. This is a perfect example of "The Cobra Effect"
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 9:35 AM
Unfortunately, action was needed. I'm not sure what you do for insurance, mine cost $2000 a month and covers next to nothing. Under Obamacare I will pay $1100 a month with a much better policy and drug coverage(I had zero coverage with my old plan.) I paid $100,000 the last five years for 25 well visits that I paid a $30 co-pay. So you tell me If reform was needed. With change there are glitches, they will be fixed as compared to the party of do-nothings. The status quo was NOT WORKING!!!!
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 15, 13 2:44 PM
My insurance was just fine...40.00 copay for dr visit. NOW i will have a 1500.00 deductable, which I will never meet, and 50.00 copay. I go to the dr. once a year. By the way a need to get a new primary cause my primary of 20 years isnt in this crappy plan...Mr. Obama I WAS happy with my plan. Why am I being forced to change????
By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Nov 15, 13 3:07 PM
Mets Fan - I call BS. You were paying 2k and got no coverage? Who provided this policy for you? An employer or did you pick it? I pay a little over $2k for a family of four and have full coverage.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 4:55 PM
Your happy paying $24,000 a year? You have no problem with that? I had coverage,co-payed everything and no drug coverage. Do you know what 10% raise in premium on $24,000 is every year and your okay with that? That makes you a perfect republican, something is very wrong and you wish to do nothing about it. The party and people of do-nothings. Good luck living in the past as you continue enjoy being swindled.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 15, 13 6:50 PM
Mets fan, you didn't answer my questions. Typical dodge.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 7:07 PM
I picked it, what question didn't I answer. You didn't answer mine. Your okay with paying $24,000 a year with 10% increases every year?
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 15, 13 8:44 PM
Mets fan - you sound like you want something for nothing.

No, I don't like paying it. I don't like paying the other $11,000 per month for my employees either. What I like even less is the gov't stepping in and telling me they are going to fix it(lie), telling me i can keep my policy(lie), telling me I will pay less(lie)...see where I am going with this?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 9:49 PM
I don't want something for nothing.I paid$100,000 for twenty five well visits with a $30 co-pay. Here on earth where I am from, I think I'm getting ripped off. I can live with $1100 a month. I guess someone who works for someone for many years and gets laid off, If something is medically wrong with them , they can never get insurance.Your old insurance friendly policies are gone with the wind. As of cost of insurance have you even logged into the website? You should do some research of all the things ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 16, 13 8:45 AM
When you do the math it doesn't seem fair but what if you got sick, had surgery or extended hospital stays? That price would seem like a bargain compared to what your bills would be. I can find cheaper insurance but it covers less and is not taken by my Dr's. Yes, the cost is high but the alternative is having poor insurance. I am all for fixing the system, I just don't think the gov't is capable of doing it as their track record is abysmal. The "solution" is going to make everything more expensive. ...more
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 16, 13 9:30 AM
Action was needed now. The Republicans had years after Hillary's attempt at reforming healthcare. They chose not to do anything while the average american and business people had to deal with outrageous premiums hikes year after year. So when you say the status quo was alright is an outrageous statement. Doing nothing is not a course of action when so much was going wrong.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 16, 13 3:11 PM
Tell that to the millions that are having their coverage dropped.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 16, 13 4:59 PM
They will move on to another policy. You make it sound like they won't be able to get insurance. You didn't answer my question, have you even logged into the web-site yet? Actually I can't really help someone that was content with being ripped off on their insurance. I don't even know why I am wasting my time responding to you.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 17, 13 10:20 AM
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The problem with the "another policy" is that its 100.00 more a month with a very big deductable..and higher copays. I LIKE my insurance! Mets fan you act like its not a big deal. Its a very big deal! Im sorry you didnt like your insurance or it was too little for too much...why am I being forced to change ????
By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Nov 18, 13 2:56 PM
Mets fan, I don't remember asking for your help. That is the problem with liberals, they try to impose their will on you.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 20, 13 8:49 PM
Any of the resident leftists here care to address Der Fuhrer"s illegal circumventing of the US Constitution? Buhler---Buhler?
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 15, 13 9:07 AM
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He's taking on term limits and we will be voting him in again for a third term.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 15, 13 2:47 PM
Alec Baldwin, chased down and threatening a photographer outside his Manhattan apartment ... this morning in his stalker case ... and the whole thing was captured on video.
The video shows Baldwin -- who was with his wife and baby -- taking off in angry pursuit after the pap (not ours) ... yelling, cursing and calling him a "c**ksucking f*g."

But it ok he will just donate a little more money to the E H library
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 15, 13 9:22 AM
to Captn America:

It's really quite simple, Captn, the Republican "Plan" is the status quo antes in which the No. 1 cause of personal bankruptcy filings, year after year, is medical expense.

to dnice:

Actually, the argument is that our plan will cure the ills of social Darwinism (the Republican Plan); that Republican propaganda that duplicitously disparages the ACA will be exposed as ignorant ideological malice when it is fully implemented; and that Americans will eventually ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 15, 13 10:37 AM
HHS - you really believe that? Americans are already coming to the logical conclusion about the ACA, that it is a dog with fleas.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 11:09 AM
It's easy to throw stones when it is such an easy target.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 4:23 PM
Phil - lol. Must be tough that your hero is is being exposed for the poser that he is.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 6:30 PM
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So you agree that it needs to be replaced. Nice to see you are coming around.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 6:55 PM
Or you could just get a second job and stop trying to redistribute the wealth .

Just saying
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 15, 13 7:45 PM
Yeah Phil, or live a long life and get taxed to near death by a Democrat.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 17, 13 12:52 PM
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Has Tim Bishop come out of hiding to share his thoughts on Obamacare and the big lie he supported? No, still huddling with his defense lawyers trying to squirm out of his gross ethics violations or maybe shaking down some more constituents for his defense fund.
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Nov 15, 13 10:43 AM
Just to confirm: You cannot keep your plan in New York if you have received a cancellation notice regardless of what you hear. There are statutes currently in place which will need to be amended by the NY State legislation and signed by the governor in order for any current NY State regulations to change. The carriers are in a wait-and-see mode until they know if New York State is going to allow carriers to keep offering your current plan or not. Anything is possible, but it is unlikely that ...more
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Nov 15, 13 1:08 PM
You heard it from an expert folks.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 3:30 PM
Here's an idea, let everyone be responsible for their own insurance, without the damn government being involved! Those truly in need are being taken care of. let them keep their gubmint insurance if they can TRULY PROVE they are destitute. Personal responsibility people, personal responsibility!
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 15, 13 6:57 PM
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Single payer won't work in this country as our gov't has a history of over complicating things. The wait list would be too long. Who would control the pool, private or gov't?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 7:15 PM
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<------ huhhhh?
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 15, 13 7:56 PM
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to dnice:

As pointed out in Captn America's original post, the Affordable Care Act is an immensely complex law whose implementation would be expected to entail glitches and oversights that will be corrected in the roll-out. However, the right-wing has hysterically attacked the blunders made therein as if they rendered the program itself a failure. As everyone knows, such an evaluation can only be made after the ACA is fully functioning. If it is the disaster that the right-wing predicts, ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 15, 13 9:28 PM
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I don't think "implementing" and "changing" are the same thing.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 13 10:09 PM
Romney: "Real Problem" With Obamacare Isn't Website, But "Dishonesty"
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 15, 13 11:09 PM
MSNBC's Martin Bashir:

"Someone Should Sh*% In Sarah Palin's Mouth, P*#s In Her Eyes"

BYE BYE MARTIAN, Tell Kieth Oberdoof, We said hello
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 15, 13 11:04 PM
I cant believe HHS also condones this behavior how repulsive, The Jay sears thing was border line creepy but If you are going to stick up for even this, I ask what is the point of even conversing with you
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 16, 13 5:11 PM
TCM, You must realize Envy is a ugly emotion that drives certain people... They see themselves as champions of justice and never as, hypocritical, controlling and, opportunistic .There number one mission is to balance out the world It does not matter if everyone is equally miserable as long as they are equally as miserable.

Some think that they have a right to squeeze the fruit of your labor for there own benefit. They believe that If you and your family are more comfortable than they ...more
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 16, 13 5:35 PM
to They call me:

"Conversation" implies an exchange of ideas. We've NEVER conversed, They call me. Our routine interaction if for you to post a profoundly ignorant assertion (like this one) and for me to point out your error in response. Then you post another profoundly ignorant assertion and I point out your error, again, ad infinitum nauseamque.

In this case, you mistake my approbation of philathome's skewering of Undocumented Democrat's deceitful misquotation with the misquotation ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 16, 13 6:11 PM
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What do you do with your employees when you head south, JO, oops JH?
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 17, 13 10:27 AM
Thousands of doctors dropped from Medicare Advantage

Senators on both sides of the isle: Americans Don't Want a 'Fix,' They Want to Keep Plans

Students at historically black college complain Obamacare left them uninsured

Dem Rep: Amnesty key to making law work, Democrats Want Amnesty so Imigrants Can Enroll

FILM AT 11



By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 16, 13 5:50 PM
"The ACA is here to stay."

Who are you trying to convince?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 16, 13 9:52 PM
Nothing I am a Hispanic who came to this country you **%*%

Difference is I waited in line and did It properly. I am sure Captain or Joe would have no problem with me based on my country of origin.

So go sell your Kool Aid somewhere else
Nov 16, 13 11:00 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
For the record I live one family in one family house, I have two jobs, pay my taxes,and speak English in public full time after 3 years. I am proud to be American.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 16, 13 11:00 PM
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Socialism is working out real well for the French huh?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 16, 13 6:36 PM
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to Captn America:

The Forbes article is deliberately misleading.

The term "privately-sponsored health plans" includes all health plans that aren't either Medicare or Medicaid, including all company-sponsored plans. Company insureds may have their previous insurance "canceled" but they will automatically be re-enrolled in another with similar highly-subsidized premiums.

All that the Forbes article does is to inflate the percentage of the population that purchases individual ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 17, 13 12:31 AM
We are no longer trying because its over, the people see the truth now
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 17, 13 8:32 AM
Courtesy of the "Left Compass":

Okay, let me get this straight ONE more time.....
The Republicans say if your policy is cancelled because you have cancer, too bad so sad, GOOD for your insurance companies.
But if your policy is cancelled because it is outdated and will rip you off, only to be replaced, that's just the worst thing on the planet.

Do I have it down or am I missing something?
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 17, 13 10:09 PM
to Captn America:

Vide supra Nov. 7 in this very thread for your penultimate post of a datum derived from the meretricious "Daily Caller" and for my response noting its origin. You fact-check your own posts no better than you do your cited references.

Philathome's lengthy post (quoque supra) details the misleading nature of the Forbes article, to wit:

"[A]ccording to Washington and Lee University law professor Tim Jost — widely regarded as one of the nation’s ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 17, 13 10:19 PM
HHS, PHIL Z, PBR, METS FAN, PROG NOW,
Let me introduce you to a progressive paradise that might fit your hateful thinking better than America, it is called Venezuela.

The citizens have no rights, no guns, no free speech, and as a bonus for the parasites, you get free food, free housing, free health care, free transportation and free oil.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 17, 13 11:21 PM
TCM, I don't think they hate America. A lot of these people we probably know and would get along fine with but here we get behind our keyboards and offer our opinions without restraint. Our problems will never be solved here because there is no motivation or incentive to compromise.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 18, 13 6:58 AM
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Go ahead and explain for us,

" It sounds like the republican model in many ways."

This should be some of your best twisting
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 18, 13 8:03 AM
Welfare is only permitted if you're corporate America. Otherwise, you're a taker. How about that JP Morgan Q&A on Twitter?

Halls of Justice Painted Green
Money Talking
Power Wolves Beset Your Door
Hear Them Stalking
Soon You'll Please Their Appetite
They Devour
Hammer of Justice Crushes You
Overpower

The Ultimate in Vanity
Exploiting Their Supremacy
I Can't Believe the Things You Say
I Can't Believe
I Can't Believe the Price ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 18, 13 10:41 PM
I think I might actually see what the left's point is here. Whatever is good for the poor and parasitic is good for the nation, especially if it hurts business, the successful and especially the wealthy. Additionally the president, as long as He is a Marxist, is always correct and the constitution does not apply to Him, proclamations will be the law of the land, congress may be circumvented at will and any dissent will be deemed racism and squashed. All hail the Almighty Barak, Long live the King! ...more
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 18, 13 7:32 AM
Where did you get we hate america. Life has never been better, get outside, people enjoying themselves at all types of entertainment. The right complains that life is going to hell in a hand basket. We've never enjoyed a better standard of living despite taxes, insurance, and republicans. It's the right that has trouble with gays, women rights ,latinos, the lazy blacks that suck the food stamp program dry, shinnecock, indians, did I miss anybody. You fill me in tcm,bf if i missed someone you despise. ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 18, 13 3:45 PM
That might be my fault Mets fan. He didn't write that you hated America. He used the word hateful. Sorry if I put words in TCM's mouth.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 18, 13 4:14 PM
By the way, one million veterans are on food stamps. helping those who need help. isn't that the america based on christian values, the right always professes.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 18, 13 4:23 PM
Hmmmm, the Demokratz' knee jerk reaction against any increase in military spending might have something to do with the lack of funds for our veterans, don'tcha think?!
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 18, 13 4:37 PM
They don't have lack of funds, they're getting food stamps from our government. Once they are discharged they are under civilian control, not a lifetime umbrella from the military(unless they were disabled). So your argument is preposterous.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 19, 13 9:09 AM
Bashir Apologizes to Palin:

'My Words Were Wholly Unacceptable'

Alec Baldwin's new weekly MSNBC talk show was suspended for two episodes after the actor was videotaped using an anti-gay epithet against a photographer during a New York street encounter.
Nov 18, 13 5:41 PM appended by 27dan
Last Friday, on this broadcast, I made some comments which were deeply offensive and directed at Governor Sarah Palin. I wanted to take this opportunity to say sorry to Mrs. Palin and to also offer an unreserved apology to her friends and family, her supporters, our viewers, and anyone who may have heard what I said. My words were wholly unacceptable. They were neither accurate, nor fair. They were unworthy of anyone who would claim to have an interest in politics. And they have brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network, none of whom were responsible for the things that I said.
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 18, 13 5:41 PM

Now that the MSNBCs Bashir himself as said, I wanted to take this opportunity to say sorry to Mrs. Palin and to also offer an unreserved apology to her My words were wholly unacceptable. They were neither accurate, nor fair. They were unworthy of anyone who would claim to have an interest in politics. And they have brought shame upon my friends and colleagues at this network,

Will you apologize ? for the following

MSNBC's Martin Bashir:

"Someone Should Sh*% In ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 18, 13 6:58 PM
narcissists don't apologize
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 18, 13 7:09 PM
Phil, that is a third grade retort.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 18, 13 7:29 PM
Obama Approval Hits Record Low

Other than the incompetent rollout of his signature health program, polling also shows that ObamaCare itself is increasingly unpopular. The Real Clear Politics poll of polls that looks at ObamaCare's approval rating shows that only 39% approve, with 53.6% disapproving.

That is ObamaCare's highest disapproval rating
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 18, 13 7:18 PM
It can and will go lower.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 18, 13 7:30 PM
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All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn't put Obamacare back together again.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 18, 13 8:06 PM
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If there actually WERE a Republican health care plan, the extremists herein would have posted it long since rather than simply reiterating that there really is one. Perhaps not the whole thing, but at least those parts that document how it will ensure that poor, working Americans have access to adequate medical care.

For obvious reasons, it will never be forthcoming.

The article from the venal content provider, Mr. Roy, referred to supra, is nothing but a list of various Republican ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 18, 13 9:28 PM
If it here to stay why do you keep asking what the Republican plan is? No need for a plan if the ACA is the law. I don't know if ACA will be permanent but I do know it is in trouble and rightly so.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 13 5:03 PM
No, the more choices the better. I answer your questions, please answer mine.

"The republicans don't have an alternative plan.
All their interested in is denying people access to it."

This statement makes no sense. If there is no plan, how can anyone be denied access to it?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 13 7:12 PM
Its about Obamacare Stupid!
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 18, 13 10:45 PM
to Captn America:

Quote:

"What about the plan by the House GOP Solutions Group, 'Health Care Plan to Increase Affordability, Accessibility, Availability - Commonsense Health Care Reform to Lower Costs and Increase Access and Quality at a Price Our Country Can Afford'."

THIS is a "plan" to you? A three-and-a-half page outline of good intentions? I ask you again, if the Republicans actually have a health care plan, show us how it would assure access to decent medical ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 18, 13 11:36 PM
to Captn America:

OK, Captn, so what is the "framework" in the Republican Health Plan for assuring that poor, working Americans have access to decent medical care?
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 19, 13 1:09 AM
No one was ever denied medical care in this country and you know it. Even the Illegals

What you want is a communist system where big papa tucks you in at night and makes sure that your bicycle is the same one that as all the other neighborhood boys have. and while he is in there garage checking to make sure there bike is the same hell just go through all the draws to see what else he can find out and take some beer from the fridge for the road
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 19, 13 8:56 AM
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What We Are Witnessing Here Is Big Government in Practice

Confused President claims '100 million' have enrolled...
Issues SOS...
BIDEN: 'God willing'...
Woman Hailed As Success Story Now Can't Afford...
Obamacare Death Spiral...
Failure May Shave 30% From Drug Sales...
80 now new 60 for retirement...
POLL: Romney beats Obama...
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 19, 13 11:15 AM
Eighty is the new retirement age if health insurance kept at the same rate of increases. Wake up Romney lost or is your life so delusional. The right has made thousands of posts on this web-site to try to convince the public that their ideology is still valid. They have lost every single election either locally or nationally of any consequence to us living in the hamptons, since this web-site opened, so please keep posting! Your ideology of hatred is dead,america is moving on while you cling to ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 19, 13 6:08 PM
Hey Mets fan, the kool aid is good huh? If we are enjoying the highest standard of living why does the left constantly remind us of the impoverished in this nation? Why are so many on gov't aid? Why are so many living below the poverty line? The assertions in your post would lead even the most simple minded to deduce that you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. You compare the gov't to a successful business man? Oy!
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 13 7:07 PM
Phil do you even know why the stock market is soaring or do you just like pretending to sound 'smart'?
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Nov 20, 13 7:07 AM
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By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Nov 20, 13 10:20 AM
More food stamps because way more unemployed after our whole economic system almost collapsed, remember that. I compared Obama to a successful businessman. Successful businessman are always trying new innovative products or services, they are not always successful but they learn plenty from mistakes. Your were happy with the status quo with $2000 month plus more than 10% increases every year for healthcare, so you were thrilled with the party of do-nothing. A fool and her money are soon parted. ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 20, 13 6:12 PM
But, but, but we have a higher standard of living. Mets fan, your contradictions are telling of your understanding of our current situation. Obama hasn't tried anything innovative nor has he learned from any of his mistakes. "Blanket posts"? What ever are you blathering about? Somehow I doubt this will be the last time you respond to me.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 20, 13 6:54 PM
Mets fan, speaking of going back to school, you may want to do pay a little more attention to your syntax.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 20, 13 7:01 PM
Give an opinion back it up with facts. Innovative is his healthcare program, the right has produced nothing. Every opportunity to put something together since Hillary was shot down. In all those years since then , they've come up with nothing, NOTHING!!!!!
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 21, 13 4:13 PM
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What facts are you talking about Muts fan? I get it, you think the gov't should interfere and try to fix everything that ails us. That is liberal doctrine, not conservative.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 21, 13 4:27 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself Phil.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 21, 13 5:02 PM
LOL, thanks for appending it after I "agreed".
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 21, 13 5:44 PM
Plans in DC Cover Abortion, Not Hearing Aids...
CO man signs up -- his dog gets covered instead...
No one yet in Oregon...
Insurer stops advertising...
Payment system still not built...
Expert: Hackers can access private info on healthcare.gov...
Advises not to use...

Film at 11
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 19, 13 7:19 PM
National Organization for Women Silent on Bashir’s Misogyny

.
Feminist Majority Foundation Refuses to Comment on Bashir Controversy
Nov 19, 13 7:41 PM appended by 27dan
Progresives WAR on WOMEN
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 19, 13 7:41 PM
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["sigh"] The Right-Wing keeps astonishing. How often has one thought that their hysteria could not reach a hotter fever-pitch, only to see them break though that level in a subsequent irrational frenzy. In their latest outrage, they castigate the President for not reading the phrase "under God" in his recitation of the Gettysburg Address, notwithstanding the fact that Lincoln didn't include the phrase in the draft of his speech written before the event (and from which the President was reading.)

One ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 19, 13 10:32 PM
Lincoln was infamous for revising his speeches. Like a good DJ, you have to play for the people. Or in this case, speak to the people. Not every version of the speech, including the original, includes "under God". The "Bliss Copy" is the most often used, but was the LAST revision written. It is the one on the walls of the memorial.

As follows:


The Gettysburg Address
Gettysburg, Pennsylvania
November 19, 1863
On June 1, 1865, Senator Charles Sumner referred ...more
Nov 19, 13 11:20 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW marlin, go **** in a hat...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 19, 13 11:20 PM
Reference to "God" in a civic/civil environment.

Unconstitutional, for all time...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 19, 13 11:33 PM
Doesn't mean squat. Those words were added AFTER President Lincoln gave the address.
It could be gold leaf etched in marble and it still doesn't mean squat.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 13 11:45 PM
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As someone who thinks believing in an omnipotent deity is a clinical psychotic reaction to the inability to explain reality, I say you can keep your religion OUT of government just as the Treaty of Tripoli reinforced. I'll take the separation of church and state, corporation and state, and I could stand to see this country return to those roots. Power vested in the People to govern the Republic, not corporations and their prostitutes. This country was founded on egalitarian principles, and created ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 20, 13 12:23 AM
So you got nothin'?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Nov 20, 13 1:28 AM
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to Captn America:

C'mon, Captn, man-up! Politico never reported that poll and The (meretricious) Daily Caller is the only website with pretenses of being a "journal" rather than a blog, that mentioned it.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 20, 13 11:54 AM
Entertaining as always boys and girls, off to work working on one of my BILLIONAIRE clients' property today, gotta love that trickle down%%%! All hail King Barak, peace be upon Him.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 20, 13 6:08 AM
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By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 20, 13 7:38 AM
Yes sir, Its getting cold out now B F... Dont forget your hat.

45 More days of this hell and then...

27 to 95 for 3 months of CHEESE BURGERS IN PARADISE....

By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 20, 13 7:41 AM
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By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 20, 13 7:41 AM
What about your employees, unemployment for the winter. Tooling down 95 in his 5 mpg Escalade, crying about the price of gas. Crying thief about everyone else except the guy in the mirror.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 20, 13 6:17 PM
Ignorant, and wrong as usual there bigfrump.

Via WSJ:

Former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers calls income inequality in the United States "profoundly corrosive".

Trickle down economics does not work. Super sorry...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 20, 13 11:04 PM
How embarrassing this nightmare is,

'MR. PRESIDENT, TEAR DOWN THIS WEBSITE'...
'UH OH!': Healthcare Site Crashes While Sebelius Tries To Sign Person Up At Media Event...
POLL: 61% Disapprove Of Obamacare...
PAYBACK: Koch Bros. Target Dems Who Voted For It...
Plans in DC Cover Abortion, Not Hearing Aids...
Distraught Mom: Son Thinks Feds Planted 'Obamacare' Chip In His Teeth, Cameras In Dog's Eyes...
Expert: Hackers can access private info...
Concierge Perks ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 20, 13 11:56 AM
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Independent contractors are not eligible for the "dole" , only employees are.
, if you had any experience in the private sector you would know that. 10 more weeks and then some well deserved r&r deep in the Pacific!
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 20, 13 12:37 PM
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to Captn America:

The Politico article to which you refer has nothing to do, repeat, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO, with your earlier assertion which I reproduce in full, infra, just in case you are disingenuously conflating it with another:

Quote:

"If you polled Tea Party principles agains liberal principles, the Tea Party would win hands down.

'Americans favor Tea Party principles over progressive by 2:1'"

By Captn America (3010), Barack Obama's America ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 20, 13 3:27 PM
Phil's plan is to keep posting that the Republicans have no plan.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 20, 13 6:55 PM
" The recovery is slow "

By philathome (6264), Southampton on Sep 25, 13 6:06 PM


U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Nov 2013 at 12:08:47 AM GMT is:
$ 1 7 , 2 0 3 , 7 0 3 , 5 4 9 , 2 0 1 . 0 1

By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 20, 13 7:10 PM
Obama Approval Hits Record Low

Other than the incompetent rollout of his signature health program, polling also shows that ObamaCare itself is increasingly unpopular. The Real Clear Politics poll of polls that looks at ObamaCare's approval rating shows that only 39% approve, with 53.6% disapproving.

That is ObamaCare's highest disapproval rating

A CBS News poll released Wednesday shows that President Obama and his signature piece of legislation have hit record lows. Only ...more
Nov 20, 13 7:04 PM appended by 27dan
...more 37% of those polled approve of the job the president is doing, with 57% disapproving. ObamaCare is even more unpopular. A full 61% disapprove of the health care law. Only 31% approve.
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 20, 13 7:04 PM
"Manufactured outrage" is not exclusive to FOX. All the media participates in that practice and the last time I checked the liberal media outnumbers the conservative media.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 21, 13 8:05 AM
to Captn America:

Herewith the simplicity that you crave:

1) You post a quote from The Daily Caller to support an argument.
2) You subsequently deny using The Daily Caller as an authority.
3) You pledge to apologize for your denial if anyone can show you to have misspoken.
4) I re-post your quote to refute your denial.
5) You renege on your pledge.

However, one realizes the fecklessness of waiting for an extreme Right-Winger to accept a reality that opposes ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 21, 13 11:33 AM
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to Captn America:

"As has been pointed out, decent medical has ALWAYS been available tor poor and working Americans - this is a liberal fallacy and lie."

On the contrary, your assertion is a lie. Just one of the most recent examples of the performance of "The Republican Healthcare Plan" vis a vis the poor can be viewed by googling, "I Watched My Patients Die of Treatable Diseases Because They Were Poor."

Poor Americans are denied access to decent medical care thousands ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 21, 13 1:10 PM
Button pushed on the "Nuclear Option"....extremely heavy fallout predicted nationwide
By loading... (579), quiogue on Nov 21, 13 3:05 PM
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I'll just wait for the other shoe to drop.....and it will
By loading... (579), quiogue on Nov 21, 13 3:59 PM
no, there it is NOT...not yet. The nuclear option has been a threat used by both parties, as MAD (mutually assured destruction} was during the Cold War, but nobody was stupid enough to use either.

Until now

225 years of Senate protocol wiped out by Reid in a fit of desperation.
I pray he lives to see the outcome...
By loading... (579), quiogue on Nov 22, 13 1:08 AM
Drama queens in Washington mirrored here.

Re-distribution of power underway.

Anachronistic filibuster rules were due for a change long ago.

Yes, they were . . .

Yes we can . . .
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 22, 13 3:21 AM
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"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."
-- Thomas Jefferson
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 21, 13 4:07 PM
Lets all make sure we remember now, Its called OBAMACARE!

BHO’s broken promises, rising premiums, insurance cancellations and a disastrous roll out. has caused his approval rating to plummeted as a result.

Yesterday, Obama referred to his law as the Affordable Care Act 12 times but did not say “Obamacare” once. Nancy Pelosi, who has referred to the law as Obamacare religiously in the past, told David Gregory that she “always” referred to it as the ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 21, 13 5:29 PM
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Signed up with OBAMACARE, saving a THOU a month. I will have a better policy. I won't have to pay 100% for drugs. No problem with web-site. What do you have to say for that UD? Only one policy out of 53 that was more expensive then I currently have now. A little competition is good for US?
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 21, 13 7:58 PM
What do I say I say if your Savin, someone else is Payin
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 21, 13 10:00 PM
We all are.

Family coverage has increased in price by over 130% since 1999, and in the last decade medical insurance profits have increased by over ten billion dollars.

Who's not being [expletive deleted] is a shorter list...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 21, 13 10:25 PM
This is why I stated it was an insurance problem.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 22, 13 7:01 AM
I was paying $24000 a year before Obamacare, now I will pay $963 with a better policy. I did not qualify for a subsidy. How much do you pay UD? What's your big contribution?
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 22, 13 5:19 PM
Don't fall for the Nuclear Option bait and switch... Its about Obamacare and the economy nothing else.

As for the Filibuster change Democrats will absolutely Rue the Day.

Now stay focused on this disaster Obamacare
Nov 21, 13 10:14 PM appended by joe hampton
Just reading what George Will said about this subject... George Will: New Filibuster Rules Could Lead To Repeal Of Obamacare " There's no limiting principle in the principle that they're invoking, that is majorities should rule all the time. What this means is if in the spring of 2017 there is a Republican president, which there could be, the Republicans still hold the House and they have 51 Senators, they can repeal Obamacare with 51 votes. And I'm not sure the people who did this today have thought this through"
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 21, 13 10:14 PM
to Captn America:

It is hard to believe that anyone who has read the article that I posted would still be capable of blandly and complacently mouthing the official Republican Party line about healthcare for the poor since it turns all of the self-indulgent lies therein on their heads. I had, of course, forgotten the unmatched ability of the extreme Right-Wing to ignore inconvenient truths in favor of ideological dogma, particularly when it comes to national health insurance.

For ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 22, 13 1:57 AM
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Mets Fan, obviously you qualified for a subsidy, get down on your knees and thank the productive members of society who are paying your bill!
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 22, 13 6:24 AM
I didn't qualify for a subsidy. Have you even logged into the site yet?
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 22, 13 4:57 PM
Talk about having a chance and blowing it, LOL

little be of denial going on there I would say Cap
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 22, 13 5:14 PM
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By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 22, 13 5:24 PM
Mirror?
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 22, 13 5:45 PM
Mets fan, could you please define "piss-ant," and how you know someone else's business income ("net" one assumes)?

Thank you.
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 22, 13 5:48 PM
Mets fan brings nothing to the debate but this nonsense. Phil and Z dig in and lob grenade after grenade while Mets fan stands behind yelling, "Yeah, what he said"
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 24, 13 7:53 AM
I bring nothing but facts and realties, while you lob empty statements.Try backing your opinions with facts and truths.Taking your meds would be good too.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 24, 13 9:37 AM
Sorry Phil, that post came across wrong. What I meant was that you guys stand behind what you say. You dig in, take your stance and stand behind it. I don't agree with most of what you say and you get under my skin like most can't but you hold to your views. Wasn't trying to disparage you at all despite previous posts.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 24, 13 9:38 PM
Hey Mets fan, show me some of these so l called facts that you have brought. Seriously, what facts are you referring to?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 24, 13 9:40 PM
I am just looking forward to the next historic benchmarks for Obamacare and the sycophant responses that will be posted.
1. When 50 to 100 million people lose their healthcare next year.
2. When the first person dies from Obamacare
3. When idiot Democrats who mindlessly supported the law lose their seats in 2014.
4. When the Republican controlled House and Senate repeal Obamacare with a simple majority vote in 2017 (thanks Harry) and with a simple pass of his pen President Cruz ...more
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Nov 22, 13 12:13 PM
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Remember Sam Cooke's "A Change Is Gonna Come?"

Prepare your life preservers and life rafts, Preliator, 'cause a tidal wave of change is a'comin' . . .

Your blinders may prevent you from seeing what is apparent to others. Phil's post is cogent and wise in its simplicity IMO, although this suggestion may make you gag.

In any event, the tidal wave does not really care if you like it, or not. Nor whether you feel nauseous.

Have a good weekend . . .

Peace ...more
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 22, 13 6:02 PM
Peace...Peace is a lie. Peace is that brief interlude between periods of change, between upheavals. The seeds of that upheaval are being sown right now, by you, by people like you and I don't think you are going to like the bitter harvest that springs forth.

As far as Phil's post, well, I am pretty sure the party faithful will believe that, fanatics always do.
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Nov 23, 13 6:32 AM
"To secure peace, is to prepare for war."

~ Hetfield/Ulrich


Si vis pacem, para bellum.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 23, 13 7:32 AM
Per Preliator:

"Peace is a lie."

One therefore assumes that you are not a person of Faith?

Peace on Earth starts in each human heart . . .
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 23, 13 8:47 AM
PS -- If Peace is not the chosen destination for one's human vessel, then toward what port does the voyage take you?

War?

Lashing out in anger?

How is that working out?
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 23, 13 8:57 AM
to Captn America:

Your post is stereotypical extremist Right-Wing cant that exemplifies the chilling lack of empathy habitually displayed by you and your colleagues. You determinedly ignore a wrenching, first-person account of the inhumane conditions under which real flesh-and-blood Americans are suffering thanks to the indifference of your confederates in Texas, and nonresponsively post the inchoate and ambiguous Republican wish list (referred to by you as "The Republican Healthcare Plan") ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 22, 13 7:47 PM
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It is obvious what you say is true, but this is the culmination of a 100 year progressive dream to even the playing field and have everyone be equally miserable. They hate the separation of powers, states rights and the bedrock of this country and will not go quietly into the night.
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 23, 13 8:04 AM
to Captn America:

One notes that you continue to avoid addressing the question of how to help those poor unfortunates described in the article whose deplorable medical care is the result of Right-Wing meanness. Understandable. While their desperate circumstances may not move you, personally, you probably appreciate how repellent your overt cold-bloodedness is to normal people. Best to avoid the subject entirely.

On the other hand, your repetition of the lie that the ACA will ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 23, 13 12:36 PM
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If that formula holds up your In a heap o trouble boy
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 23, 13 5:33 PM
to Captn America:

No doubt the poor, sick and dying in Texas are deeply grateful to Right-Wing extremists for preventing them from being ensnared in a "perpetual state of dependency". We Liberals, on the other hand, would compel them to risk that fate and would ensure them decent medical care by the eminently simple means of enrolling them in Medicaid as the ACA envisions. Moreover, although the CBO estimates that the Affordable Care Act will REDUCE the national deficit by $41B in 2013, ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 23, 13 11:14 PM
Your boy Barry owns this disaster along with His band of merry Marxists! All hail King Barak, peace be upon Him.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 24, 13 8:35 AM
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Pointless even reading bf posts. Same old racist and bigoted spew. Aren't you embarrassed to be a republican with the likes of bf.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 24, 13 9:42 AM
Another embarrassment to your party.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 24, 13 12:28 PM
Bigoted and racist,proud of it. Today's republican party based on private KKK's post. That's why I left after being a republican for thirty -three years.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Nov 24, 13 3:16 PM
Well Phil, your last few posts don't change the FACT that your boy Barry Soetoro and the rest of the leftists own the disaster that is Obamacare. You can't hide from the truth.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 24, 13 12:34 PM
to Captn America:

Quote (me):

“Now tell us, Captn, precisely how will the Republican “plan” help these folks? “

Your persistent (and persistently frantic) evasion of an answer to this question over the course of this discussion is answer itself. The Republicans have nothing and will do nothing. The Republican “plan” is the status quo (or worse) wherein the poor are left to suffer and die. But, hey, thanks for another serving of extremist ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 24, 13 1:44 PM
to Captn America:

To reiterate, the CBO estimates that the ACA will save the federal government $1.4T over 20 years versus the cost of status quo healthcare (or over its cost if the ACA is repealed.) Thus your verbose post is completely irrelevant as is your summoning of the boogeyman of bankruptcy. Whatever the federal government spends on healthcare in the next twenty years, it will be ONE-POINT-FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS LESS than it would be without the ACA.

Glad to see that you ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 24, 13 8:39 PM
HHS, sounds like they used the same calculator that they used when they said the Irag war would pay for itself. Sorry if I am skeptical.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 24, 13 9:31 PM
to Captn America:

To reiterate, the CBO projects an ACA savings of $1.4 trillion over twenty years. The current estimate is for a $190 billion savings in the first ten years and a further $1.2 trillion savings in the second ten years. The CBO estimated the second decade deficit reduction at the request of lawmakers. (CNN, March 18, 2010)

Your ultimate post is simply more irrelevant dicta that in no way contradicts this fact but strives to misdirect by throwing up a lot of chaff ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 25, 13 1:27 AM
more pseudo intellectual clap trap, tempered with a little Marxist rhetoric, classic HH bovine excrement. Obamacare is a disaster owned completely by the Demokratz and Der Fuhrer.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 25, 13 6:29 AM
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"The incontrovertible fact is that the ACA is estimated to REDUCE THE FEDERAL DEFICIT BY ONE-POINT-FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS over the next twenty years."

That is a pipe dream. Fuzzy math. Will never happen. OK, it's a "fact" that its just an "estimate". Got it. Our government, both sides, has not shown me the ability to cut spending. Period.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 25, 13 8:45 AM
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By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 25, 13 5:02 PM
It is the wealthys $ to decide what to do with NOT YOURS! and don't worry when your boy gets done with the military we will all be speaking Chinese
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 25, 13 5:02 PM
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 26 Nov 2013 at 03:28:10 AM GMT is:
$ 1 7 , 2 1 8 , 3 3 9 , 9 1 9 , 9 5 2 . 3 8

The estimated population of the United States is 317,118,893
so each citizen's share of this debt is $54,296.17.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 25, 13 10:29 PM
NO.

It is the Republic's decision how money flows into politics. It is the PEOPLE'S decision how their government operates, not the decision of a minority of wealthy patrons. We have the RIGHT to demand corporations and not only massive, but generational wealth NOT be involved in civic life just like this country was founded to be.

Sometimes you really are horribly obtuse, and royally unpatriotic.
Nov 25, 13 10:55 PM appended by Mr. Z
"Empire of Liberty", by Gordon S. Wood is authored by the single greatest American historian of our age, and possibly this country's history. I'm more than rather confident you know nothing of his work.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 25, 13 10:55 PM
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Gonna add that book to the kindle
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 26, 13 8:28 AM
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CNN: New Obama Poll Numbers 'Brutal'

"IF YOU LIKE YOUR PLAN YOU CAN KEEP IT"
Nov 25, 13 10:07 PM appended by They call me
" WE HAD TO PASS THE BILL TO SEE WHAT WAS IN IT! "
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 25, 13 10:07 PM
"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

~ John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, first Baron Acton


Walmart CEO Mike Duke Forced to Step Down After NLRB Pursues Worker’s Rights Violations

"The board's decision confirms what Walmart workers have long known: the company is illegally trying to silence employees who speak out for better jobs," said Sarita Gupta, executive director of Jobs with Justice.

Gupta ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 25, 13 11:11 PM
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Is Walmart selling dented cans of Armour Ham again?
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 25, 13 11:21 PM
Are maybe that was just a Spam message?
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 25, 13 11:23 PM
LOL!

"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

~ Bertrand Russell
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 26, 13 1:31 AM
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No doubt!
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 26, 13 1:08 PM
ITS ABOUT OBAMACARE AND THE ECONOMY STUPID !

not inagration nice try
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 26, 13 7:07 AM
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Same old class envy Zathome, you have made the same point as nauseum, we get it, you're not happy that there are wealthy folks in our great nation, why not see them as an inspiration instead of seeing them through the green veil of jealousy?
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 26, 13 7:17 AM
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By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 26, 13 8:18 AM
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By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 26, 13 8:18 AM
Sorry I missed your comments Zathome, I'm sure that they were both enlightening and intelligent. As to Walmart, the company is under on obligation to deal with unions and their employees know that going in. Don't like the pay scale or hours? Don't work there PERIOD.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 26, 13 12:46 PM
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Bravo.
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 26, 13 2:51 PM
A fool's reply. And I knew they would be deleted, but I don't often warrant red ink unless I don't temper a reply to your inane and simple point of view.

WalMart takes over a town, eliminates multitudes of small businesses, and IS the main employer instead of small businesses like yours. You don't work for them, you don't have a job in many places across this nation.

Like I said, cocksure for sure...
Nov 26, 13 3:50 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, you still lack the mental fortitude to realize Phil and I are not one person. Cocksure above and beyond the call of duty...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 26, 13 3:50 PM
I've got a radical idea for you bigfrump.

How about instead of the Pacific, you spend some time emulating the "slum pope". Maybe it will help you see the world in the proper light. That is, if you have the guts to do it...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 27, 13 12:29 AM
to Captn America:

Glad to see that you have abandoned the snow job of irrelevant numbers, falling back instead on the ambiguous comment of the GAO for "rebuttal". Meanwhile, the CBO estimate of the deficit reducing effect of the ACA stands, making it the most practical and effective legislation passed to date to reverse the "unsustainable path" of federal spending.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 26, 13 1:54 PM
Listen HHs you are starting to sound more foolish defending this mess by the day, go ahead and go down with your ship its fun to watch
Nov 26, 13 2:05 PM appended by They call me
By the way, Alec Baldwin has been fired by MSNBC. Baldwin hosted a Friday evening talk show on the cable news network. Baldwin was caught on tape calling a photographer a "c**ksucking f*g." Oh crap that means he will be stalking his distorted celebrity around E. H. village even more now lord help us all.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 26, 13 2:05 PM
Thats it wag the dog... It's really hard to watch the President and the Secretary of State and not think how they cannot be embarrassed by this deal. when the people are screaming for ansewers on Obamacare! Think about this. Half a dozen times, the Security Council has passed resolutions which said Iran has to stop all enrichment otherwise there will be no change in sanctions, no relief. Which means six times China and Russia -- not exactly hardliners on Iran -- have signed on to this.

And ...more
Nov 26, 13 2:47 PM appended by joe hampton
ITS ABOUT OBAMACARE AND THE ECONOMY STUPID ! not immigration and also Dan... not about Iran! Phil your boy owns this mess!
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 26, 13 2:47 PM
If you can do a better job, then get hired, appointed, or elected to it.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 26, 13 4:04 PM
"Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a "free market", will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. The opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. Meanwhile, the excluded are still waiting."

~ Pope Francis
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 26, 13 3:57 PM
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to Captn America:

Quote:

"Well hhs, I've found nothing relating to support your claim of $1.4 trillion [in deficit reduction by the ACA] over 20 years..."

One is hardly surprised. When I earlier referred you by date to a quote that you posted on this very thread, you were unable to find it. Here's ANOTHER authoritative citation for the $1.4 trillion figure (to add to the citation of CNN [supra] that you couldn't find.): "Health Care Reform Bill Summary: A Look At What's ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 26, 13 4:24 PM
Does Obamacare cover the cost shoe polish for Krauthammer's hair?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Nov 27, 13 12:14 AM
Classy, mock the appearance of a paralyzed man.
By lucky and aware (44), Speonk on Nov 27, 13 12:30 AM
His paralysis has nothing to do with that poor attempt at holding onto youth, it looks foolish.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Nov 27, 13 1:07 AM
"Well, I think that the problem is that the argument goes much further beyond the contraception issue as you pointed out. This can be about a lot of things, and different aspects of health care. An employer could decide that they want to deny access to blood transfusions. And I suppose they could say you can go out and pay for your own blood transfusion, because your employer doesn't believe in that on a religious basis. But many of these are cost prohibitive health services, and beyond that, ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 27, 13 12:01 AM
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to Captn America:

["sigh"] Once again, if nothing had been done, if the ACA never been enacted, the federal share of the nation's healthcare bill would be $1.4 trillion GREATER in the next twenty years. If the ACA is REPEALED, as Charles Krauthammer advocates, the federal share of the healthcare bill will be $1.4 trillion GREATER in the next twenty years. Even Krauthammer himself, in the very first paragraph of his article, acknowledges that it would increase by $240 billion in the next ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 27, 13 1:28 AM
Paid my dues and paid my taxes Zathome, As for trickle down, you sir are a beneficiary, your job with the Town is funded with tax dollars, the wealthy homeowners in our Town pay the lion's share of those taxes, ergo they are , for the most part, paying your salary. The same applies with the service industry here, the wealthy require services from home construction and the associated trades, to landscaping and affiliated services to domestic services, the markets providing their food, restaurants, ...more
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 27, 13 8:57 AM
I don't work for the Town, Cocksure.

Millions of us have "paid our dues".

The "lion's share" you speak of is nothing but fiat currency which has devalued our nation's currency to $0.03 since a dollar was worth a dollar in 1913. 95% of the fiscal gains in the last four years have gone to the pockets of the top 1% of the population while compensation for the rest of the population has remained mostly stagnant.

You are like a horse with blinders on...
Nov 27, 13 9:54 AM appended by Mr. Z
And since you mentioned it, I did enjoy the peace and quiet, the lack of police and ambulance sirens hourly, no traffic jams, as well as corn and potatoes as far as the eye could see. Yeah, I can say not only I, but a multitude of people did enjoy that you fool.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 27, 13 9:54 AM
Same old same old class envy, broken record Komrade. Hey, I liked our beautiful area better before all the McMansions and the crowds that have come with them. I used to work on the bay and did very well, that way of life has all but disappeared so I had to find another career. Since the mega wealthy are here, why not provide a service that they need and will pay VERY well for? Adapt or be left behind. You still fail to address your status as a beneficiary of wealth trickling down, hypocrite.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 27, 13 10:27 AM
Your wasting your time trying to justify your hard work BF they are slackers
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 27, 13 10:33 AM
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If the wealth "trickles down", why did well over half of this nation gross less than 50k last year? Wealth always flows down from the top genius. You haven't adapted, you've sold yourself out to the highest bidder to live in your own sequestered world.

You live in a test tube with blinders on. What you think works here (in reality it doesn't), works no where else.

And joe, this "slacker" has three jobs. Talk about a self righteous pool of spunk...
Nov 27, 13 12:19 PM appended by Mr. Z
"As long as the problems of the poor are not radically resolved by rejecting the autonomy of markets and financial speculation, and by attacking the causes of inequality, no solution will be found to the world's problems. Or, for that matter, to any problems." ~ Pope Francis, the "slum pope"
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 27, 13 12:19 PM
14 hour days 10 months a year 6 to 7 days a week do the math.

I do not apologize for working hard enough to escape this hell for 10 weeks a year.

What you do not get and probably never will is you destroy the incentive to work with your " the more you make the more we take phil-osophy"
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Nov 27, 13 3:12 PM
to my husband, bf , captn , joe and the other hard working self made men on this site,

the problem here is the people who are trying to tax and regulate you to death will never understand the sacrifices you have made for your family and country you have worked hard and deserve what you have. please don't let them tell you otherwise. i for one thank you for being hard working, honest and strong enough to depend on.

they just want what you have but do not understand and could never ...more
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Nov 27, 13 3:25 PM
Sure, because unless you own your own business you don't work hard enough, or sacrifice enough, have a varied enough skill set, and don't deserve nice things unless you're at the very top of the ladder.

Since you're just so superior to the rest of us, maybe you should just exterminate all the perceived inferior people so you don't have to look at them...
Nov 27, 13 3:59 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, thanks Erin. I was doing a few things and had the "Reply" open for a bit. One thing I will say is this egotistical "I did this by myself" BS has got to stop. Unless you are a one man show, you depend on others in some ways, and to some degree for your success. If you say you do it all by yourself, you're a liar or in denial. The only possible way to succeed in a world where you did it all is to survive for decades as the sole survivor of your species.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 27, 13 3:59 PM
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POTUS Strikes Back: Obama Takes on Citizens United
By: Sarah Jones

Wednesday, November, 27th, 2013


Careful what you whiiine about, Republicans.

After months of Republicans putting on a show over being targeted by the IRS, only to find out that they were deliberately keeping documents from the public that proved that liberals were also being “targeted” (which means that no one was being targeted), the issue of alleged social-welfare groups claiming ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 27, 13 1:12 PM
to Captn America:

You fill the air with irrelevant chaff again, unable to post a single reference to contradict the CBO estimate that APPROACHES it in authority or respect. Instead, besides defaming it as "lying" and using "fuzzy math", the best that you can come up with is an opinion by Charles Krauthammer, which, even if true, would in no way diminish the deficit-reducing effect of the ACA. (Poor Charles, he neglected to note that the CBO estimate extends out TWENTY years, not ten, ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 27, 13 3:21 PM
HHS, We have souls were just not fools, It has been suggested to you several weeks ago that the poor do not need air conditioning when a fan gets the job done.

You just choose to ignore that fact. Obamacare is full of "preventative care" support counseling,nutritionists, birth control, sports therapy, hypnosis, even chiropractic and massage. These things and others a superfluous luxury's that should be earned not given.

Phil said,Since you still take two months off per year, you ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 27, 13 3:38 PM
oh boy , This just in - - - - - Here is one thing to be thankful for;

Reuters Poll: Obama Approval Sinks to 38%
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 27, 13 11:10 PM
Bf, Joe, Cap, Erin, PBR, Phil, Z, 27dan, hhs, blanl,tcm,marlinspike

Happy Thanksgiving.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Nov 28, 13 9:34 AM
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Thanks. Back atcha. Happy Tofurky Day to everyone!
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Nov 28, 13 11:53 AM
President Barack Obama and outgoing New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg have both tried to nudge their way into America’s Thanksgiving (or Thanksgivukkah) dinners, with talking points about Obamacare and gun control, respectively. Not only is introducing contentious political issues into a family holiday a recipe for unhappiness, but it also reflects the disturbing Orwellian ambitions of Obama’s big-government liberalism
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Nov 28, 13 11:55 AM
Thanks dnice, and thank you for your general civility as a commentator.

Well done.
By PBR (4947), Southampton on Nov 29, 13 3:25 PM
Happy belated Terducken Day!
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 29, 13 11:57 PM
Thanks DNICE,and the same to all of our dysfunctional family here at 27 east
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Nov 29, 13 7:07 AM
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Heres a good laugh for you all

Want more Obama?

In The Washington Post, Jonathan Zimmerman, a history professor from NYU, has written an article claiming that all of America’s problems would be soloved–GET THIS–if only we would allow Barack Obama to run for a third term!

He wants to amend the Constitution and abolish presidential term limits.

Zimmerman writes that Obama–whose approval rating is at an all time low of 37%–would be much ...more
Nov 29, 13 12:21 PM appended by They call me
If we were going to go to the trouble of amending the Constitution, I think more Americans would be interested in adding the power to recall this president than would be interested in giving him a third term.This so called professor, fully demonstrates the liberal mental disorder. America, have you had ENOUGH yet ?
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 29, 13 12:21 PM
Big deal. There was NO ARTICLE in the Washington Post. That was an OPINION PIECE - one man's opinion. Why get your starched panties in such a bunch over what you do here dozens of times a day? As far as Paul, you have just made the suggestion - again, big deal.
By VOS (1224), WHB on Nov 29, 13 1:59 PM
All depends on your perspective as you are quite comfortable with the current soft tyranny being instituted in place. But 8 years ago if this was being suggested you would have drove your pile of crap Prius off the road in a panic.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Nov 29, 13 3:29 PM
This was even more laughable (courtesy of News Corpse):

Fox Nation vs. Reality: The U.S. Closes Imaginary Vatican City Embassy

In it’s ongoing struggle to find evermore outrageous atrocities to attribute to President Obama, Fox Nation has reported that Catholic groups are appalled that the United States is planning to close its embassy in Vatican City. There is just one little problem.

The United States does not have an embassy in Vatican City. Nor does any other ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Nov 29, 13 11:59 PM
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Yeah, because who wants to engage in a clinical psychotic reaction due to the lack of cognitive faculties and empirical evidence by which to explain the Universe around you?
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 1, 13 12:51 PM
White House Misses HealthCare.Gov Fix Deadline

The Washington Post reports that the White House will announce Sunday that it has met its self-imposed deadline to fix the federal ObamaCare exchange known as HealthCare.gov. The Post also reports that, like everything else surrounding ObamaCare, this announcement is not even close to true.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Nov 30, 13 1:25 PM
Since when does this administration care about SAVING MONEY!!??!! Just another example of the Marxist in Chief doing all He can to bring this great nation down. This move is a slap in the face to all the American Catholics in particular and Christians in general , way to go Barry!
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Dec 1, 13 7:57 AM
Or maybe BF just can't handle the truth about unfettered, unregulated capitalism and "trickle down economics". Seems that Pope Francis has a firm grasp via his "Evangelii Gaudium". We have the worst level of socioeconomic disparity since the "Roaring Twenties".

I'm actually surprised BF hasn't pathetically called the Pope a "Marxist" yet...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 1, 13 12:20 PM
If the shoe fits
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 1, 13 1:10 PM
I have come to my own conclusion that trickle down economics does not work, at least we haven't seen it work. It is a great notion but I am not sure that we have any concrete proof that it is happening. Z had provided a link some time ago to a video that explained how a disproportionate few wealthy people own or control most of of the world's wealth and how it is getting worse. Should be required viewing for all. Time to see the problem for what it is and start thinking about what we ned to do ...more
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 1, 13 2:06 PM
A wise man once opined that a Republic could not exist if the wealth of a nation was only in the hands of a few.

I'll leave you to your own to figure out the quote, and just take a good look around.

Thank you, dnice. A Republic is just as fragile as society itself. A Republic on a grand scale is severely dependent on the moral character of it's citizens.

I like the idea of 1(c):

1a : absence of government
b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 2, 13 1:02 AM
In 2011, tens of thousands of government employees and others, enraged by Gov. Scott Walker's determination to break the ruinously expensive and paralyzing grip that government workers' unions had on Wisconsin, took over the Capitol building in Madison. With chanting, screaming and singing supplemented by bullhorns, bagpipes and drum circles, their cacophony shook the building that the squalor of their occupation made malodorous. They spat on Republican legislators and urinated on Walker's office ...more
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 1, 13 11:11 PM
to dnice:

Why do you not take the time to credit George Will with authorship. Your post is plagiarism without it.

It never ceases to amaze me that people continue to quote George Will so often. His complacent finessing of facts has characterized his opinions since Henry Fairlie skewered him for it back in the '80s. In this piece, he omits to note that TWO of the six Republican senators compelled to face a recall election were, in fact, recalled. One more and the Democrats would ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 1, 13 11:53 PM
My bad HHS, meant to add quotes and did not. Just a quick cut and paste. Doesn't change that it is a good piece.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 13 5:49 PM
to Captn America:

Even in the trivial, your ideology blinds you. You see everything though the severe prisms of True Belief.

My query to dnice was an expression of puzzlement over her failure to behave courteously when it was so easy to do so. (Most people don't regard courteous behavior as the province of schoolmarms exclusively.) It wasn't motivated by the fact that s(he?) and I often disagree. She answered, courteously, that it was an inadvertent oversight.

I rarely ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 3, 13 1:50 PM
Most definitely "he". Thanks.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 13 2:33 PM
to dnice:

Sorry. No subtext intended. I think that the fact that your username is so close to "niece" led me to conclude that you were female.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 3, 13 5:10 PM
No worries HHS. Appreciate it.
Dec 5, 13 9:04 PM appended by dnice
Phil, for someone who parrots what other posters say as much as you do, you have a lot of nerve chiming in on the subject of plagiarism. You lack originality but that's ok. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Maybe I should have put quotes on that.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 5, 13 9:04 PM
Obama has very real problem. Any honest person can see . He said

If you like your health insurance policy, YOU CAN KEEP IT. PERIOD.
If you like your doctor, YOU CAN KEEP IT. PERIOD.
If you like the hospital you go to, YOU CAN KEEP IT. PERIOD.

That has all turned out to be a blatant lies. T

the American people look at the president and they think, he's no dummy, he's a really smart guy, and because he's a smart guy, they think, well, that means he deliberately ...more
Dec 2, 13 6:37 AM appended by 27dan
misled us all to get his program through. People don't like that. Its confirmation of what we have always known about this community organizer, Its a reputation changer, and very very problematic for the man who promised to re distribute the wealth and fundamentally change the country
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 2, 13 6:37 AM
So Petulant and Silly isn't he
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 2, 13 10:21 AM
Thank the lord the worst we can do is Hilary in a short time this disaster has shown himself to be the bitter partisan empty suit we knew he was from day 1

Even Gibbs today on Morning Joe has thrown in the towel :

"It's Time For The Administration to Be More Honest About Obamacare
"The notion that it works for a vast majority of users, obviously, is as many have pointed out simply not true"

A big part of the discussion on Monday's program on MSNBC centered on the ...more
Dec 2, 13 4:58 PM appended by joe hampton
I would take Hilary over this train wreck tomorrow at least she tries to pretend to be non partisan, This guy just seems lost... blaming everyone but himself and never seems to be on the side of traditional American values he seems more and more disconnected... just the arrogant agitator in chief with a cocky smirk on his face
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Dec 2, 13 4:58 PM
Looks like a skinny Mussolini when he vogues for the camera! He had the freestuffer vote, that's what put Him back into office. There is no other reason why anyone voted for Barry Soetoro.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Dec 3, 13 6:55 AM
I don't get free stuff and guarantee I've paid more in taxes than you have earned in your lifetime, I voted for him twice as did the majority of americans. More stereotypes and bias from the right. Remember our soldiers who served this country and choose not to stay in the military for a career, over a million are on food stamps. Are there no work farms, no debtor prisons? Ebeneezer, no safety net for our soldiers who served us.
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Dec 3, 13 3:25 PM
"I don't get free stuff and guarantee I've paid more in taxes than you have earned in your lifetime"

Just how would you know that?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 13 7:59 PM
Why did you vote for someone who wants to fundamentally change this great nation? You allegedly have done quite well financially, why vote for an anti business , anti American community organizer for prez? No need to remind me of our service men and women, plenty of them in my family, some with us and some lost in Afghanistan. None of them voted for Obama though, not sure many of our vets or active duty servicemen and women did!
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Dec 3, 13 3:54 PM
Your the one unhappy with all the free stuffers. I vote for him because I would prefer to err on the side of compassion for people who are struggling or hungry. I know there are people who are irresponsible and those that cheat the system. However, this country probably throws out more food than most nations produce. We've wasted tons of money importing oil from potentially terrorist nations, just because we didn't drive a gas efficient car. Ask the parents of those serving in Afghanistan, when ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Dec 3, 13 9:49 PM
Its been said here time and time again the poor do not need air conditioning when a fan gets the job done
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 3, 13 10:17 PM
History would judge the United States of becoming very similar to that which it rebelled against. The only difference being we have a Congress instead of a monarchy coupled with corporate rule.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 3, 13 11:45 PM
The only difference is the people have not rebelled yet but don't worry; if Congress keeps doing what its doing and if you get another President like Obama things will sort themselves out.

We are long past due for a reset to get this country back to its founding principles and if it can't be done through the electoral process what does that leave.

This country has turned into a welfare state, one where 49.2 percent of the population get's some kind of Federal assistance. We ...more
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Dec 4, 13 6:53 AM
Yes Phil, it is all the Republicans fault, no Democrat has ever done anything wrong nor passed a bad bill. You know a little intellectual honesty could go a long way; while I can admit and accept that past politicians of BOTH parties have failed the people you are a zealot unable to accept any fault with anything your boy the magic messiah man has done.

He never lies, he never misspeaks; he is the perfection of all things good. Funny how they just released a study that found that hard ...more
By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Dec 5, 13 6:53 AM
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By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Dec 5, 13 6:30 PM
Republicans Are Clearly Happy to Destroy the Country..

That is intellectually disingenuous.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 13 8:00 PM
Depends on your definition, I truly think we are trying to save the country from the redistribution of wealthy, partisan judges, big government regulation and control .

You seem to think you can repeal the reality that obamacare is a mess with rhetoric.

5 million people who were told " IF YOU LIKE YOU PLAN YOU CAN KEEP IT" have now lost there private insurance. The reality is Its still very much broken!

And now you , Z, Hat, Mets fan,Progress now,Hazel, PBR and all the ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 3, 13 8:15 PM
Rangel the tax dodger
Dec 3, 13 9:06 PM appended by They call me
Who are you going to qoute next Marion Barry,Van Jones, Kwame Kilpatrick, Maybe Bill Ayers, Anthony Winner Who?
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 3, 13 9:06 PM
You forgot, Al Sharpton ,John Edwards, Jessie Jacson Jr, Eliot Spitzer,and my personal favorite dirt bag of all time Ted Kennedy,

Phil your blind Hypocrisy and double standards are truly amazing to watch.

Traits like that disgust and infuriate all Americans, and now, as Obamacare implodes before our eyes and millions of Americans have received letters of cancellation. Qualities like these are far too prevalent in this administration. It is obvious you will support this circus ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 3, 13 9:56 PM
Just because you haven't seen me, don't think I'm not watching and reading.

If you think I'm a "Socialist", you don't know jack **** about your own country, or it's founding.
Dec 4, 13 11:42 PM appended by Mr. Z
@TCM: In case you missed it, there has been a massive redistribution of wealth in this nation since the 1970's. 1% of the world population now holds over 46% of the it's wealth. In 2007 1% of the US population held 34% of the nation's wealth. As of the most recent data available last month, their holdings have now exceeded 40%. Take your own advice about the "Kool-Aid".
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 3, 13 11:42 PM
to Captn America:

Absolute rubbish. If someone posts a quote from a notorious Right-Wing website and omits the accreditation that would rob it of any authenticity, as you did with "The Daily Caller", I nail him for his duplicity. Conversely, in this case, dnice was quoting George Will, a (mistakenly) respected Conservative columnist. Dnice's omission was obviously an oversight rather than a subterfuge. I merely queried him over his failure in courtesy and saved my criticism for George ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 4, 13 12:32 AM
Here is a lovely "right wing" tactic. These really are law and order people. The refutation of this installment of "dirty hands" should be entertaining. And, lest we forget taxpayer dollars funded the project...


FACT:

California Republicans Create Fake Healthcare Website To Mislead Constituents
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 4, 13 1:01 AM
A stunning new Real Clear Politics poll of young adults aged 18 to 29 shows that in large numbers, they have turned against President Obama and ObamaCare.

57% of Young Adults Oppose ObamaCare and Want Obama Recalled
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 4, 13 6:01 PM
Transparency International rates America 19th most corrupt country our of 177 sovereign nations.

WAY TO GO!!!!!
Dec 4, 13 7:08 AM appended by Mr. Z
Oops, got that inverted. We're 19th least corrupt. Hey, at least we're not Somalia, but yet again we're not number one at anything which counts anymore...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 4, 13 7:08 AM
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Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC -

As it should tell Baldwin and Oberdoof we said hello

Two weeks ago, MSNBC host Martin Bashir delivered a harsh piece of commentary that culminated in the suggestion that someone should “s-*-*-t” in Sarah Palin‘s mouth. Bashir offered an half arsed apology . but decent Americans continued to demand action against the host. After a reported “vacation” for the host earlier this week, Bashir was Fired!
Dec 4, 13 5:52 PM appended by 27dan
F I R E D !
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 4, 13 5:52 PM
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By Preliator Lives (429), Obamavillie on Dec 5, 13 7:12 AM
"To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical" ~ Thomas Jefferson
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 4, 13 8:19 AM
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to joe hampton:

Another misquote, joe. Here's the real quote that doesn't mention "taxes" at all:

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " - the Jeffersonian Cyclopedia, p. 663, published by Funk & Wagnalls in 1900.

Dec 5, 13 11:59 PM appended by highhatsize
Prudence advises against hanging one's hat on any datum provided by They call me.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 4, 13 11:59 PM
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Obama's "Become The Very Danger The Constitution Was Designed To Avoid"

REP. BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): Professor Turley, the constitution, the system of separated powers is not simply about stopping one branch of government from usurping another. It's about protecting the liberty of Americans from the dangers of concentrated government power. How does the president's unilateral modification of act of Congress affect both the balance of power between the political branches and the liberty interests ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 5, 13 1:23 PM
Young Americans are turning against Barack Obama and Obamacare, according to a new survey of millennials, people between the ages of 18 and 29 who are vital to the fortunes of the president and his signature health care law.The most startling finding of Harvard University's Institute of Politics: A majority of Americans under age 25--the youngest millennials--would favor throwing Obama out of office.

By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 5, 13 1:10 PM
No one said kids were smarter these days.

If they're too foolish, immature, and idiotic enough NOT to have medical insurance I'm not sure I'd trust them with much else.

I've had benefits at every job I've held since I was in my early twenties. These kids are fools not to carry coverage.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 6, 13 10:54 PM
Poll: White Women Souring on Obamacare
by Elizabeth Sheld 5 Dec 2013, 7:08 AM According to latest Kaiser Family Foundation survey shows white women are quickly souring on Obama's healthcare program. The survey finds that 40% of college-educated women hold a very unfavorable opinion of the law, an increase of 10% from last month.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 5, 13 1:10 PM
So Der Fuhrer can decree what parts of the law will or not be enforced, you're OK with that?! As long as it's a big government hack masquerading as POTUS the left will agree with anything He says.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Dec 5, 13 1:37 PM
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It has always been the job of the executive branch to enforce the law. If the law requires pedestrians to walk on the sidewalk and the sidewalk has not been fully constructed it is well within the powers of the executive to not enforce pertinent sections of the law.
By VOS (1224), WHB on Dec 5, 13 1:47 PM
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By VOS (1224), WHB on Dec 5, 13 1:47 PM
White House Silent on Obama's Scant Sebelius Meetings

President Barack Obama’s White House is silent on the new report that the president only met with Department of Health and Human Service (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius one time since Obamacare became law, Amazing
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 6, 13 8:20 AM
Almost as silent as you five have been keeping Phil... LOL
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Dec 6, 13 3:44 PM
Hispanics Abandoning the President in Droves?
Last December President Obama boasted a 53 percent (average) approval rating. Eleven months later, however, only 39 percent on average now approve of the job he’s doing as president -- a remarkable reversal. Millennials and Women, in other words, mustn’t be the only ones losing faith in their president. As it happens, so are just about everyone else: Except the blacks, the Muslim's and Socialist Wacko birds ( his base)

By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 5, 13 6:33 PM
Media analysts slammed MSNBC's Chris Matthews for his 'wiffle ball' handling of his interview with obama last night... and you have to admit it was pathetic, Matthews fed him approved questions the liar in chief could easily answer without a teleprompter.Once it started it was obvious who was in charge. I actually think I saw a tingle between Matthews leg a couple of times as he waited with baited breath and the stupid look of a child for the "ONE's" canned multiple paragraph answers! this was no ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 6, 13 6:39 PM
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sorry i missed that was it that bad?
By Erin 27 E (1240), southampton on Dec 6, 13 7:05 PM
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Sorry I didnt get the chance to post this last week ,

“The Statue of Liberty and this wonderful holiday called Thanksgiving go together naturally because although as Americans we have many things for which to be thankful, none is more important than our liberty.

Liberty: that quality of government, that brightness of mind and spirit for which the Pilgrim Fathers braved the seas and Americans for two centuries have laid down their lives.

Today, while religion is ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 6, 13 7:59 PM
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We are also free NOT to worship some imaginary omnipotent being who lives in the sky.

We are also free NOT to have religious dogma permeate our civic life.

We are also free NOT to have someone else's dogma thrust upon us, or into our lives.

Can the crap.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 6, 13 11:00 PM
You wouldn't know the difference between Marxist Socialism and Communism if it bit you in the ***.

Tito and Stalin were NOT friends, AND even Marx complained that no one ever implemented his theories properly. "We" shall in the very near future live under the highest degree of socioeconomic disparity in United States history.

We are free in this country to not have religion involved in civic life. It would be a far better place if people followed through on that founding, core ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 7, 13 11:28 PM
Hey Phil, private business such as Amazon have websites up and running without help from the freakin government! If a business had a non functioning website pushing a product that most Americans want no part of, they would be finished, unfortunately that's not thecase with the government and our Chump in Chief.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Dec 7, 13 8:10 AM
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Phil since it is the first really cold weekend. Why don't you curl up on the couch and watch Bravehart maybe you can learn something about Freedom
By joe hampton (3396), south hampton on Dec 7, 13 9:38 AM
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Both movie Epic masterpieces wonder if Phil or Z have even given them a look. Could you imagine never seeing those two movies
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 7, 13 6:13 PM
Historical fiction you make me sick, You truly are a socialist.
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 7, 13 6:34 PM
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<----------------------------------------------- Relax Cap everyone saw the difference between a tea party rally and the O.W.S Scum, Let the chips fall where they will. every 20 years these takers need to be exposed for what they are to a new generation. With a 17.000,000,000,000 debt freedom will be back in style real soon.
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 7, 13 7:00 PM
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"Both movie Epic masterpieces wonder if Phil or Z have even given them a look. Could you imagine never seeing those two movies "

Based on a true story, and grossly, historically inaccurate.

Super sorry, but you come up ignoramus on this one. The only true accurate thing about "The Patriot" was the scenery.


"If one were to adhere to historical accuracy all the way, you'd probably have the most boring two hours on earth, but firstly it's entertainment and we've taken ...more
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 8, 13 7:33 AM
to Captn America:

You have no bottom at all. Now you state that you will post unaccredited references to discreditable sources at will and assert that there is nothing dishonest in the practice. Thank you, Baghdad Bob.

Furthermore, you AGAIN post the absurd results of a tendentiously phrased poll by an unknown pollster that appeared on an utterly discredited, Right- Wing website.

One wonders if the astonishing farragoes of vacuous inanity and thorough-going dishonesty ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 7, 13 8:28 PM
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U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Oct 2013 at 07:28:26 PM GMT is:

$ 1 7 , 234 , 8 8 1 , 0 9 2 , 7 2 4 . 4 7



Oct 21, 13 3:31 PM appended by They call me
" The recovery is slow " By philathome U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 7, 13 11:53 PM
U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 21 Oct 2013 at 07:28:26 PM GMT is:

$ 1 7 , 234 , 8 8 1 , 0 9 2 , 7 2 4 . 4 7



By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 8, 13 8:21 AM
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Only a complete Obama sycophant can claim 100 K out of MILLIONS necessary to sign up for insurance as a success Face it Zathome, Der Fuhrer's scam is an unmitigated disaster.
By bigfresh (4548), north sea on Dec 8, 13 2:40 PM
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By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 8, 13 5:38 PM
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Phil - the president lied to us. Can't keep what you have. Rates went up. Exchange alternatives are awful and the deductibles crushing. As a flag waiving Democrat, you should hold your party to a higher standard. They have failed us and expect the blind faithful to argue on their behalf. That's where you come in.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Dec 8, 13 6:24 PM
to double standard:

No, he didn't lie. Some rates have gone up, some have gone down. The healthcare.gov website is functioning quite well now.

But, please, don't stop whinging and whining. Watching the extreme Right-Wing writhe in an agony of frustration over its complete impotence is the gift that just keeps giving.

Nevertheless, our delight is tempered by compassion. Allow us to offer you this perspective to assuage any anxiety that you may be feeling over the efficient ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 8, 13 7:22 PM
to Captn America:

President Obama spoke the truth when he said in 2009 and 2010 that people could keep their health insurance plans. Policies in force prior to the passage of the Affordable Care Act in March, 2010 are grandfathered by the law. They don't have to conform to the requirements of the act. Anyone who has a policy that remains unchanged from 2010 doesn't have to replace it. Once the act was passed, the president ceased making that statement. He should, perhaps, have noted ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 9, 13 12:37 AM
to Captn America:

Once again, you make an erroneous assertion, your statement is proven to be erroneous, and you simply make it again.

You really, really want to call the president a "liar". Even after it has been shown that what he said was unassailably true, the meanness of character that defines the extreme Right-Wing still compels you to use that epithet. While no one disputes the fact that his assertions were misleading (as I stated earlier), they were, nevertheless, true.

As ...more
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 9, 13 9:37 AM
Fifty three policies to look up at the exchange. If your rates went up, you didn't even look at the exchange yet. Nine hundred dollars savings per month with a better policy. Insurance companies are hoping that you are too lazy to look into the exchange and you just renew their policy they shove down your throat. Amazing out of fifty three polcies offered on the exchange, only one was more expensive than I did have. Right wingers check out response of Kentucky governor to Mitch Mcconnell about how ...more
By Mets fan (1478), Southampton on Dec 8, 13 6:54 PM
That actually made me laugh out loud. The idea that you accept and defend Obamacare and think it solves anything is hysterical. The idea of accepting it because the repubs didn't have a plan is even funnier. Hey, let's accept any garbage as long as it is new. Follow follow follow, Philly. Don't ask where we are going, just follow.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Dec 8, 13 6:58 PM
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That actually made me laugh out loud. The idea that you accept and defend Obamacare and think it solves anything is hysterical. The idea of accepting it because the repubs didn't have a plan is even funnier. Hey, let's accept any garbage as long as it is new. Follow follow follow, Philly. Don't ask where we are going, just follow.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Dec 8, 13 6:58 PM
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New Affordable Care US health plans will exclude top hospitals
By Stephanie Kirchgaessner in Washington
Americans who are buying insurance plans over online exchanges, under what is known as Obamacare, will have limited access to some of the nation’s leading hospitals, including two world-renowned cancer centres.

Amid a drive by insurers to limit costs, the majority of insurance plans being sold on the new healthcare exchanges in New York, Texas, and California, for example, ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 8, 13 11:39 PM
Your right because its not the responsibility of tax payers to pay for free health screening and health maintenance care. set up a clinic if you want and stay out of our pockets. we work to hard for our money
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 9, 13 3:46 PM
UD, you are missing Phil's point he wants you to pay for for FREE health screening, nutrition workshops, health maintenance care.counseling services,birth control,sports therapy, pre natal care for people who don't work and or are here illegally and then like Obamacare architect Zeke Emanuel said yesterday on TV: If you want to keep your doctor, you might have to pay more for it, It is BS and Phil knows it and loves It. He is a socialist who want every one to be equally miserable no matter what ...more
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 9, 13 4:08 PM
Healthy ny, our plan, cancelled. Exchange plans offering much higher deductibles (post tax dollars btw.) You want a bad plan for your employes and family where the out of pocket will sting? Good for you. Healthcare not fixed. Talk to small business owners if you care to have a moment of reality and honesty. You think we root against fixes or better rates and plans? If the ACA made things better I'd be as happy as a clam. Sadly not the case. But keep on telling me how great it is. Maybe my bank account ...more
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Dec 8, 13 9:26 PM
No Its not but somthing else is
By 27dan (2776), Southampton on Dec 9, 13 4:33 PM
Via The Washington Examiner,

An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.

By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 9, 13 1:37 AM
"Horse and Sparrow" never worked worth a **** either...



"Republicans simply don't know how to manage the economy. They're so busy operating the 'trickle-down theory', giving the biggest corporations the biggest break, that the whole thing goes to hell in a handbasket."

~ Lyndon B. Johnson
Dec 9, 13 10:59 PM appended by Mr. Z
And yes folks, you guessed it. Horse**** economics.
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 9, 13 10:59 PM
to Captn America:

No, Captn, The Washington Post does NOT “label Obama a 'liar'”, as you claim, only YOU do so, thereby highlighting the extreme Right-Wing's preference for nasty epithets over accuracy, and adding yet another falsehood to your lengthy résumé of deceit.
By highhatsize (4149), East Quogue on Dec 10, 13 10:54 AM

Obama, White House earn top liar labels from Obamacare fact checkers-
Friday, November 8, 2013

The Washington Post

Add two popular fact-checking sites to the growing list of individuals and organizations that say President Obama outright lied about his promises to the American people — that Obamacare wouldn’t take away their existing health care plans.

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker on Thursday affixed a three-out-of-four “Pinocchios” ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 10, 13 11:06 AM
Taking selfies at a funeral is a major turnoff, no?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 10, 13 9:20 PM
Why is that trash talk? Do you think it is appropriate for a world leader to take a selfie during a memorial service? Bush had his pic taken with Bono. Neither was appropriate.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 10, 13 11:05 PM
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Nixon shook hands with not only Fidel Castro, but Mao Zedong as well.

Life goes on...
By Mr. Z (11561), North Sea on Dec 10, 13 11:36 PM
That is different. I didn't have a problem with the handshake. World leaders should address each other. The pictures rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe I'll feel different about it in a few days but it just doesn't seem like a thoughtful move.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 11, 13 12:01 AM
It has nothing to do with him being black. Enough with the race card. A fool is a fool in any color.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 11, 13 8:22 AM
Again, I don't see where anyone is complaining about the handshake. I am talking about picture taking at a memorial service. You can't even admit that it is at least arguably in bad taste because to admit to this would somehow taint his perfect image in your eyes. You don't have a problem with a selfie at a memorial service?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 11, 13 6:33 PM
Oh, Bam! President's approval rating plummets to 38 per cent overall, just 34 per cent on health care and 40 per cent on Iran

Obama's support among young voters has disappeared, with 49 per cent now saying they disapprove of his job performance
Hispanics' historic preference for the president shows signs of evaporating, with 43 per cent opposing him
52 per cent of the voting public now says Obama is not 'honest and trustworthy' and 51 per cent say he lacks 'strong leadership ...more
By They call me (2756), southampton on Dec 11, 13 1:32 AM
<----------------------- NO SELFIE RESPECT!
By Undocumented Democrat (2007), southampton on Dec 11, 13 9:42 AM
By the look on the first lady's face, Obama better get used to selfies.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 11, 13 9:56 AM
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LOL, there ya go!
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 12, 13 7:07 AM
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