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Nov 8, 2011 10:48 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Fleming, Scalera Win Southampton Board Race; Throne-Holst Reelected

Nov 9, 2011 12:09 PM

A nail-biting race for one of two open seats on the Southampton Town Board ended on Tuesday night with Republican Christine Preston Scalera as the apparent winner, but only by a photo-finish 85-vote lead over Independence Party challenger Brad Bender, according to unofficial results from the Suffolk County Board of Elections.

Party officials from both sides of the aisle cautioned that the outcome could change pending the tally of 791 absentee ballots that haven’t yet been counted.

According to the BOE’s unofficial results, Ms. Fleming garnered the most votes of the four candidates vying for two seats on the Town Board, with a count of 5,828 votes, or nearly 27 percent of votes cast. Ms. Scalera brought in 5,342 votes, or 24.7 percent; Mr. Bender received 5,257 votes, or 24.3 percent; and Republican Bill Hughes came in fourth with 5,173 votes, or about 23.9 percent. Fewer than 180 votes separate the bottom three candidates.

Ms. Scalera said while she’s standing by what the polls said, she remained “cautiously optimistic.”

When reached on Wednesday morning, Mr. Bender said he would not concede the race until the results of the absentee ballots were known.

“Over 85 votes? I don’t think so,” Mr. Bender said. “There’s over 700 [absentee] ballots. Had it been 85 votes the other way, I wouldn’t have claimed victory either, because the people haven’t finished speaking yet. I think it’s a little premature to claim victory or defeat at this point.”

A recount of the votes and the opening of absentee ballots will begin early next week—a typical practice in all elections, said officials from the BOE. It’s unclear how long that recount will take, but Mr. Bender said he’s heard it could be two weeks. An official at the BOE said total voter turnout numbers won’t be available until the end of the day on Wednesday.

Also on Tuesday night, incumbent Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst secured a sound victory against former Supervisor Linda Kabot, who waged a write-in campaign against Ms. Throne-Holst late in the campaign season. According to the results, Ms. Throne-Holst received 6,249 votes, or about 63.4 percent of the vote. The total number of votes cast for a write-in candidate were 3,602 votes, or a total of about 36.6 percent of the vote.

The official tally may not be available for another three weeks, Ms. Kabot said, though she’s confident that she garnered the lion’s share of the write-in votes for supervisor.

At the Democratic gathering at 230 Elm on Tuesday night, Ms. Throne-Holst spoke as though Mr. Bender had been elected, giving her majority control of the Town Board for the first time as supervisor, even though Ms. Scalera was slightly ahead in the race. “I have to say, a moment of true emotion came over me with the thought that what the last two years have been, I think, are over,” the supervisor said. “We have worked so hard to get to where we are today, and the thought that we were going to have two more years of that uphill battle was just painful, and I am really breathing a huge sigh of relief because I am confident that on January 1 you will see the three of us up on that podium.”

Ms. Fleming also offered positive words about her victory and introduced Mr. Bender as the “next town councilman.”

“I deal with this job because I love it, and I love it because we have been able to deliver real results for real people, and that’s why it’s easy to commit, not to misuse your trust,” Ms. Fleming said. “I am honored by that trust, and I’m looking forward to continuing to serve you with Brad and Anna, working hard for the people’s interests, not the special interests. With the three of us together on your Town Board, I assure you you’re in very good hands. We will not misuse your trust. We will continue to move Southampton forward. Thank you very much. We’ve gotta get back to work.”

Republicans gathered at Villa Tuscano restaurant in Hampton Bays on Tuesday night to watch the election results come in. In a speech thanking many of her supporters, Ms. Scalera said she looked forward to joining her colleagues on the board.

“I’m really proud of the team of people that I ran with, and I’m proud of the campaign that we ran,” Ms. Scalera said. “We stayed on the message. We worked hard. We stayed positive and we stayed honest. And as Bill would say, it was a pleasure to have run with you and I’m better for having known you. We left nothing on the field. And I’m very proud of that.”

Mr. Hughes also thanked many people for helping him throughout the campaign, but after his speech, he noted he would still wait to see what the official results were. “It was an honor,” he said. “I’ll see what the final numbers are.”

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Love the photo of Linda on the "other" site standing with a glass of wine....priceless.
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on Nov 8, 11 10:35 PM
What other site? Let us all in on what you find priceless. Or are you just making this up. If you are, it's very childish.
By luvdogs08 (16), southampton on Nov 9, 11 10:00 PM
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By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on Nov 10, 11 8:19 AM
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on Nov 10, 11 10:56 AM
Linda Kabot has been soundly defeated. Had you visited these boards over the last few weeks and read all of the far right nonsense, you might have believed Linda would win by a landslide. The lesson? These boards are NOT a reflection of the people of Southampton. Instead, these boards have been overrun by a very vocal MINORITY of rightie extremists who have absolutely no clue of the wider world as they are so completely absorbed by their own small-minded arrogance.

Good riddance, Ms ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Nov 8, 11 11:05 PM
not to have the endorsment of a party, decided at the last minute to run 3,602 votes is not bad.
By Bel (86), southampton on Nov 9, 11 12:00 PM
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Nonsense, Peoplefirst. Linda was a very late write in candidate (while Anna was fundraising over a year ago) and they almost always don't win unless they have a lot of money to match incumbents. She was not even on the Republican Line due to a deal Anna made with Wruck to keep the Republican line blank in exchange for Anna's dumping Bridget on the Independence line for Scalera.

And as for your narrative that Linda caused the ratings downgrade, your ignorance is breathtaking as it is ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Nov 8, 11 11:45 PM
Sour grapes.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Nov 9, 11 7:56 AM
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Obbservant: Linda had the job first, did a poor job, and lost it to Anna, fair and square. What else matters?
By TheWaterMillian (34), Water Mill on Nov 9, 11 12:08 AM
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Linda did a poor job? She spent two years fixing the mess which netted the Town the credit upgrade six weeks after she left office. Towns get into huge holes like Southampton did over years of abuse and out of control spending like Heaney did from 2002- 2007.


In Linda's first year 2008, she instituted a hiring and spending freeze after Heaney's wild spending, and ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Nov 9, 11 12:46 AM
Like I said...She did a poor job, and was voted out. The people have spoken...AGAIN
By TheWaterMillian (34), Water Mill on Nov 9, 11 1:37 PM
Wait a minute, what did you say. Can you post it again.
By luvdogs08 (16), southampton on Nov 9, 11 10:09 PM
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The town board is right where they have been for the past 2 years. Anna won but what did she gain?
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Nov 9, 11 12:11 AM
What did she gain? Hilarious. By the way, it ain't over yet, rage rep. Bender may still win on absentee ballots. Linda went down in humiliating defeat for the second time in as many elections and that is the sweetest victory of all
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Nov 9, 11 7:12 AM
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Congratulations to all the Trustee winners this time around. Fred Havemayer and Eric Schultz should enjoy the next 2 years because it will probably be their last as Southampton Trustees. They should expect that they will be without the Republican Line in 2013. Fred will also be without the Conservative Line. Let's see how they do with only the Democratic Line. I hope that selling your souls was worth it. As for Bill Pell, watch your back. You may find yourself without the backing of the Independence ...more
By bobalooey (45), East Quogue on Nov 9, 11 12:58 AM
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By Lewis&Lewis (1), Southampton on Nov 9, 11 4:29 AM
Congrats Anna
By Just the truth (1), southampton on Nov 9, 11 7:48 AM
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By Just the truth (1), southampton on Nov 9, 11 7:52 AM
Last night's elections were a sweeping victory for progressives nationwide. Voters across America flatly rejected republican overreach on a number of issues. In Ohio voters repealed Jon Kasich's law to strip collective bargaining rights. In Maine voters repelaed a republican law that stripped away a forty year law allowing same day registration. In Mississippi the voters flatly rejected the right's attempt to define life and strip away a woman's right to choose. In West Virginia and Kentucky ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Nov 9, 11 7:55 AM
I think that Linda has made as many fans as enemies; just like Skip. She once said that Skip had taught her every dirty trick in the book and that she was going to use them. How's that working for you now, LInda? To her credit, she got the attention of the Republicans, who started backing her toward the end of her cavalier campaign. Equally deparate, they made a good team.
By Dodger (161), Southampton Village on Nov 9, 11 8:57 AM
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Have a drink on me, Linda lovers!
By littleplains (305), olde england on Nov 9, 11 9:38 AM
Whether or not Ms. Holtz has done a good job or not the fact that she was running unopposed for a position of Town Supervisor is a blight on the Democratic process.
By Dr Spock (36), Hampton Bays on Nov 9, 11 10:29 AM
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We will see what happens when they count the absentee ballots but #'s usually follow the way people voted at the polls. If Scalers wins tell me peoplefirst what did Anna gain besides more of your hilarious empty posts. Anna not fast breathing a huge sigh of relief because Scalera may just be taking Nancy Graboski seat. When Scalera does take her seat on Jan 1 all we will have for the next 2 years is Anna complaining about the majority. Well I guess Linda will have to come back in ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Nov 9, 11 11:35 AM
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A minor factual correction here reg rep. The United States Congress is a bicameral legislature consisting of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. The Republican Party currently holds a majority in the House of Representative, not the Congress. The United States Senate has a majority of Democrats.

It is not uncommon for people to equate the House of Representatives with "Congress", but that is simply not correct.

On another note, just which ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 2:07 PM
Progressnow, there were 2 more progressive victories last night: In North Carolina Democrats won 4 out of 5 school board seats up for grabs from a Republican led board that tried to undo desegregation. A huge victory. Another victory was the successful recall of the author of Arizona's draconian immigration law. Americans are awakening. The same tide that swept in the teaparty is sweeping them back out.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Nov 9, 11 12:22 PM
I certainly hope that the Board of Elections is going to pursue the completely inappropriate vote tampering that went on at someone's instruction yesterday. The poll workers throughout the Town were telling voters, without being asked, how to write in a candidate. This is improper and the Board of Elections confirmed that they did NOT train them to do that in class. They told them how to write in a vote IF a voter asked. They did NOT train them to volunteer that information to every voter. That ...more
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 9, 11 12:28 PM
You go get those senior citizens! Get Em and bring them to justice! Expose Linda Kabot's control on the senior citizen polling employees!
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Nov 9, 11 12:32 PM
Throughout the town vote tampering? Really, how do you know?
What a scoup?
By luvdogs08 (16), southampton on Nov 9, 11 10:06 PM
How little you understand what's been going on behind the scenes, bobalooey. The voters got it right. They looked at what's been happening within the GOP, drew their own conclusions and marked their ballots. Trust the silent majority.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Nov 9, 11 12:34 PM

Dodger: "She once said that Skip had taught her every dirty trick in the book and that she was going to use themDodger: "

Anna campaign operatives are so brimming with unsupported loose slander that are so irrational and illogical which when challenged, they never, ever back up with facts. They just throw them up against the wall and hope some stick with the innocents.
You talk as if Heaney was a mentor which is so laughable because everyone knows Cannuscio who despised Heaney, ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Nov 9, 11 1:17 PM
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"Anna campaign operatives are so brimming with unsupported loose slander that are so irrational and illogical which when challenged"

Their signs say it all: People, NOT politics.

She won...Move on.
By TheWaterMillian (34), Water Mill on Nov 9, 11 1:40 PM
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By littleplains (305), olde england on Nov 9, 11 10:00 PM
obbservant that was just an awful post. You need to stop acting like Linda is some sort of saint. As for the DUI situation, EVEN if Throne-Holst received a call informing her of the then-supervisor's possible DUI, this does not mean that she was involved in some sort of plot to catch Kabot drinking and driving (the more important question should of course be why Kabot would have put herself in such a compromising position in the first place.) Secondly, to act as though this write-in campaign was ...more
By SayWhat (14), Southampton on Nov 9, 11 4:48 PM
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Say What
I don't think that obbservant's post was awful. She is stating facts, facts that you just don't get or refuse to admit are correct. I just love the way you spin the truth into lies. Let me explain the facts, Anna lied when asked about receiving a call the night of Linda's DWI. Remember Say What? It was not about the phone call it was about Anna being a LIAR. Now your other spin of the truth is your statement about Linda Kabot putting herself in a compromising position. Now your ...more
By luvdogs08 (16), southampton on Nov 9, 11 9:31 PM
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What election are all you people talking about? The tone here sounds like the day after a middle school student council vote. GROW UP! Your nothing but partisan babble simply reinforces the fact that the major political parties are clueless as to what THE PEOPLE really want. The minor parties get their kicks out of some idea they can act as spoilers and gain some power or respect they will neither get nor deserve.

A true grassroots campaign by a group of true independents interested ...more
By VOS (1241), WHB on Nov 10, 11 4:03 AM
VOS, you have just posted some of that "pointless, childish bickering"
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Nov 10, 11 8:33 AM
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By Lewis&Lewis (1), Southampton on Nov 10, 11 9:11 AM
YES!! Great job by the team of Throne-Holst, Fleming & Bender. Still a good chance for Brad. We'll see soon.
By Turkey Bridge (1979), Quiogue on Nov 10, 11 9:28 AM
Congratulations to the winners and the losers, the former for winning, and the latter for running a vigorous race and keeping the system competitive. That goes double for Linda Kabot, without whom we would have had the unhealthy situation of a Supervisor running unopposed. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the result, but Ms. Kabot did us a service nonetheless.

What I don't understand, though, is this: Linda says "I'm a Republican and I'm proud to be a Republican and I'm proud of this ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Nov 10, 11 10:54 AM
Fidelis, and I don't really care who you are, but under your logic and conclusion, if I become "Republican eleder statemans" then all those who supported the candidacy of the other non-enrolled Democrat for Supervisor, the one in the Independence Party must be "old" or "not so old" Independence Party statespersons. Last I looked whatever her party enrollment there was no party listing on the "Write-in" line. Are we in agreement about that, or do you wish to retract your scurrilous reference about ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 10, 11 1:30 PM

Beyond the normal partisan bluster that expectedly accompanies big political events, these Press blogs have an awesome democratizing impact Thank you very much Joe Shaw for letting these blogs be free flowing and informative.

There can be no real democracy without having an informed electorate. In a small town, the ability of the Published Press to shine the light of day on often secret, murky, backroom deals that affect the very fabric of our lives for years and decades to come is ...more
By Common Sense (56), Southampton on Nov 10, 11 11:12 AM
Common sense has it right. For all the nonsense that appears on this board -- and there's a lot of it -- these are the only posts that really dig in and get at the nub of the issues and personalities. I believe that's because, and only because, they're anonymous. It's the same principle as our being able to vote confidentially, without fear of any repercussions because of our vote. We should be able to do the same thing here, and the only way we can do that is through the anonymity of screen ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Nov 10, 11 12:55 PM
Fidelis, your defense of anonymity has some holes in it. To the extent someone fears retribution and has fact based comments there is some merit to hiding behind a nom de plume. Where the writer seeks to opine and make scurrilous remarks about other bloggers it is difficult to believe that fear is the motivational factor. We all are well aware that many prominent, well connected, high ranking, political party officials and county committee members from all parties choose to hide behind a screen ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 10, 11 2:48 PM
Mr. Tiger, you can easily pick out the Aparatchiks on both sides by the bombast, humorlessness and self-regard that waft, flatuslike, from their every posting!
By rabblerouser (46), Hampton Bays on Nov 10, 11 3:25 PM
As usual, NTiger, you do go on -- and on, and on. Much of it, and I refer to your later posts in this thread, is pretty canny analysis. I'm happy to concede that, but your keen perception of what's happening makes you all the more culpable for going offside. Ask yourself, who is helped by your purist no-one-but-registered-Dems stand? The Republicans, that's who, and that's why I called you what I did, and I stand by it. We're a team, and if you don't play for our team -- all of it -- then you ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Nov 13, 11 1:35 PM
If you think your vote is anonymous guess again,kid.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Nov 13, 11 3:50 PM
Ah fidelis of the Southampton Democratic Committee your team has forfeited the right to call themselves Democrats, and that's just fine. You wish to serve on the Dem Committee and hide behind a fictitious screen name, that's also fine (albeit to me a bit of cowardice). As for my team, well, as you know, I declined to remain on the Democratic Committee, opting for free agency, so that I might be free to support whomsoever I desired and no longer be restricted by the fidiciary duties election to a ...more
Nov 14, 11 10:20 PM appended by NTiger
You know, Fidelis, given your insulting comment to "my ilk" of Southampton voters, perhaps you would be wise to keep your true identity secret. Think about how many voters you've just turned off - small but, possibly crucial. Free lesson in politics, Fidelis, Never publicly criticize voters, or impugn their integrity. I think your comment here pointedly and unnecessarily did both. You need not apologize to me, but it would behoove you to apologize to those who chose not to support the candidate of your choice. You placed yourself on the Team, your words will now be attributed to the your Team.
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 14, 11 10:20 PM
Guess I got to you, NT. It's clear you have a hard time with several things:

You have a hard time limiting the length of your posts. (I bet you don't tweet; 140 characters would be just clearing the throat for you.)

You have a hard time dealing with criticism.

You have a hard time reading English -- I didn't "publicly criticize voters, or impugn their integrity," as you say. I merely expressed disagreement, referring to "you and your misguided ilk." One doesn't apologize ...more
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Nov 15, 11 11:59 AM
I have no problem repelling your thrusts and rather enjoy the sport of parrying with you. My only disappointment is that like Clam Pie before you, you chose to accuse without providing facts to support your allegations. Very similar to the manner in which your candidates conducted their campaign this cycle.

In fact, I offer you the following challenge, let us debate publicly all those issues we do not agree upon. Let us do so before the editorial board of the Press. You can come with a ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 15, 11 9:44 PM
NT, I'll no longer be an accessory to your clogging up the site with your endless posts. Dialoguing with you is making me feel like part of the problem, just by providing you with an interlocutor. So that's it, you win, Quantity over Quality, a typical Republican victory. (I have to tell you, though, 'ilk' isn't a pronoun.)
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Nov 17, 11 5:36 PM
I take it you could not respond to any of my questions. Par for the course Fidelis. I would hardly call that quality. When it comes to facts you all are pretty lax. So let it end, my one time friend.
I thought you might actually have some facts to back up your words. Obviously not and your opinions will be accorded their just weight now. Sorry Charlie.

By the way here is the Urban Dictionary definition of ILK

Urban Dictionary definition = ilk
Pronoun. Represents ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 17, 11 7:18 PM
I know I said I was through, NT, but I can't leave the blatant language error out there. Whatever the "Urban Dictionary" is, it's wrong. Try Webster's New World Dictionary and The Random House American College Dictionary, both of which call it a noun and neither of which mentions any "connotation," negative or otherwise.
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Nov 19, 11 3:18 PM
But no facts to back up your inaccuracies. And I think the people understand the pejorative nature of your use of ilk, so short and sweet. You use your dictionary, I'll use mine. Come on let's debate the issues before the Editorial Board. If that's the best you do - well it does explain a lot doesn't it? BTW how's that recounting going? See you again Monday morning. Why don't you bring the aforesaid dictionaries with you. I rather enjoy this little cat and mouse game.
Nov 19, 11 11:16 PM appended by NTiger
Merriam-Webster lists "ilk" as both a pronoun and a noun. So perhaps it is related to certs.
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 19, 11 11:16 PM
Let see what Anna can steal from this oposition like she did in the past
By Lewis&Lewis (1), Southampton on Nov 10, 11 1:06 PM
The face with the biggest smile after Tuesday’s election should be on the face of a person who wasn’t even on the ballot, Democratic Congressman Tim Bishop. Why, you ask? In brief, unexpectedly and counter to the pundits Democratic voters came out in traditional off year numbers, Republican supporters did not. As to why I would posit three main possibilities, not necessarily in the order listed: Southampton Republican supporters are for the most part moderate fiscal conservatives ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 10, 11 1:22 PM
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Ah, small town politics. Can't make this stuff up.
By lazymedic (100), southampton on Nov 10, 11 3:25 PM
Thank God we still have our Trustees! Well done gentlemen, congratulations.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 10, 11 3:29 PM
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I'm back again. Nimrod, I mean goldenrod, if you had half a brain you'd be dangerous. You people who felt pity for Fred Havemeyer and Eric Schultz need a dose of reality. They fired the 1st shot when they accepted the Mad Hatter's offer to run on the Democratic Line. There is still some question as to whether this was legal. The Democratic Party initially sent their people around with petitions to have signed, showing 4 Democratic Trustee Candidates on it. Sometime, in the dark of night, the ...more
By bobalooey (45), East Quogue on Nov 10, 11 9:44 PM
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Fact Check, bobalooey. First please note: Chairman Herr and I have not been buddy buddy over the course of this Election cycle, so my defense of him here is purely voluntary on my part. As for your accusation of events happening in the dark of night, that could not have been the case. It is impossible to replace candidates in the dark of night. By law a series of documents must be filed with the Board of Elections to effect a substitution of candidates. The candidates on the petition must file ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 10, 11 11:10 PM
You're point about Judge Burke is well taken. I think that he should not have accepted the Democratic Line as the Republican and Democratic ideologies differ considerably. As for your toughts on party loyalty, I couldn't agree with you more. What do you think about the idea of getting rid of the parties in the Town of Southampton and having the voters decide based on a candidate's experience, education and community involvement. What a novel approach. The candidates' resumes should be at the ...more
By bobalooey (45), East Quogue on Nov 11, 11 10:23 AM
The first shot was fired by GOP party leaders when Shultz and Havemeyer refused to put large donors wishes before the People's good. The leaders tried to get one to step down last winter so they could insert one of their "yes men" - your candidate as it happens - but it didn't work. You REALLY don't know the inside story, if you don't know that.

By goldenrod (505), southampton on Nov 11, 11 1:04 PM
I believe firmly in a strong two party system of governance. A system in which cross-endorsements are either banned outright or where cross-endorsements are allowed but each candidate still appears on only one ballot line (sometimes referred to as the Massachusetts system). Apart from the unwieldiness under current New York State Law such a “non-partisan” system would create (for instance the number of signatures needed on petitions to get on the ballot would increase dramatically) ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 1:59 PM
Goldenrod, I may not know the inside story but I know that you are asleep at the wheel. Havemeyer and Schulz were given the Republican line first. So what the heck are you talking about. Because Schultz couldn't get the Conservative and Independence Lines, he decided that to have a chance of keeping his job and being one of the top 5 vote getters, he would turn his back on the line that gave him their backing for every election that he won. Then Fred followed suit. The Republican Party was ...more
By bobalooey (45), East Quogue on Nov 13, 11 1:48 AM
Yawn. You are getting tiresome, and you still have the story wrong. But, it's amusing to see you get so worked up.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Nov 13, 11 3:41 PM

I am done talking to you about this subject. I can see by the number of comments that you have posted, that you haven't done much other than sit in front of your computer and give your diatribes. It is you that has become very boring to me. I'll toss about the comment ball in 2 years when the Trustees are up for reelection.

By bobalooey (45), East Quogue on Nov 14, 11 12:24 PM
Looks like Fleming's already got her eyes on the big chair, wonder if/when this will become too big an issue to ignore
By SayWhat (14), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 9:54 AM
and you have reached this conclusion because? (a) heard it from a burning bush; (b) heard it through the grapevine; (c) saw her in the Supervisor's office measuring the curtains; (d) saw her and anna both grabbing for the seat when the music stopped; (e) think a Democrat ought to represent the Democratic Party as its Supervisor; (f) none of the above; (g) all of the above
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 2:32 PM
Is it you who is wondering if it will become too big an issue to ignore? Is it you that can't ignore it? Very strange post, very weird.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 11:03 PM
Throne-Holst versus Kabot, who won, who lost, what did they win and/or lose?

To those who have expressed the opinion that Linda Kabot is now politically dead and that Anna Throne-Holst has scored a stunning victory let me share some political realities. Using for now only the unofficial and incomplete vote totals, I submit for your consideration the following analysis. Yes Anna was re-elected and Linda was not. That is an uncontested fact. However, it is also an incontrovertible political ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 12:57 PM
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Anna, Bridget, Town Democrats, Implications for the future

First and foremost despite her best efforts Anna, at least from unofficial returns, has failed in her most important goal of obtaining a Board majority. Recall her emotional language (SPIN/OPINION - with a Rick Perry style momentary pause, lapse of thought, inability to come up with a phrase acceptable for family audiences?) about ending the nightmare of the last two years. So what will the Supervisor do, will she persevere as ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 1:14 PM
Random thoughts, opinion and questions about the future

Bridget, you are now the leading vote getter on Dem/WF lines, that makes you to lead elected Democratic Party spokesperson in Town, please start to assert your independence and take charge.

If I were to put a spin on it I’d remark about Anna’s decision to go from a Blank (not enrolled in any party) to an Independence Party enrollee. Democratic voters prefer to vote for Democratic enrollees. Bridget is a Democrat, ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 11, 11 1:29 PM
I totally agree Linda lost but she did very well as a write in candidate. Also as you said Anna won but received less votes Tuesday than she did in 2008. Less democrat vote. Do you think this is a sign that the voter's do notice that all she really cares about is herself.
By the way Say What makes comments with no facts to back them up.
By Ms11932 (12), Bridgehampton on Nov 11, 11 6:48 PM
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... the only reason Linda did "well" was because, unfortunately, there was nobody else to vote for. Cut all this voter analysis crap, please.
By William Rodney (561), southampton on Nov 12, 11 7:57 AM
Gee, so you mean vote for Phineas T Bluster won't count. Winkie thought you could write in the name of anyone you wanted if you didn't like the names on the ballot. Winkie likes the voter analysis crap, even yours Mr. Rodney. Winkie thinks if you don't like voter analysis crap, you don't have to read it. But what does Winkie know he's just an animation.
By WinkieDinkLives (9), Southampton on Nov 12, 11 9:39 AM
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... as I recall Winky Dink was always erased from the screen at the end of the show.
By William Rodney (561), southampton on Nov 12, 11 11:13 AM
Oh well...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 12, 11 11:52 AM
to be fair I think it's important to realize that there was much less of a need to bring out the vote for the supervisor race this year than in 2009. It is my opinion that we would have seen a larger showing in the supervisor voting (perhaps both for Anna and Linda) if the public believed that there was a realistic chance of victory for LInda.

And for the record, my comments very rarely claim to be fact. I generally respond to the posts of others and offer my take on an issue when it appears ...more
By SayWhat (14), Southampton on Nov 13, 11 4:26 AM
Say What
You say to be fair it's important to realize that there was much less of a need to bring out the vote for the supervisor race this year than in 2009. Oh really, I don't know how you could say that. Anna Throne-Holst spent a HUGH amount of money on campaign mailouts, newspaper ad's, radio time, TV time (Channel 26), Southamptn Project video $30,000 etc. So if the need was less this year than in 2009 why all the spending? It appears that both Anna & the democrat party did think a ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Nov 13, 11 8:41 PM
Well actually Reg Rep I clearly stated that there was less of a need to bring out the vote for the SUPERVISOR race. Of course Throne-Holst and team would still be concerned with winning a majority on the town board. I believe that much of the campaign effort aimed at linking the 3 as a team was done so in hopes that Throne-Holst could help Bridget if necessary (which it wasn't) and pull Brad in, which they may have fallen just short of doing. Did you ever consider the fact that Throne-Holst's ability ...more
By SayWhat (14), Southampton on Nov 14, 11 2:15 PM
The point that you left out was ATH was helping Bridget win after she cut a deal to make sure Bridget did not get the Indy endorsement. How loyal of ATH to help Bridget, what a peach she is. I'm not suprised that you make light of illegal donations considering who you supported in the supervisor race.
BTW it is you who ignores facts when presented.
Tell us what makes you think Bridget has her eys on the big chair as you stated above.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Nov 14, 11 11:00 PM
Hey SayWhat
Did you ever consider that Ms Anna only really cares about Anna. Have you ever commented about Anna being a liar? Have you ever commented on Anna hiring a town attorney in 2010 for political reasons? Does it matter to you that Anna took over $10,000 in illegal donations? Its time for you to think about who is missing the point and keep your bs comments in check.
By Ms11932 (12), Bridgehampton on Nov 14, 11 11:22 PM
Regs I wasn't making light of anything I just knew that by mentioning "Throne-Holst's ability to fundraise" I was obviously opening the door to this subject (which both you and Ms11932 mentioned).

Anyway, I must admit that I am not all knowing (SHOCKER) and would in all sincerity like to know more about the deal you believe that Anna made to keep Bridget off of the independence line before forming my own opinion on it.

In general Reg Rep I think you make some good points but can ...more
By SayWhat (14), Southampton on Nov 15, 11 5:34 PM
I do know her, do you? Look Say What I can see from your comments, opinion or not we will never agree. Anna has an agenda to suit herself. I doubt Anna thinks the job is thankless, yes I know more of your opinion.
I seem to remember you complained once about a comment being to long. Factual comments are hard to take especially if someone doesn't agree. This long post of yours as interesting as it was to read, leads me to believe that you have some free time. Maybe it would do you well to ...more
By Ms11932 (12), Bridgehampton on Nov 15, 11 7:56 PM
Hmmm. The small town that has 3 reg republicans to 2 dems elected an independent party candidate. Analysis: the TOS republicans drink too much of their own tea party kool-ade! Furthermore, Nancy G, the only real republican this Town has seen for a while, will be replaced by a new Brookhaven puppet.
Oh well.
By kelbas (30), Southampton on Nov 13, 11 4:52 AM
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FACT CHECK #1 - it is the "Independence Party" not "Independent" Party.
FACT CHECK #2 - The winning individual, who chose to enroll in the Independence Party ran on the major party Democratic line. She did not accrue sufficient votes on the Independence Party line alone to defeat a write-in candidate.
FACT CHECK #3 - Neither Republicans nor Democrats alone have a majority of voters. Those voters who do not enroll in a political party have for many years, in Southampton, as elsewhere been ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 13, 11 6:34 PM
Well stated! But intentionally used "independent" as a party term to focus on one being neither of the two 800lb gorillas at the party!
ATH may be labeled over another label, true; But even this gives the citizenry hope that an alternative is possible. Good statwegy nonetheless.
By kelbas (30), Southampton on Nov 17, 11 7:41 PM

SayWhat: "On that note, I will say this. As far as being a liar, I believe that if Anna's intention was to say that she did not receive any phone calls re the DUI then she did in fact lie. I believe that IF she was consciously choosing her words carefully enough to say "no I did not receive a call saying "we got her"" (without actually saying "no I didn't receive any call at all) then she was making a political move which you may call sneaky or dishonest but do so with the understanding that ...more
By Obbservant (449), southampton on Nov 17, 11 7:18 PM