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Jun 1, 2012 3:28 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

John Behan, Former East Hampton Republican Committee Chairman, Endorses Bishop For Congress

Jun 5, 2012 5:28 PM

John Behan, a former longtime New York State assemblyman and past chairman of the East Hampton Town Republican Committee, has crossed the political aisle to endorse incumbent 
Democratic U.S. Representative Tim Bishop for Congress this November.

With Mr. Bishop at his side, Mr. Behan made the announcement official at a press conference at La Bodega Restaurant in Montauk on Monday. The event was attended by Mr. Bishop’s staff, reporters, Jeanne Frankl, the chairwoman of the East Hampton Town Democratic Committee, and Betty Mazur, the committee’s vice chairwoman.

Mr. Bishop’s campaign announced on Friday afternoon that Mr. Behan would make “a major announcement” on Monday, but stopped short of saying he would make an outright endorsement.

When reached on Friday, Mr. Behan, a decorated U.S. Marine Corps veteran who also served as the director of the New York State Division of Veterans Affairs, said he believed Mr. Bishop— instead of his Republican opponent Randy Altschuler—was the right man for the job.

“I like him,” said Mr. Behan. “I think he’s a great guy. You have to remember, the first time I ran for office, I was endorsed by two of my biggest and greatest mentors of all time—one, of course was Perry Duryea, who was a Republican, and he was running for governor at the time. And the other was Otis Pike, who was my Democratic congressman. So I think that Tim Bishop reminds me a lot of Otis Pike. He’s an East End guy who was born and raised here. And he knows the neighborhood well.”

Mr. Behan served as the chairman of the East Hampton Town Republican Committee when Republican Supervisor Bill Wilkinson was elected in 2009. Mr. Behan stepped down as chairman in 2010 and quit the committee altogether in 2011.

“It doesn’t matter to me,” Mr. Behan said. “What I’m doing is from my heart and from my head. I don’t like his opponent.”

Diana Weir, Mr. Altschuler’s campaign manager, said on Friday the campaign had no comment.

On Monday, Mr. Wilkinson called the move a “local political grievance” borne out of the fact that the East Hampton Town Republican Committee didn’t endorse Marilyn Behan, a longtime Democrat and Mr. Behan’s wife, for Town Board last year.

“This is something that I believe is so far removed from what Perry Duryea would do,” Mr. Wilkinson said. “It appears that John is perhaps taking out a petty local position on which is the fact that the Republican Party didn’t endorse Marilyn Behan for Town Board.”

At La Bodega on Monday, Mr. Behan addressed those claims. He opened his remarks by saying he wanted to “dispel some rumors” that he was harboring a political grudge against the Republicans.

“It’s not about politics,” he said. “It’s about people.”

He went on to criticize Mr. Altschuler, whom he endorsed two years ago, saying he “disappeared” after losing the election by almost 600 votes. He instead lauded Mr. Bishop as a “homegrown” politician who “knows the district like the back of his hand.”

“I look at the record and I look at the people,” he said. “Two years ago, I supported Altschuler. Then I got to know him.”

After the event, Ms. Frankl said Mr. Behan’s endorsement isn’t that shocking given Mr. Bishop’s record.

“I think it’s just what you might expect of anybody whose been watching our district and our congressman over the years,” she said.

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By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Jun 1, 12 4:16 PM
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By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jun 1, 12 4:25 PM
Wow, hyperactive moderator/censor today, eh peoplefirst?

By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jun 1, 12 4:47 PM
Well, Mr. Behan is certainly entitled to endorse whomever he wants.

A few concrete reasons for his endorsement would have made his case far better than an amorphous "I like him, and I don't like the other guy".
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jun 1, 12 4:52 PM
Here’s the background: Mr. Behan was the Republican leader for many years in East Hampton. After many years of service to his party, he asked for and expected to receive political patronage for his wife. When his wife was denied said patronage in 2011 he quit the party in anger. After not endorsing Mr. Bishop in the previous 5 congressional elections, suddenly Mr. Behan decides Tim is his guy. Only Mr. Behan knows what is in his heart, but from my vantage point he is just another greedy, ...more
By Wagoneer (28), Southampton on Jun 1, 12 6:46 PM
Bulls eye, Wagoneer! Politics is all about, "What can you do for me"? Behan's wife also tried to run for local office and got creamed bad -- just more proof no one really likes her. Could be why no one wanted to hire her as a favor. Too bad for her. However, I don't think this endorsement is that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.
By Cosmo123 (7), East Hampton on Jun 3, 12 1:23 PM
"I don't like him" is a very concrete reason. It says it all.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jun 1, 12 5:09 PM
From Village Attorney/Assembly Member Thiele's Assembly biography: "Upon graduation from law school in 1979, Mr. Thiele became counsel to Assemblyman John Behan. He served in that capacity until 1982." Perhaps Mr. Thiele, who now caucuses with the Democrats and largely supports Democratic candidates and issues, influenced his former mentor to make this public pronouncement. Unless it really is just the remarkably shallow popularity contest thinking of I like this guy more than I like the other guy. ...more
By Richard Blumenthal (13), Westhampton Beach on Jun 1, 12 5:20 PM
What a terrific endorsement!.Tim is a great Congressman and a stand up East End guy
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 1, 12 6:02 PM
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Endorsing bishop? Really? It sounds like Behans defection from the republican party is now complete. Might as well endorse Obama while he's at it.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 1, 12 7:02 PM
Behan referencing Otis Pike's endorsement of him is telling. It wasn't that long ago- really only 10 years- when it was common for people to cross party lines to vote for the other party's candidate, and it wasn't as common but it certainly wasn't fodder for villification to have elected office holders endorse the other party's candidates. Tim Bishop is a son of the east end, and that is a valid reason to support him vs. an opponent that is the text book definition of a carpet bagger.
By zaz (197), East Hampton on Jun 1, 12 9:52 PM
Bishop being local is only good quality. He has also has also been a career politician. He has never served in the private sector and has no clue about financial conservancy. He is a classic tax and spend liberal. He voted with his party over 95% of the time with no regards for what's in the best interest for his district. He has represented the problem with government not the solution. If you and Behan for that matter are happy with government and the direction its been heading the last decade ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 2, 12 8:24 AM
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What were your thoughts when Hillary Clinton came into NY to run for U.S. Senate?
By Tennyson (77), Quogue on Jun 2, 12 9:29 AM
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Good point. Guaranteed all three of those people liking the comment didn't have a problem with Hilary running. Hypocrites.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 2, 12 10:26 AM
"Good guy". I have no doubt Tim Bishop is a decent fellow. But how does that qualify him for Congress more than a million other "good guys or women" in CD-1? Does living a lifetime in the district qualify someone? I don't recall the outrage at Hillary Clinton coming hear, wearing a Yankee hat, and running for the Senate. What about Bobby Kennedy from Massachusetts, er, New York, coming here and running for the Senate. Both were idolized by the same people who are calling Altschuler a carpetbagger. ...more
By BillO (7), Head of the Harbor on Jun 2, 12 11:31 AM
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Ahhhh - FINALLY the Dems show where they are at ... tooo bad it's not about East Hampton residents .... please - go away.
By Board Watcher (534), East Hampton on Jun 2, 12 6:29 PM
That was in response to zaz ... and, quite frankly, John Behan has made it plain that people "owe" him (whether Republican, Independance and/or Democrats!!) and has advocated for jobs for his sons and his wife in the political arena ... perhaps that's how good old Bishop fans are looking at it too ... no thanks.
By Board Watcher (534), East Hampton on Jun 2, 12 6:36 PM
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The main point of my comment was that there are (or at least were) elected officials that were as concerned with serving their constituents as their political bosses and corporate benefactors. Sad to see its no more.
By zaz (197), East Hampton on Jun 2, 12 9:11 PM
Hillary came with credentials. Outsourcer comes with the Koch brothers and all kinds of extremely right wing tea party baggage. I just don't understand how a woman or a man who loves women can vote Republican.They boycotted Rush for a reason.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 3, 12 12:32 PM
Yes and you guys boycotted bill Mayer oh wait nevermind
By jams (129), hampton bays on Jun 3, 12 3:58 PM
Never served in the private sector? Career Politician? He worked at Southampton College for 29 years. I think 29 years at Southampton College counts as work in the private sector. He began his political career in 2003 I suppose 9 years in an elected office could make someone a career politician, but that’s debatable You may not like his politics, and that's fine but please be factual in your assertions regarding his background.
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Jun 4, 12 1:07 PM
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Being local ought to qualify, serving as Tim did in the academic world ought to quallify, being a decent common sense man surely does qualify to serve the citizens.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Jun 5, 12 10:54 AM
Fortunately, the Constitution determines who qualifies. Being local, serving in the academic world, and having "common sense", isn't any of them. And good thing for Tim Bishop, because spending $100 million of stimulus money that went to school districts, who reported creating fifteen jobs, clearly demonstrates there is nothing common about common sense. Other stats indicate that the jobs he brought to the district cost tax payers well over $1 million per job. That’s a far cry from common ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Jun 5, 12 12:01 PM
Mr. Behan is a great man and a hero to me.! He served his country with valor. Also, he was a great public servant and advocate for us on the east end. He represented us well during his tenure in Albany as an Assembyman.
We should all have the love of country like Mr. Behan. His endorsement of
Congressman Bishop is right on target. Mr. Bishop is the right person for the
job.
By Jimion (129), Hampton Bays on Jun 2, 12 11:51 AM
Hillary Clinton and Bobby Kennedy came with National Recognition and outstanding reputations.How can you compare them to outsourcer who comes with the Koch brothers and their vile manipulations
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 2, 12 11:52 AM
I guess "outstanding reputations" is subjective.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jun 2, 12 4:04 PM
Bobby Kennedy certainly had a reputation
By jams (129), hampton bays on Jun 3, 12 5:49 PM
Bobby was assassinated in the service of our Country and Hillary is Sec. of State a very difficult job
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 4, 12 11:09 AM
Thank you Mr. Behan for your courage, in all respects.

As you suggest, Otis Pike broke the mold on The East End, and he represented us well in Washington. At the time of Mr. Pike's election, Stuyvie Wainwright was livid about certain local papers' endorsements of Mr. Pike.

The rest is history.

Have a good weekend.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jun 2, 12 3:02 PM
A daily publication to the west is reporting that Mr. Bishop's office has announced that the Army Corps of Engineers will fund a $5 million dredging of Shinnecock Inlet, plus stabilization of the beach to the west of the inlet.

Well done.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jun 2, 12 3:51 PM
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What a joke. Tim Bisop is the right man for the job? Really? Not a surprising comment in the liberal wasteland that is the East End. Tax and spend has never worked. He will just continue to vote with the Socialist party.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jun 2, 12 4:02 PM
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From your mouth to God's ear, dnice! The East End a "liberal wasteland"? Would that it were so, the liberal part, that is. To put it mildly, those of us here in Southampton town don't find that to be the case, but we're workin' on it.

Tim Bishop does the job and delivers for his constituents; witness the Shinnecock Inlet dredging that PBR posts just above, so ask the fishermen how they like Tim. Stick with the guy who does the job, I say.

This business of putting Altschuler ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1979), Quiogue on Jun 2, 12 5:18 PM
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Speaking of Hillary - I am reminded of her initial opponent: Rudy Giuliani, which reminds me of one of the major milestones of the 1994 NYS govonors race: Rudy crossing party lines to endorse Mario Cuoms vs. George Pataki(no one was more enraged than Alfonse D'Amato!).
By zaz (197), East Hampton on Jun 2, 12 9:35 PM
Altschuler is an outsourcing opportunist! Let's send him back home to New Jersey or maybe Mumbai…again!
Tim Biship was born, raised and settled here.....he has my vote.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jun 2, 12 10:14 PM
Note. Behan was the FORMER EH republican chair. I believe he isnt even a registered republican anymore (if he is he should turn in his card). I respect what Behan did for the country but Bishop is so far to the left and opposite of republican ideals that Behan should check his drivers license and reevaluate what he stood for all of these years. I challange Behan to base his decesion on Bishops voting record and efficiency not the fact that he's a good old boy. This isnt high school
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 3, 12 8:14 AM
Typical Republican claptrap.Mr Behan is a Disabled American Veteran. You have no compassion for him at all.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 3, 12 12:39 PM
Tiana, no one here is questioning or criticizing Behan’s service and sacrifice. But, to be fair since you've injected it, Democrats have routinely criticized the service of military leaders, and the military disabled. Remember General Betray Us (Petraeus)? A decorated US Army leader for 37 years who the left took a full page ad on in the New York Times to deliver their agenda, just because they didn’t like what he had to say in a report on the status of Iraq. They hatefully accused ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Jun 3, 12 2:15 PM
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"War is a racket."

Check out the History Channel video from "A People's History of the United States".

The .01% love you for being ignorant.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 4, 12 7:10 AM
Right on, Razza!
We respect Behan's military service so don't try to play that game, TianaBob. Let it be said that he is owed a great deal of gratitude for his time served in Vietnam and we would never take that away from him. However, military veterans are accustomed to being challenged. They're big boys and girls and I doubt they expect to be tiptoed around and treated like wilting flowers. That is disrespectful. By the same token, people with disabilities also expect to be treated like ...more
By Cosmo123 (7), East Hampton on Jun 3, 12 1:35 PM
Veterans are used to being abused by our Country and the VA. A Soldier is an asset and a Veteran is a liability. We have a saying at the VA.You have two lives to give to your Country.One when you're in service and the second when you go to the VA.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 5, 12 12:04 PM
I'm sure you geniuses agree with everything Alan west stands for. If you don't your a racist and hate the military. I respect what he did for the country but his motives in endorsing bishop are very cloudy. Behan had been a staunch republican until the party decide to not run his wife for town council ( she is a dem) he then does a 180.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 3, 12 1:56 PM
Tim can count on my vote
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jun 3, 12 2:24 PM
When Jay Schneiderman ran for re-election in 2001 for East Hampton Town Supervisor John Behan refused to endorse Jay because Jay had not changed his party affiliation from Blank to Republican, although Jay was endorsed and ran on the Republican line. Behan said you have to stand for something and Schneiderman's reticence to register Republican meant Behan would not endorse him. instead Behan endorsed the person who he claimed "was the only registered Republican running for Supervisor" - BILL MCGINTEE!!! ...more
By factsandtruth (42), East Hampton on Jun 3, 12 9:41 PM
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Or more likely because that was the deal Frank made. The Independence Party has no true political philosophy, never has, never will. As for Anna, Fred and Jay, they were assured of the Democratic Party line and enrolling as members of the Independence Party meant they would not need to bow down to Frank for a Wilson-Pakula Certificate to run on the Independence Party Line.

It is one big joke on the public. They all ought to be ashamed of themselves and the scam they are running on the ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Jun 3, 12 10:32 PM
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So I guess that was it for the Behans. No patronage - no support. Same old story. Let them collect their social security checks and let's move on. My vote is for Randy Altschuler. If we let tim bishop stay in office, there'll be no social security left for us.
By Cosmo123 (7), East Hampton on Jun 4, 12 6:47 AM
.Hey Cosmo.....
Check the Republican plan for Social Security. They want us to have vouchers. Do you really think that multi-millionaire out sourcer Altschuler cares about our Social Security?
Bishop is protecting our social Security. My vote is for Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jun 4, 12 8:53 AM
SS does not need protecting it needs saving. Both SS and to a greater extent medicare need to be reformed in order to preserve them. Many favor push backs on eligibility. In regards to SS we have more baby boomers approaching retirement, interest rates are low and due to advancements in science and technology people are living longer. If we remain on the current path SS benefits will be unsustainable for our children. The common sense reform approach would be to change eligibility on all people ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 4, 12 10:13 AM
You do know that the GOV squandered Greenspan's "revenue enhancements" on defecit spending for the last 25 years, or so right?

Nothing but T-Bills in the Social Security account, and money coming in the front door, goes straight out the back door to pay for a ton of other stuff besides benefits. Gee, let me think. What type of scam is it that is dependent on new cash flow, and enriches it's creator at the expense of investors?

I'll give you a hint: Madoff is in jail...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 4, 12 7:50 PM
Senator Bernie Sanders has a wonderful and simple way to fix SS. Raise the current cap from 110,000 to 250,000.Rich people pay a little more and we all benefit
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 4, 12 11:05 AM
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have you no pride.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 4, 12 11:11 AM
He knows that SS is not only a Ponzi scheme to finance defecit spending, it it very good at disproportionately extracting wealth from lower income citizens.

The income above 110K is NOT taxed for SS purposes...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 4, 12 7:09 PM
Bernie Sanders is the first person elected to the US Senate to identify as a socialist.
I agree that SS is nothing more than a big Ponzi scheme. If I had the choice of continuing to contribute and receiving "potential" benefits or receiving a lump sum for all of my prior contributions and recieve no benefits I would gladly take the later. With that said we need to fix SS. Unfortunately most Americans have no concept of saving and investing. They are out buying things they don't need. SS is ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 5, 12 10:02 AM
I would like your opinion on suing for the ability to opt out of Social Security, and receive a lump sum payment of the benefits already paid so I and others may manage our own retirement. I would use the grounds of not only gross negligent fiscal mismanagement of the funds, due to the fact that the Greenspan "revenue enhancements" have been exhausted on defecit spending for the last 25 years or so, but the fact that there are only T-Bills (I.O.U.'s) in the "Trust" account. It truly is the equivalent ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 6, 12 8:40 PM
Mr. Behan's endorsement of Mr. Bishop is a done deal. Otis Pike would be proud IMO.

OK Tim, time to kick the carpet-bagger back to New Jersey!
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jun 4, 12 1:58 PM
My, how times have changed, NOT!!

Mary Elizabeth Lease, "Wall Street Owns the Country" (Circa 1890)


"This is a nation of inconsistencies. The Puritans fleeing from oppression became oppressors. We fought England for our liberty and put chains on four million blacks. We wiped out slavery and our tariff laws and national banks began a system of white wage slavery worse than the first. Wall Street owns the country. It is no longer a government of the people, by the people, and ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 4, 12 7:26 PM
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Z, you have gone over the top. You might have a point there some where in that rant. If I could lfind 2 cent beef I'd buy it today.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Jun 5, 12 10:48 AM
Nope, not over the top. You just don't get it.

Apparently, you have become too held to a mindset to think outside the box, and draw some historical parallels.

Open your mind...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 6, 12 1:11 PM
You're right Z but the mediocre minds don't see it. We need to end the Fed for starters
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 10, 12 10:41 AM
You can't end the Fed. If we went back to the gold standard, there would not be enough to cover the amount of currency in circulation. Plus, the amount of gold we hold only amounts to about $450 billion dollars. We owe almost 5 trillion in treasury debt to other countries.

The only thing we can do is reign in how the Fed not only handles interest rates, but the expansion of the money supply. A return to Glass-Steagall regulation of private banks would eliminate the current conflicts ...more
Jun 10, 12 12:02 PM appended by Mr. Z
ww: "rein in"
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 10, 12 12:02 PM
whaat historical parallels Name 'em please. I love to read history.
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Jun 13, 12 8:17 PM
I could launch into a page worth of explanation.

However, a great man said it better than I ever could.

Google: George Carlin: The American Dream

The video is hosted by YouTube...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 12 5:19 PM
Headline:

New York to Repeat Chicago’s Parking Meter Catastrophe


INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SALE!!!!!!
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 12 6:44 PM
to Mr. Z:

Please tell me that you didn't auto-censor "niggardly".
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 5, 12 11:29 AM
Once upon a time there was a councilperson (also an attorney, I believe) in the Town of Southampton who went off on someone speaking at a town board meeting for using the word "niggardly". After quite a red-faced rant she was informed that she was uninformed but instead of an Emily Latella moment ("never mind") she continued until her tirade turned into flustered mumbling.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Jun 5, 12 12:54 PM
I'm not sure what's more offensive his censored comment or you spelling it out. Can you imagine the outrage from this group if a right winger made that comment? it seems more acceptable when spoken by the left.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 5, 12 1:52 PM
to razza5350:

I HOPE that you are being facetious.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 5, 12 6:08 PM
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1. If you read the context in which he said it I think we can all infer what he meant.
2. If its not such a bad word then why did he censor it
3. Id pay money to watch you go to the hood and try to rationilize and explain the wiki definition.

Congrats Scott Walker
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 6, 12 5:59 AM
The reason I "censored" it was the risk of displeasing the moderator.

Obviously it's meaning and etymology can be misconstrued by the barely literate.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 6, 12 1:13 PM
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Razza, sometimes when you're wrong it's better to just take a "mea culpa". You and yours, whose ignorance is YOUR problem, not ours.
1. He didn't say it - he posted a quote over 100 years old.
2. He censored it because he was also ignorant of a word that dates back 600 - 700 years.
3. Education will set us free - and it's not the "wiki definition", it's the DEFINITION. Check Oxford, check Merriam-Webster.

Check what you're trying to prove.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Jun 6, 12 1:36 PM
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Pardon me for playing it safe, considering how the "red ink" has been flying lately...
Jun 6, 12 5:36 PM appended by Mr. Z
Look how easily the date of the piece was read over. Can you imagine the furor if I did leave it intact?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 6, 12 5:36 PM
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Wall St does own the Country.They collapse our economy and not one person is arrested. MF Global has 1.6 billion missing and Corzine is walking around free as a bird. Time to end the Fed and kick butt
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 5, 12 1:06 PM
Congratulations Mr. Scott Walker...Historic Evening ! Nuff Said

Austerity is the only path. the private sector is the job engine that will save the country. The Unions Chickens! have come home to roost!
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jun 5, 12 10:05 PM
Your not going to ruin my mood... lol, It was a beautiful night for the republic. , and a long road back to Boston for the union operatives. In the words of Howard Dean, Yyaagaaaaa!
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jun 6, 12 8:55 AM
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You and the weeping Ed Schultz can keep dreaming.





By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jun 6, 12 3:23 PM
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By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 7, 12 6:54 AM
...and every time you name call, I'm, going to post a quote of your post to highlight your incredible hypocrisy.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jun 7, 12 8:04 AM
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John Behans true colors show. I have great respect for what he did for this country but his skills as a policitan are laughable. Most locals know how he turned his back on the party after the repubs failed to nominate his wife (who is a registered dem) for town a run at town council. He is quoted in the EH patch as saying "this is not a grudge against the republican party but I wanted you to know that I do have some ill wishes for them when they just went against the wishes of the guy they chose ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 7, 12 3:39 PM
Have you seen "Ethos"?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 7, 12 7:19 PM
no
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 8, 12 8:23 AM
You should.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 12 12:00 PM
Yeah, pardon me for thinking that the asterisks would invoke proper intellectual curiousity, and give me a better shot at surviving censorship.

Seemed to me that one would be more apt to be more investigative of a greater unknown...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 12 12:55 PM
Senior Obama campaign political strategist David Axelrod played dumb this afternoon when confronted by Breitbart News about President Barack Obama's membership in the socialist New Party in the mid-1990s.
Earlier today, author Stanley Kurtz released proof that Obama had been a member of, and sought the endorsement of, the radical group in 1996--contrary to the Obama campaign's denials.
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jun 7, 12 10:23 PM
Weren't you young and radical once? Perhaps a man of action there, jackson?

Socialist is as maligned a word in this day and age as theory is versus hypothesis. The problem is even if he admitted it, the reactionary way in which people conduct themselves and the "mob mentality" style of less than critical thought can be severely damaging to a person and their reputation. People can be extremely rash, judgemental, and short when it comes down to the formulation of an opinion. When it comes ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 12 12:48 PM
Seems the wheels are coming off the apple cart
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jun 7, 12 10:25 PM
Employment compensation should be between the employer and EACH EMPLOYEE AS AN INDIVIDUAL, the government has no place in this equation.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 8, 12 5:31 AM
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thats a ridiculous analagy. If an employee doesnt like their pay or their benefits they can look for another job. To compare it to slavery and indentured servitude is over the top
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 8, 12 8:28 AM
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"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration."

~ Abraham Lincoln
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 12 11:59 AM
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"The Constitution guarantees protections to property, and we must make that promise good. But it does not give the right of suffrage to any corporation. The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of man's making shall be the servant and not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 12 12:08 PM
"Those who oppose all reform will do well to remember that ruin in its worst form is inevitable if our national life brings us nothing better than swollen fortunes for the few and the triumph in both politics and business of a sordid and selfish materialism."

~ Theodore Roosevelt
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 12 12:22 PM
An employer makes an offer to a prospective employee regarding compensation, the prospective employee makes a FREE CHOICE to either accept the offer or not. The government entering the equation is one of the reasons the economy is in trouble. As to working conditions, I work side by side with my employees doing the same work, sometimes it's hot and dry, sometimes raining and cold but it's honest work. Any time you want to give it a try Phyl, let me know. Seems like a dose of reality would be just ...more
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 8, 12 4:26 PM
Sometimes you do remind me of a petulant child. The world DOES NOT revolve around your particular business model. You are a minority, living in a test tube.

It would be nice if you could grasp the concept that not all employers act as honorably as you may. Not every "businessman" works side by side with their employees. The vast majority tend to not only be absentee, but have NEVER done what alot of their employess do. Government is not the problem, it's the type of leadership which ...more
Jun 8, 12 4:45 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, just for reference, the Federal Reserve IS NOT a Government institution. It is a PRIVATE BANK. FACT.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 12 4:45 PM
Do you work at all?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 9, 12 7:14 AM
They both seem to think there are no labor laws or employee rights in this country. they think workers in this country are actually fresh off the boat from africa and "slaves or indentured slaves" with no choice. employees have minimum wage requirements, workers comp, competitive benefits packages, NY state DBL, unions and tons of other rules and restrictions to protect and benefit workers. In fact all of these labor laws has essentially killed manufacturing in this country. Employers can't stay ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 9, 12 7:38 AM
Maybe those laws are better than squalid conditions killing workers?

$1,000,000 in "compensation" is worth 20 jobs at 50k a year.

We have given the "job creators" EVERY incentive to create them, and they just pocket the money for themselves. Corporate tax holidays, government subsidies, and the like. How does it feel to know that your tax dollars financed compensation through subsidies and tax breaks at most of the Fortune 500 companies?

Wake up...
Jun 9, 12 12:48 PM appended by Mr. Z
Google: Oil boom brings wealth and waste to North Dakota
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 9, 12 12:48 PM
Always playing the victim. Other than the GVT taxing me to death I'm quite happy with my life.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 9, 12 1:26 PM
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By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 9, 12 1:44 PM
Phil, who might you be addressing?
Jun 10, 12 12:32 AM appended by Mr. Z
"Some men, you just can't reach." ~ Cool Hand Luke (1967)
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 10, 12 12:32 AM
Z you need psychiatric help. Get a life and stop spending every moment of your life reading crap about the next financial Armageddon. You have a serious obsessive compulsive disorder. I'm going to go out today and spend some of my hard earned fake money and then come home with my family for a swim in my fake pool. maybe you should stop reading those fake books and researching those fake quotes and do the same. Its a lot more fun.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 10, 12 7:54 AM
"Some men, you just can't reach."

~ Cool Hand Luke (1967)

I rest my case.
Jun 10, 12 8:15 AM appended by Mr. Z
We just HAD a financial Armageddon a few shore years ago. And our economy is propped up by a technically insolvent Fed, who plays an accounting shell game with the Treasury which would land anyone else in jail. Like I said, ignorance must be bliss.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 10, 12 8:15 AM
I'll leave you with this:

Ben Bernanke is particularly interested in the economic and political causes of the Great Depression, on which he has written extensively.

On Milton Friedman's ninetieth birthday, Nov. 8, 2002, he stated:

"Let me end my talk by abusing slightly my status as an official representative of the Federal Reserve. I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You're right, we did it. We're very sorry. But thanks to you, we ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 10, 12 9:09 AM
You just proved my point about not working, if you did and paid taxes, you would realize that we're beint strangled, FICA, Stae income Tax, Federal Income Tax, Worker's Comp, ignorant statement Phyl.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 10, 12 7:24 AM
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2 jobs 7 days a week and the time to blog. Just when I thought I heard it all. Thanks for he laugh Phyliss
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jun 12, 12 11:44 PM
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Or, it's simply possible that Phil knows how to manage his time better than you.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 13, 12 9:22 AM
Or is it possible that Phil Is Z... Could it be Bruce Wyane is Green Lantern
Jun 13, 12 8:17 PM appended by joe hampton
HARD WORK MY MASKED ADVERSARY... JUST HARD WORK!
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jun 13, 12 8:17 PM
Remind us again how you achieved your station in life?

Do yourself a favor and stick with landscaping. You don't even qualify as the "Boy Wonder".
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 13, 12 8:21 PM
You may be on to something there Mr. Joe , They do sound very similar in their bitter rhetoric. They both seem to hate success and harbor feelings of resentment and oppression. Ill buy that for a Euro!
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jun 13, 12 10:36 PM
I think someone of Mr Zs intellect could pull off the charade. It would be difficult to sound so childish when playing the role of the less intelligent individual but it could be done. Interesting.
By 27dan (2854), Southampton on Jun 13, 12 10:52 PM
Sorry dan, not my style. I only have one personality.

However, I do have my muses...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 12 4:40 PM
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By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 13, 12 8:23 AM
My offer still stands Phil, come to work with me for a day or 2 and see how capitalism works. Obviously you need a real life lesson.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 14, 12 7:09 AM
BF they have no idea what we do or the sacrifices we have made. They just want to complain. You made it brother ... don't apologize to this progressive / occupy mentality. Phil speaks of working 2 jobs he does not know what the pressure of a 24 -7 responsibility is. I know what you have achived and how hard it was to get there. now that you made it every one wants a peice of your succes while at the same time you are somehow evil for achiving it. I commend you for what you have acoplished in life. ...more
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jun 14, 12 9:43 AM
Barack Obama’s increasingly desperate struggle to win re-election is causing some of his worst traits to be put on display, including petulance and self-pity.during the 2008 campaign, everything wrong with America could be laid squarely at the feet of President Bush. But now Obama, having presided over what at this stage must qualify as among the most inept presidencies in American history, is complaining because he’s being held accountable.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 14, 12 11:14 AM
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(Obama and the M.S.M view himself as a world-historical figure and Great Man)
Obama appears incapable of processing the truth or coming to grips with the reality of the multiple and multiplying failures of his presidency.Obama has now entered a world all his own. It’s a world where up is down, hot is cold, north is south, a world where Barack Obama is fiscally responsible and blameless.
In its own way, it’s a fascinating psychodrama that’s unfolding
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 14, 12 11:18 AM
Family and friends are cool with it, most are self employed too! Phil oh Phil, you there? Wanna try real work for a couple of days?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 14, 12 4:44 PM
Phyliss you probably work at some pointless government agency where you spend half your time asleep on the job - hence your energy for this nonsense. I am sure the 7 days a week is padding your government pension for which the rest of us are paying.
By local12 (34), Remsenburg on Jun 14, 12 7:08 PM
Hey, local0, they're giving you way too much computer time at stage home
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Jun 14, 12 7:52 PM
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Oh hello fake razza
Jun 15, 12 1:12 AM appended by joe hampton
OMG! I accidentally agreed with progress now...I have to go take a shower
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Jun 15, 12 1:12 AM