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Aug 17, 2012 5:28 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Romney Makes Second Visit To The Hamptons On Friday

Aug 21, 2012 3:41 PM

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was back on the East End on Friday for his second round of fundraisers here this summer. One of them happened to be held at the home of John A. and Amy Griffin on Lily Pond Lane in East Hampton Village, less than a mile from where former President Bill Clinton, who rents a house at Georgica Beach in August, was celebrating his birthday with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and their daughter, Chelsea, this weekend.

According to media reports, Mr. Romney met with supporters at the Sebonack Golf Club in Tuckahoe before visiting the home of Mr. Griffin, a hedge fund manager and the founder of Blue Ridge Capital. Entry to the barbecue at the Griffins’ house reportedly cost $25,000 per person, with the two events raising a total of approximately $7 million.

East Hampton Village Police Lieutenant Anthony Long said Mr. Romney’s visit to East Hampton had been scheduled to last only about an hour and that it went off without a hitch. In addition to village police officers, the presidential candidate and guests were protected by the Secret Service and by state and county police.

In July, a $50,000 per ticket fundraiser was hosted at the Southampton home of David Koch, which spurred a protest outside of the event. A visit to Ronald Perelman’s estate, The Creeks, in East Hampton Village inspired smaller protests, including one from a sailboat on nearby Georgica Pond.

Meanwhile, a fundraiser for President Barack Obama’s 2012 reelection campaign is planned for this Friday, August 24, at the Bridgehampton home of Ellen Chesler and Matthew Mallow. While the president himself is not scheduled to show, according to Southampton Town Democratic Committee Chairman Gordon Herr, Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. will be there.

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Thank God for Romney and Ryan, Bo will go!!!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Aug 17, 12 5:51 PM
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Tom Morello reacts to Pal Ryan stating "Rage Against the Machine" is his fiavorite band:

"Paul Ryan's love of Rage Against the Machine is amusing, because he is the embodiment of the machine that our music has been raging against for two decades. Charles Manson loved the Beatles but didn't understand them. Governor Chris Christie loves Bruce Springsteen but doesn't understand him. And Paul Ryan is clueless about his favorite band, Rage Against the Machine.

Ryan claims that he likes ...more
Aug 18, 12 4:13 AM appended by Mr. Z
Sorry, "Paul Ryan's FAVORITE band". Eyes are still a bit blurry this morning...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 4:13 AM
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sounds like tom morello does have a lot of rage.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 20, 12 8:09 PM
for us BH people will we be able to travel Ocean Road?? Go to the beach?? sec svc will be all over this village for what? Biden. Please give me a break. When he acknowledges the Ocean road crowd hope he remembers this is Long Island not Rhode Island
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Aug 17, 12 5:59 PM
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Yeah, because without Biden coming, the East End wouldn't be overcrowded at all.
By Rudy (1), Sag Harbor on Aug 18, 12 8:22 AM
for us BH people will we be able to travel Ocean Road?? Go to the beach?? sec svc will be all over this village for what? Biden. Please give me a break. When he acknowledges the Ocean road crowd hope he remembers this is Long Island not Rhode Island
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Aug 17, 12 6:00 PM
perhaps we should protest Ocean Road like the protested Dune Road
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Aug 17, 12 6:01 PM
Romney/Ryan the logical choice. How embarrassing for the hosts of Joe "BIte ME" Biden. He will arrive without chains in the 21st century.
By kpjc (161), east quogue on Aug 17, 12 6:02 PM
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Biden needs chains except I don't know if they have the size to fit his lips. Never trust anyone whose eyes are that close together.
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Aug 17, 12 6:05 PM
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The Ryan/Romney ticket are chained to the infamous Koch brothers whose father, Fred Koch, was a founding member of the John Birch Society.

Ryan and Romney have now extended their war against women and minorities to the elderly. Romney, who basically paid not taxes for 10 years and hid millions of dollars off-shore, wants to eliminate social security and medicare and increase interest rates on student loans so he extend tax benefits to the super rich.

Don't allow right wing Romney ...more
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Aug 17, 12 7:50 PM
Typical liberal garbage.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Aug 17, 12 8:43 PM
He has paid taxes every year you liar, He does not have to release anymore than two years.Just like McCain, Bush Sr. or Clinton did You are just trying to paint him as a rich man who is out of touch.He has stated he has paid 13% average for the last 10 years plus donated another 10% to charity that adds up to more in one year than you will pay in taxes your entire life. So get off it.Maybe you should complain a little more about Mr. transparency and his not releasing his collage transcripts, medical ...more
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Aug 17, 12 11:04 PM
Steven the union man is just spouting typical MSNBC Hate successful people talking points. Stevie just talked me into buying some cookies
Dnice & Joe Did you read about
Chris McMurray, the owner of the “Crumb and Get It” bakery in Virginia, he refused to host Vice President Joe Biden yesterday because he disagreed with President Barack Obama’s now infamous “you didn’t build that” comments.
Remarkably, Secret Service agents went to the bakery, told ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Aug 17, 12 11:21 PM
Well, this is not "liberal garbage". These are factual statments of income for fiscal year 2010:

50k, or less: 65.8% of the population split 21.9% of income

50k-100k: 21.4% of the population split 26.8% of income

100k-500k: 12.2% of the population split 35.3% of income

500k and over: .06% of the population split 16% of income


In 2010, the IRS reported that taxpayers making 1M and up totaled just .2 percent of taxpayers, but collected 11.4% of the ...more
Aug 18, 12 4:31 AM appended by Mr. Z
Were in not for the "elite's" conduct, there is a good chance the vast amount they seem to "need" to donate to charity, would be far less if scale of socioeconomic disparity were not so egregiously tipped to one side.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 4:31 AM
I guess "chains" is the new lib buzzword. Its so cute how you all get together and repeat things like adorable little robots.
By jams (129), hampton bays on Aug 18, 12 8:02 PM
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74% of Americans Support Voter ID Laws
One of the left's sillier temper tantrums this week was the fight against Voter ID laws. The law simply requires that a voter present a photo ID at the polling place, as a means to verify they are who they say they are. It is almost impossible to navigate daily life without a photo ID, yet the left argues that this burden is uniquely onerous. In their worldview, a person should be able to walking into the voting place, state a name and then vote for that ...more
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Aug 17, 12 10:52 PM
"It is almost impossible to navigate daily life without a photo ID."

The only time I've needed a photo ID in the last five years was getting on a plane, us my life really that much emptier than everyone else's?

Valid ID should be required to register to vote and for confirmation at the polling place, but provisions should be made for those without photo ID's to participate without undue hardship.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Aug 17, 12 11:43 PM
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I needed one last to buy cough medicine at Stop and shop. Also at the bank to make a withdrawal. Also when I bought my beach sticker. And for the nice man at the liquor store a few Weeks ago when I purchased a bottle of wine. I also needed it when I was registering my son for a sports team. That's just in the last few months and I consider my life pretty boring. I can't get a book from the library without a library card, can't enter my workplace without id, can't access my campus facilities without ...more
By jams (129), hampton bays on Aug 18, 12 8:17 PM
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Your post suggests that just being a minority would preclude someone from managing to obtain a gvt issued photo-ID. Are you really suggesting that people who fall into your category of "minorities" are too stupid or unsuccessful to have obtained an ID? Do you not hear yourself? It is you who is denigrating "minorities". This is the USA. Citizens should be happy that the voting system can evolve to further eliminate voter fraud. If there is nothing to hide, liberals should not fight it.
By Leon789 (50), westhampton on Aug 22, 12 6:04 PM
I don't have a problem with voter ID laws. I just find it interesting that no one cared about voters showing ID's at the polls until AFTER President Obama was elected. Why is it so important now?
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Aug 28, 12 11:16 AM
What evidence, there has been no evidence of fraudllent voting related to impersonation. That much has been admitted by the people in power who are pushing for Voter ID legislation. Sooooo again if it wasnt such a big deal prior to November 2008, why is it such a big deal now?
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Aug 30, 12 11:43 AM
Can you guys take this elsewhere please? Seriously. . . Or at least agree to disagree
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 30, 12 3:30 PM
Undue Hardship? Really 23 $ and a trip to DMV?

Listen to yourself,what kind of provisions would you like... a limousine? maybe free smokes? Voting is a right a privilege and a responsibility, If Florida 2004 taught us anything it is every vote counts and we must make certain voter fraud can not take place. I do not care if we use indelible ink as long as we are certain the person is a registered voter a legal citizen and votes only one time
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Aug 18, 12 12:50 AM
All those city dwellers, rural poor and senior citizens without driver's licenses have done just fine until now - how are you going to deal with their situations? You need to stop being so provincial and stop thinking that the Joe Hampton size fits all. And no, your jackassical comment about a limousine and free cigarettes does not help your argument.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Aug 18, 12 1:56 AM
wow. That was like an olympic tennis match. Well done boys, well done.

And fwiw, Norm Coleman is a jerk and Al Franken rocks!
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 30, 12 12:43 PM
to joe hampton:

No presidential candidate has been a centimillionaire before Romney. The tax avoidance strategies that he employed are revelatory of his character and of his concepts of fairness and loyalty. Other candidates did not have the power that Romney's wealth gives him to utilize ethically questionable tax shelters. What reason could he have for withholding his returns other than that they are an embarrassment and damaging to his candidacy?

You note that the same standard ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Aug 18, 12 1:41 AM
Billionaire Ross Perot.

And what are the questionable tax avoidance strategies? I know the Democrats keep yelling SWISS BANK ACCOUNT and CAYMAN ISLAND but these are not ways to avoid U.S. Taxes. Unlike U.S. banks that are only allowed to hold U.S. Dollars, Swiss and Cayman Island banks allow people to hold stocks, bonds, gold, and currency of other countries. BUT, all income from these bank accounts are reported to the U.S. government and taxes must be paid on all foreign accounts.
Democrats ...more
By Spinny OHO (94), Speonk on Aug 18, 12 1:07 PM
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Shell companies to divert profits tax free are a rather prevalent method...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 1:25 PM
All perfectly legal. Even in the U.S. tax code.
Like I said, " Democrats relay on the ignorance..."
By Spinny OHO (94), Speonk on Aug 20, 12 10:10 AM
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@ phil:

BINGO!!!
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 21, 12 9:13 PM
Well, I think the contents of the Levin-Coburn report, and the inaction upon the contents therein speaks for itself regarding just how loyal this goverment, not just the President is to "We, the people". All of us.

Both of these major ticket clowns wheedle, bow and scrape, and prostrate themselves before major donors who want to buy influence like K street whores. Leaders do not kowtow. Leaders do not harm with their action, or lack thereof. Leaders do not debauch their nation's currency, ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 6:26 AM
Nothing here from demokratz but class envy. That's not going to be able to distract from Barak Hussein Obamas' disasterous record over the past 3 1/2 years. Smoke and mirrors ladies and gentlemen, smoke and mirrors.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Aug 18, 12 6:31 AM
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You really have to be one of the most ignorant people I have ever encountered.

Regan increased debt to GDP. Clinton reduced it. Bush 2.0 planted a fusion bomb, with the help of Alan Greenspan and his five quadrillion dollars of fiat currency, and SEVENTEEN INTEREST RATE INCREASES. Print more money, prices go up. Income for 90% of this country has LOST fiscal worth since Reagan, but the upper echelon have doubled (1%), tripled (.1%), and even QUADRUPLED (.01%) their income. Debauching an ...more
Aug 18, 12 6:48 AM appended by Mr. Z
And listen, if you weren't shot for calling your President a Marxist style dictator, he probably isn't...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 6:48 AM
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Reagan operated in a Cold War environment and his spending bankrupted an evil nation. Then we had about 20+ years of propserity.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Aug 18, 12 11:39 AM
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Actually, we didn't.

Reagan, H.W. Bush, and even Clinton all used Social Security to finance defecit spending. Paul O'Neill came forward during Bush 2.0's terms and let it slip that Social Security was nothing but T-Bills, or bonds, or more quaintly I.O.U.'s. This was after Greenspan/Reagan hiked the SS tax rate from about 9%, to rougly 15% in the late '80's. Remember those taxes are regressive, and are capped at a given income level. Also, if you structure compensation properly with ...more
Aug 18, 12 12:26 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, the USSR was their own undoing. Commuism, and hubris are a deadly Molotov cocktail...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 12:26 PM
And, everyone here realizes that we face at least $65,000,000,000 in total Federal debt obligations, right?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 7:18 AM
The only ID I need is my say so, B.P.

Tryin to stop voting at the polls will be met with resistance. Toure has it correct when he said Romney is responsible for the "Xi@@erizing" of the president on the tv yesterday.Angry and Chicago Style polotics are dog wistle code for somone who is not like us. YES WE CAN!
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Aug 18, 12 8:50 AM
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If ever there was a code word....."not like US..." Unfortunately, your bias is easily revealed.
By Tennyson (77), Quogue on Aug 18, 12 11:51 AM
Dont you think we need a successful business man running this country instead of a career politician who has failed miserably the last 3.5 years. Its funny how this country is trying to shame hard working successful people because of lack of responsibility and hard work on there own behalf
By GoldenBoy (351), EastEnd on Aug 18, 12 12:39 PM
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Remember that "fusion bomb" I mentioned that Bush 2.0/Greenspan planted?

The sky high defecit is the fallout...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 18, 12 12:49 PM
Romney sneaks into the Hamptons and grabs some (more) fundraising cash. I didn't even have a chance to wave to the limo as it sped out of town. Classy.
By lucy2 (63), Southampton, NY on Aug 18, 12 1:14 PM
Very busy man in case you didn't notice.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Aug 18, 12 3:00 PM
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Donate some to Bishop, and he'll personally help you out with whatever you need, wink wink.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Aug 18, 12 10:38 PM
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Smoke and mirrors ladies and gentlemen, smoke and mirrors. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! All this class envy brought to you by the smear machine oe the Demokrat Party. The real issue is Barak Hussein Obama's dismal record. Notice Dear Leader has nothing to offer but negative comments about His opposition, no solutions, just negativity. Pitiful. Bo must go!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Aug 19, 12 8:10 AM
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More like a ****load of bread, and circuses.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 20, 12 12:15 AM
Romeny/Ryan supporter U.S. Rep. Todd Akin clarified the ticket's stand on women rights by claiming that "legitimate rape" rarely resulted in pregnancy.

Todd went on to say that "unnamed bodily responses prevented pregnancy."

By Steven (113), Westhampton on Aug 19, 12 7:42 PM
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Paul Ryan and Todd Akin, friends and co-sponsors of HR3., a bill that severely limits the rights of women.

"Paul Ryan, however, believes that the “forcible rape” language does not actually go far enough to force women to carry their rapist’s baby. Ryan believes that abortion should be illegal in all cases except for “cases in which a doctor deems an abortion necessary to save the mother’s life.” So rape survivors are out of luck."

Thinkprogress.org
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Aug 20, 12 7:04 AM
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As a committed Catholic, and the endorsed candidate of the pro-life group, CatholicVote.org, I would assume that Ryan believes that abortion should be illegal PERIOD, the circumstances of conception being irrelevant.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Aug 20, 12 8:35 AM
Hiding behind christian values to be a bigot. Anti-gay, anti-black, anti-latino, anti-legal immigrant( as per your big mouthpiece Michele Bachman) anti-women's rights( we don't need birth control, let the woman figure it out biologically)anti-indian(it would kill all of you if the Shinnecock's prospered from a new casino) Did I miss something?Woman should have the right to decide for their own bodies. Reproducing has not been a problem for this world.
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 20, 12 2:24 PM
I will never respect bigotry,bias, racism and stereotyping. No matter what you try to hide behind. Your looking to create a white male dominated society that existed in the fifties. The world has moved on and you have stayed with your ignorant ways. The church is living in the 15th century. Woman as second class citizens, ignoring the science of contraception, pedophilism, male dominated society. Not even having the courage to expose the heinous acts that were committed by clergy.
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 22, 12 12:30 PM
Again, I'm not going to give you respect, nor do I desire any respect from the likes of you. I've made it clear without any charades what you are about. You are the anti-american, the ugly american, the un-american. I'm not pulling any triggers, I'm just telling you I see right through your many hatreds. Compassion and tolerence are key words of an american but not tolerence for bigotry, which is what you are about.
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 23, 12 3:23 PM
I'm not the one that hates gays, blacks, latinos, legal immigrants,Indians. Your right, I hate people who are bigots like yourself. Tell me why you are anti-gay? Remeber bigots are the anti-american, un-american, the ugly-american not Capt America.My weapon of choice is right down the middle. I can choose between what is good and what is ugly, without being a Republican or Democrat.
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 24, 12 2:55 PM
The fact that you support the conservative republican platform. This party of hate is your platform. You did notice I said legal immigrants. I can't imagine not being totally embarrassed when the republican party embraces people like Michele Bachman and Sarah Palin. I won't even go further than the total lunacy of Akin. If you associate with haters ,it's hard to tell that you don't believe right down the line with all their policies. Again, peoples positions that are based on bias, bigotry, racism, ...more
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 25, 12 10:24 PM
Your right, I am guilty of my own form of hating. I hate people who through their public positions push their agenda and opinions, which is based on all of the above things I said. Freedom and rights loving republicans want to tell you the right way to live and behave. Adam Smith had it right. You can do whatever you want but as soon as other people are involved or hurt, you need laws to determine how far you can push your lifestyle. In other words if your not hurting anybody you should be able ...more
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 27, 12 9:48 AM
What am I stereotyping? Aren't Bachmann, Palin, Santorum anti-gay? they make up the republican party don't they? bachmann is anti-legal immigrant? So where do you differ from the platform of the republican party? or do you endorse everything they stand for? again,not all republicans are racists, but if you are a racist you are republican, do you agree or disagree with that statement. I personally don't want to stand with racists in my party. How do you do it?
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 28, 12 10:58 PM
Why would any intelligent gay be a member of the republican party when the whole conservative platform is that they are the ruination of this country and destroying the moral compass. Ask Phil Keith in his column for the Southampton Press. He's your garden variety republican bigot who said that just as I said it. Your point is you can still be a republican even if you disagree with the bigoted members of your party. Believe it or not, I was a card carrying member of the Republican party for thirty ...more
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 29, 12 7:28 PM
I thought for a minute you were actually becoming a person you could have a debate with. Again you don't get it. I hate people not because they have a different opinion than me. I hate them because they base their opinion on sterotypical hate. That doesn't make me a sterotypical. Using religion to hate people is not the religion I was brought up on. I was taught that our God was a loving God and didn't matter that people who loved the same sex should be discriminated or cursed upon. I'm not sure ...more
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Aug 30, 12 6:02 PM
Akins exact words were, "If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down." What an ignorant, boneheaded statement.

By goldenrod (505), southampton on Aug 20, 12 5:09 PM
That's putting it lightly. This guy needs to have his mouth taped shut.
By Brian Bailey (36), Southampton on Aug 20, 12 5:29 PM
Akins policies on a woman's right to determine her own health needs are exactly the same as Paul Ryan's.

HR 3, a bill that Paul Ryan and his good friend and colleague Todd Atkins co-spsonsored, would make it criminal for a woman to terminate her pregnancy even if she was raped or a victim of incest.

Tell Ryan, Atkins, and Romney that New Yorkers believe rapists, not innocent women, are the ones that belong in jail..



By Steven (113), Westhampton on Aug 21, 12 3:40 AM
Again flat out lies and distortion of the truth from the left propaganda machine. Akin and Ryan are black and white. Please show me where Ryan has stated that Women who are raped can't become pregnant. Until you can show me something different I'll stick with the facts which is Ryan supports protecting the life of an un born innocent from murder.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 21, 12 8:14 AM
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Phil suppoorts partial birth, third trimester abortions of viable fetuses.

An abortion at any time, up to the day before birth is acceptable to him.

I'd say that's pretty extreme.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Aug 28, 12 2:02 PM
Phil not everyone shares your view of murdering the un born innocent. Especially using taxpayer dollars to fund it. Why is it the left doesnt have a problem with killing an unborn baby but does have an issue with the death penalty for mass murderers. Preverse logic
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 21, 12 10:28 PM
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By VOS (1241), WHB on Aug 21, 12 10:43 PM
In other words the repubs don't want tax payer dollars to fund abortions. If you want an abortion you need to go to a clinic and pony up
your own money. The war against women. What a joke. As I've been stating numerous times the left will be running a campaign of hate and fear. They certainly can't run on their record, accomplishments, and plans moving forward. "hope and change" HAH!
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 22, 12 6:34 AM
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Abortions are legal in almost EVERY state. Get with the program. Maybe we all dont share your beliefs. I for one do NOT support TAX PAYER supported abortions and should not be forced by people like you to condone murder. If a woman choses to terminate her pregnancy let it be on her dime not mine. By the way who are you to determine when a life begins?
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 22, 12 9:04 AM
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Sorry, Cap, Mitch McConnell laid it all out when hesaid “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term President.” He didn't say he wanted to put people to work, bring home the troops, reduce the deficit, save Social Security or cure cancer. He chose to ignore his obligation to serve the people of the United States in favor of serving his party.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Aug 30, 12 2:03 PM
The first of the "unalienable rights" cited in the Declaration of Independence is "Life" - one could make the case that what you call Obamacare is a vital step towards guaranteeing the best chance at life for everyone. We do not have government by referendum even if your opinion is that such a referendum would continue to deny medical care to tens of millions of Americans. So no, ACA is certainly NOT contrary to the sworn obligation of the president and those of both parties who have supported ...more
Aug 30, 12 4:42 PM appended by VOS
Your conservative anti-government statement disregards the fact that McConnell and his followers have not simply ignored their Constitutional obligations, they have defied them.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Aug 30, 12 4:42 PM
The REAL war on women has been perpetrated by the Left wingers and A lot of Demokratz. How many potential women have been MURDERED in the womb in the name of "women's" health??!! Abortion is murder.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Aug 22, 12 7:01 AM
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The doctor confirmed I was pregnant by finding a heartbeat other than my own. Some women can dismiss that as a bunch of cells. I cannot. That's my right. I felt the life of another inside of me and I reject your description.
By jams (129), hampton bays on Aug 22, 12 10:27 AM
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Jams, You made a choice. All women should have the same right.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Aug 24, 12 11:02 AM
Really? If your pre-teen got pregnant by a drug-dealing loser, you wouldn't want her to have the right to an abortion? That is really, really sad.
By CollegeEducated (1), Hampton Bays on Aug 28, 12 11:26 AM
College you are missing the point. Abortion is legal in virtually every state. The main arguement is using tax payer dollars to fund it.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 29, 12 2:31 PM
Do tax payer dollars fund abortion?
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Aug 30, 12 11:40 AM
Phyliss, that you are indescribably offensive and misinformed is tragic for you but great news for Romney/Ryan. The more you rant and offend, the clearer I hope it is to normal people just how wacky and dangerous the left has become in this country. It seriously scares me that there are people like you out there who are not committed (or are you posting from the insane asylum??). Women who have a pregnancy and want to terminate it, have a choice in this country. The issue is why should taxpayers ...more
By Leon789 (50), westhampton on Aug 22, 12 6:31 PM
Well, it seems this thread has degenerated...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 22, 12 7:44 PM
You guys are too much.

Mehinks I'll just stay over at MajorGeeks dispensing help and advice. You all fight pretty now, OK?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 22, 12 8:18 PM
Dee Snider rips Paul Ryan's use of Twisted Sister hit 'We're Not Gonna Take It'
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 22, 12 10:15 PM
OK Phyl, you are now the 27 East champion of "choice." Pro killer of the unborn. Advocate for the death of millions of innocents each year. Champion for the abortionists. Super star of slaughter! Happy now?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Aug 23, 12 7:10 AM
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By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Aug 24, 12 10:56 AM
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By Leon789 (50), westhampton on Aug 24, 12 8:17 PM
This was great. Y'all should read the whole piece:

"By making debt the centerpiece of his campaign, Romney was making a calculated bluff of historic dimensions – placing a massive all-in bet on the rank incompetence of the American press corps. The result has been a brilliant comedy: A man makes a $250 million fortune loading up companies with debt and then extracting million-dollar fees from those same companies, in exchange for the generous service of telling them who needs to ...more
Aug 29, 12 6:19 PM appended by Mr. Z
The unlikeliness of Romney's gambit isn't simply a reflection of his own artlessly unapologetic mindset – it stands as an emblem for the resiliency of the entire sociopathic Wall Street set he represents. Four years ago, the Mitt Romneys of the world nearly destroyed the global economy with their greed, shortsightedness and – most notably – wildly irresponsible use of debt in pursuit of personal profit. The sight was so disgusting that people everywhere were ready to drop an H-bomb on Lower Manhattan and bayonet the survivors. But today that same insane greed ethos, that same belief in the lunatic pursuit of instant borrowed millions – it's dusted itself off, it's had a shave and a shoeshine, and it's back out there running for president.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 29, 12 6:19 PM
A prime example of how Romney "made" his money:

Take a typical Bain transaction involving an Indiana-based company called American Pad and Paper. Bain bought Ampad in 1992 for just $5 million, financing the rest of the deal with borrowed cash. Within three years, Ampad was paying $60 million in annual debt payments, plus an additional $7 million in management fees. A year later, Bain led Ampad to go public, cashed out about $50 million in stock for itself and its investors, charged the ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 29, 12 7:09 PM
Solyndra
$$$$$millions of $$ of taxpayers money and jobs lost through mismanagement. Great RNC ongoing. Ann Romney will give Michelle Obama a run for her money.
By Leon789 (50), westhampton on Aug 29, 12 7:38 PM
“When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it”

~ Frederic Bastiat, "The Law" (1850)
Aug 29, 12 8:53 PM appended by Mr. Z
Building a fortune based on borrowed fiat currency, then pawning debt off on everyone but yourself is NOT success (Romney). So much money has been printed in the last twelve years, the dollar has LOST so much value it costs $1.33 cents, to buy what cost ONE DOLLAR in 2000.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 29, 12 8:53 PM
The employees of Ampad had four more years of work thanks to Bain, the poorly performing company would have gone under if not for the infusion of capital provided by Bain. Sorry to see that yo're still anti-capitalist ZZZZZ.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Aug 30, 12 7:10 AM
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No. I am not anticapitalist.

What you are consistently too obtuse to grasp is that capitalism is not the production of debt. The proper, and prudent course would have been to let the company fail. Instead you now have a workforce that is four years older thanks to a fiat currency injection of debt. What Bain did is not creative destruction, or fair market competition. It is exploitation of the market via a "new loan", backed by fake capital printed out of thin air. Thanks to that ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 30, 12 11:01 AM
No. I am not anticapitalist.

What you are consistently too obtuse to grasp is that capitalism is not the production of debt. The proper, and prudent course would have been to let the company fail. Instead you now have a workforce that is four years older thanks to a fiat currency injection of debt. What Bain did is not creative destruction, or fair market competition. It is exploitation of the market via a "new loan", backed by fake capital printed out of thin air. Thanks to that ...more
Aug 30, 12 11:07 AM appended by Mr. Z
Read this one. Dang smartphone...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 30, 12 11:07 AM
The proper and prudent thing to do is to let the companies fail?? Thats a broad statement without merit. In the cases of GM I agree but WITHOUT placing blame on greedy bankers and ineffective GVT regulations where do you think the global economy would be if it had followed that advice.
An oligarchy is a GVT where a select few controls everything with unmitigated power. In this country everyone has an opportunity to make something of themselves. Granted its more difficult for some than others ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 30, 12 3:04 PM
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It seems we can add reading comprehension to your list of deficiencies. Remember, you asked for this.

A Plutocratic Oligarchy is when a small percentage of the population controls the government with it's wealth, and influence. In case you missed it, corporate fascism is alive and well in the 21st century. Lobbyists, SuperPACs, millions spent on "creative" lawyers who can argue to the point of absurdity AND beat the system, plus patronage jobs to those who go through the revolving door ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 30, 12 8:58 PM
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Touch a nerve Z? egocentrism-is characterized by preoccupation with ones own internal world. Egocentrics regards themselves and their own opinions or interests as being the most important or valid. Egocentic people are unable to fully understand or to cope with other peoples opinion and the fact that reality can be different from what they are ready to accept. Recognizing that you have a problem is the first step to recovery.
For the Psych analyisis that will be 100 bucks. You can mail that ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Aug 31, 12 7:18 AM
What I stated is not solely my opinion. There are a great many who feel as I do, and see things in a similar light. I do tend to be passionate at times, but its rarely, if ever, been considered a character flaw.

Also you can feel free to borrow my copy of the " modern textbook of psychology" anytime free of charge.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 31, 12 10:39 AM
Perhaps the press should just create a page for political commentary...I've seen it all, on this article...Abortion rights, voter ID, unemployment...its going to be an interesting election year.
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Aug 30, 12 11:46 AM
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By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on Aug 30, 12 3:56 PM
People do not hate the fact that we have an African-American President, they hate that we have an ineffective and unqualified President. Color does not come into it. It is really low that some Democrats insist on playing the race card to try to justify why Reps do not want to see Obama continue as President. Bush did not start a war with Iran. The strength of the USA is what helps to keep the World on an even keel. Think back to the Cold War and the Arms Race. Remembering how Reagan broke the ...more
By Leon789 (50), westhampton on Aug 30, 12 7:04 PM
By March 1992 — barely nine months after the initial restructuring — Romney was hitting up the government and Bain's other creditors for a bailout, asking that the firm be allowed to repay its debts at just 35 cents on the dollar.

Why didn't Bain's creditors just push the firm into bankruptcy and divvy up its assets? After all, the firm was flush with borrowed cash following the 1991 restructuring.

"The documents reveal that Romney had perverse leverage: The terms ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 1, 12 7:02 PM