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Jan 6, 2016 4:32 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin To Vote In Favor Of Obamacare Repeal Bill

Jan 6, 2016 4:35 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin announced Wednesday that he would vote in favor of a bill that calls for the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, more commonly known as Obamacare.

The Restoring Americans’ Healthcare Freedom Reconciliation Act of 2015 has already passed the Senate and was expected to pass the House of Representatives, making it the first Obamacare repeal bill to make it to President Barack Obama’s desk, according to a press release from Mr. Zeldin’s office.

The act repeals major provisions of Obamacare, such as mandates and taxes, and provides a two-year time period to ensure that Americans “still have healthcare coverage during the transition to a better plan,” the release said. The act would also reduce the nation’s deficit by $516 billion from 2016-2025, according to estimates from the Congressional Budget Office.

“Obamacare has been nothing short of a disaster for hardworking families and our economy,” Mr. Zeldin said in the release. “The flaws in this healthcare system have resulted in higher premiums, higher deductibles, lost doctors, canceled policies and so much more.

“Over recent years, it has become increasingly clear to both Democrats and Republicans that this law is deeply flawed,” the representative continued. “It is evident that, at this point in time, that we must fully repeal and replace Obamacare with solutions that cost less and guarantee more freedom, certainty and security.”

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Figures. Until Mr. Lee has a viable proposal to replace a system that favors the insurance-health complex, he needs not to vote to repeal what actually is a Republican health care plan having originally come from the Heritage Foundation and put into effect in Massachusetts under Mr. Mitt.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 6, 16 6:16 PM
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Obamacare is actually a wealth transfer device from the rich and from the healthy. Regardless if you like it or not you should be just be honest and call it what it is, Just another hidden tax .
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 7, 16 1:15 PM
Wait and see, his next vote will be against funding Planned Parenthood. So predictable, not a trace of independent thinking in these automatons.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 6, 16 7:08 PM
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Who does the man represent?
By metsfan2 (159), southampton on Jan 6, 16 9:20 PM
Koch Industries, health professionals, the oil & gas industry, real estate, securities & investment.
By Pacman (270), East Quogue on Jan 7, 16 10:06 AM
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Really ? I am none of those things. How about hard working self employed americans, You know the people who create jobs.
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 7, 16 1:18 PM
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Exactly, he doesn't actually represent you.
By Pacman (270), East Quogue on Jan 7, 16 3:51 PM
He represents me.


By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 7, 16 7:03 PM
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One group Lee doesn't represent: the freeloaders, illegals, malcontents and professional victims who think they deserve everything for nothing. I'm working hard to provide coverage for my kids and my family. Sorry if I didn't sign on to pay for free food, heating oil and health care for those who don't even make an attempt to better their plight. Thank you, Lee, for representing me: an American working man.
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Jan 6, 16 10:18 PM
Note: It's not that simple.

Facts:

The cost of pretty much everything you can name has increased while well over 2/3 of Americans have seen the value of their wages remain stagnant, or decrease in value. The most recent data I can dig up from Social Security tax records from 2011 shows that those two thirds of Americans grossed less than $42K for that fiscal year. The median household income is about $50K. The median wage in this country sits at about $26K. Things have not ...more
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 9, 16 7:59 PM
Looks like 13 people disagree.

What do we want ? .... FREE S*

Whos gonna give it to us ?

BERNIE SANDERS ! ! !
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 17, 16 6:04 PM
The Congressman does NOT have the interests of the working man in mind. He is a tool for big corporations who dont give a flying you-know-what about our well-being.
I have NEVER taken anything for nothing. I have NEVER looked for anything for nothing. But I worked for corporate America long enough to know what they are interested in. They would rob us blind if they could and then blame us for being blind and deny us a seeing eye dog.
But they spend a lot of money trying to make themselves ...more
By baywoman (165), southampton on Jan 6, 16 11:26 PM
LOLlllllllll
Jan 7, 16 11:05 AM appended by They call me
P S PhilMotyka has been banned from this site
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 7, 16 11:05 AM
Imagine that rotten Obamacare, all those people with preexisting conditions getting insurance, where do they get off.All those kids sponging off their parents till their twenty six. Who would want to make sure our kids are covered till they got going in the world. The poor doctor, driving in his mercedes-benz, doing useless tests on me every well visit, just to squeeze a couple of hundred bucks more out of the system.Why do doctors charge more for cash? What business charges more for cash? Only ...more
By Mets fan (1486), Southampton on Jan 7, 16 9:09 AM
In New York they had to accept pre-existing conditions for years.

Health Insurance is just that. Insurance. If your driving record is full of accidents and DWI's, they won't insure you. You aren't a good risk...

By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 7, 16 7:07 PM
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Another reply from the christian valued right. You've got an illness, no insurance just go bankrupt.
By Mets fan (1486), Southampton on Jan 9, 16 9:47 AM
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Apples and oranges. Nobody has a right to own/drive a car. Everyone has a right to health care.
Not true about pre-existing conditions in NYS at least during the late '90's, so your assertion is irrelevant.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 11, 16 9:29 PM
... Zeldone cares only about advancing his political career. Nothing more.
By William Rodney (558), southampton on Jan 7, 16 10:13 AM
Have you ever sat down and had a conversation with Lee?

Yeah. I didn't think so. If you had, you would know what matters to him. Americans.

And it's ZELDIN... Just saying.
By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 7, 16 7:09 PM
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Seven years and still waiting for the republican alternative.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 7, 16 10:18 AM
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Dems regret not running Biden for president 'every day' . . .
Jan 7, 16 11:03 AM appended by They call me
Burlington Free Press, - Donald Trumps campaign has had so many ticket reqests for Thursday evenings rally in Burlington, Vermont that police have expressed concerns and asked that they stop since it is approching the point of becoming a safety hazard. “We are committed to accommodating the campaign because political speech is the very essence of the First Amendment.”......................................................... ROCK STAR: 20,000 TICKETS ISSUED FOR TRUMP EVENT AT 1,400-SEAT VENUE…
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 7, 16 11:03 AM
wow, isn't that a blue state and bernie sanders home town.

amazing
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 7, 16 1:00 PM
The Democratic party didn't say they regret running Biden. Biden said he regrets not running. Big difference.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 9, 16 12:13 PM
Thanks for standing up for what's right Lee! Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster that hurts small business with onerous mandates. Did anyone here lose their HEALTH REPUBLIC coverage December first? Another OBAMACARE disaster. A mom and pop business is no longer considered a business by the Regime when it comes to purchasing health insurance, forced onto the individual marketplace where options are limited. Costs are up, deductibles are up, providers are having a difficult time getting paid by insurers ...more
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 7, 16 11:42 AM
You've got it wrong-- the insurance business has no place in health care. The Affordable Health Care Act is a boon to the medical/insurance complex. It was designed by the conservative Heritage Foundation, and first put into play by Mitt Romney when governor of Massachusetts. Notice that the Republicans are hell bent on repeal, but they have nothing to offer in its place. We're the only first world country with a for profit system, but we'll eventually get to Single Payer, just a question ...more
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 7, 16 12:22 PM
Its you that has it wrong madam, A recent Gallup survey shows a staggering 75 percent of Americans say that “corruption is widespread throughout the government.” The number saying the government is corrupt is up dramatically, almost 10 points, since Barack Obama took office.

WE DO NOT NEED A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM RUN LIKE THE POST OFFICE !

UNDER single payer research will grind to a halt and you will be waiting 8 months for a simple test , NO THANK YOU !
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 7, 16 12:49 PM
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"We're the only first world country with a for profit system" Bingo. Can anyone say with a straight face that our for-profit health insurance companies add any value to the system? Well, probably, there are some good liars and shills out there in US politics.

I'll vote for Bernie in the primary but I'm afraid he may be too much of a gentleman and too honest to get elected in the current environment. That and the corporate media gives his positions and proposals little time as it remains ...more
By KashMinbar (6), Tucson on Jan 7, 16 1:00 PM
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i want the old system back , the health insurance in my home (family of 6 has gone up $ 682 a month since obama care !

and i could NOT keep my doctor.

it has been horrible for us .
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 7, 16 1:03 PM
Erin, the best part is, we funded Health Republic with $180,000,000 of our money. The Obamacare lovers all say "But congress wouldn't GIVE them more, that's why they collapsed"...

I wish all start up businesses had unlimited free money to experiment with being in business.

My health insurance has doubled. Affordable, my ass.
By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 7, 16 7:15 PM
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Via the Post Master General:

"What if your credit card company told you: “You will charge a million dollars on your credit card during your life; please enclose the million dollars in your next bill payment. It’s the responsible thing to do.” Doesn’t seem quite right, does it?

Well, that’s what the U.S. Postal Service’s requirement to prefund its long-term pension and healthcare liabilities is like. The Postal Service is required to pay the full ...more
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 10, 16 9:42 PM
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Its better than nothing, which is what we had before, shame on you for trying to stop it with no better plan
By yassar arafar (33), sag harbor on Jan 7, 16 1:22 PM
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By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 7, 16 1:35 PM
I was perfectly happy with my catastrophic plan combined with a HSA (health savings account), that plan was also eliminated by the implementation of Obamacare. He is guttersnipe and a liar, "If you like your plan you can keep your plan" WRONG I have had 3 plans eliminated, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." WRONG , good luck finding a plan on the individual marketplace with doctors in our area!! Single payer komrade? Really??? Speak to someone who lives in Great Britain and get ...more
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 7, 16 1:32 PM
You've obviously bought the insurance industry propaganda about the "waits". See what Brit wouldn't fight to keep their health care system. THEY LOVE IT. What we have is a DISEASE MANAGEMENT system---lotsa' money in illness, and the insurance companies call the shots by dictating to our physicians what he or she can or cannot do for us, down to and including how much time comprises a visit. And then there's the obscene US pharmaceutical industry ripping us off in the extreme, spending big bucks ...more
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 7, 16 6:30 PM
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And, without profits, why would someone go to medical school. yes, yes, the Hippocratic oath. Yes, wanting to help people in need. But, how do they pay their bills?

The problem with Liberals is, they don't understand that someone has to make the money... Want free college? I had free college... Tell Bernie that, if you want free college, its easy. It's called the GI Bill and its open to anyone willing to serve the Nation in one of the five Armed Forces. They get free medical, too. And ...more
By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 7, 16 7:24 PM
June bug you are wrong on so many accounts. The ACA (Obamacare) DIRECTLY caused many people to lose their coverage and forced them to get ACA compliant plans. When the ACA was designed the insurance companies had to comply with coverage mandates. If the coverage did not meet the mandates the plans had to be discontinued thus "if you like your plan you can keep it" became the biggest lie of the year.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 8, 16 12:49 PM
So which is it, Draggerman? First you complain about it being unaffordable. Now you defend the profits being made.
News flash: they are not accruing to doctors. Ask any doctor--the days of them becoming rich are pretty much over, and they are now cogs in the wheels of the insurance companies. It's the insurance companies, the hospital corporations, and the pharmaceutical companies that have benefitted most from the ACA. They wrote the bill, got it passed by paying off legislators, and ...more
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 9, 16 12:56 PM
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But, I had Insurance. And, it was half of what I pay now that the ACA has been put in place.

You've just said it yourself. The American people were handed a crappy bill, thanks to Barry, Harry & Nancy. Thank god for Lee Zeldin voting to get it repealed.

The ACA actually TAXES American Citizens for being unable to afford health insurance. How would our forefathers, the great men who wrote our Constitution, react to that news? "Taxation without representation!" I believe they ...more
By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 10, 16 6:50 AM
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Repealed to what??? That's what the inmates in the insane asylum (voting to repeal over and over and getting the same result) can't seem to answer.
The uninsured rate has been reduced by nearly half under the ACA. You don't think you weren't paying for the care of the uninsured prior to passage of the ACA? And your complaints re: your premiums should be directed to the gougers--the insurance companies, or the pharmaceutical companies who charge $1000 per hepatitis pill instead of the $4 ...more
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 10, 16 5:52 PM
June bug you are correct in that the ACA is a giant money grab but do you realize that not one republican voted for it? This bill is 100% owned by the democrats.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 10, 16 8:24 PM
What dope would like/want a plan with sub-standard coverage?
Or even deal with a company that refused to meet mandates?
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 11, 16 9:45 PM
Why on earth would you post an untruth, and one that is easily checked? The Senate vote was 58 Democrats and 39 Republicans.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 11, 16 9:50 PM
You are 100% incorrect. Not 1 republican in the senate voted for the ACA. I suggest you look it up.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 12, 16 12:56 AM
Actually, I believe Razza is correct on this one but I'm not so sure it's something the Republicans should be proud of. The Republicans made a political decision to not participate in the process creating the ACA and therefore the Democrats were forced to prostitute themselves to Joe Lieberman, the senator to the insurance companies. Had the Republicans actually made an effort to be part of the process we might have gotten a much better bill. Still, the ACA is better than any of the Republican alternatives ...more
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 16 2:11 AM
What process?? "We need to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it" Nancy pelosi. Remember way back when when Obama promised transparency. The ACA was written behind closed doors by a bunch of lawyers and lobbyists and then the democrats were forced to prostitute themselves to the American people to sell it.
Note: as to your vague poll (Libs love polls. They cite them as fact) I challenge you to go out on the street and talking to any self employed middle class working person and conduct ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 12, 16 6:38 AM
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The republicans made a decision to march lockstep in opposing health care reform. Had they made any reasonable effort whatsoever to reach across the isle they could have had input which would have been welcomed by many of the more conservative on the democratic side of the isle. So yes, in the end, the process was hijacked by the insurance companies and big pharma in order to appease Sen Lieberman, the senator to the insurance companies and big pharma, because they needed his vote.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 16 7:12 AM
No, Razza is not correct. Twice. Google it. As I posted, 39 Republicans voted for the ACA along with 58 Democrats.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 13, 16 8:14 PM
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BARAK HUSSEIN IS A LIAR-- when He was selling HIS plan He said "If you like your plan , you can keep your plan". That turned out to be a bald faced lie. Indefensible , causing self employed folks who employ a lot of other folks to have to purchase more expensive plans. Plans with PEDIATRIC COVERAGE for people with no kids!! Denying membership in business alliances for businesses with less than 2 employees, not counting the owners! That forces us onto the individual marketplace, higher costs and ...more
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 13, 16 9:44 PM
June Google which republican voted for the ACA and tell me what you find. Z I guess I give you more credit than you deserve. It's common knowledge that no Republican senator voted for the bill and when Scott Walker got elected the Dems were forced to use the nuclear option to ram it down our throats.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 14, 16 1:31 AM
June, please provide me with the names of 3 Republican senators who voted for the ACA.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 14, 16 8:27 AM
I just saw Trumps new add "Hillary and her friends!" were he effectively connects Hillary with Monica, Weiner, and Cosby . The video shows that Shillary's nothing more than a scheming weasel.

Trump has not even started to discuss why she did not pick up the 3am phone call,
the Clinton foundation corruption or the classified emails yet... She's Done
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 7, 16 3:38 PM
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Done? Where are you going to hide when she moves (back) into the White House?
Trump and Cruz are the answer to all her aspirational dreams!
By zaz (197), East Hampton on Jan 7, 16 7:15 PM
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I can only tell you what I see. First, the Republican ruling class has promised over an over again, now for 6 months, that Trumps vote would evaporate the closer we got to actual voting. That hasn’t happened.

Trumps vote expanded dramatically in December after all the debates, and San Bernardino. Here, we have in Ipsos/Reuters the first true poll in 2016 because all the data was collected in 2016, not December of 2015, and again we see a rise for Trump from 39 to 41. For Trump this ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 8, 16 1:51 AM
WRONG June! HIs plan mandated the elimination of catastrophic plans and the change of what constitutes a business in regards to purchasing health insurance, not the insurance industry!! It's impossible to have an intelligent conversation with a socialist such as yourself!
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 7, 16 7:22 PM
Zeldin his wasting time. Obama will veto any measure that crosses his desk. The best chance the GOP has of repealing this disaster is to get someone in the white house. The ACA does nothing to help the working class of America. Its a giant money grab and the only class it benefits is the poor through subsidies. I challenge any liberal posting here to talk to working class people who are self employed or individuals not eligible for the subsides and ask their opinion. You will hear things like watered ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 8, 16 12:39 PM
Seven years and still waiting for the Republican alternative.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 8, 16 4:31 PM
The right, whiny little
















The right, whiny little ###, no solutions ever. No attempts, just eating up lobbyists money. Just sit back, close your eyes, put on your coon-skin hat and put on Howdy Doody.






By Mets fan (1486), Southampton on Jan 9, 16 9:54 AM
Wellll Howdy Doody Bufflo Bob,

The left, Redistribute our hard earned money through more taxes.
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 9, 16 10:57 AM
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One thing is for sure not only is the ACA NOT the solution but it's worse and far more expensive than what we had before.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 9, 16 12:14 PM

Please defend why we should have a for-profit disease care system.
Then, please outline your plan including its affordability.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 9, 16 1:03 PM
Don't be naive. You can believe in a free market system or you can believe that the GVT will provide for you through taxes. Either way it's going to cost you. Question is who can provide greater quality, management, advancements, delivery and choice. A Gvt run plan or the free market?
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 9, 16 2:38 PM
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respectfully Razza,

Don't be naive... for these people It comes down to WHO is going to shoulder that cost. They want something for nothing and for the business owners to provide them subsidies
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 9, 16 5:06 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Mets fan (1486), Southampton on Jan 9, 16 5:31 PM
The ACA.

Written by the lobbyists for the profit of the industry, and given a moniker to blame the black guy for the purposes of distracting sheep.

Apparently, it's working...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 9, 16 7:32 PM
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Its working because this "recovery" you claim happened, never did.

There are more Americans living below the poverty line than when he took office. More recipients of Food Stamps. He has doubled the national debt.

Workforce participation at a 30-year low. While Obama protects illegal aliens, he imports Muslim refugees to take jobs.

It's time for change - it's time for Trump
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 10, 16 11:35 AM
Government, or "free market"; it doesn't matter. There's greedy people on both sides. When it comes down to it, it's the people, not the entity. Both aforementioned entities are just as corrupt, and guilty of incompetence. Government is not the problem, people are the problem.

The President has not doubled the national debt. That wave of debt is the mire of a failed Bush presidency. Obama did not cause the financial meltdown. Obama did not put two wars on a credit card. Obama did ...more
Jan 10, 16 9:35 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, if that first sentence was meant for me, when have I ever stated there was a recovery? "Never" is the answer. There has been a painted backdrop meant to look like one, but drop the baton and all you see is a brick wall. The only "recovery" which has occurred would be less than the top 5% of the population reaping 95% of the newly minted wealth post bailout. Everyone else can apparently go **** in a hat.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 10, 16 9:35 PM
YES I would have preferred no bail out. There is no such thing as to big to fail. That is just the start of more corruption
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 10, 16 10:54 PM
Z you can blame lobbyists but the ACA is 100% owned by the democrats. I have been posting from day 1 on this disaster and unfortunately have proven to be correct. It's nothing but a massive money grab and once again burdens the middle class. i also know how much you love Obama but under his leadership the middle class has almost become non existent. Please stop blaming Bush for everything. obama is on his 2nd term now. He needs to be held accountable.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 10, 16 11:19 PM
Doesn't matter who it "belongs to". It's about who got paid, and it happens to be this side of the fence in this case. Nothing is perfect, and the number of uninsured has plummeted. However, what the country is now seeing is the bigger picture on how ridiculously expensive health care has become, and how out of control the medical insurance industry truly is.

We could go on and on about how the recent Republican majority is an unmitigated disaster of almost comedic proportions, but time ...more
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 11, 16 7:26 AM
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Z, the ACA's only achievement- reducing the rank of the uninsured came exclusively from its expansion of Medicaid once again on the backs of the middle class. Just another example of how Obamas policies hurt the middle class.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 11, 16 9:26 AM
The policies of the last forty years have wrecked the middle class. The need or even the apparent need for the expansion of Medicaid is a direct result of those policies.

By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 11, 16 8:31 PM
And Hussein's policies have forced how many more Americans onto Foodstamps since His ascension to power?
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 11, 16 8:53 PM
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Sorry Charlie, wrong answer. The current president has not "forced" people onto the SNAP program. At all. Nuclear explosions have fallout, and so do economic meltdowns on incredibly massive scales. You really need to stop reading Breitbart. Do you honestly have any idea of the scale and magnitude of not just the economic effects of the meltdown, but the psychological components of the market that work in tandem with them?

Ahhh, the human need to blame someone through ignornace...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 13, 16 4:58 AM
Food for thought (pun intended):

Six Myths About Food Stamps
October 8, 2013
by Dave Johnson


In the middle of the worst economy and job situation in decades Republicans in the House voted to cut $40 billion from food stamps. This will kick 3.8 million people out of the program by 2014, then 3 million more each year after.

Republicans in Congress have blocked every effort to help the economy. They block bills to create jobs by fixing our crumbling infrastructure ...more
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 13, 16 5:05 AM
WHAT DO JEFF EPSTEIN AND JAY SEARS HAVE IN COMMON ?

HIGH HAT KNOWS

DON'T YOU HIGH HAT...

By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 8, 16 4:16 PM
TEXAS GOVERNOR INTRODUCES GROUNDBREAKING PLAN TO OVERRIDE OBAMA’S TYRANNY
Outspoken governor calls for Constitutional Convention to restore Rule of Law, take back states' rights
Jan 8, 16 4:17 PM appended by 27dan
Texas Governor Greg Abbott made good on his promise to challenge President Obama’s gun control initiatives Friday, calling for a Constitutional Convention of US states to create several new amendments aimed at reasserting states’ rights. Among nine proposed amendments, “The Texas Plan” aims to prohibit Congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one state. Another amendment requires Congress to balance its budget, and another allows a two-thirds majority of states to override a US Supreme Court decision.
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 8, 16 4:17 PM
WHO ? Is this Jeff Epstein I keep hering about ?

and what difference dose it make ?

Jan 8, 16 5:04 PM appended by They call me
Email Suggests Hillary Broke Law... Instructed aide to remove classification marking from information, a federal offense... AT LEAST 1,340 emails now contain classified material...
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 8, 16 5:04 PM
SMOKING GUN EMAIL:

Clinton instructed aide to remove the classification marking from information, a federal offense

The latest batch of Hillary emails released by State Dept. Friday contain the smoking gun that should force the Justice Dept. to charge the former secretary of state with a crime, according to fed. prosecutor Joseph diGenova.

“This is gigantic,” said diGenova. “She caused a classified marking to be removed & had it transmitted in an unencrypted ...more
Jan 9, 16 7:24 AM appended by They call me
A FELONY !
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 9, 16 7:24 AM
You make it sound like the opinion of Joseph diGenova is something to be respected when nothing could be further from the truth. He is little more then a Republican talking head who has been engaged in hatchet jobs on the Clintons for more than 20 years. Nothing that comes out of his mouth should be taken seriously.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 9, 16 7:28 PM
The pertinent crime was conducting State business via a private, non-secure mechanism over which the government - institutionally - had neither knowledge nor control.

Pre-emptively and secretly immunizing oneself against the Freedom of Information Act is itself a crime when one is a government employee.

FLASH BACK ...

On April 23, 2015, a federal judge sentenced Petraeus to two years’ probation plus a fine of $100,000.
That was for a change of unauthorized removal ...more
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 9, 16 8:51 PM
EYEWITNESS COLOGNE: GERMANY DEPLOYS 143 OFFICERS TO STOP MIGRANT RAPE, 1,500 OFFICERS TO STOP ANTI-RAPE PROTEST
Jan 9, 16 7:08 PM appended by 27dan
PAPER: Hillary EmailGate Goes Nuclear... Blumenthal Access to NSA Reports?
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 9, 16 7:08 PM
We await still the first Lee Zeldin headline to be occasioned by his having done something ACTUALLY USEFUL for his constituents.
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 9, 16 9:16 PM
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Zeldin Ousts Incumbent Bishop on Long Island

BY DAN FRIEDMAN NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Tuesday, November 4, 2014, 11:04 PM
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 10, 16 10:41 AM
We live in a nation with a CAPITALIST system June , thank God. Profit is crucial to the survival of business , without business there would be no jobs , without business and jobs there would be no tax base , without a tax base there would be no funds to run the giant bureaucracy you love. A question for you who would pay for your slice of Socialust Utopia?
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 10, 16 11:30 AM
Maybe HHS would lend her the money
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 10, 16 11:37 AM
You're obviously unaware that you've always lived in a part socialist system. Public schools, libraries, museums, hospitals, highways, bridges, tunnels, railroads, police and fire departments, certain sports stadiums, theatres, etc., etc. all socialized in America. As for the rest of our economic system, all the props of a capitalist democracy remain intact--elections, legislatures, media, but they've been usurped by capitalists and predominantly function at the service of the oligarchy. And for ...more
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 10, 16 7:20 PM
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By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 10, 16 7:26 PM
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By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 10, 16 10:01 PM
Yes June, I THANK GOD that

we live in the greatest nation on the planet, I THANK GO, that we have the freedom to pursue our goals and have the opportunity to be successful. I thank God that government still has not quashed the entrepreneurial spirit that makes us strong!! You think that because of profit that the scales "are tipped to such a point that they must be brought into balance."? Who decides how much profit is enough? The almighty government? That very thought is abhorrent to ...more
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 11, 16 10:49 AM
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To bigfresh: To start with, fix the tax system. Eliminate all tax breaks, deductions and untaxed perks. No tax on income below twice the poverty level and after that everyone pays the same rate on every dollar of income. To paraphrase Warren Buffet: There is something wrong with a tax system where my secretary pays more of her income in taxes than I do. Interested? Google Fairtax dot org. After that we can work on corporate welfare...
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 11, 16 3:41 PM
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You want to fix the tax system go to a consummation tax exempting food and medicine and then eliminate the IRS like some here have said for years.
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 11, 16 3:59 PM
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consumption
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 11, 16 5:56 PM
Consumption taxes penalize the poor as they have very little disposable income while the affluent can use their disposable income in ways that avoid taxation. They are just as bad as our current system.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 11, 16 6:35 PM
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Your "fix" would create a permanent Democrat voting bloc of freestuffers bird. To quote Barak the Munificent , peace be upon Him, " We all have to have some skin in the game". ALL Americans, and I mean every single working American has to pay something in Federal Income tax. How much confiscated wealth is enough for the bloated bureaucracy ??
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 11, 16 8:51 PM
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It does not penalize anyone, he said make food and meds exempt ... or were you not paying attention? If you want an air conditioner or a play station you should pay the 17% tax

What you want is wealth redistribution, sorry we tried that for the last 18 years with this ignoramus you align yourself with ... the party's over so put on you big pants and get a night job like your grandparents would have
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 11, 16 9:03 PM
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Time doesn't permit a full response, but bird 388 is right in that tax reform is needed, as is getting money out of politics, minimum wage increases, revitalized unions, re-instating Glass Steagal, etc. etc. Hardly scratches the surface, but in the meantime, time for a society of billionaires and homeless children to take a time out from bragging.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 11, 16 10:06 PM
My grandparents didn't have night jobs after they got out of their twenties. Grandpa was a licensed plumber, and Grandma was a housewife who raised four children and they all went to college without a fifty thousand dollar debt load. Their house was paid for in twenty years, and they retired in normal fashion.

joe, your glaring anger and anecdotal, baseless stories are rather comedic, however...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 11, 16 10:28 PM
Socialist ramblings there June, do you have a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker on your Prius?
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 12, 16 9:24 PM
Let me try and make you understand how you've bought the Kool-Aid, and how asleep you are. Everything we feared about Communism--that we would lose our houses and savings and be forced to labor eternally for meager wages with no voice in the system has come true under Capitalism. The goal of corporate Capitalism and the goal of Communism is EXACTLY the same--to consolidate the control of all natural resources and means of production into the hands of the elite, thus making the individual dependent ...more
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 13, 16 6:09 PM
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By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 14, 16 10:23 AM
What does pointing out that my views might be in line with another commenter contribute to any discussion? How about dazzling us with a smart and convincing argument instead of sounding like a 7th grader. And thanks for the amusement re: your assumptions re: my name and gender.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 14, 16 11:30 AM
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The degree of juvenility displayed pretty much abandons all hope regarding the occurrence of such an event. It's far easier to be petulant and dismissive, than it is to engage in critical thought, weigh empirical evidence, and draw properly weighted conclusions.

But hey, it could happen...
Jan 14, 16 6:24 PM appended by Mr. Z
Oh, and if you're well informed enough you'll note over time how some persons here are Mark Levin's parrots...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 14, 16 6:24 PM
Oh, I was totally conscious that should any such thing happen it'd have to go down in the annals of miracles.
What little exposure I allow myself to the venomous broadspewing of the wingnuts allows me to imagine you're 100% right about the source of the parroting.
Reminds me of the old saying that empty barrels make the most noise.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 14, 16 9:11 PM
Not sure what country you're living in June, but here in the United States of America we are not forced to labor for meager wages or are losing our homes and savings. The means of production are in PRIVATE hands, not those of your beloved Big Governmenrt. We as individuals are free to take advantage of the capitalist system and better ourselves through hard work and entrepreneurship , we are not dependent on the "corporate state". You have been fed the extreme left wings' version of the truth, America ...more
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 15, 16 1:26 PM
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Apparently bigfresh continues to live in his test tube world.

News Flash: Most of the rest of America did lose all, or nearly all they had earned for themselves via disaster Capitalism. I've traveled this country coast to coast, mile for mile, and have met a lot of people whose story is just that.

I'd welcome you to the real world, but you haven't arrived yet...
Jan 15, 16 9:43 PM appended by Mr. Z
Oh, and funny thing about light sweet crude dropping below $30, regular gas on the East End costs as much as 91 octane West of the Mississippi. You can't get hi-test (93) out that way...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 15, 16 9:43 PM
I stand by my comments June Z, the system works well, for those who are willing to WORK HARD!!!!
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 16, 16 11:37 AM
According to history, the system has a legacy of failure. Also, you seem to have a short term memory issue, and forgotten 2008 already. Heck, the Great Depression was a major factor in Hitler's rise to power and was triggered by the United States' stock market crash. From the Panic of 1837, to the Panic of 1857, Black Friday in 1869, the Panic of 1873 which led to the Long Depression, the Panic of 1884, the Panic of 1893, the Panic of 1896, the 1901 stock crash, the Panic of 1907, the 1920 Depression, ...more
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 16, 16 12:38 PM
"lottery of birth" my posterior Mr Z. Nothing given on a silver platter here, HARD WORK AND SOME MORE hard work, saving, sacrificing . Your communist idols are the ones that have destroyed Numerous lives, not some economic downturns. I have asked before , what system would you favor if you could abolish our capitalist one? Something akin to Stalinism, perhaps communism as perpetrated by Mao, Pol Pot maybe? Castro's Cuba or Hugo Chavez" little regime? Seriously what's better than what we have here ...more
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 16, 16 10:12 PM
Yes, "lottery of birth".

You're lucky you weren't born in Rwanda.

Wake the **** up.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 17, 16 3:20 PM
For reference:


Wealthy cabals run America
Oligarchs aren’t even trying to hide their influence any more
January 17, 2016 2:00AM ET
by Malcolm Harris @BigMeanInternet

On December 28, the New York Times ran an article about a small group of powerful people in Minnesota. The members of the Itasca Project, who aren’t elected, are, in the words of Times journalist Nelson D. Schwartz, “a private civic initiative by 60 or so local leaders to further ...more
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 17, 16 4:33 PM
Care to address my question? No need to get all huffy sport.
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 17, 16 9:36 PM
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As I've explained to you on multiple prior occasions, we HAD a decent system of progressive taxation, and financial regulation.

The Reagan administration put the wrecking ball to it, and Clinton put the last nail in the coffin with the GLBA.

Sometimes, one does get tired of repeating one's self to those who don't get it, unless they're fed it. And, it's usually good to be careful about what "truths" are on your plate...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 24, 16 12:59 PM
I was wondering why mr. hat was ignoring the qestion you guys put to him, so i started reading about this creep jeff epsiein and his involvement with clinton, i think the whole think is so disgraceful, espcialy the thing with the island , omg. also i just read about how kathleen willey one of the women who famously accused bill clinton of sexual assault, has said she suffered acts of intimidation from hillarys people to silence her, and how she used a radio interview on sunday to broadcast a message ...more
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 10, 16 6:08 PM
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epstein is a pervert using underage girls and boys for sexual pleasure and or perverse sexual use. Bill Clinton was with him on many occasions including his (epsteins) private jet, again at his (epsteins) private island and many underage children came forward and epstein did jail time. Billy boy was of course never charged although he appeared to be at the sites on many occasions where underage sex was going on. considering billy boy's past indiscretions and his affiliation with a known convicted ...more
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Jan 10, 16 6:58 PM
epstein is a pervert using underage girls and boys for sexual pleasure and or perverse sexual use. Bill Clinton was with him on many occasions including his (epsteins) private jet, again at his (epsteins) private island and many underage children came forward and epstein did jail time. Billy boy was of course never charged although he appeared to be at the sites on many occasions where underage sex was going on. considering billy boy's past indiscretions and his affiliation with a known convicted ...more
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Jan 10, 16 6:58 PM
Very good Xtiego you seem to be able to do research much better the High Hat

But lets be fair just because Clinton hung out with a convicted Billionaire pedophile does that really mean anything ? or does It really prove anything about what Hillary is willing to overlook

Come on now, Like the Emails, What difference does It make !
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 10, 16 7:20 PM
FEEL THE BERN

Iowa Democratic Presidential Caucus
NBC/WSJ/Marist

Clinton48
Sanders45
By local 84 (348), riverhead on Jan 10, 16 7:12 PM
Get Berned

By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 11, 16 5:59 AM
As much as I can't stand Hilary Bernie would be far worse. He needs to go back to grade school and learn basic math.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 11, 16 7:13 AM
REPORT: FBI HAS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO PROSECUTE HILLARY CLINTON FOR PUBLIC CORRUPTION
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 11, 16 5:43 PM
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stand by your man does have repercussions even for Bill and Hill
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Jan 11, 16 6:02 PM
Feel the bern everybody This is amazn, through all the bs media blackouts, the constant barrage of attacks from news articles and da fact that he doesn't even have a super pac he still triumphs!
By local 84 (348), riverhead on Jan 11, 16 9:30 PM
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New York Times: Germany Should Close Borders, Conduct Mass Deportations,
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 12, 16 12:31 AM
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I wonder if this could be the issue that leads to the downfall of Merkel...
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 16 1:30 AM
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to joe hampton, Dragerman, razza5350, loading..., 27dan, Undocumented Democrat, They call me, susgeek, Erin 27 E & widow gavits:

Quote:

"We await still the first Lee Zeldin headline to be occasioned by his having done something ACTUALLY USEFUL for his constituents." - highhatsize, Jan. 9
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"Zeldin Ousts Incumbent Bishop on Long Island" - joe hampton, Jan. 10
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- - - and since?

By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 12, 16 1:47 AM
" 'We' await still...."

Who is this "we"? And what are you waiting for? I can see something very useful in the headline of this very article:

"ZELDIN TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF 0BAMACARE REPEAL BILL"


By loading... (588), quiogue on Jan 12, 16 6:55 AM
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It's DraGGerman. A Drager is a gas meter used by first responders.

Since when does a congressman need to focus on Pork? He's in Washington to represent us in the Federal Government.
By Draggerman (941), Southampton on Jan 12, 16 6:57 AM
Seven years and still waiting for the republican alternative...
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 12, 16 7:14 AM
Bird that is a childish response.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 13, 16 12:09 PM
It is not childish at all. For 7 years the republicans have been acting like truculent children, railing at the ACA and wasting time and taxpayer money on going nowhere speeches and votes to repeal without ever once offering a viable alternative. Until they have that alternative they should just go back home and sit on their hands like they did while the bill was being written.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 13, 16 12:36 PM
LOL. So its the GOP's fault that the ACA stinks so bad? You need them to come to the rescue? Remember when:
1. The dems controlled the house and senate and rammed this down everyone's throat even though they didn't want it.
2. Obama said if you like your plan you can keep it.
3. Obama sold this to the American people that it was not a new tax.
4. The GOP pushed for tort reform, medicare reform selling products across state lines and flexibility in plan design.
5. After Obama's ...more
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 13, 16 12:50 PM
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LOL. So its the GOP's fault that the ACA stinks so bad? You need them to come to the rescue? Remember when: - No it's not the GOP's fault. The dems wrote it, they sold their soles to the devil (Lieberman), and yes they own it. My point was that had the republicans participated in the process, they could have made it better.

1. The dems controlled the house and senate and rammed this down everyone's throat even though they didn't want it. - Wrong. The dem's had just enough votes to get this ...more
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jan 14, 16 8:43 AM
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Fact: 39 Republicans voted in favor.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 14, 16 11:01 AM
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To Z and June. Please give it up. You guys either have a tough time with Math or can't read. Explains why you both claim to be experts on fiscal policy. The final vote by the senate on the ACA was 60-39-1 so based on you logic it's the republicans fault for the ACA. Please provide me with the name of ONE republican senator who voted for the ACA
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 15, 16 7:52 AM
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June or Z!! The silence is deafening! I am Still waiting to hear your so called facts. Please name ONE republican senator who voted for the ACA.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 15, 16 6:06 PM
Razza, you are right. I mistakenly read the 39 Republican votes as Yays instead of Nays. Please excuse me--I was so sure I was right.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 15, 16 8:34 PM
I have a Republican who voted in favor of the ACA:

Chief Justice John Roberts

And do try not to act like we live on this site. It just makes you look petulant and querelous; and frankly I did not take the time research June's statement. Pardon me, and enjoy basking in your newfound glory...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 15, 16 9:39 PM
June mistakes happen. We all make them. Z no comment
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 16, 16 7:44 AM
Excellent citation, Mr. Z.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jan 16, 16 2:13 PM
June I hope you do realize that judge Roberts is not a senator. Maybe one of you can name two republican congress people who voted for the ACA. I'll save you the time. You can't. Fact not opinion
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Jan 16, 16 4:29 PM
SLIP SLIDIN' AWAY
HILLARY'S LEAD EVAPORATES
BIDEN PRAISES SANDERS
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 12, 16 8:05 AM
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to loading... :

"I can see something very useful in the headline of this very article:

'ZELDIN TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF 0BAMACARE REPEAL BILL'"
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As both Republicans and Democrats agree, the vote is feckless. It exemplifies Zeldin's constituent service.

.
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 12, 16 8:30 AM
feckless and unnecessary due to the fact that It seems to be folding under Its own weight
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 12, 16 11:13 PM
Put this in your High Hat and smoke it.

A new chart posted by The Washington Post shows in stark terms how severely Hillary Clinton is collapsing in the polls. It’s not simply comparable to 2008. It’s much, much worse.

While Clinton ultimately lost the nomination narrowly to Barack Obama in 2008, she actually held a national lead of about 20 points all the way up to the Iowa caucuses. This time around, her national lead is disintegrating with the caucuses still almost ...more
Jan 15, 16 4:37 PM appended by They call me
I want the old lying witch to suffer the indignity of getting indicted, and then having to drop out of the race. I don't think she'll see prison, although she should,but I want her and High Hat to have to admit what we all knew for years!
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 15, 16 4:37 PM
While everyone is busy celebrating Hillary's fall... I am looking at the horizon and what I see scares the crap out of me. Bernie - Warren ticket.

Zs wet dream... Lord help us all...
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 15, 16 4:46 PM
joe i do not know how you do it you bring up this jeff epstein thing last week and now the whole world is talking about it and hillary is defending against the charges and dropping like a fly in the polls ????
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 12, 16 5:48 PM
Just reading the tea leaves... If I had to make a guess of what happens In the next cycle Biden will flirt with getting In the race again. And Iran and Russia will become even more unstable with the price in oil dropping to new lows.

Lets see how I do Erin ;)
By joe hampton (3428), southampton on Jan 12, 16 11:11 PM
Master of the obvious.^^^^^
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 13, 16 8:42 PM
Was not so obvious 24 hours ago good man.
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 14, 16 12:20 AM
That state of the union was more like a state of denial, this president is completely disconnected from reality on foreign policy
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 13, 16 10:01 AM
...reminded me of my battered old tomcat licking his fur trying to make himself look purrty
By loading... (588), quiogue on Jan 14, 16 7:33 AM
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A community organizer should have never been elected POTUS, especially the second time.
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 13, 16 9:45 PM
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So was it OK to elect Cheney's puppet twice?
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 14, 16 6:18 PM
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By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 15, 16 5:24 PM
Yeah.

Just like Phil and I were the same person, right?

Stupid just doesn't cover quite a few here...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 15, 16 9:39 PM
Tavis Smiley: In The Era of Obama Blacks Have Lost Ground In Every Major Economic Category
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 15, 16 4:16 PM
Andrea Mitchell: Longtime Hillary Clinton Supporters Are Telling Me They Are Getting "Worried"
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 15, 16 4:19 PM
to joe hampton:

Quote:

"While everyone is busy celebrating Hillary's fall... I am looking at the horizon and what I see scares the crap out of me. Bernie - Warren ticket.
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OOOH! I can see why that would terrify the extreme Right-Wing.

A presidential candidate who has the effrontery to criticize the plutocracy's tax perquisites and anti-democratic political influence and a vice-presidential candidate who ...more
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 16, 16 9:57 AM
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America will not elect a Socialist like Burned Out Sanders or a soon to be indicted charlatan like the Hill,
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 16, 16 11:40 AM
I must be honest and say I have tried to understand where people like Mr Z, Phil, June Bug and highhatsize come from.

I also came from very poor beginnings, but my parents and grandparents taught us to work hard and stay focused. don't count other peoples good fortune and work hard and someday you will rise above on your hard work and discipline. well they were right and if me and my two brothers could do it then anyone can.

I do not understand these Bernie Sanders supporters ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 17, 16 2:13 PM
Funny thing with the "right wing". It's "Big Government", unless the program benefits them directly like farm subsidies or corporate welfare.

They're all full of ****.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 17, 16 3:18 PM
If you are including me in that hatchet job you just did, for the record I believe no company is to big to fail.

Just like I believe in states rights and voting with your feet.

If you are un happy in your present environment change It. If you do not like your current job and feel you are qualified for better ( than leave). Its so simple when you cut out the drama and expect others to pay your way at every step.

Some people are truly in need of assistance that is what ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 17, 16 3:27 PM
Considering none of that last post applies to me, you fail yet again.

I have worked very hard in my life. For years at a clip, it was up at 7 AM and down at 11PM-12AM. I mean this in the nicest possible way, but shove it where the sun don't shine.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 17, 16 6:55 PM
yes how could you possibly take that any other way UD. I think you may have touched a nerve.

Anyway congratulations on your assimilation into what was once an amazing country. You are a true American and welcome.
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 17, 16 7:18 PM
Really attack the guy because of what ? He is a hard worker ? your a nice guy Mr Z but you really should evaluate your anger
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 17, 16 7:32 PM
So, I attacked him?

You people need to evaluate your rationality...
Jan 17, 16 8:01 PM appended by Mr. Z
Sticking to my usual "ahead of the curve" dynamic: The combined riches of 62 of the world's most well-heeled individuals in 2015 equaled the wealth of 3.5 billion people, a new report about extreme global wealth inequality released Sunday showed. ~ Source: Oxfam
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 17, 16 8:01 PM
REUTERS NEW NATIONAL POLL

Donald Trump 41.5%
Ted Cruz 14.7%
Ben Carson 12.0%
Jebra Bush 7.6%
Marco Rubio 7.4%
Wouldn’t vote 4.8%
Carly Fiorina 2.7%
Chris Christie 2.6%
Mike Huckabee 2.5%
Rand Paul 2.2%
John Kasich 1.3%
Rick Santorum 0.6%
Jim Gilmore --%
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 17, 16 7:24 PM
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to Undocumented Democrat:

Your inability to understand why everyone can't just do what you did is a condition of your psychopathy, as is your admiration of The Donald, as is the fact that you and The Donald are indifferent to the fate of those who fail to emulate your own behaviors, or whose lifestyle is so inferior to your own. People of normal emotional formation realize that there are myriad reasons why "everyone" cannot do as you both DO or BE who you both ARE - - - AND they EMPATHIZE ...more
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 17, 16 9:16 PM
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Lectures on emathy from this guy...

Not to worry, Erin, the ship of state is steaming vigorously ahead and we Liberals are enjoying the sun on the promenade deck, not to mention the view of extreme Right-Wingers as they vanish beneath the waves in our wake. (Although their despairing cries ARE distressing [momentarily.])

By highhatsize , East Quogue on Aug 14, 14 9:18 AM
Jan 17, 16 9:49 PM appended by joe hampton
Empathy
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 17, 16 9:49 PM
There's also the denial of conservatives that "The Donald" is not right wing. Trump exemplifies a few traits of a sociopath, by the way.

Also, he scores very high on the psychopath checklist. Which would explain a portion of the populace having such an infatuation with his character.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 17, 16 10:17 PM

What do we want ? .... FREE S*

Whos gonna give it to us ?

BERNIE SANDERS ! ! !

By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 19, 16 12:25 PM
Sure Hat, there are those who need a hand up, no one deserves a handout. Please define "extreme right wing". Trump is not right wing so this should be interesting to say the least.
By bigfresh (4593), north sea on Jan 17, 16 9:40 PM
to joe hampton:

Calm yourself, joe. The ship of state is in absolutely no danger of foundering. As we sail though quiet seas and sunny skies, we Liberals are attending lectures in the main salon with titles such as, "Now That The Democrats Have Restored Full Employment, What Next?” and, the rather more distressing topic, “If Right-Wing Republicans Drive The Country Into Bankruptcy, How Can Democrats Rescue It The Next Time?”

For diversion, we will sometimes view ...more
Jan 17, 16 9:53 PM appended by joe hampton
Yes, yes.... The same way we look forward to the Clintons reelection Your always so sure that people are siding with your big goverment mindset Hat Head...to Captn America: "[E]motionally charged scare tactics"! Dear god, if you think that my comments are "emotionally charged", you must have the body temperature of a lizard. (Oh, wait, you're an extremist Right-Winger and we MAY be talking about spending YOUR money. Never mind.) Since we are now in agreement that Lee Zeldin has said nothing about the federal programs for the 1st District that he would abort or eschew in the name of ideological fidelity, perhaps it is time for him to do so. The election is less than four short months away. - Or, he could keep stumm (other than parroting the national Republican party line) until November 4. Either way, the outcome will be the same." Jul 25, 14 3:50 PM Lets hope the national outcome will be the same...
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 17, 16 9:53 PM
The ironic thing about your post is that it was a Republican who laid the groundwork for not only the S&L crisis, but the Great Recession as well.

Sure, a Democrat signed one major bill deregulating banking, BUT the groundwork was laid by:

Republicans who sanctimoniously believe anarchy is freedom. It's not.

"Hey little girl,
You break the laws
You hustle, you deal, you steal from us all"

~ "Moneytalks", AC/DC
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 24, 16 1:11 PM
to joe hampton:

Thanks for the congenial walk down memory lane although I am confused as to your purpose. Have you mistaken the meaning of "empathy", or do you think that my metaphorical mocking of frustrated Right-Wingers is equivalent in cold-bloodedness to the Darwinian culling of the sick poor that those worthies advocate?

If the latter, see my observations about Undocumented Democrat (supra.) If the former - - - a dictionary? (I know that "research" is a four-letter-word ...more
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 18, 16 12:19 AM
Looks like 13 people disagree.

What do we want ? .... FREE S*

Whos gonna give it to us ?

BERNIE SANDERS ! ! !

By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 19, 16 12:24 PM
hmmm, a dictionary....found one! Will Google do? Let's see what it says under 'psychopathic characteristics':

1. glibness and superficial charm
2. grandiose sense of self-worth
3. pathological lying
4. cunning/manipulative

Naw, doesn't sound like anyone I know, either
By loading... (588), quiogue on Jan 18, 16 6:47 AM
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BROADDRICK: CLINTON STALKED ME AFTER RAPE!
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 18, 16 9:31 AM
ud... I just re read what you said to get these two guys all wee wee'd up

Good for you... I would also like to say I am proud to be your neighbor
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 18, 16 12:08 PM
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Here we go again...

Inspector General: Clinton emails had intel from most secretive, classified programs

By Catherine Herridge, Pamela Browne Published January 19, 2016

FBI investigation into Clinton expands beyond emails
EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton's emails on her unsecured, homebrew server contained intelligence from the U.S. government's most secretive and highly classified programs, according to an unclassified letter from a top inspector general to senior lawmakers.

By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 19, 16 2:53 PM
I find It very hard to continue to support Sanders because he rejects reparations.
By local 84 (348), riverhead on Jan 22, 16 1:40 AM
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By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 22, 16 2:07 AM
Any talk of reparations is simply pandering to the gimmedats.
By loading... (588), quiogue on Jan 22, 16 11:04 AM
Let me try that again a little differantly...

Respectfully in response to local and loading...

Trillions upon Trillions in Welfare, Obamastamps. Obamaphones, Public Housing, and decades of Affirmative Action where deserving Whites, Asians, and Jews were by default passed over to provide a spot for African Americans.

The nation has already been paying trillions upon trillions in reparations. How much more before its enough?

Now some in the news would also have ...more
Jan 25, 16 2:28 PM appended by joe hampton
Lawsuits Claim Disney Colluded to Replace U.S. Workers With Immigrants By JULIA PRESTONJAN. 25, 2016 The New York Times Even after Leo Perrero was laid off a year ago from his technology job at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Fla. and spent his final months there training a temporary immigrant from India to do his work he still hoped to find a new position in the vast entertainment company. But Mr. Perrero discovered that despite his high performance ratings, he and most of the other 250 tech workers Disney dismissed would not be rehired for at least a year, and probably never. Now he and Dena Moore, another American laid off by Disney at that time, have filed class-action lawsuits in federal court in Tampa against Disney
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 22, 16 2:28 PM
So Hat what do you think about this ?

PAGE: FBI Will Recommend Prosecution For Hillary...
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 23, 16 5:38 PM
he must be busy or somthing
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 24, 16 12:17 PM
yes thats probably it , he is just busy
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 24, 16 12:40 PM
Busy avoiding your qestion
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 24, 16 12:41 PM
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I even like this question better,

Riddle me this Hatman ? ? ?

Chuck Todd To Hillary Clinton: Why Did A Big Bank Pay You $200,000 For A Speech?

On what planet Is a speech by anyone about anything worth $200,000 ?

Any thinking person can surmise that it is a payoff for future favors.
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 25, 16 12:46 AM
He sees you comments and is pretending he is above them. I would say you are winning yet another round.

but don't get to conceded, You cant help winning when the facts are on your side.

Until we get a new AG this will not get anyplace. Lynch will ignore it.but in the end the outcry from the public will be historic and the ballot box will explode for Trump.
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 25, 16 7:51 AM
Obama Calls Republican Vision ‘Unrecognizable

Now maybe you know how the rest of us have been feeling for the last 8 years !

Time to fundamentally change this country back, by executive order if need be!
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 25, 16 10:25 AM
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to joe hampton, Erin 27 E, 27dan & Undocumented Democrat:

When the extreme Right-Wing ponies up something other than implication, innuendo, unsupported supposition and the "opinions" of anonymous sources, I will trouble to respond.

Until then, one doesn't wish to encourage your distasteful onanism. Your mutual stroking is quite enough, thank you.
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 25, 16 11:20 AM
hilariously predictable mr hat, you did not answer either question , very very telling

in my opinion
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 25, 16 12:04 PM
Hows this for Supported Sources

CNN/ORC Poll: Donald Trump dominates GOP field at 41%

By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director
Updated 11:11 AM ET, Tue January 26, 2016
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 26, 16 12:00 PM
S.O.P for HHS

Drop Roll Duck and Cover
Jan 25, 16 2:14 PM appended by They call me
HHS and his Clinton’s email excuses are falling apart....Hillary Clinton went into damage-control mode when news broke that the inspector general of the intelligence agencies had identified additional classified emails on her private server, including ones containing intelligence on covert “Special Access Programs.” Her campaign even accused the inspector general , an Obama appointee confirmed by a Democratic-controlled Senate, of engaging in a “coordinated leak” with Republicans “for the purposes of hurting her campaign.” Lash out as she might, Clinton’s constantly changing email story is rapidly falling apart. First, Clinton claimed there was “no classified material” on her private server , which turned out to be untrue. Then she claimed none of the intelligence on her server was “classified at the time”, which also turned out to be untrue. Now, in a National Public Radio interview last week, Clinton said there was no information that was “marked classified.”But this is not a defense. It is against the law to remove classification markings from classified information and enter it into an unclassified system , which is the only way this information could have found its way into more than 1,300 emails on Clinton’s personal server. There is no way to “accidentally” send classified information by unclassified email.
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 25, 16 2:14 PM
Reporter fights Hillary Clinton email delay
By JOSH GERSTEIN 01/25/16 12:30 PM EST
Lawyers for a journalist seeking release of Hillary Clinton's email trove are objecting to the State Department's request for a month-long delay to complete disclosure of the final set of the former secretary of state's messages, warning that allowing the process to drag out until the end of February could deprive voters in early caucus and primary states of information on the Democratic presidential candidate.


Jan 25, 16 2:23 PM appended by They call me
Barry is protecting the Hildabeast for some unknown reason. Hillary should be immediately arrested based on the emails already available then incarcerated till obama pardons her.She is a criminal and should be treated as one if they can find one of those orange jump suits large enough for her big............ego.
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 25, 16 2:23 PM
i was watching hillary on tv today having a coughing fit and i could not help thinking

maybe she just could no longer swallow her own lies.
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jan 25, 16 6:37 PM
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to Erin 27 E:

Actually, Erin 27 E, I answered both questions, to wit:

The opinion that the FBI will recommend prosecution for Hillary is "unsupported supposition", and the questioning of the reason behind a bank's paying her $200,000 for a speech is Right-Wing "innuendo".

It's just more of the same vacuous washerwoman gossip of which you and your mindless colleagues are so enamored.

To reiterate, when you post something substantive, I will address it. But ...more
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 26, 16 2:42 PM
Well the figures are In

$8,314,529,850,339.07: Debt Up $70,612.91 Per Household Under Obama...

All the last 8 years have been is writing check we could not cash !

Its time to get to work America, If you have not had a job since obama got in then Its time to get two now to make up for it. Disgraceful
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 26, 16 3:13 PM
Updated: Donald Trump ‘Definitely Not’ Doing Fox News Debate

Megyn Kelly, Grow your hair back..... YOUR FIRED !

REUTERS ROLLING: TRUMP 40%, CRUZ 15.2%, RUBIO 9.2%,

GO TRUMP!

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN !
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 27, 16 12:54 AM
You're
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Jan 27, 16 1:40 AM
No kidding
Jan 27, 16 10:02 AM appended by They call me
Its a Brooklyn thing
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 27, 16 10:02 AM
Hows that schlong feeling Megyn?

I'll be watching Trump help our wounded warriors

Ain't it Great how Trump can FIRE an entire network he doesn't even own?
By 27dan (2813), Shinnecock Hills on Jan 27, 16 5:52 PM
"Waahh!"

Quick, give The Donald a pacifier to suck on. Big, bad Megyn Kelly has threatened him!

What a wanker!

If The Donald ever does get the Republican nomination, his vote totals in NYC will be in single digits. We know a pussy when we see one.
By highhatsize (4181), East Quogue on Jan 28, 16 10:26 PM
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I will be here to make you eat those words... you are becoming quite the misanthrope afraid of will of the people!

By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 29, 16 1:08 AM
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It seems that joe would have backed Lex Luthor for president as well...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jan 29, 16 7:18 AM
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PhilMotyka is banned from this site and should not be commenting
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jan 29, 16 4:42 PM
SMOKING GUN ~

Official: Some Clinton emails 'too damaging' to release
Catherine Herridge . January 29, 2016

Clinton's e-mail problems are worse than previously reported
EXCLUSIVE: The intelligence community has deemed some of Hillary Clinton’s emails “too damaging" to national security to release under any circumstances, according to a U.S. government official close to the ongoing review..

The determination was first reported , hours before the ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jan 29, 16 5:05 PM
REVEALED: OBAMA EMAILED HILLARY 18 TIMES!
FLASHBACK: CLAIMED HE LEARNED FROM MEDIA
By joe hampton (3428), on vacation on Jan 31, 16 2:07 AM
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