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May 2, 2016 4:31 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

East End Hillary Supporters Reflect On Their Choice For President

Hillary Rodham Clinton signs copies of her book “Hard Choices,” at Books & Books on Main Street in Westhampton Beach in 2014. PRESS FILE
May 2, 2016 4:31 PM

With only a handful of key state primaries left in the 2016 presidential primary race, Hillary Clinton has climbed to an enviable position on the national political stage as her delegate total grows with each contest.

The Democratic presidential candidate nabbed 58 percent of the popular vote and 139 delegates in New York last month, a clear victory over her opponent, Bernie Sanders, who collected 108 delegates with 42 percent of the popular vote.

Ms. Clinton continued her winning streak last week with victories in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, while Mr. Sanders pulled out a win in Rhode Island.

Although 15 primaries have yet to held across U.S. states and territories, including Guam and Puerto Rico, many South Fork voters say Ms. Clinton is poised to become the Democratic Party’s choice for the fall presidential ballot.

“I think she’ll definitely be the nominee,” said Gordon Herr, chairman of the Southampton Town Democratic Committee and an admitted supporter of Ms. Clinton. He added that she is the only candidate who can truly deliver.

“She’d be an outstanding president,” Mr. Herr said. “She’s got a tremendous background. That she’s been involved in government for so many years is also a tremendous advantage.”

As for Mr. Sanders, Mr. Herr said that although he agrees with many of the Vermont senator’s policies, he believes Hillary would be the force needed to block a Republican from the Oval Office. “I think we all like what Bernie says. He’s certainly moved the conversation, moved it to left … But I think that Hillary will make a better candidate against Trump,” he said, referring to Republican frontrunner Donald Trump.

Jeanne Frankl, chairperson of the East Hampton Town Democratic Committee, said Ms. Clinton has the ability to implement major party policies, including those that Mr. Sanders has brought into the forefront, like income inequality and the deconstruction of big business. “While I think the concerns that Bernie Sanders raised are an absolute priority for our country going forward, I think Hillary Clinton, with her experience and sophistication in government and intelligence, is best suited to implement policies that he has raised,” she said.

“Things are going to have to be done gradually, done in a way that includes all the people in our country. Somehow the big business is going to have to discover, and rich people are going to have to discover, that income equality is in their interest … We’re going to need a good negotiator and a tough, sophisticated leader to move the country in that direction.”

However, Ms. Frankl said she disagrees with some of Ms. Clinton’s approaches to foreign policy, calling her “hawkish” at times. “That’s why I supported President Obama in the last election,” she said, referring to Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign, where bested Ms. Clinton for the Democratic Party nomination. “I hope she will be guided by other people on those foreign policy issues.”

For the most part, though, Ms. Frankl said she admires the former U.S. senator from New York and has done so since she was a young woman. “I heard her speak in New York about her interest in people and children,” she said. “I think her well-known concerns for minorities are an expression of the deep concerns. People do not understand the personal investment she has made in the welfare of Americans. I think she’s wrongly criticized for compromises that are rational and valid during her husband’s administration.”

The East Hampton Democratic Committee as a whole has been divided between Ms. Clinton and Mr. Sanders, said Ms. Frankl. Regardless of who wins, she said, she hopes that supporters will rally behind the candidate who receives the nomination. But with much talk of a “Bernie or Bust” movement forming, in which supporters have pledged to stay home on election day if Mr. Sanders is not the nominee, she admitted that there are still challenges ahead in ensuring a Democrat is elected president.

“We’re going to have to work very, very hard if Trump is nominated,” Ms. Frankl said. “We have to make sure they get defeated and that disappointed Bernie supporters come out and vote.”

Mr. Herr said he believed it to be irresponsible for Democrats to either stay home or vote for a Republican candidate.

“It’s hard to wrap my head around,” he said. “I can understand young people’s passion, feeling betrayed, but Bernie or Hillary will be a thousand times better than the Republicans. This country cannot afford to be in this situation. We cannot afford another Bush presidency, which created so much damage.”

The Bernie Sanders campaign has not made an effort to calm the party’s waters, said Democratic National Committeeman Robert Zimmerman, a founding partner of the Zimmerman/Edelson public relations and marketing firm, and a self-described “prominent fundraiser and supporter” of Ms. Clinton.

“I’m hoping the Sanders campaign will take a more positive, issue-oriented approach and not engage in personal attacks,” said Mr. Zimmerman, a part-time Southampton resident. “We have to keep the party united and look to November.”

Specifically, Mr. Zimmerman said the Supreme Court is at stake. Based on the ages of the current members of the Supreme Court—with three out of eight over age 70—many are speculating that the next president will likely nominate several justices.

“Consider what Ted Cruz and Trump represent,” said Mr. Zimmerman. “This is a highly motivating factor for Sanders and Clinton to unite, to put that before our own political preferences.”

In addition, Mr. Zimmerman said that a win for Hillary would also mean a win for the East End. “There has never been a presidential candidate that understood the needs of the East End more than Hillary Clinton,” he said. “She has been coming out here for decades. We’re very fortunate to have as a future Democratic nominee, an individual, I believe, who will become president, to be so involved in our concerns and understand our needs.”

Former East Hampton Town Supervisor and New York State Democratic Committee member Judith Hope said that Ms. Clinton’s history of policy in New York speaks for itself when it comes to her advocacy for the East End. “She really understands the remarkable history and appreciates the unique and very special natural environment,” she said. “When she was senator, she met with local farmers … the Long Island Farm Bureau adores her. She works hard for them and with them.”

Ms. Hope, who has known Ms. Clinton personally for 35 years, said Ms. Clinton’s character has always been a big appeal as well. “I find her to be a remarkable woman in every way. Her intelligence is self-evident. More than that, she is the hardest-working person I’ve ever known,” said Ms. Hope.

The former town supervisor has been on the front lines of Ms. Clinton’s campaign, organizing phone banks throughout East Hampton, Sag Harbor and the North Fork.

Although Ms. Hope could not say what Ms. Clinton’s future plans were in terms of fundraising and campaigning on the East End this summer, she said she was sure her attention was focused on the next round of primaries.

“She has to now spend all her time on the West Coast,” she said. “Even though she’s in a favorable position—much better than Barack Obama was in 2008—she’s not gonna sit back. She will continue to work very, very hard for every vote.”

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She "understands the needs of the East End"?? She rented a $12M house for $50,000 per week. That's what most people earn in a year! More like she understands the needs of an elite few and steps all over everyone else.
By localEH (427), East Hampton on May 3, 16 10:36 AM
Actually, a full 2/3 of the country gross less than that per annum.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 3, 16 8:16 PM
What happened when She was a lawyer? What happened to her law license?
By knitter (1941), Southampton on May 3, 16 11:16 AM
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Her license to practice law in Arkansas has lapsed. Considering her choice of career paths, it seems she no longer needs it, and hasn't needed it since 2002.

It's a simple case of not completing educational requirements to prevent the license from lapsing. My guess would be she doesn't have the opportunity to practice law in Arkansas that much in the last fifteen years.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 3, 16 8:21 PM
Go trump she is the last thing this country needs
By bigblue84 (89), Hampton Bays on May 3, 16 1:20 PM
She has the burden of scandal going back to the Nixon years. The Clinton Foundation is a mill stone around her neck, along with her e-mail shennagins. Trump wins and wins big!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 3, 16 1:48 PM
Trump ensures a Clinton win. You can blame the Republicans for the next President Clinton.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on May 3, 16 4:14 PM
She is nothing but a corrupt self serving liar

besides that

we need to get rid of obama care before it destroys this country!
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 3, 16 5:02 PM
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I have no use for her either. I value my vote, neither of them will get mine.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on May 3, 16 8:46 PM
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Trump,

Didn't lie about being shot at
Nor did he lie about abandoning 4 Americans
Didn't lie about emails and breaking the rules about classified email
He hasn't been fired from an investigation of a President
Hasn't attacked women his husband decided to forcibly bed
Didn't lie about the cause of Bengazi attacks and murders

No one has done a better job of staining the Presidential role than the wannabe POTUS - unless it is the current POTUS, or perhaps her ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 3, 16 4:55 PM
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to joe hampton:

Quote:

"I have had to compile and organize these over the years just to keep track of them."
------------------------------------------------

Too bad you wasted your time (and ours) compiling an inane catalog of implication and innuendo. But then, in the absence of objective FACT, what else could you do?

- - - or is it that extreme Right-Wingers just have an incomprehensible fondness for drivel.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 3, 16 5:52 PM
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FLASH: TRUMP WINS INDIANA IN LANDSLIDE...
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 3, 16 7:07 PM
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Donald Trump: Candidate for Liar in Chief


The 2016 federal omnibus spending bill "funds illegal immigrants coming in and through your border, right through Phoenix."

Complete and total [expletive deleted] fabrication.

"ISIS is making millions of dollars a week selling Libyan oil."

Bald faced lie.

Says professional football coach Rex Ryan "won championships in New York. The AFC, I think, twice."

Dope.

"My numbers are better ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 3, 16 9:28 PM
That sure is a lot of drivel
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 6, 16 1:12 AM
One more for your list---THOUSANDS of Muslims in the metropolitan area cheered as the Twin Towers came down. Yet another whopper for the rubes to swallow.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 11:34 AM
Oh and yes, "I have people investigating Obama's birth in Kenya. You wouldn't believe what they're finding out." Maybe the most devious lie of all. Let's piggyback off of the crazies so they'll support my candidacy.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 11:46 AM
“We have to make sure...disappointed Bernie supporters come out and vote.”

IMHO the Clinton campaign should be worrying about non Bernie supporters in the party who are leaning Trump. It seems like she's doing everything she can to drive middle class voters to the republican camp. Pandering to the illegals and the Black Lives Matter raquaters, Also her statements that she will continue to build on the current presidents achievements like criminalizing police work, causing the ...more
By bird (829), Sag Harbor on May 3, 16 5:31 PM
Burnie got screwed by the system an you no it

now i will be sitin home on the couch and that is a fact you can not change

feel the burn
By local 84 (353), riverhead on May 3, 16 6:49 PM
all lives matter !
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 3, 16 6:51 PM
Trump wins LARGE in Indiana! Imagine the debates between The Donald and the PIAPS ( pig in a pantsuit)! President Trump has nice ring to it.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 3, 16 7:10 PM
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53% with less than 15% of precincts reporting.

Landslide? Really?

And you wonder why many of us think the conservative lot are fools.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 3, 16 7:31 PM
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Your Beloved and Bitter CNBC was the first to call it LOLLLLLLL


Hillary Clinton Trolls Shut Down Pro-Bernie Sanders Facebook GroupsAmanda Girard | April 26, 2016

Some of the biggest pro-Bernie Sanders groups on Facebook were briefly taken down Monday evening in a targeted attack by Hillary Clinton supporters.

The groups Bernie Sanders Activists, Bernie Believers, BERNIE OR BUST, Bernie Sanders Revolutionaries, Bay Area for Bernie, Bernie Sanders 2016 — Ideas ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 3, 16 7:36 PM
I don't watch network news.

I****.
May 3, 16 8:05 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, just for reference, I don't even rent a Cablevision box.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 3, 16 8:05 PM
53 to 35 is a landslide in anyones book.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on May 3, 16 8:48 PM
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Maybe in a face off, sure 18 points qualifies.

But in a primary election, with three or more candidates splitting the vote?

Calling that a "landslide" is beyond a stretch. Trump garnered nowhere near 70% of the vote. It's polemics at best, and idiocy at the worst.
May 3, 16 9:06 PM appended by Mr. Z
"...sure 18 points remotely qualifies."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 3, 16 9:06 PM
Even more so with 3 candidates.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on May 3, 16 10:19 PM
No. A "landslide" traditionally requires a minimum of 60% of the vote to be cast for one candidate, in a one on one contest.

The muppets in the media for purposes of sensationalism and polemics have tried to turn it into something less than that, but they have simply cheapened it's meaning. Such is what we have come to expect from America's Fourth Estate these days.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 4:12 AM
Seriously Z do you know everything? LOL. There is NO legal definition or measure of a landslide political victory however it is generally agreed that anything over 15 points is considered pretty darn good. Hilary wished she got it last night.
FYI politico considers 10 points a landslide victory and NY Times 20 points. The 70% you refer to is actually winning 70% of the electoral votes.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 4, 16 4:24 AM
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Did I not say "traditionally"?

Do you ever pass up on a chance to talk s***?
May 4, 16 4:33 AM appended by Mr. Z
Y'all complain about "everyone getting a trophy", but cheapening the meaning of a term which describes an overwhelming and decisive victory is OK. It is to laugh...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 4:33 AM
I believe he won all or most of the delegates. I would call that pretty decisive and yes I rarely pass up the chance to talk. You make it so easy. You post as if you are an authority on everything yet you know very little.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 4, 16 6:39 AM
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Since when does winning a primary or delegates constitute a landslide? I guess everyone who wins a majority of delegates gets a trophy now.

And, as far as the "authority" snipe people who physically know me would tell you you're full of ****.
May 4, 16 8:38 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, by the way, could you explain how the Wisconsin GOP primary results were not referred to as a "landslide" for Ted Cruz? Yeah. Y'all can't smell yourselves kneeling in your own bull****.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 8:38 PM
TRUMP INSTANTLY PROJECTED INDIANA WINNER AS POLLS CLOSE
May 3, 16 7:31 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
AND DONALD TRUMP SECURES THE NOMINATION !!!!!!!! Congradulations Donald Nice work everyone it has been a long 11 months....... On to the General....... look out Bernie or Hillda the Trump train is coming
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 3, 16 7:31 PM
Trump quotes outright tabloid lies about Ted Cruz's father.

Trump tweets he was "big inspiration" to serial killer couple on Twitter.

If Trump wins, America will be the laughingstock of the world.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 3, 16 9:18 PM
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with Obama as pres we are already a laughing stock of the world.
By MichaelDolan (3), on May 11, 16 7:50 PM
SANDERS WINS INDIANA...
DEMS IN DISARRAY...

Just waiting for the Fat Lady to Sing... and go to Prison!
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 4, 16 12:00 AM
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Where? On GOP Fantasy Island?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 4:32 AM
#FEELTHETRUMPTHUMP
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 4, 16 5:12 AM
BIFF TANNEN 2016!
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 6:32 AM
TRUMP VS PUNDITS: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS POLLSTERS: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS FAUX: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS Mr. Z: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS ROMNEY: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS RYAN: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS BECK: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS LEVIN: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS RUSH: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS CNN: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS CRUZ: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS BOZELL: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS MATTHEWS : TRUMP WINS

TRUMP VS HILLARY: TRUMP WINS

TRUMP ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 4, 16 3:07 PM
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"I consider my health, stamina and strength one of my greatest assets.The world has watched me for many years and can so testify-great genes!"
7:19 AM - 3 Dec 2015

Except for one day in July of 1968...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 10:25 PM
Yeah, and TRUMP VS. AMERICA: AMERICA LOSES.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 12:03 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 4, 16 6:39 AM
so Trump has exaggerated some numbers. Who's lies have hurt more people Trump or Hillary? Btw we have been the laughing stock of the world for the last 7 years
By GoldenBoy (351), EastEnd on May 4, 16 10:54 AM
Trump vs. Hillary.
How tragically sad.
By Craigcat (258), Speonk on May 4, 16 1:12 PM
Bernie Sanders has been treated terribly by the Democrats—both with delegates & otherwise. He should show them, & run as an Independent.

By local 84 (353), riverhead on May 5, 16 3:32 PM
Trump will finally bring to light the sins of the Crooked Clintons that the media has hidden & covered up. There will be no where to hide.

The choice in this election is simple.

Hillary Clinton represents the globalist elite, with more unemployment, higher taxes, less freedom, more wars, fewer opportunities, more debt, more unrestrained immigration, and more corruption.

Donald Trump doesn't.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 4, 16 2:57 PM
Flashback June 2015: Bill Maher & His Audience Laugh At Ann Coulter For Saying Trump Could Win Nomination,

Like some around here, They're not laughing anymore.

"She who laughs last............"
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 4, 16 8:08 PM
Interesting "Vice" show. Development resort on Dubai using Donald Trump's name not his construction company, is being built by what amounts to paid slaves. Their passports have been taken and were given half of what they were promised. Living in over-crowded, unsanitary conditions. For the guy who knows everything, has an non-politically correct opinion about everything, how does he get involved in these unscrupulous business adventures. He most be aware of what's going on there.
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on May 4, 16 8:55 PM
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You reminded me of this:

"The main difference between a cat and a lie is that a cat only has nine lives.

~ Mark Twain
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 10:38 PM
Frankly when it comes to American politics in the 21st century, you walk into the voting booth and are faced with choosing between two piles of s***, whilst the only difference being the smell. The least offensive is the one you tend to pull the lever for, should you actually vote. Turnout has been pathetic and apathetic for some time.

Trump is not the first a****** to run for president, or even be elected president. There was Jackson, Pierce, Harding, Grant, and heck every president ...more
May 4, 16 9:04 PM appended by Mr. Z
The Marshall Project: Trump and the Mob
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 4, 16 9:04 PM
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Illegal immigrant numbers skyrocket at Mexican border...
More join armed groups to patrol...
'Bad people' crossing...
Cut through barbed wire in seconds...
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 5, 16 12:36 AM
Having a President who is unabashedly pro-America will be refreshing after 8 years of Mecca leaning Obama.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 5, 16 7:17 AM
Do you know who started the birther movement? Do you know who started it? Do you know who questioned his birth certificate, one of the first? Hillary Clinton. She’s the one that started it. She brought it up years before it was brought up by anyone else
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 5, 16 11:14 AM
really

i did not know that but i just lookied it up and could not belive it but its true
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 5, 16 3:29 PM
It was Orly Taitz.

Christ you people are gullible.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 5, 16 7:42 PM
to Mr. Z:

"Gullible" is too innocuous a word. Habitual credulity of this sort defines the pitiable cognition of extreme Right-Wingers (and their idols.) They're magpies for every glittery piece of anti-Democratic libel.

(On second thought, my apologies to magpies. Those clever birds are far more discerning than Right-Wingers.)
------------------------------------------------

"Was Hillary Clinton the Original ‘Birther’?"
by Robert Farley (FactCheck.org, ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 6, 16 8:46 AM
I truly find it amazing that Ted Cruz won Wisconsin by a greater margin than Trump won Indiana.

Yet, Trump's win is a "landslide" according to the crowd that complains about "everyone getting a trophy" consistently.

It is to laugh...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 6, 16 9:39 PM
Left wingers are equally full of s***, just more self righteous.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on May 7, 16 7:37 PM
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So you admit that right wingers are full of sh***. Interesting.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 12:16 PM
My post was pretty straight forward.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on May 18, 16 9:10 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — The FBI has interviewed Huma Abedin, a close aide to Hillary Clinton, as part of a federal investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server as secretary of state, a person familiar with the probe said Thursday.

The person insisted on anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

The FBI and Justice Department have been investigating whether sensitive information that flowed through Clinton's email server was mishandled.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 6, 16 1:09 AM
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By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 6, 16 8:06 AM
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Where there's smoke there's fire and Hillary is one smoking pile!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 6, 16 8:48 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 6, 16 9:13 AM
Democratic presidential hopeful Bernie Sanders was awarded 49 more delegates in Washington state, according to district-level breakdown of the state’s primary results done by the Associated Press.

The Vermont senator won the March 26 primary in a landslide, taking 25 of the 34 delegates awarded on election day.
The rest of the state’s 101 delegates are awarded according to results from congressional districts, which had not been determined until Saturday.
By local 84 (353), riverhead on May 8, 16 11:42 AM
..............BANNED ! and BOOTED!
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 8, 16 2:56 PM
Inside Donald Trump's Empire: Why He Didn't Run for President in 2012

With lawsuits pending and shady partners, Trump’s business empire could not withstand the scrutiny of a presidential campaign, and even his kids might have been muddied.

By Wayne Barrett

The Trump family has also gone into business with two convicted cocaine traffickers, one in Turkey and another in Philadelphia. Engin Yesil, whose development company was said to “ own the Turkey rights” ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 8, 16 2:59 PM
And notice the bogus stalling tactic on releasing his tax returns. Lies about that, too, when he says his old returns can't be released as long as the current one is being audited. David Cay Johnston has been trying to enlighten Americans on that score. To no avail, apparently, to the willfully stupid.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 12:23 PM
Yeah and Hilary is squeaky clean
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 8, 16 3:12 PM
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Lied about being shot at

Lied about abandoning 4 Americans

Lied about emails and breaking the rules about classified email

Has been fired from an investigation of a President

Has attacked women his husband decided to forcibly bed

Has lied about the cause of Bengazi attacks and murders

No one has done a better job of staining the Presidential role than the wannabe POTUS - unless it is the current POTUS, or perhaps her husband and his antics

and ...more
May 8, 16 4:02 PM appended by joe hampton
TRUMP IS NOT THE GOP ELITES’ PROBLEM, THE VOTERS ARE
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 8, 16 4:02 PM
And now you try to justify your candidates compulsive lying, and crooked ties to organized crime by bashing the candidate who is no better, nor any worse.

Hmmmmmmm.....
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 8, 16 6:37 PM
to joe hampton:

Why reiterate the outright lies, the lies by imputation, and the lies by inference that you already posted on May 3 (supra.) Once was deplorably enough!

Will you ever post verifiable fact instead of puerile Right-Wing scandal-mongering?
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 8, 16 7:00 PM
It also bears mentioning that there have been multiple candidates who base their campaign on high rhetoric, and grandiose promises.

Then, if and when they do get elected, they run head on into the wall that is the D.C. culture of lobbying and pay to play.

Maybe Trump isn't "paid for", but most of Congress is. Please do try not to be so d**** obtuse.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 8, 16 11:08 PM
I am glad Joe and BF have illuminated all these "inferences" Sunlight is the best disinfectant, let the voters do there own researce and decide if where there is smoke there is fire.
May 9, 16 12:59 AM appended by 27dan
research
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 9, 16 12:59 AM
Perhaps Drumpf should visit Japan. He can then stop by the Takata factory, and show them what a living, breathing, defective airbag looks like.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 9, 16 7:06 AM
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Yes, what a letdown it's going to be for all the lemmings who think Nirvana's coming once they get their airbag in. Maybe that's when we'll see Apocalyptic blood in the streets.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 12:28 PM
........ Banned for Life
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 8, 16 4:07 PM
Sanders applauds Maine for banning superdelegates
May 8, 16 4:26 PM appended by local 84
The head of the DNC Debbie Wasserman-Shutltz even admitted the DNC is a rigged vote in a Feb. 11 interview. “What do you tell voters who are new to the process who say this makes them feel like it’s all rigged?” Tapper asked the DNC chair. “Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists,” Wasserman Schultz calmly explained........ I CALL THIS COMPLETE B $ _- - - BERNIE FOR THE PEOPLE OR I WILL STAY HOME !
By local 84 (353), riverhead on May 8, 16 4:26 PM
Bernie needs to stay in until the last primary. If anyone is going to be proof superdelegates are bull****, this is the primary to prove it conclusively.

Delegate count:

Clinton: 1705
Sanders: 1415
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 8, 16 11:46 PM
Church Chat: Marla Maples and Donald Trump
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 8, 16 11:26 PM
Trump: Men Today "Are Petrified To Speak To Women Anymore,"

"So here's the story, just remember. Hillarys going to do it, I'm going to play the same game, but I don't have to spend $90 million."

"She's married to a man who is the worst abuser of women in the history of politics, she's married to a man who hurt many women, if you look, and you study. Hillary, hurt many women, the women that he abused. She's married to a man who got impeached for lying, he was impeached... and ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 9, 16 1:25 AM
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Trump's ties to organized crime is enough to give me plenty of second thoughts about voting for him. He claims some type of genetic superiority, hopefully he's not a eugenics throwback, but there is an exception on one day back in 1968. Then there's all his bigoted rhetoric. He's a "birther", and the real coup de grace of his personality is his absolute juvenility and puerile character. Additionally, he's not presidential material by any stretch of the imagination.

Is Hillary any better? ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 9, 16 7:35 AM
Hillary limits public, press access to avoid more embarrassing confrontations? MAY 9, 2016

In an apparent attempt to control who is able to talk to the candidate and reduce the possibility of embarrassing moments the Hillary Clinton campaign is severely restricting the crowd size at a Virginia event today.

Not only that, but the campaign is hampering media coverage by allowing a “pool” reporter only.

Clinton is scheduled to appear at the Mug-N-Muffin in Stone ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 9, 16 5:03 PM
Newsflash. Z is having plenty of second thoughts about voting for Trump! LOL.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 10, 16 7:13 AM
The Marshall Project: Trump and the Mob
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 10, 16 7:21 AM
he has done many real estate projects in NY and NJ (AC). Try getting a project done in those areas where no aspect of the project has mob ties.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 10, 16 10:35 AM
O ?

Are we allowed to discuss associations of politicians now Mr Z ? You did not like it when some here gave you a list 2 feet long of Obamas associations

Do you remember that ?
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 10, 16 2:38 PM
As usual, you miss the point.

They're ALL dirty to some extent.

It's like spelling it out on a third grade blackboard for most of you.
May 10, 16 10:13 PM appended by Mr. Z
And razza, if you actually read the Marshall reporting, you'd know it extended beyond "projects". It's quite obvious you skipped the full reporting...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 10, 16 10:13 PM
LOL. I read "The Marshall report is bringing the progressive truth to the world" and figured that was enough.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 11, 16 9:02 AM
I am rooting for Burned Out Sanders to get the Democrat Party endorsement too Mr. Z! A proud Socialist running for President guarantees a Trump Presidency. GO BURNIE!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 9, 16 6:06 AM
Trump now wants to tax the wealthy, and raise the minimum wage. He's becoming more of a Democrat as the race wears on...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 9, 16 6:34 AM
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Everyone I spoke with this weekend is ready to vote for Trump I am telling you the Trump Train is going to crush Hillary In NY and Pennsylvania
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 9, 16 8:02 AM
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Maybe he will shift enough to the left that you will vote for him Z. Maybe he will join the socialist party with Bernie...NOT.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 9, 16 7:04 AM
1. The age of outburst (or pioneers).
2. The age of conquests.
3. The age of commerce.
4. The age of affluence.
5. The age of intellect.
6. The age of decadence.
7. The age of decline and collapse.

Feels like we recently passed decadence...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 9, 16 7:21 AM
sounds dangerous
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 9, 16 7:46 AM
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"A noble man compares and estimates himself by an idea which is higher than himself; and a mean man, by one lower than himself. The one produces aspiration; the other ambition, which is the way in which a vulgar man aspires."

~ Marcus Aurelius
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 9, 16 8:06 PM
Ambition is Good !
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 10, 16 2:34 PM
........ Banned for Life
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 9, 16 4:49 PM
The Quinnipiac University surveys, released on Tuesday, show Mrs. Clinton leading Mr. Trump by one percentage point in Pennsylvania and Florida and trailing him by four points in Ohio.

The polls do offer some support for Mr. Sanders’s argument to stay in the race, as he outperforms Mrs. Clinton in head-to-head matchups against Mr. Trump in the three states. The senator from Vermont tops Mr. Trump by two points in Florida and Ohio and by six points in Pennsylvania.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 10, 16 6:15 PM
Trump is winning the day over elite objections? Sanders is embarrassing the felon? Finally the citizenry of this great land have awakened to understand there is an elite class, professional politicians, bankers, so-called educators, who are selling them down the river. Of this group, the most insidious bunch is the newsprint, broadcast, and social media who tailor the news to push the elite agenda by slowly indoctrinating the unsuspecting to love a far left liberal socialist ideology.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 11, 16 11:00 AM
What will it take to disabuse your kind who constantly parrots the old saw of "liberal" media when all major media outlets are corporate controlled? And by only six of them. News flash: there is no scintilla of socialist ideology in the business model of a corporation. Would a "liberal" outlet have promoted the Iraq war as the "liberal" NY Times did? And try and find the liberal bent in MSNBC now that Comcast has taken it over. You are right, though, when you say that media tailors the news ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 12:46 PM
June, if you can't see the liberal slant of MSNBC there is no hope for you Komrade.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 11, 16 7:46 PM
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........SHE LOSES AGAIN

May 10:

West Virginia Democratic Primary

Bernie Sanders 51% Winner

Hillary Clinton 36% Loser

Hooray Hooray for HHS. He wanted Trump to be the nominee

A new Quinnipiac poll tells the inconvenient truth. Trump and Hillary Clinton are tied in each of the three key swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida.
May 11, 16 7:40 AM appended by They call me
Sanders Today: Nominating Clinton would be ‘disaster’ for the nation
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 11, 16 7:40 AM
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WV: Hillary loses 2/3 of support from 2008
MAY 11, 2016 BY KYLE OLSON The American Mirror

Hillary Clinton is putting David Copperfield to shame with her vanishing voter trick.

Her base of support is disappearing right before our eyes, but unlike Copperfield, Clinton isn’t putting on an act.

On Tuesday, Clinton lost the West Virginia primary to 74-year-old socialist Bernie Sanders 51% to 36%.

That’s a stark contrast to 2008, when she trounced Barack ...more
May 11, 16 10:48 AM appended by Erin 27 E
dan, thank you for pointing out this artical, you were right. sorry
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 11, 16 10:48 AM
Former DOJ Official: email case against Hillary Clinton ‘stinks to high heaven’
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 11, 16 11:14 AM
Hard workin Penn. workers don't take kindly to thoughtless people who take the food off of their family tables, all the while trying to scam them with training for non-existent jobs. shame on Shillry . With da poll showing Bernie Sanders doing better against Trump than Clinton (and Sanders winning the West Virginia primary on Tuesday), I too am growing concerned about the “unraveling” of the Democratic Party!
By local 84 (353), riverhead on May 11, 16 1:11 PM
I guess the prospect of staying home all day and watching the soaps while collecting a welfare check did not appeal to the citizens of W.Va. Gee, it works so well for the Dems in the big cities. Those obstinate people must be clinging to their guns and religion.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 11, 16 1:19 PM
Americans are delusional, prudish religious nuts–especially when compared to the rest of world: Study

Kali Holloway, AlterNet
10 May 2016 at 00:01 ET


"The notion of hard work as a primary predictor of life success—another Protestant hand-me-down—remains big with Americans. Seventy-three percent of U.S. denizens polled by Pew in 2014 agreed that “hard work is very important for getting ahead in life,” a statement only 35 ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 11, 16 8:02 PM
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No Mr. Z ! , It is you that is you that is laying down mythical bull crap. The American Dream is alive and well, if you are willing to work hard enough, I am living proof. I love this country and thank God everyday for the opportunity it has provided for me and my family.

and yes so to break the news to you but “hard work is very important for getting ahead in life, Sadly something many have decided to ignore!

You cant fool me, I grew up in one of those B S places you speak ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 12, 16 12:19 AM
You make me laugh.

You speak as if everyone is as capable or intelligent as you. It does seem that others are far less arrogant, however. What you fail to grasp is that success here is in a microcosm. A Galapagos of sorts. In case you missed the question on your citizenship test, there are 49 other states in this Union.

By the way, are you a citizen, or truly "Undocumented"?
May 12, 16 7:06 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. Your post is exactly the type of conduct the article rails against. In fact, the numbers don't lie. The piece is well written, and accurate.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 12, 16 7:06 PM
A Must-Read from today's NYTimes:

The Governing Cancer of Our Time
by David Brooks


We live in a big, diverse society. There are essentially two ways to maintain order and get things done in such a society — politics or some form of dictatorship. Either through compromise or brute force. Our founding fathers chose politics.

Politics is an activity in which you recognize the simultaneous existence of different groups, interests and opinions. You try to find ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 1:40 PM
...A Must-Read from today's NY POST:

Bernie Wins Yet Another Primary...

Trump Ties Hill In Swing States...

She's Unraveling!...

Stop The Coronation !

By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 11, 16 4:18 PM
Glad to see that Trump is inhabiting the rather empty brains of the left. Get used to it, PRESIDENT TRUMP, again PRESIDENT TRUMP!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 11, 16 7:52 PM
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Top Pentagon Commanders: We’ll Quit If Trump Becomes Commander-In-Chief
ByColin Taylor
Posted on May 11
Donald Trump spent much of the recent “foreign policy debate” declaring how he’d make our military great and criticizing President Obama for “weakening it” (even though we still spend more than any other nation on defense spending,) and pronouncing ridiculous bravados of how we will will become a “strong nation” again while actively ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 2:04 PM
Please cite the names of the currently active pentagon commanders who are threatening to quit. If you can't I'll take it as typical left wing propaganda
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on May 11, 16 2:40 PM
And only a right-winger would think they'd be stupid enough to go on the record.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 4:22 PM
June Bugs Source for this nonsenses was the Ultra-liberal Daily Beast 12.16.15 8:00 PM ET

Pentagon Officers: We Quit if Trump Wins by ( wait for it ... )

Nancy A. Youssef lol

Nancy A. Youssef Born to Egyptian parents, Youssef is a first-generation native to the Washington, D.C. area. She speaks fluent Arabic.

Youssef began her career in journalism ( wait for it ... )

at the Baltimore Sun

She then moved on to work for the Detroit Free Press.... ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 11, 16 4:37 PM
good gumshoe work there fellas, seems very obvious who the trump haters are !

By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 11, 16 5:31 PM
June: quoting such inane leftist drivel negates whatever modicum of credibility you may have possessed.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 11, 16 7:58 PM
You're right --the biography of a journalist reporting on a situation is totally relevant to the story, and negates it if that journalist somehow doesn't pass your nativist muster. You embarass yourself, Joe.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 8:10 PM
So why not just drop little Paulie Thugman and just get all your news from Al Jazeera ?

Or do you already?
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 12, 16 5:02 PM

NewYorkTimes
PaulKrugman
RepublicanParty
Asked on Thursday whether the United States needed to pay its debts in full, or whether he could negotiate a partial repayment, Mr. Trump told the cable network CNBC, “I would borrow, knowing that if the economy crashed, you could make a deal.”

He added, “And if the economy was good, it was good. So, therefore, you can’t lose.”
Paul Krugman isn’t under any illusions that calling Donald Trump ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 4:21 PM
any thoughts of your own June? Your C&P blizzard of leftist propaganda is rather pitiful.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 11, 16 8:01 PM
and quite long winded
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on May 11, 16 8:15 PM
Apparently the postings are too long for the Trump supporters with only short attention spans. (You know, the ones he said he loves so much. I think he called them the "poorly educated".) That's the pity, bigfresh.
As for thoughts of my own, today the op-eds that mirrored some of them were especially good, so C&Ping them saved my having to compose.
Most importantly, all of us deserve and should desire a dignified president representing us in the world. Not an embarrassment or a danger. ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 11, 16 8:58 PM
Oh please Junebug give it a rest already as if Hillary is some sort of model citizen? Your post reeks of playing the woman card to the hilt, yet the real rapist and child abuser is her husband . Why do you conveniently omit those facts ? Some of us want a businessman who does not care to know how a statest bloated government works. It's time to put America back to work again and get off the couch. Enough with the handouts, we're going to be self reliant again people are going to respect us again, ...more
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on May 11, 16 9:48 PM
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WG: I am not a Hillary Clinton supporter, never mentioned her, so wtf are you talking about?
I did enjoy the magical thinking you display. You're not looking for a president, you're looking for a super-hero which reveals that you, like Trump, have no understanding of the Constitution. Donald Trump will no more solve your problems than Donald Duck, so prepare for the worst b/c that's what you'll get in the unlikely event he is elected.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 12, 16 9:15 PM
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(Reuters) Donald Trump’s support has surged and he is now running nearly even with Democrat Hillary Clinton among likely U.S. voters,, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Wednesday.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 12, 16 12:48 AM
Jeez June, stick to the C&P, your post is nothing more than insults and ravings.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 12, 16 6:03 AM
Federal judge rules Obamacare is being funded unconstitutionally

May 12.2016 David G. Savage, Los Angeles Times


A federal judge ruled for House Republicans on Thursday in their suit against President Obama and declared his administration is unconstitutionally spending money to reimburse health insurers without obtaining an appropriation from Congress.

By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 12, 16 4:49 PM
It should be a open and shut case. Obama spent money he was not authorized to spend... The entire thing should have been ruled unconstitutional, but we are stuck in a liberal cesspool.

When in the last 7 and a half years has the constitution ment anything.

We already know that Obama will shop it to one of his new hires in the Federal judiciary and the ruling will be changed. We no longer have rule of law as the judiciary is now just a liberal politburo.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 12, 16 4:55 PM
to 27dan:

Shameful. A continuation of Justice Collyer's one-woman attempt to overturn Obamacare by allowing members of Congress to sue the executive branch over the interpretation of a statute - - - something that has never occurred in the history of our republic.

The suit will, of course, be dismissed by the Appellate Court for lack of standing, The constitution specifies the means by which Congress can challenge a president's interpretation of a law - - - it's called "legislation".

Not ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 12, 16 11:01 PM
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This is what happens when Congress passes a bill without reading it first.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 13, 16 1:26 AM
HHS I am still waiting for you to explain to everyone ? Just who is Jeffery Epstein ? And go on the record along with Mr Z , June Bug and Mets Fan on what is your opinion of this scandal ???

POLITICS
Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known
By Malia Zimmerman Published May 13, 2016 FoxNews

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 13, 16 5:08 PM
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“Why would a former president associate with a man like that?"
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 13, 16 5:14 PM
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to joe hampton:

Jeffrey Epstein is a financier and convicted sex offender with whom Bill Clinton was acquainted. In the complete absence of proof (as usual), the extreme Right-Wing has implied that Bill was complicit in Epstein's crimes by virtue of this acquaintanceship - - - and - - - even more preposterously - - - that Hillary Clinton is diminished by being married to the man whom the extreme Right-Wing libelously defames. Definitively, the extreme Right-Wing doesn't see even this ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 13, 16 9:20 PM
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Jeffrey Epstein is a convicted sex offender with whom Bill Clinton was acquainted

Do you ever stop to listen to what comes out of your mouth ?
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 16, 16 10:38 PM
'Self-funded' Donald Trump preparing to seek big-donor money

By JULIE BYKOWICZ
May. 13, 2016 5:11 PM EDT


LAS VEGAS (AP) — The billionaire presidential candidate who prides himself on paying his own way and bashed his competition for relying on political donors now wants their money — and lots of it.

Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, recently hired a national finance chairman, scheduled his first fundraiser and is on the ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 14, 16 12:22 AM
Hillary got paid 300K for speeches to Wall Street firms.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 14, 16 6:38 AM
Still trying to justify Trump's hypocrisy.

It'd be funny, were it not so pathetic.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 14, 16 6:59 AM
“Why would a former president associate with a man like that?"
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 14, 16 10:46 AM
Let's hope the association was innocent, but, while the "optics" aren't good, until any revelations to the contrary, it is mere innuendo. What isn't "innuendo" (and scandalous in my book), is why would any of the Trump supporters on this thread admit to support of a man like that?
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 14, 16 12:07 PM
Innocent ??? ROTFLOL

OMG Are you that blind

The f writing is on the wall in capitol letters for god sake... Pleaseeee woman
May 14, 16 10:41 PM appended by joe hampton
"Morning Joe" Laughs At Clinton Camp's Claim FBI Investigation Is Actually A "Security Inquiry" Posted on May 13, 2016 FBI Director James Comey says he is "not familiar" with the term "security inquiry," which is how the Clinton campaign characterized the investigation into Hillary's homebrew email server. Mika read the director's statement: "We're conducting an investigation. That is the Bureau's business. That is what we do." Needless to say, the idea that the Federal Bureau of Investigations had to reiterate to Clinton that they are conducting an investigation, brought Joe to laugh. "That sort of undercuts the talking point from her supporters over the past nine months," Joe observed.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 14, 16 10:41 PM
joe just who are you and how do you know thinks before the rest of us all the time ??

I never herd the name jeffrey epstein anywhere before today except here from you for the last month

but now all of a sudden. bam! i herd people on tv talking about his relationship with bill clinton 3 times in the last 24 hours

what amazing for site you posses . really amazing !
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 16, 16 5:24 PM
i have noticed things like this before with you and its spooky
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 16, 16 5:26 PM
Easy Erin... I just pay attention to what Hat Head, Z and June get the most annoyed by and thats when I know I am on the write track ;)
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 16, 16 6:04 PM
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Didn't Epstein pass a polygraph test when questioned about his knowledge regarding the age of the "girls" in question?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 18, 16 8:34 PM
erin27 have you not read a newspaper or watched news events over the past few years?!? epstein has served time in prison for his perverted enjoyment activities and clinton was at his (epstein)s estate on some island in the caribbean when he fell early in the am and broke or sprained his ankle coming from another area of the estate. suspect??? since clinton was on many many trips with epstein one has to conclude that He knew what was going on and chose to remain on the flights, vacations, etc. ...more
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on May 16, 16 6:19 PM
Democrats are looking to use "moral" issues against Trump after claiming the President's private life is his business.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 16, 16 10:54 PM
Hillary Clinton keeps losing. So how come she's winning?


Rather simple, Our massive national mainstream media (newspaper, magazine, cable news, Network news) controls the message and is, on a daily basis, not covering the news on Hillary Clinton, and on a daily basis, working 24-7 at casting others in a very negative light.

It's not just unethical - it's criminal.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 16, 16 10:34 PM
From Clinton's 1996 State of the Union address:

But there are some areas that the federal government should not leave and should address and address strongly. One of these areas is the problem of illegal immigration. After years of neglect, this administration has taken a strong stand to stiffen the protection of our borders. We are increasing border controls by 50 percent. We are increasing inspections to prevent the hiring of illegal immigrants. And tonight, I announce I will sign an ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 17, 16 2:47 PM
Dems' new fear: Sanders revolt could upend Democratic convention

(CNN)Sen. Barbara Boxer, a veteran of Democratic politics, says she never saw anything quite like this revolt against Hillary before.

Loud cursing, shouting, obscene gestures and vile insults were all on display over the weekend as supporters of Bernie Sanders turned the Nevada State Democratic Convention into protest.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 17, 16 8:04 PM

WASSERMAN FEELS THE HEAT...
DEM FEAR: Revolt could upend Philly convention...
Tensions erupt...
Dangerous divisions...
Sanders Vows To Fight Until 'The Last Ballot Is Cast'...
Delegate Count...
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 18, 16 1:24 PM
Oh the pure joy of watching the "all inclusive left" implode while running two crotchety old white people for the nation's top office. Bravo! Bravo! Bravo!
Bern it down, Democrats, Bern it down!!
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 18, 16 1:27 PM
FEINSTEIN: COULD BE '68 ALL OVER AGAIN...
Bernie Accepts FOXNEWS Debate...
Hillary Stalling Trying To Just Coast To Philly
BERGDAHL COURT MARTIAL PUSHED TO NEXT YEAR TO AVOID OPTICS
Mika Brzezinski Calls For DNC Chair To Step Down Over Bias Against Sanders
Sanders Campaign Manager: DNC Debbie Wasserman Schultz Is A "Divider"
Sanders Challenges DNC: "Open Your Doors," "Let The People In"
Cenk Uygur: "CNN Never Showed You " What Really Happened At Nevada Dem Convention
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 18, 16 4:45 PM

Trump turns up the heat on the Clintons tonight when he raises the specter of 'RAPE' when describing Bill Clinton's past history with women. The bombshell is dropped on FOXNEWS 'HANNITY' during an hour-long interview, set to air at 10 PM

Only took someone 30 years to state the obvious huh HHS
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 18, 16 5:58 PM
dan, thanks for the link I just watched the video you told me about

"13 minutes devoted to hillary clinton's shifting position "

on you tube and holy good god what an amazing collection of indisputable flat out lies. i challenge mr hat or june to disagree
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 18, 16 6:50 PM
How about a few minutes devoted to Trump's bigotry?

He settled lawsuits over it. Twice. But, according to the prospective liar in chief, he never settles lawsuits. We have that quote on film. The Trump Management Corporation was caught red handed not once but twice quoting different terms to African American, Puerto Rican, and other prospective minority tenants in Brooklyn, Queens, as well as Staten Island, and were even caught lying that rentals were unavailable.

As far as the ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 18, 16 9:24 PM
They will disagree, liberals just don't care how wrong their candidates are! They re elected Marion Barry after he was caught on camera smoking crack with a hooker!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 18, 16 7:21 PM
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By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 18, 16 8:29 PM
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By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 18, 16 11:13 PM
And here's where you come up short as usual. Rashida Moore carried on a two year relationship with Barry while she was an aspiring model. Investigation showed he had no idea she was a prostitute when he was invited to a hotel room by her.

He did not get convicted of solicitation, as it wreaked of entrapment to the jury. The one thing he was guilty of was accepting an invitation from an old flame.

You really don't investigate anything, do you? You just take in what you want ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 19, 16 4:09 AM
really who was policing comments this morning mother theresa
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 19, 16 6:17 PM
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I told you so:

Past Kansas governors rebuke Brownback and lawmakers: 'They should be ashamed'
Former Republican Gov. Mike Hayden and Democratic Gov. John Carlin call for change to state tax policy

Posted: May 14, 2016 - 4:06pm
By Jonathan Shorman

WICHITA — Former Republican Gov. Mike Hayden on Saturday called on current Gov. Sam Brownback to admit his tax policy had failed and said Republicans should be ashamed of the state’s financial situation.
May 19, 16 8:03 PM appended by Mr. Z
@ marlin: Right wing "green house gassing, money grubbing, seal clubbing, oil drilling, bible thumping, right to life, lethal injecting hypocrites" have done more damage than we can possibly account for.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 19, 16 8:03 PM
Entrapment? He was taped SMOKING CRACK!!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 20, 16 5:34 AM
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Clinton rape accuser blasts 'biased' NBC anchor


Mitchell’s comments on Trump’s “rape” reference came on the heels of a weekend New York Times story on Trump’s treatment of women. Since its publication, the story has been widely condemned, one could even say “discredited” by the very women quoted by the Times’ reporters, who say their words were shamelessly twisted to fit the newspaper’s pre-ordained story line.

Trump responded ...more
May 20, 16 7:20 PM appended by 27dan
Any one under 40 should not take my word for this or Mr Zs please do your own research on this subject and then ask yourself - How could any women support this couple
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 20, 16 7:20 PM
He also has a Master's degree in chemistry.

Most of you can't even type proper English...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 20, 16 8:53 PM
Yes and Ted Kaczynski had a PhD in Mathematics and went to Harvard ... so
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 20, 16 11:32 PM
How can you support a candidate who has ties to organized crime?

It's the pot calling the kettle black.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 22, 16 10:56 AM
Lewis Black - Republicans and Democrats Working Together
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 18, 16 9:36 PM
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By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 19, 16 5:53 AM
Egyptian , French ,Greek officials as well as Trump and Hillary say flight 804 was likely to be terrorism.

Obama say no no no it is to early to tell , lol
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 20, 16 5:08 AM
Shooting Reported at the White House While Obama Out Golfing

Now what are the odds of that .
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 20, 16 6:07 PM
The Hill, May 20, 2016, 03:54 pm
Army of Sanders supporters fuming over Wasserman Schultz

Conservatives and progressives do not agree on much,but is OBVIOUS to everyone, that Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Clinton campaign rigged the process.

It's amazing it has taken this long for the outrage to surface.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 20, 16 6:47 PM
The specter of The Donald leading them to a crushing defeat in November has unhinged the extreme Right-Wingers on this thread. They are trodding - - - frenetically - - - on each other's heels in their eagerness to smear our president-to-be and her husband with novel, substance-free defamations, pausing only to praise the fatuous lies posted by their colleagues. One can only hope that their unbearable stress is somewhat relieved by this odd, onanistic practice.

For the rest of us, the ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 21, 16 10:32 AM
to Captn America:" [E]motionally charged scare tactics"! Dear god, if you think that my comments are "emotionally charged", you must have the body temperature of a lizard. (Oh, wait, you're an extremist Right-Winger and we MAY be talking about spending YOUR money. Never mind.)

Since we are now in agreement that Lee Zeldin has said nothing about the federal programs for the 1st District that he would abort or eschew in the name of ideological fidelity, perhaps it is time for him to do so. ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 21, 16 7:08 PM
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Baaaaaaa

ROTFLOL
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 21, 16 7:13 PM
PRO-HILLARY MEDIA CIRCLE WAGONS AGAINST RAPE CLAIMS

By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 22, 16 10:00 AM

Sanders Feud With Dem Leadership Heats Up...
Wasserman must go!
Dels Ready For Fight...
DOWD: Weakend at Bernie's...
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 21, 16 7:13 PM

PATRIOTS AT THE GATE: AMERICANS PREPARING FOR BATTLE AGAINST GOVT...The Washington Post
WASH POST POLL HIDES: TRUMP +2...The Washington Examiner
HILLARY: WHATEVER...AP
WEAKEND AT BERNIE'S...Maureen Dowd MAY 21, 2016
Army of Sanders supporters fuming over Wasserman Schultz May 20, 16, 3:54 pm
Hillary Clinton: I Will Be The Nominee, "That's Already Done In Effect, There's No Way I Won't Be"
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 22, 16 9:39 AM
Hillary: " I am going to put Bill in charge"
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 22, 16 10:06 AM
Vienna (AFP) - Austrians voted Sunday in a presidential runoff which could usher in the European Union's first far-right leader, fueled by anti-immigrant anger over Europe's refugee crisis.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 22, 16 10:22 AM
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This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 23, 16 2:45 PM
The Above Comment Was REMOVED and Banished to Phil Phil Land
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 23, 16 8:38 PM
to joe hampton, They call me, Undocumented Democrat & 27dan:

Hey, if posting "citations" to opinions published by extreme Right-Wing propaganda organs and references to articles about gun-nuts being ready to take up arms against the government makes you happy, keep on strokin'!

(We continue to wait in vain for one reference to a respected journal or one objective FACT to support any of your fantasies.)

As for the Honorable Lee, now that the electorate has had the opportunity ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 22, 16 10:33 AM
America ? I guess you missed this...

UPDATE: Four Arrested In Connection With Stabbings Outside Hampton Bays Bar; One Victim In 'Grave Condition' ... SHP
May 22, 16 10:51 AM appended by joe hampton
And I cant help but point out that the citations you are referring to seem to have come from your beloved NY Times, The Washington Post and the AP...Hardly propaganda there Colonel Mustard
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 22, 16 10:51 AM
to joe hampton:

Will you fanatics never learn that your grammar school efforts at misdirection are alway futile? To wit:

The Washington Post article was the one about the gun-nuts. Other main stream articles that you and your colleagues cite were innocuous reports of Democrat Party squabbling. (Did you insert them to try to bulk up your only smear?) The one novel defamation that you could come up with (a decidedly thin one) is the WND's attempt to resurrect a long-discredited ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 22, 16 11:39 AM


... I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time--never. These allegations are false.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 23, 16 8:53 PM
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I don't get it, It has always seemed to me the Clinton's are "Stained" candidates

We need to try something new not go back to these scamming, lying, self centered retreads
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 23, 16 8:56 PM
sorry mr. hat but i fear it is over for your point of view. it seems obvious you are swimming up stream of public opinion and for you the proverbial sharks smell blood in the water. you risk your reputation keeping up your fantasy of a prez hillary.

obama has over reached big time and history must correct this partisan nightmare of the last 8 years we are still living through.

its ok, you will see, we are going to make america great again !
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 23, 16 9:57 PM

BTW, on the subject of rigging, Trump said now that he's the GOP nominee, he doesn't care that the primaries are rigged, something he was whining about early on.
Now the climate change "denier' is all verklempt over it b/c it's affecting his golf course. Even a fellow Republican refers to him as "diabolical".

2016
Trump acknowledges climate change — at his golf course
The billionaire, who called global warming a hoax, warns of its dire effects in his company's application ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 23, 16 3:06 PM
BTW, on the subject of global warming, Bill Clinton did not care about his carbon footprint all those times The Commander-in-briefs
ditched his secret service detail to take a ride on Jeffery Epstein's "Lolita express"
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 23, 16 8:48 PM
FBI INVESTIGATING TERRY MCAULIFFE...

Records show more than 100 donors contributed to both Clinton foundation and McAuliffe campaign...
CALIFORNIA IS EVERYTHING!
PAPER: WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE HILLARY?
Women weary: 'I'm NOT with her'...
R.A.P.E.: Trump Ad Features Juanita Broaddrick...
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 23, 16 9:03 PM
Juanita Broaddrick ‎ @atensnut
I was 35 years old when Bill Clinton, Ark. Attorney General raped me and Hillary tried to silence me. I am now 73....it never goes away.
2:42 PM - 6 Jan 2016

Lisa Myers (NBC), Michael Isikoff (Newsweek), and Christopher Hitchens (Salon and others) are left leaning award winning journalists who investigated Juanita Broaddrick's charges against Bill Clinton and found them credible.

Myers spent a year on the investigation and interviewed ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 23, 16 9:10 PM
to joe hampton, Undocumented Democrat, Erin 27E & They call me:

Sweet Jesus!

Bill Clinton isn't running for president.

Your incessant innuendos and implications disparaging the Clintons (in the unalloyed absence of fact) serve no purpose but to further expose your mindless prejudice.

For once in your lives - - - POST SOME SUBSTANCE. Your c*rcle j*rk has long ago become as tedious as it is distasteful.

By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 24, 16 12:27 AM
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Substance you say? Here's some from the prospective liar in chief:

Trump acknowledges climate change — at his golf course

The billionaire, who called global warming a hoax, warns of its dire effects in his company's application to build a sea wall.

By Ben Schreckinger
05/23/16 05:35 AM EDT


Trump calls global warming a hoax, but is seeking permission to build a sea wall to protect his golf course in Ireland from “global warming and its effects."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 24, 16 6:04 AM
SALON : MONDAY, MAY 23, 2016 06:00 AM EDT

Donald Trump is going to win: This is why Hillary Clinton can’t defeat what Trump represents
People are rising up against neoliberal globalization.

Done Deal, Have a wonderful 8 years President Trump !
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 24, 16 8:26 AM
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Liar liar, pants on fire.

Just like the a***** running on the Republican ticket.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 24, 16 8:23 PM
The Hill said that She will put Bill in charge of "getting the economy going again"' The disbarred, impeached former POTUS is fair game.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 24, 16 5:55 AM

The Daily 202: Refusal to release tax returns emerging as a big liability for Trump

By James Hohmann May 23 at 8:03 AM
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 24, 16 6:02 AM
Please surly you know how this works by now, Release the Goldman Sachs speech transcripts and he will release the tax returns.

" I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."
May 24, 16 8:16 AM appended by They call me
Were not playing your game anymore pal.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 24, 16 8:16 AM
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Sure.

So you can take the speech out of context, and read whatever you think into what was said in her speech.

The "right wing" is like a freshly cleaned windshield...
May 24, 16 8:22 PM appended by Mr. Z
How about Trump skips the IRS returns, and just releases his IQ test results? That way he can prove he's not lying about it being "one of the highest" in that brainy tweet. That way, maybe he can prove he's telling the truth. Well, for once at least...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 24, 16 8:22 PM
24 May 2016 ABC News

Despite Hillary Clinton raising $264,973,438 the latest Washington Post-ABC News poll found Trump winning among registered voters by 46 to 44 percent over Clinton.

The Post seemed almost dismissive regarding the latest poll results. Instead of a big banner headline stating that Trump had made an 11-point gain on Clinton since their March poll to take his first presidential contest lead, the Post carried the story “below the fold” with a headline
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 24, 16 12:42 PM
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LIMBAUGH: TRUMP DOING JOB MEDIA WON'T DO...
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 24, 16 5:43 PM
Here Are 12 Of The Stupidest Things Ever To Come Out Of Donald Trump’s Mouth Hole
By Evan Hurst
June 16, 2015 3:45pm


Hurray, Donald Trump has finally given America Donald Trump what America Donald Trump has always wanted, by running for president of the United Trumps States of Trump America. Since he is perhaps the most ridiculous person to pretend to run for president since the last time he pretended to run for president, we figured why don’t we all sit around ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 24, 16 8:37 PM
Clinton Dictionary. Personal: Anything that may be embarrassing to my (or my family's) political aspirations.

"I'm worried about the public discovering my "personal" emails that show I've been bought and paid for by foreign interests."
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 25, 16 3:55 PM
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to They call me:

Quote:

"I'm worried about the public discovering my "personal" emails that show I've been bought and paid for by foreign interests."
-----------------------------------------------

You are despicable beyond description. Not satisfied with posting bogus innuendos and implications regarding the Clintons, you have, with the above "quote", descended to the abyss of depravity - - - the conscious fabrication of statements that never issued from either ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 25, 16 5:39 PM
Emails Add to Hillary Clinton’s Central Problem: Voters Just Don’t Trust Her
N Y Times By AMY CHOZICKMAY 25, 2016
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 26, 16 8:25 AM
The suspect is always the last one to be interviewed. They interview everyone else first to gather the most amount of information.

After she's arrested here's how she will answer questions: I don't remember. I can't recall. I have no recollection of that.

Hill and Bill, the new Bonnie and Clyde......
May 25, 16 11:45 PM appended by They call me
The Clinton campaign "has not responded to questions regarding this report." Even they are at a loss for words.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 25, 16 11:45 PM
Yeah, just like Reagan when he set the precedent during Iran-Contra.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 26, 16 5:29 AM
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I guess you and the banned one Phil Motyka have conveniently forgotten about Eric Holder and Fast and Furious

Attorney General Eric Holder’s announced resignation comes right after a judge ruled that the Department of Justice can’t delay the release of certain “Fast and Furious” documents — and that’s no coincidence, said the sister of killed border agent Brian Terry.

Terry was working as a border patrol agent in 2010 when he was killed by a ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 26, 16 8:15 AM
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thats weird someone said Phil Motyka the banished man snuck back on board ? Oh well guess they were mistaking.

TRUMP 2016
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 26, 16 6:01 PM
Hey dopey, Reagan set the PRECEDENT.

No wonder you'd vote for Trump. You can't hardly read.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 26, 16 8:39 PM
is what hillay has done as bad as what martha stewart did when she went to
prison ?
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on May 26, 16 8:31 AM
Announced today that Trump's economic advisers are none other than trickle-down supply siders, Arthur Laffer, Larry Kudlow, and Stephen Moore. How many of Trump's followers. who regard him as their savior, will have any idea that these are the architects of the long-since discredited and unmitigated disaster known as trickle-down economics, and that Trump's association with this unholy troika means this flim-flamming gang of thieves intends to perpetuate their impoverishment?
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 26, 16 12:23 PM
Not sure where you live June, but our local economy runs on trickle down. Have you ever worked for a poor man?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 26, 16 7:18 PM
Larry Kudlow is the man, sounds like a great team !

Lets get busy making America Great Again !

Now If only we could get Steve Forbes and Newt on board

LETS ROLL !
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 26, 16 12:40 PM
To HHS, PHIL, Z, JUNE, TURKEY, METS:

MSNBC's Brzezinski: "I Don't Want To Be The One To Say This," But It Looks Like Hillary Straight Up Lied About Email Server

Have a wonderful Memorial Day Weekend.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 27, 16 10:35 AM
Like it was not... obvious a long time ago.
Like we were not been saying this long ago.
But the emails are a small thing compared to the real issue-
Clinton Cash
and the potential (probable) treason involved... right Hat Head ?
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 27, 16 10:45 AM
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to joe hampton:

Take your medication, joe, your mania is showing.

The facts STILL have not changed, Mika Brezinski's OPINION notwithstanding. Andrea Mitchell, a more senior correspondent to Ms. Brezinski, who also appeared on the TV show on which Ms. Brezinski made her assertion, responded that, in her OPINION, she could not agree.

Here, joe, let me try to help you out:
------------------------------------
"fact: something that truly exists or happens : something ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 27, 16 12:34 PM
To HHS, I Guess NBCs Chuck Todd is just making unfounded assertions as well, lol you are comical to say the least and your characterization of Andrea Mitchell's appearance on Morning Joe was very disingenuous, as you left out much of her commentary on the Clinton's and there trail of dishonesty, stating the viewers will have to make up there own mind.

Chuck Todd: "Convenience" Was Not The Reason Hillary Had A Private Server
Posted By Tim Hains
On Date May 27, 2016

MSNBC's ...more
May 27, 16 3:55 PM appended by They call me
Finally... Even the Clinton boot licker's and Poodles like HHS are forced to acknowledge the truth that has been obvious all along... Hillary wanted to be able to hide and control all of her emails to avoid FOIA requests, and not have to comply with Government records laws. Its obvious that It was all one big conspiracy from the beginning to avoid and violate Federal Laws in regard to record keeping and Freedom of Information. It also allowed her to delete more emails than she turned in when she was finally caught. Unless the FBI was able to recover those emails that she illegally deleted we may never know what kind of corruption was involved in them. We know for sure she didn't go to that much trouble to avoid people seeing emails about Chelea's wedding dress. Crooked Hillary has been lying since the first day, and every day since, and even now that she is caught red handed she is still LYING.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 27, 16 3:55 PM
Michio Kaku: US has the worst educational system known to science
May 28, 16 3:59 AM appended by Mr. Z
It's official. Trump is an idiot: Donald Trump tells Californians there is no drought
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 3:59 AM
to They call me:

Your ultimate post manifests that, despite my generous attempt to alert you to the essential difference between fact and opinion (by posting the ACTUAL DEFINITIONS), you still don't get it. (Cf. Chuck Todd & Tim Hains & YOU, supra) In addition, please explain how my reference to Andrea Mitchell was "disingenuous". Did she, or did she not, say that she did NOT agree with Mika Brezinski's opinion?

"My" OPINION is that Hillary chose to use a private email account ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 27, 16 4:56 PM
Brzezinski "I really don't want to be the one to say this, but I gotta tell you, this is really hard to believe, it feels like she is lying straight out,"

Mika: and in San Jose California NBC news chief foreign affairs corespondent and host of Andrea Mitchell reports, Andrea Mitchell, Andrea thanks for getting up early for us.

Mitchell: you bet

Mika: " um the first interview we showed was the one you did with her. and she says Time and time and time and time and time ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 28, 16 5:35 PM
to They call me:

You left out some text:

Mika Brzezinski:

"It feels like she’s lying straight out."
---------------------

Andrea Mitchell [on the same show] ... was asked ... “is she lying?”
-------------------------
Andrea Mitchell:

"I CAN'T SAY THAT ..."*
--------------------------

The FACTS remain UNCHANGED.

Clear enough for you, They call me?

Ask joe to share his meds.

Have a ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on May 28, 16 10:11 PM
It seems you would find a way to vouch for Hannibal Lecter if he was running on the right party line
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 29, 16 2:43 AM
Drumpf = Wanker

Refuses to debate with Bernie Sanders.

Who's a coward now?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 27, 16 9:16 PM
Why would Trump waste his time debating an irrelevant , washed up Socialist? It would be a kick to see Trump expose the Democrat Party for what it is though, champion of the Freestuffers.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 28, 16 7:24 AM
Because it proves he's a flip flop artist who claims to be some tough guy, and he consistently loses polls to Sanders.

He's chicken s*it.
May 28, 16 8:12 AM appended by Mr. Z
"Capitalism works for most things, but some things should be off limits to the profit motive. Health care, prisons, I would say covering the elections, the elections themselves... Education..."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 8:12 AM
P.S. It's official. Trump is an idiot: Donald Trump tells Californians there is no drought. And, he's a pathological liar.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 8:13 AM
Yeah, you're probably right. A "good man" would vote Politifact's pathological liar of the year to the White House. While you're at it, you could just as well be stupid enough to elect Lex Luthor president.

Via Politico:

"Many were straight-up wrong, such as his claim that the United States has a “$500 billion a year trade deficit with China,” which has been debunked over and over by fact checkers, and his statement that he never settles lawsuits, when in fact ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 9:08 AM
10 Things Trump Supporters Are Too Stupid To Realize

March 12, 2016
By Matt Terzi

Trump Supporters Aren’t The Sharpest Tools In The Shed
But they sure are tools…

Enough is enough, Trump supporters. We’re done! America has had enough of you. As Hillary Clinton said, “¡Basta!” You refuse to listen to reason, you refuse to absorb any actual facts, and the low-information voter routine got old well before it even began. So I’m ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 9:23 AM
And I rest my case.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 9:38 AM
anti America vs pro America capitalism vs socialism Bigger government vs smaller government pro 2A vs anti 2A professional politician vs successful business man non productive member of society vs job creator sucking on the government teat for decades vs self sufficient right Mr Z Hillary is the better candidate NOT
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 28, 16 11:53 AM
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I reiterate:

Michio Kaku: US has the worst educational system known to science
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 2:31 PM
So this week we've learned that Trump thinks you cannot be "great" unless you're rich, and that climate change is a myth.
Partial list of enterprises and contractors that have discontinued their associations with the sorry excuse for a human being and national embarrassment:
ESPN, PGA, Nascar, Macy's and the company that makes his clothes for Macy's, perfume retailer Perfumania, Serta Mattresses, Farouk Systems, NBC Universal, Univision, Televisa, contracts with the City of New ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 28, 16 1:25 PM
Climate change is only a hoax if you don't need a seawall for your golf course in Ireland.

Trump is beyond hypocrite, beyond liar, and he passed full of s*** years ago.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 28, 16 2:27 PM
A man less deserving of the goodies of life I can't think of--oh wait, maybe Dylan Roof or Ted Kaczynski or Adolf Hitler..... Yesterday Drumpf was belittling the (Mexican-heritage) judge who is presiding over a class-action suit against him. Fingers crossed the three criminal offenses that could be brought against him because of that materialize. Now check out this little sugar plum, and check out how he perceives "helping", and see if you still think this SOB gives a flying fig about you or anyone ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 28, 16 4:19 PM
Jealousy and class envy will get you nowhere in life
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 28, 16 5:05 PM
1 percent of the US population has 35.6 percent of all private wealth, which is more than the bottom 95 percent combined.

The 400 wealthiest individuals on the Forbes 400 list have more wealth than the bottom 150 million Americans.

@ UD: Neither does stupidity.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 1:34 AM
Good for the 1%!!! How is this a problem? A REAL problem , not just envy?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 29, 16 6:50 AM
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If you have to ask that, you are part of the problem. As a self proclaimed conservative, we should dose you with your own medicine and tell you to be self sufficient and figure it out for yourself. But, I'm a nice guy, so here's a couple clues. And, don't forget to go eat cake...


In 2010, average CEO pay for an S&P 500 company was $10.8 million, a 27 percent increase over 2009. The gap between CEO and average U.S. worker pay is 325 to 1, up from 42 to 1 in 1980.

The corporate ...more
May 29, 16 7:52 AM appended by Mr. Z
Between 1983 and 2009, over 40 percent of all wealth gains flowed to the 1 percent and 82 percent of wealth gains went to the top 5 percent. The bottom 60 percent lost wealth over this same period. The middle class in America is sacrifice to such greed.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 7:52 AM
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And, since you like to b**** about the national debt, between 2001 and 2010, the United States borrowed over $1 trillion to give wealthy taxpayers with incomes over $250,000 substantial tax breaks, including the 2001 Bush era tax cuts.
May 29, 16 7:56 AM appended by Mr. Z
“We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can’t have both.” ~ Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Court Justice (1856-1941)
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 7:56 AM
We have a SPENDING problem Mr Z, not a revenue problem! How much do you expect the "wealthy" to pay? A hard percentage please.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 29, 16 1:54 PM
Your first premise is nothing more than class envy , a tired position you have used ad nauseum. Good for the CEOs, I have no issue with someone making more than I do.
Blaming the 1 % for legally using lobbyists is still nothing more than more of the same.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 29, 16 1:59 PM
The only thing which is "ad nauseam" is your gross failure to budge from what you have been corn fed to believe, and fail to think.

We have been over this time and again. You just can't get it through your thick [expletive deleted] skull that all the changes in the last forty years or so have decimated the middle class, and created an elite class which controls our government via the fortunes they have amassed for themselves. Mostly printed out of thin air, mind you.

The fact ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 2:52 PM
The only thing which is "ad nauseam" is your gross failure to budge from what you have been corn fed to believe, and fail to think.

We have been over this time and again. You just can't get it through your thick [expletive deleted] skull that all the changes in the last forty years or so have decimated the middle class, and created an elite class which controls our government via the fortunes they have amassed for themselves. Mostly printed out of thin air, mind you.

The fact ...more
May 29, 16 2:52 PM appended by Mr. Z
“The man of great wealth owes a peculiar obligation to the state because he derives special advantages from the mere existence of government.” ~Theodore Roosevelt, U.S. President (1858-1919)
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 2:52 PM
P.S. Even if you won't ever listen to history and reason, maybe you'll listen to Plutarch.

“An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics.”

~Plutarch, ancient Greek biographer (c. 46 – 120 CE)
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 3:12 PM
All legal June. Quite unlike Hilary's play for pay via the Clinton Foundation. Trump wins in a landslide!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 28, 16 4:57 PM
When you lose Chuck Todd

NBC political director Chuck Todd provided an analysis on Friday of his interview with Hillary Clinton about a recent inspector general report about her emails and concluded that the “only logical reason” for her to use a private email system was to skirt federal records laws.
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 28, 16 4:58 PM
It is laughable that Drumpf's supporters think as president he would have the power to do any of the things he bleats about. So in the dark are they that they have no idea of the limited power of the presidency. In fact, Drumpf himself probably has no idea based on the already shocking ignorance he's demonstrated. Not to worry, though. The actual ruling class will let the circus continue which lines a lot of media (and other) pockets, but has a built-in expiration date after which they will ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 28, 16 9:46 PM
Whats laughable is the way you look in those partisan goggles your wearing. There is no one more in the dark than you if you think we would let you appoint three more Justices to the Supreme Court like Kagan or Sotomayor... But thanks for playing

Trump 2016
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 29, 16 12:14 AM
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Your partisan comment makes no sense whatsoever when millions of Republicans find Trump dangerous and abhorrent. As for the SC, I take it you like the Roberts' court Citizens United ruling that has legalized bribery and in the process wiped out the voices of the American people, not to mention the repeal of the Voting Rights Act which further diminishes democracy. What is it about progress that so scares you wingers? Go down the list--8 hour work days, child labor laws, economic help and health ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on May 29, 16 8:07 PM
Voting should be done on election day, If you want I would be fine with making it a holiday so everyone could get there. But everyone should register and vote by free will.

This early voting nonsense is a sham. These churches lining up buses at churches in black neighborhoods and going to an early voting facility after the pastor fuels them up with rhetoric for an hour. and than back to the church grounds for a celebratory barbecue when they are finished. sorry but that kind of thing should ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on May 30, 16 10:12 PM
Internal Trump University records must be released, federal judge rules

The Boston Globe
By Tom Hamburger

A federal judge has ordered the release of internal Trump University documents in an ongoing lawsuit against the company, including ‘‘playbooks’’ that advised sales personnel how to market high-priced courses on getting rich through real estate.

The Friday ruling, in which Judge Gonzalo Curiel cited heightened public interest in presumptive ...more
May 29, 16 1:22 AM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, where can we find a "Fish Delight"?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 1:22 AM
..... Me and my husband Bill (who I would put in charge of the economy) are above the rules
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on May 29, 16 4:41 PM
“The greatest country, the richest country, is not that which has the most capitalists, monopolists, immense grabbings, vast fortunes, with its sad, sad soil of extreme, degrading, damning poverty, but the land in which there are the most homesteads, freeholds — where wealth does not show such contrasts high and low, where all men have enough — a modest living— and no man is made possessor beyond the sane and beautiful necessities.”

~Walt Whitman
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 29, 16 6:04 PM
Judge Presiding Over University Case Is Member Of La Raza...
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 2, 16 10:32 AM
by JOHN FUND May 27, 2016 12:00 PM

The persistence and growth of Hillary’s e-mail scandal concerns party leaders. Smart Democrats began dusting off copies of their Plan B for the 2016 fall campaign this week. They were prompted by a devastating report from Department of Justice inspector general, who found that “significant security risks” were raised by Hillary Clinton’s decision to use a private e-mail server at the State Department.

By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 31, 16 12:16 AM
Quoting a poet to back up your class envy position Mr Z ? Who would determine what "enough" is? What are "the sane and beautiful necessities"? Human beings are competitive by nature , government has no business stifling us > That's where the liberals blow it.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on May 31, 16 5:54 AM
Nope. Where you "blow it", is that for decades under a progressive tax system there was still a class which built mansions and estates. There was great innovation and we made technological leaps almost beyond imagination. No one was "stifled". Do you recall NASA putting men on the moon?

Your Reaganite middle class destructing argument is quite tired, old, and proven wrong not once, not twice, but THREE times in American history. Most recently in 2008. You are "dead wrong".
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 31, 16 6:42 AM
Nope. Where you "blow it", is that for decades under a progressive tax system there was still a class which built mansions and estates. There was great innovation and we made technological leaps almost beyond imagination. No one was "stifled". Do you recall NASA putting men on the moon?

Your Reaganite middle class destructing argument is quite tired, old, and proven wrong not once, not twice, but THREE times in American history. Most recently in 2008. You are "dead wrong".
May 31, 16 6:42 AM appended by Mr. Z
Any you MAY, just may want try being more well informed. Income inequality is not only at a thirty year high, but it has not been this high since 1928. Ignorance is no excuse in the Information Age. For you, or any of the lot who "Like" your comment. Thank you for consistently proving your ignorance. It makes America so great...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 31, 16 6:42 AM
Jeff Sessions Warns GOP Elites: "Accept The Will Of The American People," The Voters Chose Trump
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 31, 16 1:19 PM
Oh, and if you need PROOF, here are the hard, incontrovertible numbers. And, BTW, it seems to me it's the Federal Reserve who determines how much "wealth" there is. M2 as of today: 12.7 trillion dollars, and velocity is in the proverbial s*****r. The more money that has been printed, the more it has been "parked". Your cold, hard numbers are below, thanks to Piketty and Saez.

U.S. income inequality, on rise for decades, is now highest since 1928

By Drew DeSilver109 comments

President ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 31, 16 8:10 PM
Trump 2016 !
By They call me (2826), southampton on May 31, 16 9:07 PM
To put Mr Z's long post in simpler terms: 50% of all the wealth in the US is controlled by the number of passengers that fit on one G5.
By bird (829), Sag Harbor on May 31, 16 9:32 PM
It also seems Independents and Democrats, or a MAJORITY see it as a problem. Most Republicans do not. It seems they're still trying to saddle a dead horse. And I quote: "...the bottom 90%’s share is below 50% for the first time ever (49.6%, to be precise)."

In simplest terms (I can't be nice about this anymore): Republican = Ignoramus

Literally translated from the Latin ignoro (first conjugation), the conjugated verb in the first person plural means "we do not know". ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on May 31, 16 11:31 PM
" A century ago, Saez notes that the highest earners derived much of their income from earnings on the accumulated wealth of the past generations. By contrast , "[t]he evidence suggests that top income earners today are 'WORKING RICH' , highly paid employees or entrepeneurs who have not yet accumulated fortunes comparable to those accumulated during the Gilded Age."
Your own pst shows that the highest earners today Mr Z. WORK FOR THEIR MONEY!! Hard work has it's reward!!! That has been ...more
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 1, 16 6:03 AM
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WORKING RICH who produce nothing except obscene amounts of money by manipulating and stealing from you and me, and/or criminal, obscenely overpaid corporate honchos who violate the corporate code long-ago established by the founding fathers by ignoring their many stakeholders through enslaving workers, avoiding taxes, polluting the environment. That code specifically forbade profit as the primary raison d'etre which is what the modern-day corporation has become. And that they have been declared ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 1, 16 12:14 PM
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By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 1, 16 8:54 PM
You don't really have a clue do you June? My clients are some of the 1% of the 1% and they are some of the hardest working people I have ever met. Your entire rant is nothing more than the same old same old anti capitalist blather spewed by the far left to whip up their indigent base. Who are you to determine what is "obscenely overpaid"? Sounds like your Marxism is showing , again.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 2, 16 5:58 AM
There are plenty of people who put in at least seventy hours a week, to come home with less than $500 in their pocket.

Take the blinders off.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 2, 16 7:06 AM
Envy : such an ugly emotion
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 2, 16 10:30 AM
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My eyes are wide open Mr Z. Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal outcome, some will toil in low paying jobs for a host of reasons while others will do better while others still will rise to the top of the pile , that's life. Your constant whining about income inequality and the uber rich is pitiful. Jealousy and envy are base emotions and to post the same tripe time after time is boorish in the extreme.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 2, 16 4:27 PM
I'm not the only one who sees it as a problem. You're just not smart enough to realize it is. Piketty and Saez, who incidentally are far more educated than you have my back on this one, while all you have is rhetoric and forty years of failed economic policy.

As far as rational thought goes, you are backing a candidate who just called a Federal judge a "Mexican" and a "hater".

Good luck with that.
Jun 2, 16 8:58 PM appended by Mr. Z
“I think it has to do with perhaps the fact that I’m very, very strong on the border. Now, he is Hispanic, I believe. He is a very hostile judge to me.” ~ Donald Trump
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 2, 16 8:58 PM
you conveniently ignored Joe's pointing out that

"Judge Presiding Over University Case Is Member Of La Raza..."

That is a Big _ _ _ _ _ _ deal my friend

Nice try though
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 3, 16 12:57 AM
Level of "education" has no bearing on ones' ability to separate fact from fiction. You still have not provided an explanation on how "income inequality" is a quantifiable problem , griping about lobbyist and money in politics does not address the issue. True statement from Trump, lies from Hillary.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 3, 16 6:02 AM
@ UD: You're looking at the wrong organization, you idiot. He's a member of the NCLR orgnization, not the hate group.

@bigfresh: There's more "wealth" than ever before, but there are 45 million people living below the poverty line. Like I said, we have 100 years of solid economic data and research, which incidentally shows the lowest poverty rates in history in 1973 after almost three decades of progressive tax policy, and your forty years of rhetoric and failed policy. We really do ...more
Jun 5, 16 9:29 AM appended by Mr. Z
"He's NOT a member of the NCLR organization, read not a member of a hate group." Dang speech to text. For further reference, he's a member of La Raza Lawyers of California.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 5, 16 9:29 AM
SiriusXM Announces Suspension of Glenn Beck over Brad Thor Interview Comments

Trump struck to his guns throughout the news conference, repeatedly attacking the press and specific journalists as sleazy and dishonest. He told one questioner that's how he would conduct himself if he wins the White House.
"You think I'm gonna change? I'm not gonna change, including with [New Mexico governor Susan Martinez]," who he had recently attacked, Trump said.

This is awsome

Trump ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on May 31, 16 12:05 PM
He comes "pre-corrupted". Perfect bumper sticker!

Trump has a $100 million conflict of interest

By Mark Sumner
Wednesday Jun 01, 2016 · 9:20 AM EDT


This candidacy brought to you by Deutsche Bank



Don Trump may have his tax returns hidden deep in a gold-painted vault, but we have been given a peek at his financial disclosure statement. From the statement, it’s hard to make out Trump’s real worth. Yes, there are a lot of ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 1, 16 12:17 PM
Quite accurate June.

Trump works his schemes like Mitt Romney ran KB Toys or GS Steel into the ground. Borrow heavily against the company, run it into the ground, take a lavish salary, and then declare bankruptcy. Laughing all the way to the bank...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 1, 16 8:59 PM
talkn bout schemes now, how bout the deranged and deluded circular logic from the Clinton camp. Thwarting the will of the people has been the plan of super delegates, the DNC, state Democratic parties, and Clinton campaign since the beginning. Nough said !
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Jun 2, 16 10:55 AM

Silence = Death
We fiddle, and the republic burns. It's sickening. Donald Trump, man-child arsonist, is day by day torching the most sacred American values -- threatening the welfare of millions, undermining the pillars of our democracy, igniting the ugliest impulses of the society's id -- and we, the media, are covering it like a bemused recap of House of Cards. The rapacious CBS Chairman Les Moonves and the cable-newslike channels are delighted at the spectacle; disaster is always great ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 1, 16 12:52 PM
Milo Yiannopoulos: For Too Long Has The "Bogus Cult Of Social Justice" Policed Our Lives
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 2, 16 10:39 AM
By hog8
You were much better at High School Basketball than you are at attempted Political Ramble
By VILDWELL (1), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 13, 16 5:10 PM
June your hilarious
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 1, 16 2:07 PM
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Actually insane, once again proving beyond any doubt that liberalism is a mental disorder.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 2, 16 5:50 AM
The Press Conference Republican Voters Have Wanted To See For Years

RUSH LIMBAUGH: Well, that's what you've all wanted. That's what everybody's been asking for I don't know how long. That was a press conference. That was a press conference. That was the kind of press conference Republicans voters have been dying to see for who knows how many years.

Say what you will about Donald Trump -- how many years have people been begging for a Republican to just once take on the media the ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 2, 16 10:38 AM
Spot on:

Lord of the Lies
06/01/2016 04:50 pm ET


Lynn Sherr
Author of ‘Sally Ride: America’s First Woman in Space’ and an award-winning broadcaster and author
Sometimes, it takes a Brit.

In the year since Donald Trump rode an escalator down to his Manhattan version of a political lobby, frustrated and, often, horrified, American analysts have searched for his soul everywhere from Weimar Germany to grammar school playgrounds, trying to ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 2, 16 1:14 PM
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TRUMP 2016!
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 2, 16 9:23 PM
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Any thoughts of your own June?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 2, 16 4:21 PM
CALIFORNIA SHOCK POLL: SANDERS TAKES LEAD OVER HILLARY...

people are starting to see her for who and what she really is and for who and what she really represents.

There's a reason she won't release the texts from her Wall Street speeches

When the democrats lose, it's will be because the establishment supported Clinton whom has over 20 years of scandals, and controversies.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 2, 16 9:37 PM
'NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS IN AMERICA'...
TRUMP CAMPAIGNERS CHASED DOWN LIKE PREY...
DOZENS PUNCHED...
POLICE ASSAULTED...
SAN JOSE MAYOR JUSTIFIES VIOLENCE...
VIDEO: FEMALE PELTED WITH HUEVOS...
MEXICAN FLAGS RAISED AS AMERICAN FLAG BURNS...
"THIS IS OUR COUNTRY NOW"...
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 3, 16 9:30 AM
Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton Is "More Dangerous" Than Donald Trump; "We'll Be In Iran In Two Seconds"
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 3, 16 9:36 AM
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MICHELLE O: 'I WAKE UP IN HOUSE BUILT BY SLAVES'...

Wow Really...

Nice way to heal the nation
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 4, 16 1:00 AM
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Race baiters in the White House, riots in the streets, 1st amendment under attack by the left, way to go Barak, way to go.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 4, 16 7:47 AM
Some things never change about society, eh?

"Bums on the sidewalk, garbage in the streets,
Abandoned buildings, bricks of concrete
The ladies on the corner are selling their bodies,
and everybody wants a part in that party"

~ Grandmaster Flash
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 5, 16 9:56 AM
to marlinspike:

Quote:

"Just like Muhammad Ali, behind the hype & bravado of Donald Trump there is a very good man."
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In reality, their two characters are as similar as their skin colors.

A new low for the extreme Right-Wing on this forum. Using the death of an admired American, one whose life defines the term "self-made man", to plug their entitled incompetent.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 4, 16 9:43 AM
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to marlinspike:

Quote:

"'similar as their skin color' ? That is race baiting creep talk."
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Well, firstly, I'd like to see you defend that moronic (even for YOU[!]) accusation - - - and - - -secondly, I'd like to see you prove the rest of your prejudicial claims with objective references. (Not holding breath, as usual.)

The Donald is a straightforward psychopath.* Attributing qualities to him (such as those that defined ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 4, 16 7:28 PM
Muhammad Ali was a man blessed with both physical skills and the ability to speak the truth. Sad to see that he is one of only Muslims to put down radical Islam and Islamic terrorism.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 4, 16 2:26 PM
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Heard on the grapevine that Trump is going to Alis funeral I gues its because they were both draft dodgers
By watchdog1 (543), Southampton on Jun 4, 16 6:13 PM
to bigfresh:

Quote:

"Muhammad Ali was a man blessed with both physical skills and the ability to speak the truth. Sad to see that he is one of only Muslims to put down radical Islam and Islamic terrorism."
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More ignorant nonsense. The number of the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide who approve of the perversions of ISIL and its kind is insignificant to the whole. Virtually every Muslim who isn't among the infinitesimal minority ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 5, 16 2:42 AM
RIP - Cassius Clay ... He was a great boxer and I always enjoyed his events very much. It was a great sport back then 15 rounds of strategy and excitement.

Then like most things in the late 90s they ruined the sport !
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 5, 16 1:26 PM
And Trump tweeted he had no idea who your Muslim sports hero is, LOL.

"Obama said in his speech that Muslims are our sports heroes. What sport is he talking about, and who? Is Obama profiling?
12:50 AM - 7 Dec 2015"

~ Donald Trump
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 5, 16 4:44 PM
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By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 5, 16 8:45 AM
Hilary is a corrupt, calculating, self serving old hack.

Enjoy your Sunday
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 5, 16 1:28 PM
Hillary Meets The Press -- For Less Than 10 Mins...
Top Aide: Voters Don't Care About Media Questions...
Reporter Asks Bernie If He's Sexist For Staying In...
Roger Clinton arrested for driving under influence...
Jun 6, 16 4:41 PM appended by They call me
You cant make this stuff up
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 6, 16 4:41 PM
Here's a nice blurb from Bloomberg you may enjoy.

The Untold Story Behind Saudi Arabia’s 41-Year U.S. Debt Secret

Andrea Wong
10 hrs ago

"While oil’s collapse has deepened concern that Saudi Arabia will need to liquidate its Treasuries to raise cash, a more troubling worry has also emerged: the specter of the kingdom using its outsize position in the world’s most important debt market as a political weapon, much as it did with oil in the 1970s."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 5, 16 9:20 AM
joe thanks for this recommendation

cant Wait for crisis of character to come out , just read this on the drudge report and it looks fascinating

SECRET SERVICE AGENT BOOK ROCKS CLINTON CAMPAIGN
Sat Jun 04 2016 18:03:18 ET
**Exclusive**

Posted directly outside President Clinton's Oval Office, Former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne reveals what he observed of Hillary Clinton's character and the culture inside the White House while protecting the First Family. ...more
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Jun 5, 16 1:41 PM
Note to author: Want a career in journalism? Stop gushing. You embarrass our profession.
By fire11 (276), east hampton on Jun 5, 16 10:29 PM
SECRET SERVICE AGENT EXPOSES 'REAL' HILLARY

Hillary Clinton has a “Jekyll and Hyde” personality that left White House staffers scared stiff of her explosive — and even physical — outbursts, an ex-Secret Service officer claims in a scathing new tell-all.
Jun 6, 16 4:39 PM appended by They call me
If she isn't indicted, it will be a total $hit $how. Either way, she is toast.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 6, 16 4:39 PM
CNBC's Jake Novak: Donald Trump Will Be President; The Time For Denial Has Passed

Donald Trump is the people's candidate, and as such he represents the folks political middle finger to the current status quo of their gov't who has completely ignored them. These wimp republicans disparaging or holding back their support/endorsement of the folks choice will pay a political price.....wait for it. These politicians do not seem to realize how despised they have become for doing exactly what ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 6, 16 4:49 PM
Today marks the 70th anniversary of D-Day, and Google has decided to ignore it., these Metro sexual Google dirt bags wanted Hitler to succeed. That's why they sit on their hands.

The absolute worst company in the world for Privacy abuse, Anti-trust violations....

Google is not your friend folks.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 6, 16 8:26 PM
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Rep. Peter King (R-Seaford), who is supporting Trump, told Newsday that in his view as a lawyer and lawmaker: “Donald Trump is wrong. He can’t be using race or religion or ethnicity by themselves as any basis to question or disqualify a judge. . . . First of all, it’s wrong. And as a practical matter, it would just shut down the judicial system.”

King added: “If you follow it to its conclusion, it would mean you could never have an African-American or a white ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 6, 16 8:57 PM
MY GOD!!!

Look what else Google ignored!!!

Events

1508 – Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor, is defeated in Friuli by Venetian troops

1513 – Italian Wars: Battle of Novara. Swiss troops defeat the French under Louis II de la Trémoille, forcing the French to abandon Milan. Duke Massimiliano Sforza is restored.

1523 – Gustav Vasa, the Swedish regent, is elected King of Sweden, marking a symbolic end to the Kalmar Union. ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 6, 16 9:06 PM
Florida AG asked Trump for donation before nixing fraud case

By JEFF HORWITZ, GARY FINEOUT AND MICHAEL BIESECKER
Jun. 6, 2016 7:57 PM EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) — Florida's attorney general personally solicited a political contribution from Donald Trump around the same time her office deliberated joining an investigation of alleged fraud at Trump University and its affiliates

The new disclosure from Attorney General Pam Bondi's spokesman to The Associated Press on Monday ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 6, 16 8:29 PM
The Shreeker
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 7, 16 2:59 PM
@ marlin: Bull****.

Ex-Texas official: Trump U probe dropped due to politics

By MICHAEL BIESECKER
Jun. 3, 2016 8:41 PM EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton moved Friday to muzzle a former state regulator who says he was ordered in 2010 to drop a fraud investigation into Trump University for political reasons.

Paxton's office issued a cease and desist letter to former Deputy Chief of Consumer Protection John Owens after ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 7, 16 8:31 PM
Judge, law firm bringing Trump U case both tied to La Raza

NEW YORK – The federal judge presiding over the Trump University class action lawsuit is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association, a group that while not a branch of the National Council of La Raza, has ties to the controversial organization, which translates literally “The Race.”
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 7, 16 9:57 PM
Dan , Thats breaking news ? I told you all this over a week ago...
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 7, 16 10:02 PM
Do you know what apophenia is?

Because it sure looks like you do...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 16 5:48 AM
"It had to be political in my mind because Donald Trump was treated differently than any other similarly situated scam artist in the 16 years I was at the consumer protection office," said Owens, who lives in Houston.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 16 7:10 PM
ILLEGALS FLOOD IN -- FROM EVERYWHERE!

Central America, China, Romania...

San Diego Sector Surge...
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 6, 16 11:39 PM
CALIFORNIA SCHEMING; SANDERS SUPPORTERS SEETHING
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 7, 16 9:55 PM
Report: Judge Curiel Belongs to Group that Called for Boycott of Trump’s Businesses
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 8, 16 2:48 AM
tto 27dan:

Quote:

"Report: Judge Curiel Belongs to Group that Called for Boycott of Trump’s Businesses"
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Yet another extremist Right-Wing quote (deliberately unaccredited) from the notorious "breitbart" website, one of the premier propaganda manufactories of the lunatic Right. Here's what the quote actually read:

"Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who is overseeing a fraud case against Trump University, is reportedly ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 8, 16 3:42 AM
TRUMP BEATS OWN PREDICTION: 1,500+ DELEGATE,

Trump Scores Historic 13 Million GOP Primary Vote Blowout with California Win

Get on the train or out of the way...
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 8, 16 3:14 PM
Freestuffer Paradise HH!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 8, 16 5:35 AM
Trump Shatters Republican Primary Vote Record by 1.4 Million...

GO BABY GO

TRUMP 2016 !
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 8, 16 11:55 AM
How disgusting ...

and you wonder why The people have had enough of this...

CNN Depicts 'History-Making' Hillary Clinton As Glowing 'Golden God'
By Matthew Balan | June 8, 2016 | 12:08 PM EDT

CNN used some very noticeable video editing to transfigure Hillary Clinton on Wednesday's New Day.

[Update: the unaltered footage from the Hillary Clinton rally has been posted below]
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 8, 16 3:10 PM
Phil said "HRC is sure to be the next POTUS now that Donald is self- destructing "

If anyone would know about self destruction someone who has been banned from this site surly would !

DT is doing just fine its the people who vote not the liberal loving media.

now please stop breaking the rules and go away
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 8, 16 5:31 PM
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sure, just like you were going to rub it in everyones face when you were sure bishop was going to win

please, you sound so infantile. is this what you used to teach your kids? how to get publicly banned and then continuously break the rules to sneak back on. your a fine example

sorry but hilary is corrupt and will not win
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Jun 8, 16 9:56 PM
Hillary is "corrupt"? If that ain't the pot calling the kettle black.

This from someone who supports a candidate with ties to organized crime, was sued TWICE by the Justice Department for racial bias, ran a scam university with zero credentials to back up the title, and had conveniently timed donations to the right people in Florida and Texas to avoid a suit like Eric Schneiderman is now pressing (Bondi, Abbot, et al.). And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Jun 8, 16 10:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
"It had to be political in my mind because Donald Trump was treated differently than any other similarly situated scam artist in the 16 years I was at the consumer protection office," said Owens, who lives in Houston.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 8, 16 10:12 PM
who is being investigated by the fbi ?
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Jun 9, 16 6:07 AM
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Remember. Hillary is a democrat…the democrats always get 90% of the black vote and 80% of the Jewish vote. Dems will always get the illegal alien vote, the cemetery vote, the welfare and food stamp vote, not to mention the union vote, the multiple voter vote as well as the brain dead vote, the drug addict vote as well as the Xanax and Prozac voter…Dems also carry the communist vote, the socialist vote, the Muslim vote and the I hate America vote. Now she just picked up the black lives ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 9, 16 2:41 PM
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During Trump's casino days, he was looked at closely by the FBI.

Any other attempts at distraction?

BTW, USAToday exclusive:

USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills
Steve Reilly, USA TODAY 8:01 p.m. EDT June 9, 2016
Jun 9, 16 10:58 PM appended by Mr. Z
Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters, dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn’t pay them for their work.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 9, 16 10:58 PM
Exclusive: Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented for a presidential nominee

Nick Penzenstadler and Susan Page, USA TODAY 8:21 a.m. EDT June 2, 2016
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 9, 16 11:04 PM
White House calls FBI probe into Clinton's classified emails a 'criminal investigation' – on the same day Obama endorses her

Within an hour of Barack Obama's endorsement of Hillary Clinton, his spokesman acknowledged that she faces a 'criminal investigation'
The misstep sent Republicans cackling to reporters
Clinton faces the possibility of prosecution for housing classified documents on a private email server

She used the homebrew setup for all her emails – ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 9, 16 11:24 PM
tp 27dan:

Quote:

"White House calls FBI probe into Clinton's classified emails a 'criminal investigation'"
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Silliness. Reporters are just delighted that Josh Earnest committed such an egregious faux pas. Press secretaries, especially at this level, are expected to personify "flannel-mouthedness". Jumping on Earnest's inadvertent buzzword use is gleeful journalistic shadenfreude.

In fact, his ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 10, 16 2:40 AM
New ISIS ‘Kill’ List Targets Thousands Of Americans

ISIS "kill" lists have called on ISIS loyalists to attack everyone from Minnesota cops to State Department employees and ordinary Americans

Pro-ISIS group calling itself the United Cyber Caliphate distributed its latest “kill” list this week. The group claims the list includes names, addresses, and email addresses belonging to 8,318 people, making it one of the longest target lists ISIS-affiliated groups ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 8, 16 5:41 PM
Sometime you gotta call a spade a spade.
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This is one of those times.
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Senator Elizabeth Warren's comments about Trump in the video posted this morning:

"A fragile, thin-skinned, racist bully . . . "

And the list goes on.

Please watch the video
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As to Clinton, sometimes the devil you know is better than the devil you don't want to know.

This is one of those times!

Election 2016? -- "None Of The ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jun 10, 16 5:07 AM
The only thing less wholesome might be having Trump actually get elected.

The man is not cut out for it.

Mark my words.

Trouble.

Racist thin-skinned bullies never really know the limits of their "small worlds of perception" until they get whacked by bigger bullies., whom they did not see coming with hidden tools, agendas and back-room deals already in place.

This observation might also apply to certain Internet commentators . . .

Just sayin' ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jun 10, 16 10:23 AM
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Is that a threat PBR

Because it sure sounded like you attempting to silence an opposing viewpoint
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 10, 16 2:06 PM
OH MY GOD
ABC: Newly Released Emails Show Unqualified Clinton Foundation Donor Appointed to Sensitive Intelligence Board
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 10, 16 4:56 PM
No, what he's telling you morons is that Trump is a charlatan who has absolutely no f****** clue what he's in for when it comes to D.C. culture.

I highly recommend Neil Barofsky's "Bailout" for a glimpse into the D.C. machine.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 10, 16 10:20 PM
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Thanks Mr. Z.

The "powers that be" already have a plan in place to undermine Trump's election, and if necessary his Presidency.

If elected, he will be left hanging in his own fetid wind to shrivel up and whither away to the wrinkled hollow shell that he is -- desiccated by his own buffoonish hot air.

Ike warned us in the 50's about the military-industrial complex.

It is still very much alive and well.

And Trump is not a member IMO.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jun 11, 16 12:57 PM
Would any Democrat loyalists here vote for Hillary if she is indicted?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 10, 16 6:20 AM
Your "if" is a right wing extremist pipe dream.

If Colin Powell was never indicted, Clinton sure as hell won't be. Are you sure you aren't as naive as you appear to be?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 10, 16 10:22 PM
Evidence be damned. Hillary will be forced upon us, no matter how big of a criminal she is. This makes Watergate look like child's play.
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Jun 11, 16 12:38 AM
Reading Hat Heads comments one gets the feeling they are a vague attempt to minimize Clinton's criminality by suggesting this is just just routine.

" Nothing to see here, move along now folks"...

America's liberal establishment and media is truly in bed with the crooked criminal, Hillary. I never realized just how liberal the media really is. Amazing!

Let's keep our eyes on the ball. Hillary the vile, smart lawyer, set this private server up to avoid visibility of ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 10, 16 8:23 AM
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to joe hampton:

Quote:

" Nothing to see here, move along now folks"...
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Succinctly put, joe - - - not only to the FBI "criminal" investigation but to all the implied and insinuated defamatory smears that the Right-Wing has thrown at Hillary.

Should you true believing fanatics ever actually produce a single FACT to substantiate any of your incessant obloquies, readers would be well advised to repair immediately to the nearest ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 10, 16 9:19 AM
Look at this rationally. You're dealing with at least one man who thinks trickle down works, while even the Koch brothers will say our system is rigged to benefit the rich and income inequality is a serious issue.

It just doesn't get any dumber than a Drumpf zealot.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 10, 16 10:29 PM
It's unlikely Hillary will be indicted, but I think it's very likely that the truth will be leaked by professionals within the FBI who know justice got snuffed out by politics. People will recognize the truth and justice will be served at the voting booth.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 10, 16 10:41 PM
BILL CLINTON BRAGS ABOUT SLEEPING WITH 2,000 WOMEN!
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 10, 16 2:01 PM
2000 is that even possible i doubt it
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Jun 10, 16 2:50 PM
I just heard Bernie plans on running on the green party ticket and continuing the political revolution

GO BERNIE !
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Jun 10, 16 4:59 PM
DR. JILL STEIN: Yes, and good morning, Amy and Juan. It’s great to be with you. You know, this is kind of what many people have foreseen all along. It was kind of in the cards.

The Democratic machine has very steeply tilted the playing field, from the beginning, by limiting the debates, limiting the exposure of Bernie Sanders, some very questionable election practices, 100,000 voters disappearing from the rolls in Brooklyn, some very questionable things that happened in the Democratic ...more
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Jun 10, 16 5:03 PM
to They call me:

Quote:

"I think it's very likely that the truth will be leaked by professionals within the FBI"
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Everyone would like to know the truth. However, even though Right-Wing government officials have shown themselves, in the past, to be willing casually to dishonor their oaths of service in the furtherance of their partisan political ends (Vide The Honorable Lee's use of State Department secrets, stolen ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 11, 16 2:53 AM
So Hillary NEVER had any e mails that were classified as top secret or whatever else such as" for your eyes only Madame Secretary" the entire time she held the position of Secretary of State???!!! I call BS on that HH, while she was in all probability the worst SOS we have ever had, she must have had some highly classified correspondence . Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 11, 16 1:38 PM
to bigfresh:

Quote:

"So Hillary NEVER had any e mails that were classified as top secret"
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Just so. She had no emails worthy of that name - - - and none that contained "classified" information at the time that they were written - - - on the email account in question.

All conversations involving truly sensitive data was transmitted by other, secure means.

Contrary to its usual depiction of Hillary as the epitome of ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 11, 16 11:26 PM
Da folks want Bernie not this corrupt oppatunistic old washer woman
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Jun 12, 16 1:24 AM
Do tell. and what are these "other, secure means"?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 12, 16 7:43 AM
to bigfresh:
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Diplomatic pouch? Encrypted cable? Scrambled telephone?

And, one imagines, state department email accounts whose level of security makes them invulnerable to hacking.

Those are all the means that I can think of offhand although I am sure that there are others.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 12, 16 10:46 AM
ISIS claims responsibility for Orlando mass shooting – AP...
1 hour ago - Amaq News, a Syrian news agency with close ties to the Islamic State, says the group is responsible for the attack on Orlando
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 12, 16 4:02 PM
Obama doesn't mention Islam in Orlando terror
Ex-CIA director: 'Facts don't matter to this administration'

Latino Night at LGBT Night Club 'They hate gay people, these people need to be aware and looking at that for their own survival'

By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 12, 16 4:19 PM
An Imam speaking in Orlando in April said that killing gays according to Islamic law should be done "out of compassion"

WFTV 9 Orlando Reports Speaker at Orlando Mosque preaches Gays must die "Death is the sentance... we know there's nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence for being gay, It is the compassionate thing to do." Musab Masmari and Ali Muhammad Brown have also targeted the Orlando gay community:
Jun 12, 16 4:31 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
ISIS claims responsibility for America's most deadly mass shooting: Terror group, 29, celebrates their New York-born 'fighter' Omar Mateen who died in Orlando gay club after killing 50 DailyMail
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 12, 16 4:31 PM
Lots of interesting articles popping up on how "Dodg'n Donald" took millions of dollars out of his casinos while stiffing employees & small businesses. Also shifting his personal debt onto the casinos and screwing his partners before his casinos went into bankruptcy leaving his creditors holding the bag.

Seems he also has a problem paying his employees in other states where the states have had to drag him into court to get the wages paid. Makes you wonder how he's going to watch out for ...more
By bird (829), Sag Harbor on Jun 12, 16 2:24 AM
Afghanistan Migration Surging Into USA: 99% Support Sharia...
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 12, 16 3:40 PM
ISIS SLAUGHTER AT ORLANDO GAY BAR
50+ KILLED; LARGEST ACT OF TERROR IN AMERICAN HISTORY...
ISIS LOOKING TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD...
SESSIONS: MORE OF THESE ATTACKS ARE COMING...
TRUMP: 'When will this stop? When will we get tough, smart & vigilant'... SATURDAY NIGHT HORROR...
HE WAS 'WEARING A SUICIDE VEST'...
OPENED FIRE ON DANCEFLOOR...
'BLOOD EVERYWHERE'...
MUSIC STOPPED, THEN SCREAMS...
VIDEO: SHOT AFTER SHOT AFTER SHOT...
DISNEY GOES ON ALERT...
TERRORISM ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 12, 16 3:44 PM
OMAR MIR SEDDIQUE MATEEN His voter ID number is 114484524. He registered to vote 19 July 2006 and he is registered in the Florida Democratic Party.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 12, 16 3:54 PM
It is important to recognize that this is not all Muslims just the ones from radical country's that Trump wants to keep out
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 12, 16 4:55 PM
Wow. Stupid and gullible.

The mass shooting was a hate crime by an anti-gay zealot, despite his heritage. Calling it "terrorism" is simply a soapbox for idiots.



"What is the legal difference between hate crimes and terrorism in the US?"

Hate crimes are not separate charges, but an "enhancement" to an existing charge, like assault or murder. Prosecutors use this option to increase the severity of the punishment for those crimes - a potential sentence for a hate ...more
Jun 12, 16 6:36 PM appended by Mr. Z
"Traditionally, intelligence and law enforcement agents used four criteria in determining terrorist acts: A suspected terrorist act was premeditated; it was political, in that it was designed to change the existing political order; it was aimed at civilians; and it was carried out by subnational groups — not by the army of a country. " ~ Eric Boehlert
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 12, 16 6:36 PM
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Ex-wife of suspected Orlando shooter: 'He beat me'

The Washington Post
Adam Goldman, Julie Tate

The ex-wife of the 29-year-old man suspected of killing 50 people in a Orlando nightclub early Sunday said that he was violent and mentally unstable and beat her repeatedly while they were married.

The ex-wife said she met Omar Mateen online about eight years ago and decided to move to Florida and marry him.

At first, the marriage was normal, she said, but then ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 12, 16 6:44 PM
There is no question that Muslim theology lends itself to interpretations that endorse mass murder and rape as the will of god - - - or that large numbers of Middle Eastern Muslims in the past few decades (and, alas, their children, even if they themselves are not so inclined) have embraced. However, our constitution prohibits religious discrimination and, unless the government (with the acquiescence of the judiciary) is willing to proclaim Islam a terrorist organization, there is no legal means ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 12, 16 7:26 PM
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really mr hat i guess you did not see joes post from earlier today

" It is important to recognize that this is not all Muslims just the ones from radical country's that Trump wants to keep out "

By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Jun 12, 16 11:30 PM
to Erin 27 E:

The Donald's proposal to ban all Muslims from entering the United States (and NOT, as you and joe claim, just those from "radical" countries*) much less becoming immigrants, is typical of his ignorant and achingly stupid response to all questions that demand the slightest cognitive subtlety.

The fact is that such a ban would almost certainly be illegal, and would, in any case, result in hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Middle Eastern Muslim refugees seeking ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 13, 16 2:57 AM
Obama Says Orlando Shooter Was "Homegrown Terrorist"

But not according to
Saudi Arabian officials who say Omar Mateen twice visited the kingdom on pilgrimages

By Felicia Schwartz, Wall Street Journal, June 13, 2016 1:30 p.m. ET
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 13, 16 2:02 PM
Coworker of Suspected Orlando Gunman Says He Reported Him to Employer as 'Unhinged'

By Adam Hamze
June 13, 2016 | 2:48 pm

A number of people have come forward describing Omar Mateen, the man who killed about 50 people in an queer Orlando nightclub Saturday night, as violent, angry, and hateful. Among them is a coworker at security firm G4S, Daniel Gilroy, who says that he reported Mateen's aggressive and homophobic behavior to supervisors but saw no action taken.
Jun 13, 16 8:14 PM appended by Mr. Z
The two men guarded PGA Village, a popular Florida golf resort and gated community, where they would interact when Mateen took over Gilroy's shifts. Mateen threw violent tantrums when angry and made racist and homophobic comments, according to Gilroy, who also said Mateen at one point bombarded him with 20 to 30 texts a day. "I quit because everything he said was toxic," Gilroy told Florida Today. "The company wouldn't do anything. This guy was unhinged and unstable. He talked of killing people."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 13, 16 8:14 PM
MILO TO SPEAK TUESDAY AT UCF ORLANDO ABOUT GAYS AND ISLAM

You should watch Mr Z
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 13, 16 8:43 PM
You folks do realize the shooter was born in Brooklyn, right?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 16 2:18 PM
Would that be the same Saudi Arabia that is one of the biggest contributors to the Clinton Foundation?

The atheists and precious millennial snowflakes had better start paying attention, they are here to kill you, not to reason with you.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 13, 16 3:50 PM
Classmates say Omar celebrated 9/11...

Clinton State Dept. Blocked Probe into Killer's Mosque...

ISIS releases hit list with names of more than 8,000 Americans...

Afghanistan Migration Surging Into USA: 99% Support Sharia...

TRUMP: DAYS OF DEADLY IGNORANCE WILL END
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 13, 16 3:48 PM
Trump was accused of destroying email evidence in lawsuit 10 years ago
Paul Singer, USA TODAY 7:39 p.m. EDT June 13, 2016
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 13, 16 7:57 PM
This nutcase swearing allegiance to ISIS is like Jack Torrance swearing allegiance to the Easter Bunny.

He wasn't even a practicing Muslim.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 13, 16 7:35 PM
This nutcase swearing allegiance to ISIS is like Jack Torrance swearing allegiance to the Easter Bunny.

He wasn't even a practicing Muslim.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 13, 16 7:35 PM
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Seven HUGE Corporate Sponsors Just Ditched The RNC Due To Trump’s Bigotry

ByMarissaPosted on June 17, 2016

Seven colossal multinational corporations with a long history of sponsoring the Republican National Convention (RNC) are boycotting it this year, presumably because they refuse to associate their brands with the divisive racism and vulgar ignorance of presumptive nominee Donald Trump.

Bloomberg, Wells Fargo, UPS, Motorola, JPMorgan Chase, Ford, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 17, 16 9:06 PM
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Trump 2016
Jun 18, 16 5:35 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Maher: ‘Where Are the Liberals’ To Stand Up for Gay People and Women In the Muslim World?
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 18, 16 5:35 PM
TRUMP ROCKS PHOENIX RALLY
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 18, 16 11:57 PM
Watching the sorry excuse for a human being go down in flames. Now there's full exposure of what a lying, thieving blowhard he is. And some Americans actually find these qualities worthy of admiration and support him as a leader of the mightiest nation on earth. Can you imagine what a mess he would make of it based on his so-called "campaign"? Now we know he's been stealing from it --a million or more , they say--for his own personal use, and that it has a whopping 1.3M in the bank vs. Hillary's ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 21, 16 12:38 PM
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By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Jun 22, 16 8:57 AM
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So you must not have heard about the drone war that's been underway since at least the pull-out from Iraq? And may I ask what your solution to extremism would be? Dollars to donuts you supported the Iraq war that created it.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 22, 16 5:28 PM
Why is it so hard for you to familiarize yourself with the Constitution of the United States. Then you wouldn't pose such stupid questions?
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 22, 16 5:30 PM
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I am familiar with the 2nd how about you June
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 22, 16 7:03 PM
What part of we don't want these people here did you not understand ?
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 22, 16 7:07 PM
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By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 22, 16 7:10 PM
You mean the one that says only those who are part of a regulated militia should have muskets?
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 22, 16 7:10 PM
Its about defending the homeland from all enemy's both foreign and domestic. Muskets were the arms of the day and a well regulated militia is about balance.

If the US armed forces and the terrorists want to go back to muskets then the militias will be happy to go back as well :)
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 22, 16 7:54 PM
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By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 22, 16 6:03 PM
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And what exactly did the PIAPS as Secretary of State that helped the Mid East situation? Facts please, not just liberal talking points, thanks.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 22, 16 6:03 PM
CLINTON SERVER SECURITY FEATURES WERE DISABLED...

RUMSFELD: She 'would be indicted' over if she were a soldier...

TRUMP LETS HER HAVE IT!

'WORLD-CLASS LIAR'...

LIMBAUGH: Finally a Republican Tells Truth About Hillary...

HOLLYWOOD TERROR FEARS...

RED-CARPET REVIEW...
Hundreds of terror plots in USA since 9/11...

Mostly FOREIGN-BORN suspects...

Dozens of REFUGEES...
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 22, 16 8:05 PM
Trump rails away as the angry populist against the donor class and the insiders, and who does he choose to run his campaign but the ultimate insider, one Paul Manifort, lobbyist and operative who's represented dictators all around the world (some against American interests, btw), and whose former business partner is maybe the sleaziest man alive, one Roger Stone. Manifort's remote appearance on Meet the Press this morning was billed as coming "from Southampton, NY". A check in the phone directory ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 26, 16 1:13 PM