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Jun 14, 2016 1:02 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

South Fork Community Members Stand In Solidarity With Victims And Families Of Orlando Nightclub Shooting

A vigil for the victims of the Orlando mass shooting was held in Bridgehampton on Tuesday night.  DANA SHAW
Jun 15, 2016 11:44 AM

Robert Kohnken was 19 when he started working at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

After growing up in a small town like Sag Harbor, he said, living in Orlando was “beyond fascinating.” First visiting and then working at Pulse from 2008 to 2010 as his drag alter ego, Razor Adonis/Naomi Sommers, only heightened that experience. He called it one of the greatest times of his life.

“From the second I walked in, I felt like I had found a place where I belong, a home away from home. I was hypnotized by the light, the music, the energy and, of course, the show,” he said. “Pulse is so much more than a club—it’s a family, a home, a safe space, a celebration, a community and a spirit.”

So when Mr. Kohnken, now 28 and again living in Sag Harbor, woke up to a text message Sunday morning saying, “Can’t believe seeing that on the news this morning. … Awful,” his heart dropped. He would soon learn that his former place of employment was the target of the most deadly mass shooting in American history.

“My head started spinning and I felt like throwing up. I was probably thinking 1,000 things a second. My main thought was, ‘Oh, God, what if my friends are dead?’ I started sending off messages to everyone I could,” he recalled.

Fortunately, he discovered that all of his closest friends and co-workers either weren’t working that night or had been able to escape alive and uninjured.

The relief did not last. When the list of victims was released, he discovered that a number of acquaintances and patrons he knew were killed.

“Still, to this day, I simply can’t fathom an act of such malicious hatred and violence happening there,” Mr. Kohnken said. “Pulse is a sanctuary, not a hostile place where fighting occurs. I know my co-workers and myself are just taking things moment by moment at this point.”

But when he found out about a vigil planned for Bridgehampton, where he now works as a barista at Starbucks, he was compelled to join with the South Fork community to mourn and remember.

That night, about 80 students, educators, religious leaders, community members, business owners and canines joined together in solidarity to show support for the victims and the families of the shooting at Pulse.

Organized by Bridgehampton School English teacher Tom House in coordination with local clergy and the Hampton Library, the demonstration provided a way for South Fork locals to remember and honor the lives lost by taking a peaceful walk into Bridgehampton, stopping at the Hampton Library and making a loop of the hamlet before returning to the school.

Mr. House said he wanted this event to be for his students in particular. “I want them to have the opportunity to participate in a vigil, to have an example of their home community coming together to express grief over a national, even global, tragedy in a peaceful, caring way,” he said before the vigil. “There’s so much goodness in so many people in our local community, and I want to help display that and nurture that. And I know, by all the interest that’s been generated just today, that many others do, too.”

Bridgehampton School students Jaden Campbell and Stephanie Bonilla said they were deeply disturbed by the events in Orlando and sought to be part of something to stand up against it.

“A lot of people died there, and I don’t think it was right for someone to do that to them,” Jaden said while holding a sign that read “Bees Stand With Orlando.”

Before the large group set off on their trek down Main Street, Mr. House, joined by other leaders of the community, assembled in front of the school to speak. “This is a way for our hometown to show some solidarity with Orlando,” Mr. House told the crowd. “Let’s show them how much Bridgehampton cares.”

Rabbi Daniel Geffen of Temple Adas Israel in Sag Harbor said that he was pleased to see such a large crowd gather despite the short notice. “It’s very important for our community to be supportive, especially in tragedies like this, to show that there are far more loving, God-fearing, whatever you want to call it, peaceful people in the world than there are people who want to tear it down,” he said. “This is really a demonstration of the grassroots nature out here.”

For someone personally affected by the tragedy like Mr. Kohnken, it was also a healing experience.

“To watch a community get together to support and raise up a group that has been affected by such a horrific tragedy is beautiful,” he said. “At the end of the day we are all one, all trudging this journey we call life. Why not show love and support to each other instead of hate and intolerance?”

The vigil was the second to take place in Bridgehampton this week. Mr. House also organized a more impromptu gathering on Sunday evening after looking for something he could do in light of the tragedy.

“I didn’t want to just sit at home by myself, writing and reacting on Facebook,” he said. “And I didn’t see any public gathering forming locally to honor the victims. So I got in touch with a few of the truly caring people in the community I know.”

Maryann Calendrille and Kathryn Szoka, owners of Canio’s Books in Sag Harbor, said they received word of the vigil from Mr. House at the tail end of a book discussion at the shop on “The New Jim Crow.” Deciding to drive to Bridgehampton to join the vigil, the couple encouraged attendees of the discussion to join them—and many did.

“It was a spontaneous way to be together and shine a little light there,” Ms. Calendrille said.

As at Tuesday night’s event, the group gathered on Bridgehampton Main Street with signs and flags to display their support.

Ms. Szoka said that the sorrow for the loss of lives was palpable during the gathering, but just being together was a way of healing. “We wanted to bring love and spirit and healing to that and show solidarity from the East End community,” she said.

With many visitors returning west Sunday night, Ms. Szoka said, a number of drivers honked and gave thumbs-ups and peace signs in support

There is also a demonstration against assault weapons planned for Sunday, June 19, at 4 p.m. in front of the Community House on Main Street in Water Mill by the East Hampton and Southampton Democratic Committees, the LGBT Network and the Long Island chapter of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence.

Local community activist Michael O’Neill said the groups will gather on the green with signs expressing their mission to ban assault weapons.

“We’ve seen the toll that all these machine guns have taken,” Mr. O’Neill said, referring to the recent tragedy as well as the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012.

“I hope they will occur all across the country until the politicians understand that they are standing up against a sizable majority of the American population,” he said of the demonstration. “People have to speak up and out against it.”

Farther west, a large-scale vigil attracted more than 1,000 attendees Monday night at the LGBT Network’s Center in Bay Shore.

The Network’s CEO, David Kilmnick, released a statement Sunday afternoon announcing the vigil and noted that the organization would be providing grief counselors at its community centers in Woodbury, Bay Shore and Sag Harbor.

“The deplorable act of violence that targeted the LGBT community and stole 50 lives and left scores of others injured is a painful reminder of the hate and bias that continues to plague our country. Our hearts and minds are joined with all the family, friends and loved ones who are mourning today,” Mr. Kilmnick said.

Local officials, including U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin, also released statements following the shooting.

“This barbaric terror attack against innocent Americans is truly devastating, and our entire country mourns this senseless loss of life. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims, their families and the greater Orlando community,” Mr. Zeldin said. “While the investigation is ongoing, and details are still emerging, we are too often reminded that while we frequently hear and read about terrorist attacks abroad, we have a very real, ongoing homeland security threat within our own borders. We, as a country, must remain ever vigilant.”

Meanwhile, Governor Andrew Cuomo directed the lights of One World Trade Center’s spire to be displayed in the colors of the pride flag to show the state’s solidarity with the LGBT community and to mourn the loss of life. “From Stonewall to marriage equality to protecting transgender individuals to the first-in-the nation executive action to ban conversion therapy, New York, has led the way in the fight for LGBT rights,” he said. “In this state, we believe that no matter your race, creed, color, gender identity or expression, you have the right to live your life free from persecution and prejudice.”

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Thank you Congressman Zeldin for being the only one in this article (the author included) to be quoted calling this attack what it is. A terrorist attack targeting the LGBT community.
By Damon.Hagan (34), East Quogue on Jun 13, 16 2:21 PM
I read it, and re-read it, where does the Congressman address this as an attack on the LGBT community?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 16 2:42 PM
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David Kilmnick, CEO of the LGBT's Network Center, said this, not Lee Zeldin.
By wmdwjr (76), east hampton on Jun 13, 16 3:23 PM
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And Damn Hagan is a lawyer? wow Attention to details, dude.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 16 8:37 PM
Thank you, Congressman Zeldin.
By Hamptonsseashell (359), on Jun 13, 16 2:27 PM
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Why thank Zeldin? He said nothing about this being an attack on the LGBT community. Once again, empty words from our congressman.
By wmdwjr (76), east hampton on Jun 13, 16 3:26 PM
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How about your idiot president he cant call it an arab attack on humanity.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Jun 13, 16 11:00 PM
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This nutcase swearing allegiance to ISIS is like Jack Torrance swearing allegiance to the Easter Bunny.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 16 6:42 AM
Because it is not an "arab" attack. It now appears to be a gay dude who can't reconcile that within himself. He pledged allegiance to two separate , divergent terrorists groups that despise each other.
A poor attempt to cover up his motives.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 16 8:39 PM
Yes but incase you have not noticed Omar Mir Seddique Mateen was not born out of the mind of Stanley Kubrick but instead raised by Afghan parents , his father Seddique Mateen said the attack had nothing to do with religion, but is in support of the Afghan Taliban.

Trump 2016 !
Jun 14, 16 8:50 PM appended by joe hampton
Release date: May 23, 1980 (USA) / Director: Stanley Kubrick / Adapted from: The Shining / Story by: Stephen King / Screenplay: Stanley Kubrick, Diane Johnson
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 14, 16 8:50 PM
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By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 16 9:48 PM
Considering Stephen King wrote the book, I'd say it's a no brainer...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 16 10:31 PM
There you go again, looking at things from you side only...

The character Jack Torrance is most remembered for the way Jack Nicholson portrayed him and that character was directed by,

wait for it ... Yes, Stanley Kubrick... who also wrote the screen play for the movie. More people saw the movie then read the book so I even though I would accept your answer you and Blank are at it again trying to seem as though you are so highbrow. lol
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 15, 16 12:14 AM
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By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 16 12:37 AM
Nice of him to leave out Diane Johnson.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 15, 16 5:46 AM
wrong again blank
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jun 23, 16 8:04 AM
People who politicize everything have issues they need to deal with. That is plain and simple. Also plain is the fact that the shooter had mental issues, just as all mass murderers. If a mental person claims he is from Mars and starts shooting people we call them crazy. If a mental person claims he is from ISIS and starts shooting we call them a terrorist. The shooter was not from Mars, or ISIS for that matter, just mentally unstable. The major problem is mental health... there are people who are ...more
By deelove (152), Bridgehampton on Jun 14, 16 6:35 AM
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Really deelove where do you get your news from facebook ?

Classmates say Omar celebrated 9/11...
Obama Says Orlando Shooter Was "Homegrown Terrorist"
But not according to
Saudi Arabian officials who say Omar Mateen twice visited the kingdom on pilgrimages...
TERRORIST Identified As OMAR MIR SEDDIQUE MATEEN; Born To Afghan Parents...
Had Been Investigated by FBI...
ISIS claims responsibility ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 14, 16 3:34 PM
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By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 14, 16 8:38 PM
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Frankly, we most likely will find life on Mars. It's core is not dead, and subterranean water would allow for the existence of extremophiles.

Educated people could draw such a conclusion.

By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 16 8:50 PM
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By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 14, 16 9:36 PM
Hey dee- you're wrong-check the news today. now shut up
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jun 16, 16 7:12 AM
People who rant about politics and blame everything on a particular politician or party sound a lot like mass shooters themselves. It is often revealed after these events that the killers often ranted about issues that they had no control over. They frequent news comment boards or social meadia making disparaging comments about a person or issue. This is a sign of a troubled person. Politics, religion, or social issues get some people so upset, they have a tendency to lash out in some form or fashion. ...more
By deelove (152), Bridgehampton on Jun 14, 16 7:22 AM
Translation you don't like that people with an opposing viewpoint to your campus play book are keeping tabs on events and shining a light on facts so that others who might not have the time or patience to do there own research can make informed decisions for themselves
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 14, 16 8:30 PM
Well then, we should provide you with some other facts.

Interviews with co-workers and former co-workers show Mateen to be mentally unstable, and he even spoke of killing people. His employer was apparently unable to see obvious red flags, even when provided with reports from those who worked directly with him. Those reports not only showed him to be unstable, but a homphobe as well. Mateen even was said to have wished he could kill all black people, but he was a fan of racial slurs ...more
Jun 14, 16 8:55 PM appended by Mr. Z
"You meet bigots, but he was above and beyond. He was always angry, sweating, just angry at the world." ~ David Gilroy
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 16 8:55 PM
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By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 14, 16 9:00 PM
Of coarse he was mentally unstable, read up on the way he was raised and by who. His Taliban suporting Afghan father did not need to buy a gun. He raised a weapon in his own home
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 14, 16 9:04 PM
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We're all made from the same stuff, and my genealogy ain't your business.

A Strange New Molecule in Space Could Solve a Major Mystery About Life

Maddie Stone June 14, 2016 1:15 PM

Using some of the world’s most sophisticated telescopes, a pair of astronomers has discovered a first-of-its-kind organic molecule in an enormous star-forming cloud thousands of light years away. And it could shed light on one of most poorly-understood properties of life on Earth.

The ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 16 9:22 PM
"This troubled planet is a place of the most violent contrasts. Those who receive the rewards are totally separated from those who shoulder the burdens. It is not a wise leadership. "

~ Spock
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 15, 16 8:38 PM
“A balance of power — the trickiest, most difficult, dirtiest game of them all, but the only one that preserves both sides.”

James Tiberius Kirk
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 16, 16 12:11 AM
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You may want to skip taking that out of context. The full quote is as follows, and it's about arming for war:

"Then we arm our side with exactly that much more. A balance of power, the trickiest, most difficult, dirtiest game of them all. But the only one that preserves both sides."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 16, 16 8:08 PM
I was speaking of the second amendment and all enemy's both foreign and domestic
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 17, 16 7:13 PM
'Yeah right, and monkeys might fly out of my butt.'

~ Wayne Campbell
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 19, 16 12:01 AM
Z's cut/paste skills are getting more sophisticated
By smacw (240), New York on Jun 27, 16 10:54 AM
MARLIN, TCM, UD STOP IT Shhhh. You're supposed just back their calls for more gun restrictions without question.

ISIS Praises Mateen as 'Lion of Caliphate,' Urges Attacks at Theaters, Hospitals, Amusement Parks...
Orlando shooting investigation broadens to Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia...
Mohammad Moghaddam Takes Hostages at Amarillo WALMART...
Jun 14, 16 9:12 PM appended by 27dan
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 14, 16 9:12 PM
Restrictions for those on FBI watch lists would be common sense. Or why else have the FBI.
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Jun 15, 16 5:58 AM
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 15, 16 1:32 PM
NOT AGAIN! Obamacare premiums set to spike...
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 15, 16 2:56 PM
Old Testament and fundamentalist religion is the source of the poison that led to Orlando.

By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Jun 15, 16 6:34 PM
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Orlando terrorist's chilling Facebook posts from inside club revealed
By Malia Zimmerman Published June 15, 2016 Orlando shooter posted to social media during massacre
In the hours after he blasted his way into an Orlando gay nightclub, and with his victims lying dead or wounded around him, Omar Mateen took to Facebook to pledge his loyalty to ISIS and threaten more attacks on the civilized world
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 15, 16 10:35 PM


MEMO RECEIVED BY CLINTON: Obama Admin Aided Group That Became ISIS to Control Area Where ISIS Formed Caliphate

WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Obama administration supported the terrorist group that became ISIS as the group struggled to gain control of the Syria-Iraq border where ISIS now claims its caliphate, according to an intelligence report sent to Hillary Clinton.

This is high treason.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 15, 16 10:55 PM
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By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 16, 16 12:11 AM
Wow. It was on Breitbart, so it MUST be true. Because, like Drumpf, they NEVER lie or seem to be in the same league with the National Enquirer.

Along your line of reasoning, not only were Reagan's actions while in office "high treason", he caused 9/11 by financing the mujahideen fighters which later became Al Qaeda. Main screw up really was the choice to only fund the war, and not to fund schools, roads, and infrastructure beyond the conflict.

What short memories the right wing ...more
Jun 16, 16 8:34 PM appended by Mr. Z
And incidentally joe, NOW is the opportune moment to quote James Tiberius Kirk.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 16, 16 8:34 PM
"Main screw up really was the choice to only fund the war, and not to fund schools, roads, and infrastructure beyond the conflict."

The 9/11 hijackers were doctors, engineers, some millionaires in their own right and Bin Laden a near billionaire.

Saudi Arabia is the epicenter of Wahhabi inspired terror, and it's one of the wealthiest nations on earth, per capita. They are not suffering from a lack of schools or infrastructure.

Can you point me to something that substantiates ...more
By ChrisDiPetta (37), on Jun 16, 16 9:30 PM
Maybe the facts that Afghanistan is an LDC, their unemployment rate exceeds 30%, and it doesn't even make the "where to be born" list? Ignorance and religious fundamentalism go hand in hand.

Perhaps you feel feudalism was an unrecognized success?

And FYI, bin Laden's wealth was estimated at around 50 million. Hardly a "near billionaire", despite the success found by the rest of his family.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 16, 16 9:49 PM
This is the kind of crazy crap that happens when you put a Muslim? in the Oval Office! Right Phil!
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 16, 16 10:06 PM
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to They call me & joe hampton:


"MEMO RECEIVED BY CLINTON: Obama Admin Aided Group That Became ISIS to Control Area Where ISIS Formed Caliphate"

More mindless, defamatory pap from the discreditable (and, as usual with the fanatical Right-Wingers on this forum, unaccredited) Breitbart Right-Wing propaganda "news" manufactory.

I invite everyone to read the article* to see how tortuously Right-Wing loonies ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 16, 16 1:24 AM
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Media Sorelosers out of control


Reddit Will Adjust Algorithm To Censor Trump Supporters

Reddit has announced a change to its algorithm on /r/all, the page that is meant to rank the most popular posts trending across the site’s user-run communities. According to Reddit, the algorithm will be changed to promote more “diversity”
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 16, 16 8:25 PM
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Remember........free speech is what progressives say it is.!!

Oh,...and what _uckerberg says it is .!!

Everyone else be damned.!!!!!
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 16, 16 8:30 PM
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'trans for trump' face book page was also suspended.

this zuckerberg has way to much power just imagine the corruption he could bring in a country void of the 2nd amendment
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Jun 16, 16 9:56 PM



Fundamental Muslim Madness should be practiced on there soil not ours!
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 17, 16 7:17 PM
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Lee Zeldin is among several Republicans and Conservatives who have refused to mention exactly who was attacked. It’s as if the shooter had attacked a shopping mall or a Denny's. The majority of the men killed were young Gay Latinos. Why cant you acknowledge that Lee? What are you afraid of?
By kevin411 (1), Southampton on Jun 17, 16 9:41 PM
What is your point? If you're trying to say something say it. You want to name the shooter, his religion and that religion's stance on gays? For a bonus question, tell us the party he is registered with and the country from which his parents immigrated.
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Jun 18, 16 7:11 AM
The father was a Muslim al qaeda sympathizer from Afghanistan the second wife who seems to have been in on it from Pakistan.


OMAR MIR SEDDIQUE MATEEN His voter ID number is 114484524. He registered to vote 19 July 2006 and he is registered in the Florida Democratic Party. Happy ?

By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 18, 16 10:02 AM
PS Even if we get stuck with Crooked Hillary, It's 10 times better than what we have now. Have a nice fathers day .
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 18, 16 10:04 AM
A group of radical Islamists attacked a listening party in Istanbul where Radiohead was holding a listening party for fans in support of their new album.

The men reportedly stormed the record store, Velvet Indieground, in Istanbul, Turkey, and used pipes to violently beat fans running away from the venue for drinking alcohol during the holy month of Ramadan.

“Our hearts go out to those attacked tonight at Velvet IndieGround in Istanbul,” Radiohead said in a statement. ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 18, 16 10:13 AM
Sounds like they need a no pipe list.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 18, 16 10:16 AM
Yes, lol I was reading President Obama wasted no time placing the blame exactly where it belongs: the GOP's opposition to pipe control. The pipe makers need to be stopped. If there were no pipes, this would never have happend.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 18, 16 10:19 AM
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 18, 16 11:57 PM
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EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton once called disabled children at an Easter egg hunt 'f***ing ree-tards' and referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s' while Bill called Jesse Jackson a 'damned n****r,' claims Bill's former lover
Bill Clinton's former lover Dolly Kyle claims the Clinton couple regularly used racial epithets in her new book, Hillary: The Other Woman


Just terrible !

Lawmakers step up pressure for Justice to ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 20, 16 5:45 PM
Document Reveals Omar Mateen’s Father Tied to Radical Islamist Groups
By They call me (2826), southampton on Jun 21, 16 12:59 AM
That fact ,should not be a surprise....
By Biba (566), East Hampton on Jun 21, 16 11:02 AM
I really wonder where some of you people in the comments get your news from. It's scary...
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Jun 21, 16 11:40 AM
To SH RES, What is really scary is the main stream bubble you live in ? Have you ever followed up on the headlines we post ? They are mostly from the Drudge report who disseminates the stories from the AP, the NY Times, the Wash Post and many other sources... but they are all legitimate head lines.

Here is a current example of why you should stop relying on traditional biased sources.

Raging Hillary threw bible...
BILL ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 21, 16 2:22 PM
I guess you missed the Clinton / Jeffery Epstein story as well .

I suggest you look It up !
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 21, 16 2:24 PM
Poll: Voters Trust Donald Trump to Keep America Safe; Favor Muslim Ban
Americans trust Donald Trump to keep America safe more than Hillary, despite repeated assertions from Democrats that she is qualified.
A new poll from Morning Consult shows that 41 percent of Americans believed that Trump would do a better job of keeping the country safe while only 37 percent favored Hillary Clinton.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 22, 16 8:50 AM
The apophenia is absolutely staggering.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 21, 16 9:56 PM
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Where there's smoke there's fire...
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 22, 16 1:07 AM
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"There's a deep-seated paranoia that Americans have about not being Americans or something."

~ Billy Joel
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 23, 16 1:22 AM

Muslim voter registration up 300,000 since '12...

Female Genital Mutilation Rising in USA...

UPDATE: Idaho town torn by alleged rape, fear of refugees...
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 22, 16 8:43 AM
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By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 22, 16 8:50 AM
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"Among the Internet's many gains for humanity, decreasing paranoia has not been one of them. Anything from that lump under your armpit to what's lurking in the sea - just type it into a search engine and watch your nerves explode."

~ John Niven
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 23, 16 1:27 AM
“Donald Trump’s long-awaited speech Wednesday supposedly detailing the dirt he has on Hillary Clinton turned out to be exactly what critics expected: A diatribe of right-wing paranoia seemingly cribbed off all-caps email forwards sent to you by your grandfather. Much of it assumed an audience that already has spent years poring over anti-Clinton urban legends and that gets almost all its news from the Drudge Report.

It is also a fact-checking nightmare, a garbage truck of lies, ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 23, 16 2:06 AM
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Seems as if Trump has the leftists quite concerned , America is not a liberal leaning , Trump might just win!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 23, 16 9:23 PM
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He probably will win. All sorts of alarms going off for Hillary that the DNC is ignoring.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Jun 23, 16 9:37 PM
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Putting a pathological liar in the most powerful office in the world should give anyone concern.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 24, 16 5:46 AM
to marlinspike:


"The Benghazi victims families would agree with that regarding Lying Hillary Clinton."

[Sigh!] No matter how often their smears are proved, OBJECTIVELY, to be lies, the fanatical Right-Wing repeats them, over and over again.

Kim Jong-un would approve.

* "Republicans Leveled By Bombshell Report That Clears Hillary Clinton On Benghazi" ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 24, 16 8:35 AM
Panem et Circenses.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 24, 16 10:14 PM
Trump achieves complete idiot status by congratulating Scotland for taking its country back.

Meanwhile Scotland voted against Brexit and it is expected another Independence referendum will come about in the next two years.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 24, 16 3:16 PM
Support for Spain's conservative party surges days after Brexit...
Political novice wins Iceland presidency in anti-establishment wave...

Fear of being overrun by immigrants was a driving concern for “Leave” voters, who appeared to dominate the conversation on social media. Globalization concerns and a desire to take back Britain were also factors.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 27, 16 7:14 AM
One of the heroic survivors of the Benghazi attack, who held off invading Islamists until rescuers reached the besieged CIA base, has begun a national campaign to counter President Obama’s narrative on the terrorist threat.
Army Ranger Kris Paronto has started a nonprofit called Leading From the Front, a national movement to drive home the real threat Islamic extremists pose to America.
“Radical Islam is at war with America, and we are slowly losing,” Mr. Paronto said. ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 27, 16 7:17 AM
to Undocumented Democrat:

Kris Paronto's complaint is that the state department prefers to form alliances with local forces rather than rely on the US military to impose its will. That opinion is debatable. However, NOT debatable is Mr. Paronto's support of a full-scale military re-invasion of Iraq by the United States.

Einstein's alleged definition of insanity comes to mind.

By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 27, 16 10:13 AM
No more ME wars please, but lets stop letting them in the country to spawn
By smacw (240), New York on Jun 27, 16 10:55 AM
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Bungled CIA Black Op

We told you so:

"Among the revelations in the Committee's 800-page report is that the CIA missed real-time intelligence about the situation on the ground that led the agency to bungle its response to the incident. The government then misled the public about what had happened in the immediate aftermath of the attacks."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 28, 16 6:49 PM
Nothing says ''Presidential'' quite like an ongoing FBI investigation.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Jun 27, 16 10:35 AM
It is plain to see everyone in Europe, is very happy about the Brexit and wishes Britain the very best for her future. In addition, all patriots in Europe want to follow Britain's example and have a referendum in their countries as well. Britain has brought hope to millions, and hopefully abandoned ship in time to avoid going down with it.

Mr Z called us conspiracy theorists. look now, What sheep they all were. It was almost a fatal error for Europe.

Jun 27, 16 8:50 PM appended by joe hampton
First they talk the people out of their arms to defend oneselves now they are talking the leaders out of their military. Gee what could possible go wrong with that????
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 27, 16 8:50 PM

Is that why British citizens are calling for a second vote?

Whose parrot are you today?
Jun 28, 16 6:52 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. Over 3M signatures. Newser: "Be careful what you wish for—or at least anticipate you might get it before you create a petition. In May, before the Brexit vote took place, "Leave" advocate William Oliver Healey created a petition through government channels, calling for a second EU referendum if certain conditions weren't met on the first vote: specifically, if "the remain or leave vote is less than 60% based [on] a turnout less than 75%." (It appears Healey first put the petition up in November and re-upped it in May after it expired.) And that's exactly what happened in Thursday's vote, with the BBC noting the winning "Leave" category only received 52%, with turnout at 72.2%."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 28, 16 6:52 PM
The foreign ministers of France and Germany are due to reveal a blueprint to effectively do away with individual member states in what is being described as an “ultimatum”.

Under the radical proposals EU countries will lose the right to have their own army, criminal law, taxation system or central bank, with all those powers being transferred to Brussels.
Jun 27, 16 8:56 PM appended by joe hampton
Germany and France running Europe? That's a match made in Heaven. The French love bureaucracies and the Germans love rules.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 27, 16 8:56 PM
I don't have a dog in this fight but the Brexit vote was clearly a protest against allowing Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants into the UK. I doubt that many who cast a "Yes" (i.e. "Leave") vote actually expected to win. Now that the unthinkable has happened, and voters are beginning to see the con$equence$ of their protest, remorse has set in.

There will be a re-vote and "No" will win handily. Historically, this episode will be judged similarly (in consequence) to Coke's silly attempt ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jun 28, 16 1:29 AM
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Jun 28, 16 4:12 PM
More Trump lies. Surprise, surprise...

Trump promised millions to charity. We found less than $10,000 over 7 years.
By David A. Fahrenthold June 28 at 6:08 PM

Washington Post reporter David Fahrenthold is investigating how much Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has given to charity in recent years. Here's what he found. (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)

In May, under pressure from the news media, Donald Trump made good on a pledge he ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 28, 16 7:38 PM
Want to talk lies ... Wow lets talk Benghazi! What I can't understand, is the people that are voting for her and not even doubting she's guilty. They just don't care even knowing how corrupt she is, as always I caution everyone to do there own research and not to take the taking points that HHS and Mr Z are sure to post following this NEWS ALERT ...

By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 28, 16 10:06 PM

"For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012.

[In 2011] Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to ...more
Jun 29, 16 6:08 AM appended by Mr. Z
The GOP was warned about the potential effects of their budget cuts. They IGNORED them. FAIL. Is Benghazi really the only dead horse you jokers have left to relentlessly beat?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 29, 16 6:08 AM
Ramadan Rage: Terror Strike at Istanbul Airport…

‘Nearly 50 People’ Dead…

‘Initial indications suggest Islamic State’…
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 28, 16 10:10 PM
I'm a racist homophobe
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Jun 28, 16 10:34 PM
What were they offended about this time?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jun 29, 16 6:29 AM
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 29, 16 10:28 PM

White House Watch
White House Watch: Trump 43%, Clinton 39%

Rasmussen Reports, Thursday, June 30, 2016

The tables have turned in this week’s White House Watch. After trailing Hillary Clinton by five points for the prior two weeks, Donald Trump has now taken a four-point lead.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%. Twelve ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Jun 30, 16 9:04 AM