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Nov 9, 2016 11:42 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Local Residents React To Stunning Trump Victory

Attendees watch the esults come in at LTV Studios in Wainscott.  KYRIL BROMLEY
Nov 10, 2016 2:44 PM

The stunning revolution-by-ballot on Tuesday night that made Donald J. Trump the president-elect had many conscripts on the East End who celebrated the victory—and many others who lamented the outcome on Wednesday morning.

According to the Suffolk County Board of Elections, the county went solidly for Mr. Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton, by a margin of 52.1 to 44 percent. In Southampton and East Hampton towns

Damon Hagan, the Southampton Town Republican Party chairman, was a supporter of Mr. Trump from the earliest part of his campaign, and he was celebrating his candidate’s upset win on Wednesday morning by echoing Mr. Trump’s campaign slogan.

“We, the people, have come together in a movement like no other to elevate a political outsider to the highest office in the land,” he said. “Now is the time to all come together to begin to work to make America great again.”

He credited the victory with the same thing that drew him to Mr. Trump early in the campaign: his promise to disrupt the status quo. “I think it’s the same thing that attracted voters throughout the country—the electorate has become tired of the career politicians in Washington, and they were looking for an outside and unique voice to bring an alternative perspective to running this government,” he said.

Mr. Trump comes from a long line of businessmen and farmers who served in government for short terms and then returned to the private sector, he said. He also believes Mr. Trump’s business background was key: “I believe that the state of the economy in the nation, and especially in those areas, is what drew so many swing states to Mr. Trump.”

He added that, as the winning candidate said early Wednesday morning in his victory speech, it was time for the nation to “come together and be stronger for it.”

His counterpart, Southampton Town Democratic Party Chairman Gordon Herr, admitted to being in “shock” at an outcome that no major poll had predicted.

“What can I say? The people have spoken,” he said by phone Wednesday morning in a soft voice. “I’m very unhappy and disturbed. Because I think this is not just about America—it’s about the world.”

He added that with Republicans controlling the White House, both houses of Congress and, most likely, several Supreme Court nominations, “Everything we worked for, for so long, is going to be destroyed in four years.”

A short time later, he struck a conciliatory tone in a statement: “I hope President Trump can find it in his heart to be president for all Americans, and that the enormous responsibility of being president will yield a more circumspect approach as he grapples with issues facing the country. As a Democrat, I know that there are still issues of paramount importance that we will continue to fight for.”

‘Hard To Fathom’

On the streets locally on Wednesday morning, the night’s drama was beginning to sink in, for better or worse.

At the 7-Eleven in Southampton Village, Jhon Varilla, a 22-year-old Southampton resident, said he felt good about the outcome: “I can tell we’re going to have better opportunities for work.”

On the other hand, another Southampton resident, George Seymour, said, “It’s really messed up. I don’t think Donald Trump is the right person to be a leader. I think Hillary Clinton would have been the better choice. I don’t think men were ready to have a woman in that position.”

Ed Dressler, also a resident of Southampton, said he was “amazed, stunned but accepting” of the election results.

“It’s crazy,” Angelica Castellanos said while on her way to get coffee in Bridgehampton. “I am surprised.”

Ms. Castellanos, a Miller Place native, voted on Tuesday and said she felt the country needed to accept the results. “It is what it is,” she added. “It hope it is not as bad as people are thinking.”

Several people approached in Bridgehampton’s business district on Wednesday morning declined to provide reactions. One Sag Harbor resident on her way to walk on the beach, who would not give her name, summed up her feelings on the election in one word: “Wow.”

Another woman, from Sagaponack, said she felt like the election, and possibly the next four years, will be “like ‘Saturday Night Live’ every day.”

Connie Mui-Reilly said the most difficult aspect of the election results for her is trying to explain the president-elect to her 14-year-old daughter and 9-year-old son. “When you teach your children not to be a bully, and to be kind and understanding to everyone, and to respect women, this is hard to explain,” she said. “To have this person become the leader of the free market … it’s hard to fathom.”

She said she anticipates explaining to them that since the United States is a democracy, the best thing for everyone to do is work together. “Love trumps hate and fear,” she said.

Bill Jones, a Hampton Bays resident and former deputy supervisor for Southampton Town, was a staunch supporter throughout Mr. Trump’s campaign. The former Republican—he dropped any party affiliation out of disgust for the state of politics in Washington, D.C.—called Tuesday’s result “a stunning victory that affirms that voters believe America is on the wrong track and her course must be reversed.”

He added: “My day-after question is whether or not the establishment will heed the message of the need for change by turning away from the liberal policies that have crushed the American dream.”

‘A Level Of Fear’

On Wednesday morning, Ecuadorian native Segundo Tenesaca of Hampton Bays, who owns Baymen Deli on Main Street in the hamlet, said that he hopes the new president will help bring in new jobs. Although Mr. Tenesaca, who said he didn’t support either candidate during the election season, acknowledged that he’s not fond of Mr. Trump’s harsh language and disrespect to women and people in the Hispanic community, he is optimistic that the new president will help the economy. “I think he’s a good business guy,” he said.

He said he hopes to see Mr. Trump create more full-time jobs for people and encourage corporations to hire people in America instead of building factories overseas to make their products.

“The only thing I don’t like is when he talks about people from Central America or Mexico,” said Mr. Tenesaca. “He thinks everyone is Mexican—but that’s not true.”

Mr. Trump’s campaign rhetoric, promising to build a wall along the southern border with Mexico and forcing the deportation of millions of undocumented workers, was ominous to Minerva Perez, executive director of Organizacion Latino-Americana, a local group focusing on the East End’s growing Latino community, some members of which are undocumented.

“There’s definitely a level of fear,” she said Wednesday morning. “We’ve already seen that violence comes from those words, from condoning that sentiment toward other persons. We have people living in very vulnerable circumstances. It’s not just feelings—I’m worried about the actual violence.”

The notion of widespread deportation worries her most, she said. “If that actually comes to pass in some kind of really aggressive way, I don’t think any of us know what to expect with that,” she said. “It’s not just the problems for the Latino community but for our economy here, the engine that runs our economy. We don’t know what to expect. It’s not just the workers, it’s all of us—that’s something we should be bracing ourselves for.”

Another member of OLA, Oswaldo “Ozzy” Palomo, noted that Donald Trump is a catalyst, but the concern among the immigrant community is not new. “It’s about the reality we’ve been living with for the last 40, 50 years,” he said Wednesday. “The law hasn’t been adjusted. Something has to happen … This country is based on immigrants. But I don’t think anything is going to happen.”

Elena Urbano, an immigrant who has lived in Hampton Bays for 15 years and is a permanent resident of the United States, reacted Wednesday morning to Mr. Trump’s election: “I’m so sad, I’m very sad.”

She said she did not want Mr. Trump to become president because of his ideas and his treatment of women. She anticipates that when he takes office, it will not be good for immigrants.

Christian Martinez, a young man who has lived in Hampton Bays his whole life, said he was hoping Mr. Trump would win because he is honest and trustworthy. “I think he’s going to do well and help people get more opportunities,” he said Wednesday morning, adding that he also anticipates that, along with good ideas, there will be bad ideas, and Mr. Trump may start a new war, and there could be chaos.

In Real Time

Such mixed reactions also were evident on Tuesday night as people viewed the results in real time, either at informal gatherings or at party events.

“It’s a tough decision,” said Dave Zak of Southampton as he sipped a beer inside of Buckley’s Inn Between on Tuesday night. To him, Ms. Clinton was the only serious candidate.

“I don’t think Trump thought he would get this far,” said Mr. Zak, suggesting that Mr. Trump’s run was merely a publicity stunt. “I don’t think he even wants to be president.”

“I’m completely mesmerized that the country is so split,” noted Karl Macdonald of Hampton Bays. “We have two people who no one wants to be president.”

Mr. Macdonald, who opted to vote for third-party candidate Gary Johnson, couldn’t take his eyes off the TV screen inside the Mill Roadhouse in Westhampton Beach on Tuesday night. “This looks like it’s going to go on all night,” he said.

Earlier in the night, Mr. Macdonald speculated that if Mr. Trump won, the real estate mogul wouldn’t take his new position seriously. “He doesn’t care about this,” he said. “He’s going to be so proud with his victory that nothing will get done.”

Others inside the Mill Roadhouse in Westhampton Beach watching the returns kept repeating one observation: “This is like a reality show.”

The close race was unsurprising to another patron, Matthew Zimmer of Westhampton. “This is every election,” he said.

Mr. Zimmer, who said he didn’t support either candidate, explained that he is putting his faith in the Constitution to make sure Americans’ rights continue to stay protected. “It’s an amazing document—it governs all of us,” Mr. Zimmer said. “The checks and balances would control Trump.”

“I’m just flabbergasted in general,” said Amanda Macdonald of Hampton Bays as she watched Mr. Trump taking the lead on Tuesday night at the Mill Roadhouse. She said she could not believe that Trump took Florida—a swing state that she expected to come out blue. “I’m shocked,” she said.

“I’m surprised Florida swayed,” added Maria Pamboris of East Moriches.

“It’s obvious that people aren’t happy,” said Karl Macdonald of Hampton Bays. Everyone surrounding him in the Mill Roadhouse agreed.

The Big Screen

Bay Street Theater in Sag Harbor hosted a livestream of the election results, though only a small crowd gathered early on to watch CNN on the large screen. There was a quiet demeanor among those watching the election results. Attendees’ eyes were glued to the screen like they were watching the climax to a great drama.

Oddly enough, most of the talking occurred in the lobby. Sag Harbor resident Roman Krugovykh, who did not register to vote in this year’s election, still said he recognized the importance of this historic moment.

“It seemed that New York was a foregone conclusion,” he said. “I mean, everyone talks about how New York is a blue state by default. I lean toward more liberal, social policies and am fairly fiscally conservative, and there wasn’t a candidate that represented my interest”

Andrew Bedini, also of Sag Harbor, voted for “whoever got the best degree, whoever was the most educated”—he went with Green Party candidate Jill Stein. He also participated in some spirited conversation about the negatives of Mr. Trump.

By 9 p.m. the crowd watching the livestream remained silent as the early election results started coming in. A group of younger voters in attendance said they felt as if they were stuck between a rock and a hard place when it came time to vote for a candidate.

“They’re both corrupt,” Sophia Fernandez, 18, of Sag Harbor said. “Trump is just evil. I voted for Hillary because she’s not inherently evil.”

“I spent about 10 minutes in the voting booth trying to pick who to vote for,” said Mary Ring, 24, of Sayville. “Trump just kinda came up saying these awful things. Hillary has scandal after scandal, like the Benghazi situation.”

Adrian Stivala, 24, of Sag Harbor pointed out how social media played a role in informing the younger voters of the election—or perhaps misinforming them. “Social media has become a main service of information, but it cuts out a lot of information and focuses on buzzwords,” he said. “I’m not sure if we’re uninformed or overly informed and disillusioned. I’m not happy tonight with a Clinton victory, but I’m counting on it as a last hope.”

As the night went on and election results came in that favored Mr. Trump, the audience at Bay Street become more and more concerned. The stress on their faces, the gasps of surprise, and the volume of their reactions seemed to show a sense of surprise to how the night played out.

“In general, it’s much more close than I expected,” said Rudy Lemp, a Southampton resident of 12 years formerly of Germany. “It’s so strange seeing this through the eyes of a foreigner, how a man with such language and background is so close to the presidency.”

The Dust Settles

Attendees at the Democratic Committee headquarters gathering in Hauppauge increasingly expressed concern as Mr. Trump closed in on victory.

“Trump represents evil,” said Sandra Thomas of Babylon, shaking her head. “This is wrong. I’m shocked and upset that so many people are supporting him. His racism and intolerance … it’s Hitler all over again.”

“He thinks everything’s a joke,” chimed in Gene Blanding, also from Babylon.

“Talking about grabbing women by the genitals? It’s a sin and a shame,” Ms. Thomas replied.

When asked what the two women would do if Mr. Trump were elected president, Ms. Thomas replied, “We’re all going to enforce our Second Amendment rights.”

As the dust settled on Wednesday morning, even in the bright comfort of the Golden Pear Cafe in Sag Harbor, the election was on the tip of everyone’s tongue.

What’s next? John Louise, 87, offered this: “This is the people’s chance to say, ‘Listen, we’re someone. We’re worth something.’ And, hopefully, our new president will do what he says he going to do, at least try to do it, and then if he manages to get a certain percentage of it, we’ll be way ahead.”

He called Mr. Trump’s election “a riot” and added, “I think he will surround himself with the best brains in the country. That’s what he’s going to do, because he’s a corporate person, and a corporation, a good CEO, and a good president will surround himself with brains so that they get proper advice, they get proper information about what’s going on. So, actually, I’m not unhappy.”

Bob Stone, 72, of Sag Harbor admitted he was surprised by Mr. Trump’s win and said, “Like he said in his acceptance speech, he’s gotta unite this whole country.”

“If you break the election down,” Wayne Jacobs, 63, continued on Mr. Stone’s train of thought, “being a businessman, he took the election as a street fight. Whatever it took to win, he was winning. Now that he’s won, he’s gotta do a great job. He knows how to build things. Hopefully—which is a big hope—he’ll go and keep that up.”

Across town, Michael O’Hara of Hampton Bays sat in the Starbucks in that hamlet, soaking in the results of the election, and coming to terms with President-elect Donald J. Trump.

“I’m not too keen about him, but it is what it is,” Mr. O’Hara said. “But I can’t complain, because I didn’t vote.”

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"STUNNING?" Really? Just because of the crooked media and the ridiculous polls didnt change the reality of this election. The middle class is struggling, and Obamacare broke the bank. We need to take care of America's first not every liberal cause we cant afford. Go Trump!
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 9, 16 12:47 PM
Don't forget about the struggles of the rich too. Poor 1%... If only Trump's tax plan could go into effect immediately to give them some relief right away. It really hurts my heart. Doesn't matter how much the national debt will increase, they need help!!!
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 9, 16 4:06 PM
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Maybe they can write off all their campaign contributions to Clinton somehow? That may help.
By jams (129), hampton bays on Nov 10, 16 10:08 AM
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Let the media eat cake
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on Nov 9, 16 12:48 PM
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the Hillary loving CNNers were almost in tears Donald owes them a "thanks"

By hamptonsnrcit (47), sag harbor on Nov 9, 16 1:01 PM
A sad, dark day for America.
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Nov 9, 16 1:59 PM
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I'm not going anywhere. That's the beauty of democracy. I will be right here, calling it like I see it.
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Nov 9, 16 2:25 PM
congratulations to kellyanne conway the first woman to run a winning presidential campaign !
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 9, 16 3:41 PM
Not if you're a shareholder in Kimberly-Clark. They own Kleenex.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 9, 16 7:34 PM
I just hope that Trump can stick to his campaign promise to make America great again. It would be a huge let down if he cannot actually do that, would really disenfranchise people I think.

Very excited to see what our new and great America looks like, I hope that the plan less traffic.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 9, 16 2:25 PM
Clinton won the popular vote, and there are still those who are anti Trump. Electoral College votes are not guaranteed until after December 12th.

Don't count your chickens before they hatch...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 9, 16 3:26 PM
That's a real reach Z? What are you suggesting? Civil war?
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Nov 9, 16 6:40 PM
It's not a reach at all. It's the way the system works. There is no law in twenty one states which stipulates an elector must cast a ballot as "pledged". In fact, there has never been a challenge to a state law requiring an elector to vote as pledged. Seems to me forcing someone to vote a certain way by law is unconstitutional. In fact, the People spoke in the popular vote. Trump lost that vote. A dissenting "faithless elector" is not unheard of in United States history. Remember, "dissent ...more
Nov 9, 16 7:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
And don't forget that should Trump lose the suit against him and Trump University, the fraud and racketeering charges are grounds for impeachment.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 9, 16 7:12 PM
Trump will be president. Live with it
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Nov 10, 16 7:04 AM
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That's exactly what we did with Bush 2.0 until the Reign of Error was over. Economic meltdown and all...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 10, 16 7:13 AM
Boo freaking hoo.
By razza5350 (1911), East Hampton on Nov 10, 16 1:29 PM
She won the popular vote by dead people voting, people voting twice, and the ballots being changed after people voted for Trump ! Who are you kidding !!
By bayview (160), Southampton on Nov 10, 16 7:56 PM
LET THE PEOPLE RULE!

Congratulations to all the people on this site that worked so tirelessly to shine light on the corruption of the Clinton administration , bring justice to the forefront and Make America Great Again !
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 9, 16 3:32 PM
This day just keeps getting better, Girls star Lena Dunham just tweeted there is a “100 percent chance” she will pick up and move to Canada since Trump has prevailed on Election Day.

Whooooooo Can I drive you the the Boarder?
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 9, 16 3:49 PM
Heatstreet By Emily Zanotti | 1:39 pm, November 9, 2016

Canadians Don’t Want America-Fleeing Liberals (Especially Lena Dunham)

Just read if there’s anyone Canada really doesn’t want, among the number of celebrities who “seriously’ pledged to move north, it’s Girls star Lena Dunham (though, it seems, they’d also prefer not to house either Miley Cyrus or Amy Schumer).
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 9, 16 8:10 PM
Back to Normal ,

Trump invites Netanyahu to the US at 'the first possible opportunity' just hours after the Israeli PM called the president-elect a 'true friend'
Benjamin Netanyahu welcomed Donald Trump as new American president
'I look forward to working with him to advance security,' Israeli leader said
His Education Minister said it marked the end of idea of Palestinian state


By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 9, 16 4:00 PM
We Iive in a Republic not a democracy
By Charlie42 (5), Southampton on Nov 9, 16 4:06 PM
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You spelled oligarchy wrong.
By Pacman (273), East Quogue on Nov 9, 16 4:12 PM
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He spelled polyarchy wrong too.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 9, 16 4:15 PM
A simple Democracy is "Mob Rule" we live in a
"Democratic Republic"
By JoyRemax (1), Huntington on Nov 10, 16 1:33 PM
When do the deportations of all the illegals start? This area needs to be cleansed in a big way. Will us citizens be able to help in the effort to toss out the illegals? They ALL need to go & go now.
By G (342), Southampton on Nov 9, 16 4:07 PM
"Cleansed"? Really, that's your word choice?
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 9, 16 5:15 PM
Thanks! At least I'm not the only one who sees that as a problem. The only ones who don't are the business owners because they need cheap labor. Cleansed is right. Don't let these trolls twist your words up, either. G is on the money
By **HBQueenBee** (46), Hampton Bays on Nov 10, 16 9:57 AM
Cheap labor ? My guys make $16 to $42 an hour . Nothing cheap about it !

If non Spanish came to apply for work and were willing to do the job like they are, I would hire them in a minute ! Like I have stated here many times before... I have not had a serious non Latino applicant come in looking for work in years!

Spanish people work very hard and they deserve to be paid for that dedication. The problem is they are here illegally!

It was us that let them come without ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 10, 16 10:34 AM
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You guys know that this is never going to happen, right? Trump sold you a lie and you took the bait. Local business would collapse without cheap labor. I'd like to see some of you pick up a rake and go to work instead of poisoning the minds of our children with your hate speech.
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Nov 10, 16 11:15 AM
Are you telling us you are breaking the law employing undocumented workers?
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 10, 16 11:25 AM
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I do not see where he said that.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 10, 16 11:32 AM
very little response to my post above... Interesting how the left ignores what they do not want to discuss
Nov 11, 16 12:25 PM appended by joe hampton
I find it amazing how the lib hacks on this site always go to the default position of blame the employer... In one breath you desperately want to bust the business owners for hiring Illegal workers... In the next your upset at when ICE or Border control tries to do It's job ? So what are all these "undocumented" people supposed to do when they are allowed to stay here ? Rob banks ? or just collect government assistance ?
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 11, 16 12:25 PM
What is there to respond to? You said what we know already- Latino workers do the jobs that middle class white men do not want to do. I am happy that you compensate them well but the fact still remains that if you were to lose your employees overnight in a mass deportation you would go out of business. You and thousands of other companies. So again, what Trump has promised Middle America is NEVER going to happen. I mean, you said it so yourself so I'm confused as to who you're arguing with and this ...more
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Nov 11, 16 12:55 PM
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Joe once again you raise a good point . If we are not supposed to hire the Illegals like June seems to imply than what would they do to eat ? Sponge off our tax dollars? deal drugs ?

What would you have them do June ? Play X Box all Day ?
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 11, 16 1:35 PM
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Hey Joe. I'm honestly a bit confused as to why you're coming down on the left and "lib hacks" when your own posts are in agreement with the liberal point of view and in direct opposition to the far right position presented by G and HBQueenB, who both seem to support deportation of ALL illegal immigrants.

Your posts actually present sentiment that most liberals would agree with. You've said outright that you support some form of amnesty for illegal immigrants, which is how the vast majority ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 11, 16 1:38 PM
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Undocumented - sorry did not mean to like your post. I think the point June was making is that it seems hypocritical to both take the viewpoint that illegal immigrants shouldn't be here and should all be deported, but at the same time illegally exploit the cheap labor (and other conveniences) they provide. Yes, they are here illegally, but you're also employing them illegally..

Also - many people think that if employers didn't hire them, they wouldn't be here in droves, especially on the ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 11, 16 1:55 PM
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I think where we differ is on the path to citizenship, you can not just storm the gates to jump ahead of the system and then try and " fundamentally change the country".

If you came here to work and our country did nothing to stop you for 10 years, that is one thing that we can discuss, but if you expect to take this country over through the ballot box... NO WAY JOSE !

And as far as the Muslim refugee thing goes...

I am sorry but those people must go back to where they ...more
Nov 11, 16 4:28 PM appended by 27dan
* a lot
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 11, 16 4:28 PM
Hey 27dan. Maybe you could elaborate on what you think the liberal idea for a path to citizenship is, because I'm not sure you've got it right. I don't know a single liberal who thinks people should be able to "storm the gates" and become citizens. Could you explain your perspective?

By "Muslim refugees" are you referring to Syrian refugees who are LEGAL immigrants? If so, I find your opinion to be fundamentally unAmerican. We are a country of immigrants, as well as one that stands up for ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 11, 16 7:35 PM
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So, you simply pick and choose which laws you decide to obey?
No, you are not supposed to hire the undocumented (no human being is "illegal", by the way). You are forbidden to hire them, yet you do and fail to accept the fact that you are breaking the law. On top of it, you claim some kind of altruism in doing so when your object is merely to have a pool of cheap help.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 11, 16 8:05 PM
Joe, serious question - are you hiring?

By susgeek (41), Speonk on Nov 17, 16 2:18 PM
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to They call me:

Horrific, if true. But let's wait and see whether the president of the greatest Liberal democratic republic in the world endorses the theft of thousands of of square miles of occupied West Bank territory that is the property of innocent Palestinian Muslims.

(We already know that Lee Zeldin does.)
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 9, 16 4:13 PM
Trump to Highhatsize: You're fired!
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 9, 16 4:15 PM
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HHS , So, how ARE things going on Left-Wing parallel Earth? Are Elvis and Lord Lucan still in good health?
Nov 9, 16 5:42 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
I had no idea just how good that would feel !
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 9, 16 5:42 PM
Innocent Palestinian.....where should I begin. First what a perfect example of an oxymoron. Also there is no such thing as a Palestinian. Palestine is the name of a region , not a state or nation. And it's Judea and Samaria, not the west bank. Your turn.
By Biba (566), East Hampton on Nov 10, 16 2:05 PM
to Biba:

Whatever you want to call them, they were driven from their homes by Israeli invaders who then occupied their land and prevented them from returning. This includes women and children and other non-combatants whose numbers hugely exceeded those residents who were fighters. Israel's continued occupation violates the Geneva Accords and has been condemned by every nation and every international organization for peace and justice that has commented on it.

Judea and Samaria ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 10, 16 2:51 PM
Do you guys think that America will be great again after the first few months of Trump's Presidency or more towards the end, like a parting gift?

I hope it happens somewhere towards the middle so we have some time to get used to it.

I'm actually starting to worry that I may have voted for the wrong candidate, I want America to be great but I dont really see any plan for this. It's a pretty big task.

I hope he bans lawnmowers, blowers, and construction before 10am and ...more
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 9, 16 4:28 PM
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to Undocumented Democrat:

Everything's A-OK, Undocumented Democrat.

I am disappointed, of course, but glad to know that the Democrats in the Senate can still prevent The Donald and his psychopathic familiars from annihilating the sick and the poor (although the image of his finger on the nuclear trigger IS terrifying.)

But how about you? It appears that you are still retreading my analogies rather than thinking up clever ones of your own. Oh, well, you ARE a Right-Winger. ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 9, 16 6:19 PM
Glad to hear it,

FYI Obama care will be repealed

and by the way did you see the Analysis: Trump Would Have Beaten Obama in '12...
Nov 10, 16 8:05 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 9, 16 8:05 PM
Lawrence O'Donnell just explained the complexities of repealing Obamacare because of the provisions and tax revenue implications, and how deeply embedded the bill is in terms of layers of government. Said repeal would, among other things, necessitate increase in Medicare spending which the Republicans would oppose. Said repeal is highly unlikely.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 10, 16 11:39 AM
MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell: Trump Is 'Mentally Ill'
MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell (AP)
By Todd Beamon | Tuesday, 03 Aug 2016 12:13 PM

MSNBC host Lawrence O'Donnell Wednesday raised the issue of Donald Trump's mental capacity to serve as president, saying that "somebody has got to do a psychological profile and figure out why he acts the way he acts." This man will never see the inside of the White House

"It's becoming more and more clear that the biggest disqualifying ...more
Nov 10, 16 12:20 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Good source once again June, Try watching something other than MSNBC once and awhile
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 10, 16 12:20 PM
Anyone with eyes to see recognizes Trump's seriously concerning psychological disorders--the narcissism, the petulance and need for revenge, e.g. And anyone can be wrong about predictions, myself included. Never in a million years did I think millions (but fewer than who voted for Sec'y. Clinton) would overlook his outrageous statements, admitted sexual assaults, conflicts of interest, refusal to produce tax returns, racism, mysogyny, marital history, rape and fraud charges, profound ignorance ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 10, 16 1:29 PM
GET OVER IT JUNE, Hillary had her prodigious posterior kicked by Trump, he will be our president and she will relegated to the dung heap of history where she so rightly belongs.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 11, 16 6:32 AM
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Wow talk about stockholm syndrome, June snap out of it. the Clintons are proving to be the most corrupt political family in history. Stop taking it so personal and move on. Starting to look ridiculous
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on Nov 11, 16 8:59 AM
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Getting a 4 year supply of popcorn, putting my feet up and laughing my a** off while watching the stunned look on the faces of Trump voters when that wall doesn't get built, immigration continues, those jobs don't come back, those businesses continue to leave for China, their taxes don't go down (unless they're billionaires), the soldiers don't come home and when trump continues the adventure in Syria.

There's no way Trump will be allowed to drop out of meddling in the Middle East anymore ...more
By Christine C (1), Hampton bays on Nov 9, 16 7:00 PM
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Probably no journalist better qualified to prepare us re: Trump than David Cay Johnston.


Why Voters Elected President Donald J. Trump—and Why They’ll Regret It
Nearly 50 years of income stagnation explain why Americans went with a commander in chief obsessed with revenge.
David Cay Johnston
DAVID CAY JOHNSTON

11.09.16 6:00 PM ET
The Age of Reagan is over.
Just as Reagan’s 1980 election ended the New Deal era of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 9, 16 8:10 PM
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June, let's make that a bit more readable. Anyone who read his book knows he's more of a criminal that Hillary was branded as. Looks those Republican cuts to education finally paid dividends.


Why Voters Elected President Donald J. Trump—and Why They’ll Regret It
David Cay Johnston11.09.16 6:00 PM ET


Nearly 50 years of income stagnation explain why Americans went with a commander in chief obsessed with revenge.

The Age of Reagan is over.

Just ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 9, 16 8:43 PM
David Cay Johnston, Li'l Ms.J.Bug? Really?!?

Tell us now, how much are you going to spend of the next four years pouting and mining the internet for anything that slams President-Elect Trump?

And why are you at your keyboard instead of marching in midtown NYC with your fellow embittered "fanatic Progressives?"



By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Nov 9, 16 11:09 PM
Yeah, Pulitzer prize winning investigative journalist who wrote a really great expose on Trump's significant criminality.

But I'm sure you have a host of Pulitzers hanging on your refrigerator, right Frank?
Nov 9, 16 11:17 PM appended by Mr. Z
Let's see what you're made of Frank. This is a short read. Thumb it, and get back to us: The Making of Donald Trump By David Cay Johnston
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 9, 16 11:17 PM
Thx, much better. Will follow suit in future.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 10, 16 11:29 AM
Politico: Trump Poised to Erase Obama Policies

Donald Trump has pledged to “reform the entire regulatory code,” to “cancel immediately all illegal and overreaching executive orders,” and to place a “temporary moratorium on new agency regulations that are not compelled by Congress or public safety.”

On the chopping block will be regulations to address climate change (which he’s labeled a Chinese hoax); to implement Obamacare (“a disaster”); ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 10, 16 11:29 AM
Like your word is the Gospel.
By kiddio (16), Naples on Nov 12, 16 11:08 PM
This was only stunning if you relied on the mainstream media for your information and refused to believe your ''lying eyes''.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 9, 16 7:33 PM
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Just for reference:

John McDonald
Nov 07, 2016

Donald Trump has been in my sights since I was a young lawyer doing government investigations in Washington, D.C. in the 1970s. He was not as well known outside Manhattan in those days, but he was beginning his playboy wanderings that attracted the attention of the dailies, the medium that David Cay Johnston calls Trump's Twitter of the era.

Johnston is an investigative journalist by trade, and, from reading his book, ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 9, 16 10:34 PM
Gotta love the metro sexuals and assorted losers who protested last night. Grow up and deal
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 10, 16 4:56 AM
It's over now, Let the PC snowflakes walk through the streets till there shoes were out. Then they will have to study, graduate and get jobs
Nov 10, 16 7:07 AM appended by 27dan
wear
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 10, 16 7:07 AM
In America we get to express ourselves. As you have with your protestations and disrespect of President Obama which this list has put up with for the last how many years? Can you not resist resorting to name-calling when you disagree? It's not fun when the shoe is on the other foot, right?
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 10, 16 10:48 AM
No its not fun !

"Dream on.
28% registered Republicans have voted for Clinton in early Florida voting. Only 6% of registered Dems have crossed over to Trump.
Stick a fork in him, he's done. "

By June Bug (339), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 16 10:15 PM

STICK A FORK IN HER ! SHES DONE AND HER HUSBAND TOO !
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 10, 16 11:02 AM
Citizens across the country voted Trump because they’re pissed off about Obama Care, endless wars, higher taxes, and a crony-controlled economy.

The DNC controlled media manipulated the polls (eliminate any 3rd party contribution to real discussion), controlled the headlines, etc.

On election night, right above the election results CNN.com decided to post the DOW futures, which were low at the moment. Since when are the futures posted as part of the election results, if ...more
By susgeek (41), Speonk on Nov 10, 16 8:36 AM
God bless America, please!
By MaryGrady (40), on Nov 10, 16 8:40 AM
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Why are people, inappropriately in my view, posting collums and articles in the comments section?
By Duckbornandraised (184), Eastport on Nov 10, 16 8:43 AM
C'mon, PeeWee, don't you think that deserves a more thoughtful answer?

Weellll, I do -- in many instances, those who are cribbing wholesale from other sources simply are, in their shock and disbelief, unable to articulate what they are feeling, so they glom onto someone who can.

I get that -- the emotions are crippling their own skills of expression, so cut them a little slack, and hope that their bitterness with gradually subside.



By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Nov 10, 16 11:32 AM
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So tempting is the schadenfreude.

...must resist
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 10, 16 8:48 AM
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You get the government that you deserve................
By MTKGRL (15), Floral Park on Nov 10, 16 9:35 AM
WE THE PEOPLE ...
Nov 10, 16 10:12 AM appended by joe hampton
And to the Republic for which it stands...
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 10, 16 10:12 AM
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Actually voted to elect Hillary. Too bad for the electoral college.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 10, 16 7:02 PM
The election is over.. Enough with the name calling and blaming. Lets come together and unify as a country. As human beings and work together toward peace not be so divided.
By Hillsnbells (43), Southampton on Nov 10, 16 10:19 AM
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i can't wait for Trump to take office so we can finally get around to overturning Roe V. Wade and making all abortions illegal.

finally!
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 10, 16 10:44 AM
You have quite the flare for sarcasm madam!

I would ask you to go and observe a 2nd or 3rd trimester hi resolution sonogram and see how good you feel about your opinions then.

By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 10, 16 10:51 AM
I was serious!
I am excited to see abortion become illegal here, that's why i voted for Trump!

Once we can also do away with birth control and contraceptives the party will really get started!! Lord Jesus is coming back to rule us all, finally we can return to the moral high-ground of earth.
It sickens me that my children have to learn about sex at school and can even receive tools to prevent life (pregnancy) at the place where they are supposed to be educated.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 10, 16 11:03 AM
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Jesus is coming back? I though we were trying to get rid of the Latinos.
By fire11 (276), east hampton on Nov 10, 16 11:52 AM
It looks like Donna Brazil forgot to give Hillary a CNN cheat sheet on what to say in a concession speech
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 10, 16 12:59 PM
Why aren't we talking about Hillary's emails anymore? Oh right, because it was just a campaign tactic and not a matter of national security. 'Comrade' sure has a nice ring to it, doesn't it? Get used it folks. Hope you like vodka.
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Nov 10, 16 1:00 PM
because no one wants to talk about shillary anymore. we want her to go home and shut up. we've all had enough of the clintons
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Nov 10, 16 1:05 PM
Your hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of the right is stunning. The blood of innocent Americans will be on all of your hands.
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Nov 11, 16 10:11 AM
You mean like the Benghazi blood on Hillary's hands? Democrats give a new meaning to the word hypocrisy.
By Taz (725), East Quogue on Nov 11, 16 10:29 AM
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"What difference does it make"
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 11, 16 1:27 PM
I think my favorite Trump lie was NAFTA. George Bush negotiated NAFTA based on an earlier deal Reagan implemented with Canada. It was so important to Bush that they had a ceremonial signing for him before he left office because it hadn't finished making its way through Congress before he had to leave office.

But sure, it was Clinton's fault.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 10, 16 5:48 PM
once fox called wi for mr trump at around 11 pm est, i switched over to cnn to see how long it would take them to call wi for mr trump and effectively the election. well for the next three hours they literally tried to find votes for clinton anywhere they could and refused to call the election for donald, in every single county in every remaining swing state. I still think they are trying to find votes for her now. that was also the last time I will ever watch cnn, msnbc and the rest of the msm, ...more
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 10, 16 7:07 PM
You do realize that an automatic recount is triggered when the margin of victory is one half of a percentage point or less in many states, right? 30,000 votes is pretty close to razor thin...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 10, 16 7:11 PM
HILLARY LOSES Arozonia !

HILLARY LOSES Arozonia !

HILLARY LOSES Arozonia !

I'll be in the basment .
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Nov 10, 16 7:56 PM
"Holy Janus, Batman!"

“Mr. President it was a great honor to be with you, and I look forward to being with you many, many more times in the future."

~ Donald J. Trump
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 10, 16 7:36 PM
Hillary won the popular vote because it was rigged. Dead people voted, ballots were changed, people voted twice ! Give me a break !!
By bayview (160), Southampton on Nov 10, 16 7:52 PM
"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy." ~ Donald J. Trump
Nov 10, 16 8:55 PM appended by Mr. Z
Approximately 45 million Americans cast a vote for a Democratic Senate candidate, while approximately 39 million Americans voted for a Republican. Yet, the Republicans control the Senate. Things that make you go "Hmmmm"...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 10, 16 8:55 PM
All the grumbling, the biggest historical moment, you're all just bystanders. Shame on all who don't try. Do something. Buy American, hire American, respect our laws. Things could get better for those who have been forgotten. Then we could ALL claim credit. Don't hope for failure, Love America and your fellow Americans. Thank your lucky stars for your god fortune extend your hand to help those less fortunate. Pass it on....
By TheTurtle (143), Southampton on Nov 10, 16 9:18 PM
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Dear Reverend The Turtle:
Can I assume this is meant for Mr. Trump who builds with Chinese steel, hires undocumented workers, and has his clothing line made in China? And who also is presently in court defending himself against criminal charges? Oh, I thought so.
Yours sincerely, A Bystander
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 11, 16 2:01 PM
June bug, We will know soon enough if President Trump is a hypocrite. Meanwhile, just keep hating your new president and praying he will fail. If he succeeds, we all benefit. I feel rather sad for you and others who resist supporting our new president. This is why reading most of the posts here are depressing. I have been at fault, I now try to be a better person.
In the past new presidents were given a soft pass for their first 100 days, lighten up, give him a chance. You could always double ...more
By TheTurtle (143), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 4:18 AM
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By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 11, 16 7:07 AM
A protester was found sobbing in her safe space. Apparently, while burning the flag, she charred her brand new coexist T-shirt.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 11, 16 7:07 AM
the students at Yale are too "emotionally distressed" to attend class or take exams which are now "optional" May I suggest all you fragile, delicate "students" pack up your dorm rooms, stop wasting daddy's money, get a job and join the rest of us in the real world. (I tried calling in to work "emotionally distressed" today. I was told if I don't come to work today, don't bother coming in on Monday)
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Nov 11, 16 11:41 AM
Orange Lives Matter
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 11, 16 1:26 PM
When I was 19 if I tried to say I was emotionally distressed I got special treatment...

How does 100 pushups at 0400 sound?
By Draggerman (955), Southampton on Nov 11, 16 1:42 PM
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Totally, whenever my sisters and I cried or thought something was unfair, our father would take us downstairs and give us a few lashings with his belt...which hurt. Sure we would cry more and sometimes bleed or bruise from the lashings but we sure did learn not to question authority ever again, and we've turned out great.
This is how my husband and I raise our children today and it works! Every so often they think they're special enough to step out of line...oh and when they do they receive ...more
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 11, 16 2:07 PM
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By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 11, 16 3:29 PM
surly you are not for real, i find your sarcasm to be not even remotely amusing .


Guess you had a rough week, poor thing
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 11, 16 4:32 PM
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It's one thing to abuse your children. Its an entirely different issue to brag about it anonymously online.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 13, 16 6:44 AM
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CPS should be looking at you!!! child beater!!
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 11, 16 2:57 PM
THE CON IS UNDERWAY.....
(Oh, and just to digress a bit, anyone see Trump do anything to honor veterans today?)

'Drain The Swamp'? Trump Stocks His Transition Team With Lobbyists

ByALLEGRA KIRKLAND
PublishedNOVEMBER 11, 2016, 2:04 PM EDT

After campaigning on a promise to “drain the swamp” in Washington, D.C., President-elect Donald Trump is stocking his transition team with lobbyists for major energy and communications corporations.

A ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 11, 16 5:11 PM
Lots of crying going on in this thread. Pretty amusing
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Nov 11, 16 5:37 PM
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America will be great again, alright. For the 1%, suckers.


This Hedge Fund Billionaire Is The Biggest Winner In Donald Trump’s Victory
John Paulson, a Trump policy advisor, will finally get the payout he’s been looking for.
11/11/2016 03:13 pm ET

Money in Politics Reporter, The Huffington Post
Ryan Grim
Washington bureau chief for The Huffington Post

Donald Trump held a “fireside chat” with billionaire hedge fund investor ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 11, 16 5:43 PM
They're too stupid to see the big picture of how the fix was in if Trump got elected.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 11, 16 5:58 PM
Yes we are stupid, we should listen to you and June our two 27 east prophets of wisdom and knowledge

As I've been saying right along, he will never be president. Not that it took a Nostradamus to know that. Just sayin......
By June Bug (339), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 16
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 11, 16 6:22 PM
Never dreamed my fellow citizens wouldn't reject the ignorant, hateful ramblings of a disordered and admitted pig, and wouldn't realize he is nothing more than a con man who doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself and his rich friends. His vitriol has so poisoned the country that even small children are suffering the consequences requiring school officials to provide counselling services. And this is a tiny portion of the litany that should have disqualified him. To summarize, I gave you ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 11, 16 7:10 PM
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It is a sign of arrogance to lash out and call other people stupid when one is proven to be wrong.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Nov 11, 16 9:29 PM
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It will be ok June we remember how you feel.

Its been 8 long years of hell for us. suck it up, you will be fine.

This country needs a big correction.

"As stated for months now, Trump will never be president. Not only will he not win, but he will lose by historic proportions. Such is the panic in the Rethuglican party over such a thumping along with the effect on down-ballot elections "

By June Bug (339), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 16 10:15 PM
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 11, 16 11:34 PM
Hey They call me - Obviously June and others underestimated the number of Trump supporters in this country and the number of Democrats that would fail to turn out on Election Day, in part because the polls claimed a fairly certain win for Clinton.

You say you remember how s/he feels - given Obama's approval by the majority of Americans (about 56% of them), could you elaborate on how Obama's tenure has been 8 years of hell for you all? I think this kind of info could help us understand ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 11, 16 11:47 PM
Things are changing throughout the world as country's realize the cultural differences between the Muslim world and the West are to great, The refugees must go back and change there own contrys before they can coexsist with the West.

We all just want to live in peace and have our countrys identitys back

LE PEN SEES TRUMP PATH...
Nov 12, 16 11:56 AM appended by They call me
Things are changing throughout the world as country's realize the cultural differences between the Muslim world and the West are to great, The refugees must go back and change there own country's before they can coexist with the West. We all just want to live in peace and have our country's identity's back LE PEN SEES TRUMP PATH...
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 12, 16 11:56 AM
What exactly do you think our country's identity is? Let this remind you:

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 4:49 PM
Entrenched DC culture will not change. Power brokers are still the same. The same brick wall the Obama campaign ran headlong into still stands.

Denial of such is purely obtuse.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 12, 16 8:06 PM
I may yet be right. Donald Trump will never be able to endure what is required of an actual president (not that he shouldn't be disqualified by virtue of his business conflicts of interest alone). He will quit, or he will be impeached which is the actual wet-dream of the party. Then we'll have evil Pence replacing unfit Trump.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 12, 16 10:43 PM
can someone please report adkj edc.etc. to the police and child protective. readily admitted beatting her children. come on people this is important
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 11, 16 6:42 PM
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OK yeah... I wasn't following this conversation closely enough but I see this person's post that you're referring to and I am honestly concerned as I don't think it seems like sarcasm/satire:

"This is how my husband and I raise our children today and it works! Every so often they think they're special enough to step out of line...oh and when they do they receive the same lashings that my sisters and I received when we were kids...

just the other day my son and his friend were trying ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 11, 16 10:30 PM
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Xtiego, maybe you should just report adkjedc etc etc, not sure that your general request will be followed through.

You should call up cps and tell them that 'adjkstvkskesvket made statements in a comments thread satirizing a polarizing yet still believed position in a ridiculous, fact free, argument about Trump / Hillary / and the emotional states some individuals after an election. Adjkstvkskevke... mentioned beating their children and also being beaten when they were a child. I dont ...more
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 12, 16 8:02 AM
LE PEN SEES TRUMP PATH...
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 12, 16 11:50 AM
I hope someone does report u !! Your comments are very unsettling and I think you should seek the help of a therapist ....judging by some of your past comments as well, your clearly struggling in some way mentally an for the sake of your children , go talk to someone. It will help you to be a better parent. I got the belt too as a child lady!!!!! most of us did....but we have learned from the past , that physical abuse does no good....Especially with impressionable children!!!! You are doing them ...more
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Nov 12, 16 4:36 PM
No time for dancin' or lovey dovey
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 12, 16 9:43 PM
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By toes in the water (884), southampton on Nov 13, 16 8:26 AM
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By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 13, 16 9:51 AM
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Im distubered by ur comments...you seem to find this to be humorous . Child abuse is NOT funny lady.

I will pray for your children. Help is on the way for them
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Nov 13, 16 11:10 AM
New York State Child Protective Services list the indicators of child abuse.....

Other than the physical harm you are inflicting on your children by lashing them with a belt Adlkjd923 blah blah blah , you are,

OTHER than the OBVIOUS physical signs of abuse ,
ACCORDING TO CPS :

-Destructive, aggressive or disruptive behavior.

-Passive, withdrawn, or emotionless behavior, and

-Fear of going home or fear or parent( s)

THIS IS WHAT U ARE INFLICTING ...more
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Nov 13, 16 11:26 AM
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Let me ease your mind on this lovely Sunday afternoon.

1. I am a man, not a woman.
2. You missed the part about the post being satirical

By adkvkdiesldkrive (9), southampton on Nov 13, 16 12:14 PM
LOL!! Loving it!! I guess this is the "HOPE AND CHANGE" that Obummer and Corrupt Hillary were advertising!! Let's let TENACIOUS TRUMP create that "HOPE AND CHANGE" that never happened, and never was, with you sad sack liberals!! So sorry, sad libs, there is a new format!! SING IT!!! "I'm lovin it"
By Lets go mets (377), Southampton on Nov 11, 16 7:10 PM
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By bird (829), Sag Harbor on Nov 12, 16 3:01 AM
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By bird (829), Sag Harbor on Nov 12, 16 3:13 AM
June bugs tantrum is nothing more than positive confirmation we are on the right track again. Relish in it.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 12, 16 6:14 AM
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pw - as if Trump supporters are acting any less ethically reprehensible in the wake of his election? The hate has been intense. Let's all admit this election was not pleasant for anyone.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 9:51 AM
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Children needing counseling because Trump won the presidential election June? Really? If there is any truth to this statement it speaks volumes to both the insanity of their parents and the school administrators who provided such services. This is a good lesson in how to be a gracious winner as well as a gracious loser.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 12, 16 7:04 AM
I'm not sure what June was referring to, but there actually has been a dramatic increase in racist and anti-LGBTQ hate speech across the country since Tuesday, much of it directed at children during school hours. I don't know if you remember school, but children can be awfully insensitive.

If your child went to school and was confronted by a group of students yelling at him to go back to Mexico/Africa or angrily calling him racial slurs, wouldn't you be concerned? I sure as hell would ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 9:37 AM
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How obtuse not to realize how children are affected by things they hear for which they have no context? How obtuse not to realize they pick up on fear from others? When their immigrant parents, e.g., are subject to be snatched away from them which is a real possibility now that the authoritarians are in charge? That same fear can be passed from child to child, the one in legitimate fear even to one who is safe from such a fate, but feels fear in the air and, as I said, has no context for it, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 12, 16 12:21 PM
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There has been NO increase in anything but liberal rioting. The hate on the television is owned by the left.

You cannot auplort your statement in any way. No Mexican or gay person has experience anything different since Tuesday and you know it. How ridiculous.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 1:01 PM
Slime - Google it. Multiple journalists have done stories on this, with photographic evidence of hate speech that references Trump. Just because you say it's ridiculous doesn't mean it's not true.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 4:40 PM
CNN does not understand that the Cuban community as well as many Latino groups are quite conservative and they usually go for the Republican. I guess they think all Latinos are the same. Who are the racists here!?

Seems to me Its feminists and union people more than any other groups who cant deal with President Trump!

There are many hard working Latinos, conservative African Americans and intelligent gay men that are proud to be on the Trump train !
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 12, 16 8:27 PM
No. it's actually not true AND you in spite of there being so many news stories about it you refuse to post one. No, it's actually not true and that's that
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 8:32 PM
Thats complete BS SH , the truth is....

Children are innocent

White people are compassionate / Racists are bad

Blacks are good God loving people / Thugs are bad

Legal Latinos are hard working family people / Illegal Latinos broke the law

Woman are the best humanity has to offer / Feminists are a scourge on the planet

Islam is a religion of peace / radical Islamists vermin are murdering terrorists and too common by percentage of the group

Journalists ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 12, 16 8:51 PM
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Hey Slime. So I Googled it and am posting the first one that comes up, since you've only asked for one example:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/day-1-in-trumps-america-highlights-racist-acts-violent-threats-w449787. Titled "'Day 1 in Trump's America' Highlights Racist Acts, Violent Threats"

There are plenty more too.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 13, 16 12:45 AM
27dan - what's BS? Not sure what you're referring to.

Also - you legit just posted a bunch of binary generalizations/stereotypes that do no one good. It's also not how the world works.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 13, 16 12:51 AM
How pathetic. The internet has screwed you up but good. You don't actually know of any. The same tag that is currently on trial for printing outrageously false and damaging stories is simply the first one that came up and you know it's true and are using it as proof. Honey, you are back on the reservation. Good girl, now roll over.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 13, 16 5:50 AM
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Slime - Plenty of other news outlets have posted stories about acts of racism or discrimination since the election, it's not just Rolling Stone - ABC, The Independent, USA Today, US News & World Report, CNN, NBC, People, Business Insider, NY Daily News. There are so many I can't even list them here.

Also, you're not a nice person. Please do not call me honey, and for the record I'm not from the reservation.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 13, 16 9:54 AM
LEGAL immigrants have nothing to fear and neither do illegals , unless they are criminals June . "Campaign of hate"? Please provide some quotes please not non PC comments but truly hateful thnx
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 12, 16 2:52 PM
bigfresh - last time I checked you can't tell the difference between someone who is documented and someone who isn't just by looking at him/her, and people don't seem to be caring about that difference when shouting at Latinos to leave the country.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 12, 16 4:53 PM
God bless my fellow leagal Latino Americans! They are part of my family and we are pround Americans. most of us support Trump and pray for his success. it's immensely liberating to leave the "Democrat plantation".

There is absolutely no reason why the Republican party cannot attract a majority of immigrants and people descended from immigrants. It's all just about winning the war of the narratives, and quite frankly the Republicans have the best one to offer: Individual liberty & prosperity ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 12, 16 8:18 PM
It's funny how both June Bug and Mr Z both love to use the word obtuse ( Things that make you go hmmm? )
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 12, 16 9:07 PM
I just heard on the news 1 out of 3 Hillary voters are just as big of sore losers as the other 2
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 12, 16 9:18 PM
To HHS:
Suddenly names are not important. Interesting. Here's the deal, names DO matter. As long as they are the correct names. A few examples. The "palestinians" are actually Jordanians, with a few Syrians mixed in as well. The "west bank" is Judea and Samaria which never "ceased" to exist. Incidentally "west bank" was a term coined by the Jordanians ( the real occupiers) in 1950 . Land was not stolen, unless the Grand Mufti ,the Hajj Mohammed Effendi el-Husseini was a liar....And why would ...more
Nov 12, 16 10:10 PM appended by Biba
Forgot to add, the Mandate....still valid. I know you YOU don't think it is , but it is ....
By Biba (566), East Hampton on Nov 12, 16 10:10 PM
to Biba:

Pure casuistry, from your claim that the Kingdom of Samaria and Judea never ended to your assertion that modern day Jewish theft of Muslim property is justified if the legitimate owners are referred to by a name other than "Palestinian". Moreover, the expulsion of Arabs from their ancestral homes is not excused by the fact that those Arabs were living on the "little bit" of additional land that the Jews wanted. Theft is theft.

Your rationalizations that Jews actually ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 13, 16 7:24 AM
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Dear 27 Dan
Journalists work hard to uncover the truth

"New Polling Shows Zeldin Still In Lead But Throne-Holst Closing Recognition Gap" --The Press, 2 days before the election

Zeldin was widening his lead. The Dems fed the Press the article. The Press did not ask the other side for a comment of rebuttal.

The NY Times publicly acknowledged today it made a conscious decision to color its reporting about the eelction because the editorial board concluded Trump ...more
By fire11 (276), east hampton on Nov 12, 16 11:19 PM
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I would no longer consider the NY Times honest journalists, and have not for a long time now. Maybe somone from the Press would like to ans. the the first one of your charges for themselves here for us to understand ?
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 13, 16 9:56 AM
Only Libs would want to secede from the union while simultaneously demanding a bigger federal government to micromanage their lives.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 13, 16 6:16 AM
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This is truly doomsday for these simpletons, and I LOVE IT!

We've won. They can whine all they want, but the power is ours. We are the ones who will dictate America's future. It's a glorious thing.

Let's all sit back and enjoy their tears. This is a long time coming.

Pitiful little Snowflakes your tears of unfathomable sadness are OH SO SWEET, YUM, YUM, YUM!!! They are sweeter than the nectar of the gods. Your river of tears is like the rain after a long hot drought.

...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 13, 16 10:04 AM
And now I am going to walk the dog and then not watch the NFL. You all have a nice weekend.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 13, 16 10:07 AM
Has anyone ever noticed how the "right wing" posters here act a lot like Trump? Insulting handicapped people, acting like bullies, and in general poorly behaved school children. Here's your "president elect". Good luck...


Mob ties. Swindling. Overpriced concrete. Manipulating bankruptcy laws. Fraud. Racketeering. Violating the Cuban embargo. Marital rape. Hundreds of frivolous lawsuits. Tenant intimidation. Tenant discrimination. Felix Sater. Roy Cohn. Joseph Weichselbaum. Bob Libutti. ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 13, 16 10:18 AM
‘Depressed’ Robert De Niro: Trump Election Makes Me ‘Feel Like I Did After 9/11’

You got the same feeling walking around Sag Harbor all week. It is so healing to witness.

Welcome to our world,Bob.

We've felt the same thing the last two election cycles; now it's YOUR turn!

Look at it on the brite side, now your 2004 bumper stickers on your Volvo's will be in vogue again. " descent is patriotic"
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 13, 16 10:17 AM
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I've got a curiosity question.

If "government doesn't create jobs" (we've heard that a lot here over the years), why is Trump expected to create jobs?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 13, 16 10:30 AM
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And can someone tell us what fills the gap for those put out of work by robots, drones, driverless vehicles?
Or how the revival of "trickle down", with its tax cuts and (now further) deregulation which created the 1%, is somehow now going to "make America great again"?
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 13, 16 11:49 AM
I'm also curious as to whether the lot here will support impeachment if Trump loses the fraud and racketeering suit regarding the unaccredited "Trump University". "Law and Order" you know...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 13, 16 1:21 PM
no
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 14, 16 6:10 PM
Good morning Mr. Z

Have a wonderful Sunday afternoon
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 13, 16 10:35 AM
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Hey joe and everyone else. I want to second this sentiment and wish everyone a wonderful Sunday afternoon. We may disagree on things here sometimes but we should remember we're all real people, and we're all part of the same community.

Happy Sunday all.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 13, 16 10:59 AM
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Well said !!

And another Happy Sunday to all :)
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Nov 13, 16 11:11 AM
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Warm sun, a leaf blower, and an evening football game.

Pierogi anyone?

By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 13, 16 1:23 PM
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And the Grammy for stupid comment of the decade goes to ^^^^^^

Every mill hunky who busted their a** is spinning in their grave thanks to you...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 13, 16 8:27 PM
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Pierogi & Kishka are Polish.

Could you be any more ignorant, or are you going for the record?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 14, 16 7:56 PM
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Pierogi's....my favorite Polish food!

Id say he's going for the record Z !!
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Nov 15, 16 7:50 AM
Still waiting on some "hate filled" quotes from President Elect Trump June. The better the 1% do, the better our local economy does.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 13, 16 1:51 PM
"The gravy train is about to have its wheels blown off and its engine completely ripped from its bearings"

Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway tells 'Fox News Sunday' host Chris Wallace that the Trump administration is going to change the way Washington operates, and under his leadership the "gravy train" of lobbyists and corruption will come to an end.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 13, 16 2:35 PM
Seems to me a certain East Hampton Harold, is not going to like that...
Nov 13, 16 2:39 PM appended by joe hampton
Watching Kristina vanden Heuvel eat shat on the " This week" round table with hosted by East Hampton's own... and soon to be resident of Canada George Stephanopoulos. was just such a WONDERFUL moment than warmed me to the core like a cup of hot coco. Thank you ABC for making my day!
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 13, 16 2:39 PM
Is that why his transition team is full of lobbyists?

Just sayin...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 13, 16 8:24 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By fire11 (276), east hampton on Nov 13, 16 6:28 PM

‹›
Trump Says He Supports Slashing Social Security From A ‘Moral Standpoint’
By Andrew Bradford



Social Security has been called the third rail of American politics: Touch it and you die. And if that is indeed the case, then Donald Trump might want to start picking out a nice casket.

Bloomberg is reporting that when the GOP nominee met with Paul Ryan on May 12, he told the House Speaker that he does indeed favor cutting Social Security, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 13, 16 7:26 PM
If that's the case, I'll take the lump sum of what I've paid in already.
Nov 13, 16 8:31 PM appended by Mr. Z
Interesting read: "A******s: A Theory of Donald Trump" by Aaron James
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 13, 16 8:31 PM
Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is a New York writer focusing on radical Islam.
This wasn’t an election. It was a revolution.
It’s midnight in America. The day before fifty million Americans got up and stood in front of the great iron wheel that had been grinding them down. They stood there even though the media told them it was useless. They took their stand even while all the chattering classes laughed and taunted them.
They were fathers ...more
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 14, 16 10:20 AM
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I think the facts bare out that it was more of a referendum of the cocky and overt over reach of the last 8 years
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 14, 16 11:13 AM
Careful there, TCM
...you'll make Phil create another new account
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 14, 16 12:19 PM
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Now, contrary to previous objection, permission's been granted for any and all to post full articles. Even those without pictures.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 14, 16 12:27 PM
"Bare"? Another somebody who should put a dictionary on their Christmas wish list. Jaysus, people. No wonder there's rampant susceptibility to scam artists in America.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 14, 16 12:41 PM
Oh definitely. It's all a con. That could be the ONLY excuse for people not sharing your beliefs. Because, if they were all thinking clearly and not susceptible to con men, they would all think like you do. Your inability to learn anything from this experience points to you making all the same mistakes again in 4 years. Good news.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 14, 16 2:02 PM
Its not really an acceptable way to use the word so it makes no difference how it was misspelled
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 14, 16 6:17 PM
MORE EVIDENCE OF THE CON.......

Who Benefits From Donald Trump's Tax Plan


November 13, 20168:18 AM ET

Donald Trump has proposed a very detailed tax plan — but his statements on the campaign trail don't always match what his proposal would really do.


FACT CHECK: Donald Trump's First 100 Days Action Plan

Analysis: Trump Tax Plan Would Cost Trillions, Boost Incomes For The Rich
For instance, at a rally in Scranton, Pa., Trump promised ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 14, 16 12:38 PM
oh the irony. there is no such thing as a fact checker. now that we've passed it, you'll just have to wait and see what's in it.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 14, 16 1:58 PM
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So a law professor and tax policy fellow has no expertise?
The fact is that Trump's plan will harm many households, single-parent ones the most, the segment of the population that is under the most stress to begin with. Make no mistake, Trump's in it for himself and his rich friends. Not a penny in estate tax for Uday and Qusay.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 14, 16 3:03 PM
Estate tax is just wrong in the first place that money was taxed already
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 14, 16 6:19 PM
The Founders would disagree Erin. Thomas Jefferson would vehemently disagree with you.

"A power to dispose of estates for ever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fulness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural. There is no point more difficult to account for than the right we conceive men to have to dispose of their goods after death."

~ Adam Smith
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 14, 16 7:16 PM
Haven't you heard? Trump has paid no income tax for years, and is supposedly going to be exempt for something like 18 years. And the cherry on top, the losses he claimed were on borrowed money, not his own.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 14, 16 8:08 PM
Careful June, your class envy is showing! Why should here have EVER been an estate tax? The government has already confiscated their percentage of the funds that make up the estate, taking a second bite of the apple is just wrong. President Trump has a nice ring to it.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 15, 16 8:59 AM
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Here's why, Einstein:

KEEP IT
It's Fair, and We Need the Revenue
By MICHAEL J. GRAETZ
Updated Sept. 20, 2010 12:01 a.m. ET
Is it fair for Paris Hilton to inherit her great-grandfather Conrad's fortune without paying any tax on it? Or Yankee owner George Steinbrenner's 13 grandchildren? This is exactly what happens when there is no estate or inheritance tax on the bequests of the very rich.

JOURNAL REPORTS

Read the complete Wealth Adviser report .

READ ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 15, 16 9:01 PM
Very Cool,

Trump to ‘Free NASA’ and Set Sights on Further Space Exploration

President Trump is set to focus NASA once again on space exploration

“Over the last 8 years, the Obama-Clinton administration has undermined our space program tremendously. That will change,” proclaimed Trump. “So many good things come out of it, including great jobs. That will change very quickly under a Trump administration and it’ll change before it’s ...more
Nov 14, 16 6:27 PM appended by 27dan
Muslim outreach will no longer be the prime directive at NASA..."It is very sad to see what BarackObama has done with NASA. He has gutted the program and made us dependent on the Russians." DT
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 14, 16 6:27 PM
Know what's not "good stuff"?

The GOP wanting a $300 million dollar cut to Earth Sciences. If the pot is going to call the kettle black...
Nov 14, 16 7:28 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. Try not to lie like your president elect. It doesn't become you.> "President Obama sought $18.5 billion for NASA in his FY 2016 budget request, and the US House proposed a budget with a similar top-level amount. The Senate budget for NASA totaled $18.3 billion. The big difference was in allocation; generally, the president asked for substantially more funding for earth science and for commercial crews to ensure that Boeing or SpaceX would be ready to fly astronauts to the International Space Station by the end of 2017. Congress cut funding for both of those ventures. For example, while the president sought $1.95 billion for earth science, both the House and Senate shaved about $500 million off that number."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 14, 16 7:28 PM
Here's your "pants on fire" moment for today:

Republicans outraged over NASA earth science programs… that Reagan began
Republicans trying to dry up NASA's earth science funding may not realize its origins.

Eric Berger - 10/29/2015, 11:49 AM


Perhaps the biggest budget battle this spring in NASA policy concerned earth science, and after slumbering this summer, that fight could soon return to prominence thanks to the new Congressional budget deal.

Whereas ...more
Nov 14, 16 7:36 PM appended by Mr. Z
Point of note: "Since the spring, Congress has come under considerable pressure from NASA and the spaceflight community to fully fund commercial crew. For the last five years, Congress has underfunded the commercial crew program, which is paying Boeing and SpaceX to develop space taxis, by more than $1 billion. Because of this, the onset of those flights has been delayed from 2015 to 2017, and NASA has had to continue to pay Russia about $80 million per seat for roundtrip flights for US astronauts to and from the station."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 14, 16 7:36 PM
And the orange hair is on fire moment:

"A White House spokesman last Tuesday said Obama wants NASA to engage with the world's best scientists and that to meet that challenge, NASA must "partner with countries around the world like Russia and Japan, as well as collaboration with Israel and with many Muslim-majority countries."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 14, 16 7:47 PM
Perfect now we can have Sharia law in space. Maybe they can throw some gays of the space station
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 14, 16 9:06 PM
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Republicans outraged? Could you be any further detached from reality? It's the alt-left burning their communities while life goes on
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 15, 16 4:37 AM
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Perhaps we could have a President elect who isn't a serial liar and likes to blame GOP failure on everyone else.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 15, 16 4:40 AM
Trump Rally’ Continues as Dow Jones Hits Record High / U.S. stocks opened higher on Monday, with the Dow Jones Industrial average hitting a record high, as Donald Trump’s unexpected victory in the U.S. presidential election continued to lift the market,” Reuters reported on Monday morning. The Dow opened at 18,914.78.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 14, 16 6:31 PM
To HHS
No casuistry involved on my part but thanks, I think I'm quite clever as well. But as much as you employ casuistry facts are facts. Believe it or not, facts don't change just because of anti Semitism. For example, you may not like it, but it's a fact that Judea and Samaria still exist. No theft or expulsion occurred. And if the Arab Jordanians had not planned to attack Israel for the second time, maybe they would still be the occupiers ( in fact they were the only occupiers) of Judea ...more
By Biba (566), East Hampton on Nov 14, 16 8:04 PM
Anti-Semitism Charges Against Bannon ‘Absolutely Outrageous
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 14, 16 9:14 PM
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November 12, 2016
MEET THE NEOCONS, 9/11 CRIMINALS AND GOLDMAN BANKERS ON TEAM TRUMP

James Corbett


The voting machines have decided who will be the next puppet figurehead of the Pax Americana deep state for the next four years. The circus is over and the peanut shells are being swept out of the stands. So what do we have to show for all of it?

Well, I have some good news, some bad news, and some not-so-good news for you. Let’s start with the bad ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 14, 16 9:27 PM
Yawn
Nov 15, 16 11:47 PM appended by joe hampton
All is peaceful under the supermoon...Defcon nuclear threat REDUCED to safest level following Donald Trump victory / AMERICA’S Defcon warning level has been reduced to its safest threat level possible following Donald Trump’s shock presidential election win....By JOEY MILLAR PUBLISHED: 05:35, Tue, Nov 15, 2016 ... The Defcon Warning System, a private organization which monitors world events and estimates the nuclear threat against America, is now at Level 5 - its lowest possible state. It was at a 3 for the last 2 years before the election
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 14, 16 11:47 PM
Local Traffic Reporter on Fox 23 Gives Clinton Supporters Directions To Canada Maybe you should check it out June

This Oklahoma traffic reporter gives viewers the quickest and most direct route to Canada.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 15, 16 8:50 AM
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June bug can't explain in her own words what she is afraid of. she doesn't even know herself
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 15, 16 4:35 AM
Men ?
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 15, 16 7:41 AM
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approaching 7 days in a row of uncontrollable laughter and iner tranquillity.
Nov 15, 16 7:56 AM appended by They call me
spelled inner (iner) decided to leave it that to drive June nuts !
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 15, 16 7:56 AM
to Biba:

The gravitas of your comments about Israel is measured by your belief that the kingdom of Samaria and Judea never ceased to exist and by your allegation that the universal international condemnation of Israeli occupation of the West Bank (in violation of international law and the Geneva Convention) is due to the fact that every country (which includes the United States) and every humanitarian organization devoted to peace and justice which has so condemned it are anti-Semites.

Your ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 15, 16 9:37 AM
Please High Hat you are drawn in ( like a rat to cheese ) to comment at the slightest mention of Israel.

I think we can all see your biased prejudice against Israel stops just short of being holocaust nostalgia, your pro fanatical Palestine posture over the years leaves one with little choice to see you as anti Semitic
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 15, 16 10:53 AM
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Hillary Clinton is a lady many despise and many love. But just what does anyone know about her background and how it relates to the United States? Her background has some really radical people in it, and one particular individual is none other than Saul Alinsky. Now, many have to wonder just who is this Saul Alinsky? Now we do have to give a brief background on him, since it is his ideology that Hillary Clinton grew up loving. The first ...more
By Ramblerman (18), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 16 11:16 AM
POLL: 70% voters do not believe media honest and truthful...
Nov 15, 16 11:54 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Eight in 10 voters — 78 percent — say media coverage during the 2016 presidential election was biased, with 59 percent saying the press favored Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, according to a post-election Media Research Center poll. Roughly one-third, 32 percent, of Clinton voters believe the press was “pro-Clinton.” Ninety-seven percent said they did now allow any of the bias from the media impact their vote. Sixty-nine percent of voters say the media is not honest and truthful. Media Research Center President Brent Bozell says the poll shows the press is in “panic mode” after Trump’s victory.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 15, 16 11:54 AM

So, can we assume that you believe (like Donald J. Trump and the other world oligarchs) that only the Haves are entitled to power and control in democracy? Can we assume you reject the right of the disenfranchised to organize in a democracy? Is that your reason for this post loaded with innuendo amounting to propaganda and a laughable attempt to demonize a public servant with a decades-long record of entirely center-right philosophy?
Were you even alive in the '70's? Do you have any ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 15, 16 12:24 PM
"Can we assume you reject the right of the disenfranchised to organize in a democracy?"

No you can not .

Organize all you want as long as you stop trying to redistribute the wealth through hidden taxes and follow the constitution and the law!

You sound like an accomplished Alinsky disciple ( Never waste a good crisis )
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 15, 16 1:05 PM
They used communist and Marxist to describe the same person. Academically, that's just stupid. Trotsky, Lenin, and Stalin had Marx rolling in his grave. Ask Tito what "free market socialism" is...

"Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle. If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second."

~ Josip Broz Tito, correspondence to Stalin
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 15, 16 4:22 PM
Leftists have been programmed to cede their right to freedom and representative government to totalitarian dictatorship. Their psyches have been altered to make them subservient slaves to the state. They have ceded their basic human rights for a faux sense of security within their own little "safe space."
It does not seem to bother Mr. Z that Liberals practice beliefs and behaviors that are illegal, immoral, and harmful to them and others. They do this knowingly but they simply do not care that ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 16, 16 11:21 AM
Really?

This feels like an "Annie Hall" moment. Tito stood up to Stalin and communism like no other world leader, including Ike. Stalin didn't send people to kill Ike.

Tito was no dictator, and a his funeral was the second largest in modern history. Second only to Nelson Mandela.

Maybe instead of talking out of your a**, you should learn some real history.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 16, 16 9:33 PM
Simply stated, for some, ideology trumps faith. Or...ideology actually replaces faith. Socialism always starts out with alleged nobel intentions but ends in tyranny. Collectivism = Communism/Socialism = totalitarianism (as delineated by Sartre to Marx to Mao to Stalin right on up to Obama). By definition, collectivism degrades the status of the individual and places salvation as an exclusive phenomenon of collective humanity, with the individual having zero status. This is why the collective left ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 16, 16 10:02 PM
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WOW June, this post is your most delusional yet. "Decades long record of entirely center-right philosophy"? She is a big government, tax and spend liberal. You just lost whatever miniscule credibility you may have once had.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 17, 16 6:58 AM
You engage with socialism every day. From the roads you drive on to those who police them. Got a 401k with profit sharing?
Nov 17, 16 7:29 AM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, even capitalism started with the best of intentions. From Tulipmania right on through the Great Depression to the most recent crash in 2008 it fails spectacularly too. The one consistency you remarkably fail to identify is human greed. All systems no matter how well you believe they are designed fall prey to the same human frailty.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 7:29 AM
Crazy talk. “Socialism” means total state or collective ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

So when the government confiscates private taxpayers' earnings and uses it to hire private entities to build the roads, it's simply ridiculous to equate that to total state or collective ownership.

When a private entity shares the profits that is the OPPOSITE of socialism. It's over. You and your ilk have been spectacularly rejected.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 17, 16 7:41 AM
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You need to provide the source when you crib a post.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 17, 16 9:00 AM
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The sad reality is that Zs Socialist ideological ancestors (Mao, Stalin, Che, Hitler, Pol Pot, Castro, etc.) are responsible for the horrific murder of hundreds of millions of innocent working class men women and children... I'm not convinced that it's a question of not learning from past mistakes but more that Obama and his ilk are every bit as evil as their ancestors were; they have no respect for the individual or human life for that matter, ideology will always trump the individuals rights for ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 17, 16 10:04 AM
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Slime Alive: The National/Communist type of socialism you cite is very different from the Democratic Socialism which is foundational in the US, and nobody's equating it to TOTAL state or collective ownership. Our system is, however, comprised of partial collective ownership. Claiming that's bad because of non-factual comparisons to Hitler and Stalin is like saying all guns are bad because of the Columbine and Sandy Hook killers. Besides the obvious public schools, parks, libraries, highways, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 17, 16 11:08 AM
Every name you cite was a power mad communist dictator.

The fact that you cannot delineate the difference between socialism and communism proves your lack of education.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 11:08 AM
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public schools, parks, libraries, highways, ...more police and fire depts can easily be payed for through local governments and property tax. We do not need to involve the federal government ( with some exceptions "Interstate hwy colabaration, RR, ect. ) in such matters
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 17, 16 12:02 PM
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Traditionally that's how it has worked for the most part. Federal funding has provided monies for many local projects over the years. That includes beach nourishment.

Bringing Federal tax money home has always been a major election issue, and has been crowed about on these very boards.

In the most basic sense the people own things under socialism. Under communism, the government does. Keeping it simple, as it were...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 2:36 PM
Agree with Z here - that IS how it works for the most part - the federal government is not running or even paying for your local library and I don't think any Dem or lib would argue that it should be. Who exactly are you arguing with Undoc (and Joe, and pw)?
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 17, 16 9:49 PM
The topic is not federal vs. state/local governments. The topic is Democratic Socialism, so local or federal, still socialism.
Ever hear of the Library of Congress? Or the national parks or the Capital Police or FEMA or the Peace Corps or the National Weather Service, or the Military, or Homeland Security, or the IRS, etc. etc. Of course, we need to involve the federal government. And of course only certain things need to be/are local.
I assume by "RR", you mean Railroad. One that ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 17, 16 9:56 PM
joe would rather parrot Mark Levin. He borderline plagiarizes the guy.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 18, 16 4:27 AM
You parrot EVERYONE else!?
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 18, 16 5:36 AM
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By Ramblerman (18), Hampton Bays on Nov 15, 16 11:16 AM
I was reminded of Alinsky rule #11 -"If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive"- when I heard 0bama declare yesterday:

"I am very proud of the fact that we will, knock on wood, leave this administration without any scandal."

"knock on wood" indeed
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 15, 16 11:40 AM
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To HHS
It's not just MY belief , it's a fact that Judea and Samaria still exist. Again, the name "west bank" was coined by the Jordanians. And remember, the Jordanians are the only ones that can be considered the occupiers of Judea and Samaria. The UN Human Rights council is a joke. The General Assembly member states are made up of 194 countries with only 40% being considered democracies Recently Saudi Arabia, China, Russia and Cuba were voted on to the council. The sole purpose of the Muslim ...more
By Biba (566), East Hampton on Nov 15, 16 9:00 PM
to 27dan:

One of the reasons that the American public is generally unaware of Israel’s despicable treatment of the Palestinians is that Israel's propagandists are indefatigable liars. It falls to those of us who revere Liberal democratic principles (and truth) to refute their endlessly reiterated ‘s falsehoods as often as they reproduce them.To do so absolutely guarantees that we will be smeared as anti-Semites by unprincipled Jewish victimhood promoters who, ironically, employ ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 16, 16 4:50 AM
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Both sides can be unreasonable but it does seem Israel is backed into a little corner, threatened with extinction on a daily basis. Picture yourself on a peninsula were foreign invaders are knocking on the front door threatening your way of life and wanting to take over your way of life, oh feels kinda like the East End I suppose.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 16, 16 10:58 AM
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US elections

'Stay away': Top professor backtracks on call to co-operate with Donald Trump's team after meeting with them



The Independent

A leading professor of international politics has backtracked on his call for young Republicans disinclined to work with Donald Trump's administration to give the 45th President of the United States a chance.

After meeting with members of Mr Trump's transition team, Professor Eliot A Cohen from Johns Hopkins ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 16, 16 10:55 AM

"A leading professor of international politics" hahahaha. How funny.

Nobody has heard of that guy. You've lost. It's over.

We chose Donald Trump. We don't have buyer's remorse. Nothing you could EVER say would change anyone's mind.

You should ponder your purpose. This is not a dream.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 16, 16 12:59 PM
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President Trump
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 16, 16 5:15 PM
Perhaps you prefer someone more qualified?

Top GOP National Security Official Warns: Don’t Go Work for Trump
Fiscal Times
Rob Garver
6 hrs ago

A respected foreign policy expert who had urged young Republican professionals to consider answering the call when the incoming Donald Trump administration sought to fill key executive branch positions has done a dramatic about-face and is now waving them off. His message: as part of their service in a Trump administration ...more
Nov 16, 16 10:13 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. Slime is apparently your typical uneducated Trump voter. Last statistics put the numbers at better than 2/3 of the least educated in America...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 16, 16 10:13 PM
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slimealive? what an appropriate name for you!
By summertimegal (97), southampton on Nov 19, 16 9:51 AM
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AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! DOLLAR HITS 14-YEAR HIGH

REUTERS By Jamie McGeeverNovember 16, 2016

LONDON (Reuters) - The dollar hit a 14-year high against a basket of currencies on Wednesday as a post-U.S. election sell-off resumed across global bond markets, lifting Treasury yields and attracting investors to the U.S. currency.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 16, 16 11:05 AM
If you google ''How to tell a child that President Trump won'' you get 60 million hits.
I had no idea how bad the problem in Hiplandia really was.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 16, 16 5:38 PM
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"Best Of The Young Turks Election Day Meltdown 2016: From smug to utterly devastated"


Best you tube video everrrr
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 16, 16 5:52 PM
This from members of the party which still needs to live down Aaron Schock.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 16, 16 9:56 PM
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has backed away from its earlier accusations against Stephen K. Bannon, stating on its website: “We are not aware of any anti-Semitic statements from Bannon.”

There is no need to talk about Anti-Semitism when the Muslim Brotherhood is close advisor to Obama and Hilary . There is no deeper anti-Semitic organization than the Muslim Brotherhood.

Bannon and Trump Forcing these groups to come clean or lose all credibility!

MSM The ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 17, 16 10:18 AM
''How to tell a child that President Trump won'' LOLLL

Hey Ditch did you see the UT where the mother kicks the poor 8 year old out of the house for voting for Trump in the school election

you cant make this stuff up

ROTFLOL
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 16, 16 10:07 PM
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By adkvkdiesldkrive (9), southampton on Nov 16, 16 11:04 PM
Everyone knows to pick Maryann over Ginger
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 16, 16 11:09 PM
So he has your permission to grope your mother?
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Nov 17, 16 7:19 AM
What me make libs lose their minds : "Steve Bannon"
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 17, 16 4:56 AM
Witch-Hunt’: ‘There is not a shred of evidence’
Nationally syndicated radio talk show host Dennis Prager called accusations of antisemitism against Stephen K. Bannon “libel” on Wednesday.

Hillary and Obama not only empowered Iran, they supported the Muslim Brotherhood takeover in Egypt, Where is the outrage there?
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 17, 16 10:57 AM
She deleted and bleached 33,000 emails but that did not stop Jesse Jackson yesterday

Speaking at President Gerald Ford's alma mater, The Rev. Jesse Jackson called for President Obama to issue a blanket pardon to Hillary Clinton before he leaves office,

Disgraceful !
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 17, 16 10:13 AM
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MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN: Housing starts soar 25.5% to 9-year high...
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 17, 16 10:46 AM
I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States

President Trump
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 17, 16 10:51 AM
BEHOLD MORE EVIDENCE OF HOW YOU'VE BEEN CONNED,......Make no mistake---you have voted in an oligarchal coup d'etat.


POLITICO Caucus


PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITION

Bankers celebrate dawn of Trump era

A populist candidate who railed against shady financial interests on the trail is putting together an administration that looks like an investment banker's dream.
By BEN WHITE 11/17/16 05:06 AM EST Updated 11/17/16 10:07 AM EST
Steven Mnuchin is pictured. ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 17, 16 1:06 PM
"Griftopia" by Matt Taibbi
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 2:41 PM
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'We have a duty to treat Trump like the threat he is'

By Laura Clawson
Thursday Nov 17, 2016 · 11:42 AM EST



If you were looking for a Democrat to say no, it is too dangerous to try to work with Donald Trump, even on infrastructure—meet Rep. Ruben Gallego.

I have a duty to tell the truth about Donald Trump. We cannot treat him like any other politician, or even like any other Republican, because he is not. He represents something much more ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 17, 16 3:12 PM
the last paragraph in your C&P is all GOOD NEWS . Your anti capitalist class envy is showing , again
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 17, 16 3:48 PM
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M2 Jan 1 1996: 3.6 trillion dollars
M2 Nov 16 2016: 13.1 trillion dollars

Any [expletive deleted] questions?
Nov 17, 16 5:42 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, your tired old lacking in intellect envy retort is just as pathetic as the first time you typed it.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 5:42 PM
Comment is about your anti bank C&P
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 17, 16 3:50 PM
"The Divide" by Matt Taibbi


"A scathing portrait of an urgent new American crisis. Over the last two decades, America has been falling deeper and deeper into a statistical mystery: Poverty goes up. Crime goes down. The prison population doubles. Fraud by the rich wipes out 40 percent of the worlds wealth. The rich get massively richer. No one goes to jail. In search of a solution, journalist Matt Taibbi discovered the Divide, the seam in American life where our two most troubling trends ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 6:05 PM
In search of a solution, journalist Matt Taibbi should start with Black Lives Matter riots, Occupy Wall Street riots, Ferguson riots, Wisconsin riots, St. Louis riots, NY, Oakland, Portland, LA, and Seattle riots? Horrific atrocities committed by the illegal aliens and Jihadists you insist on importing and distributing throughout our republic? These Soros funded leftist atrocities caused billions of dollars in damage to public and private property. They resulted in multiple murders, rapes, and ...more
Nov 17, 16 6:56 PM appended by joe hampton
Do you not realize that Clinton lost by almost 70 electoral votes. 70 electoral votes is indeed MASSIVE; it's a profound and significant statement by the states and their people with regard to their preferences. The VAST majority of states spoke LOUDLY through their votes and rejected Hillary Clinton outright. You are either lying to yourself or you are in dire need of a remedial civics course.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 17, 16 6:56 PM
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Or maybe you could just read "The Divide".

Chapter 4 was especially revealing about Wall Street's unindicted criminality. The same people that the incoming administration wants to unleash to potentially burn down the economy again.

Trump did not win in a landslide. He won Pennsylvania and Michigan by razor thin margins. He lost the popular vote by nearly a million. By the way, why did he lose Manhattan in a landslide? Perhaps because NYC had at least three decades to get to ...more
Nov 17, 16 7:06 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, Wisconsin was also a razor thin margin.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 7:06 PM
And it bears mentioning that corruption is no stranger to Donald Trump.

You simply chose one form of it (corruption), versus another. How 'bout that Dillinger Coach Works?

Try "Making Trump" by David Cay Johnston...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 7:12 PM
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"...profound and significant statement by the states and their people with regard to their preferences."

Clinton: 62,109,875
Trump: 61,000,837
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 8:46 PM
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Let's see, hmm, "why did Trump lose Manhattan by a landslide"? He lost Manhattan because it is a bastion of liberalism , a festering sewer populated by elitist , self important fools and the permanent underclass of freestuffers. They elected DeBlasio for Christ sake!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 18, 16 6:33 AM
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You mean the 1% who write your check?

Oops...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 18, 16 11:43 PM
Matt Taibbi far left Bomb thrower, Laura Clawson - Daily KOS Who will Junezy quote next Paul Thugman or Keith Olbermann
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 17, 16 6:47 PM
"far left Bomb thrower"

Have you ever read one of his books?

Or do you just ignorantly pass judgement on hearsay?

Methinks the latter...
Nov 17, 16 6:53 PM appended by Mr. Z
Chapter 4: "The Greatest Bank Robbery You Never Heard Of"
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 6:53 PM
omg did you just say junezy, too funny
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 17, 16 6:58 PM
You would do well to learn the difference between a quote and a citation and a reprint of an article or blog or a portion thereof. There was no quote from Laura Clawson. What was posted was her reporting of statements by a Congressman.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 17, 16 10:12 PM
To HHS
So what you're saying is Israel protects all Israeli citizens ( Jews, Christians and Muslims) by treating terrorists, despicably.
Israeli Arabs own land, hold seats on the Knesset and in other Government posts. Both Men AND Women vote. They attend schools and universities. Arabs that are homosexual can live free in Israel. Arabic and Hebrew are official languages. Arabs attack Jews almost on a daily basis in Israel. Have you seem Mahmoud Abbas' home by any chance? Tell me again who ...more
By Biba (566), East Hampton on Nov 17, 16 8:51 PM
It seems joe missed this. But, if you've read Taibbi you'd know about it.

Immigration and Nationality Act Section 287(g)
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 17, 16 9:27 PM
Here you go Slime - almost 500 documented incidents of hate in the few days after Trump was elected: https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/11/15/update-more-400-incidents-hateful-harassment-and-intimidation-election. You want to say his election has not encouraged hateful incidents in this country? Those lies are on you.

In addition to being hateful, you and your alt-right comrades just make no sense.

Today I listened to Richard Spencer - one of the founders of the alt-right ...more
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 17, 16 10:33 PM
Silly me, I am not taking your word or some corrupt, non-objective fake informational website you posted.

But I do trust the reports about the guy who was killed for voting republican. I also SAW the video of the dudes beating the day lights out of the white Trump supporter.

Spare me. I will NEVER agree with you. You lie
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 18, 16 5:32 AM
Slime - The Southern Poverty Law Center is a well-respected 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization and has maintained it's accreditation since 1971 - through both Republican and Democratic administrations.

It is not a fake informational website. That's ridiculous.

Just because you don't like what I'm saying doesn't mean I'm lying.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 18, 16 9:17 AM
I'm hoping a meteor strikes Earth and kills us all between now and January 19th, 2017.
By Rich Morey (378), East Hampton on Nov 17, 16 11:33 PM
When 0bama leaves office, it WILL be the end of the world.

AS WE KNOW IT !
Nov 18, 16 7:57 AM appended by loading...
(and I feel fine) -R.E.M 1987
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 18, 16 7:57 AM
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What a negative attitude,

Hit The Beach Dude Surfs Up !
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 18, 16 9:42 AM
I jumped in without a wetsuit last weekend, and this one too.

Burns fat...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 19, 16 12:42 AM
People have spent too much time either gloating, if your Trump supporter or being angry if your a Clinton supporter. Wake up people, we have approx 200 mlllion eligible voters, approx 80 million people didn't vote for various reasons. Some were disgusted with both, some just assumed Hillary would win, some just don't care. Approx 120,000 million people voted, with the popular vote still in Hillary's favor. We have a split country with the people that actually voted, but you still need to tread lightly, ...more
By adczeta (78), Southampton on Nov 18, 16 1:27 AM
don't make it sound like your so Innocent young lady. you stoked plenty of flames around here with you blm stance, and now you want to talk about the bible. well ok fair enough, i agree with a lot of what you finally said above, but lets get one thing straight god would say all lives matter even the un born so if we can start there i will gladly love thy neighbor and start over with you.
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 18, 16 2:02 AM
First of all I haven't been on here in awhile, but i did get perspective from someone else that kept there mind right during this craziness. I also believe Black Lives Matter, the point of that label is that it has to be said. It didn't just pop out of thin air. It's common sense that All Lives "Should" Matter., but it's easy to deflect when it doesn't affect you and that's a privlege. My nephew is driving now, but he is extremely afraid the police because he used to stay in Hempstead. It's ...more
By adczeta (78), Southampton on Nov 18, 16 8:05 AM
Like i said more than happy to start fresh with you, just wish you would realize it is you that is pointing out the difference between people all the time. we are all Americans until you separate yourself as you do. my husband dose the same thing when he is pulled over it is common sense in that situation.so if it was never said before because of the way we meet you,

nice to meet you adc and welcome.
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 18, 16 8:20 AM
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Nice to me you Erin, it's Angela by the way :)
By adczeta (78), Southampton on Nov 18, 16 12:05 PM
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Wake up People see this list below from 1963 and see which items are already completed:

Communist Goals (1963)

Documention below


Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963



Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent ...more
By Ramblerman (18), Hampton Bays on Nov 18, 16 6:37 AM
FORD STAYS!

President Donald Trump said Ford Motor Co. will be keeping a Lincoln plant in the U.S. instead of moving it to Mexico.

“Just got a call from my friend Bill Ford, Chairman of Ford, who advised me that he will be keeping the Lincoln plant in Kentucky -- no Mexico,” Trump wrote in posting on Twitter.

MAKE AMERICAN GREAT AGAIN !
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 18, 16 8:25 AM
...what happens when the manufacturing plants that stay/return to the US become more and more automated / robotocized .... just because we bring back manufacturing doesn't mean we bring back traditional manufacturing jobs
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 18, 16 8:29 AM
what can i tell you its a start
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 18, 16 8:30 AM
lol !!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 18, 16 8:37 AM
Keep calm
and
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGIAN !
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 18, 16 10:40 AM
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Actually didn't Ford state months ago that they were staying in the U.S.?? Yes, back in March

http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/StreetTalk/Donald-Trump-Ford-Mexico-trade/2016/03/23/id/720481/
By adczeta (78), Southampton on Nov 18, 16 12:00 PM
Great start President Trump



By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 18, 16 9:39 AM
He hasn't done anything yet: http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/11/18/behind-fords-fake-deal-with-trump/#27b9f56e53ee
By johnj (1024), Westhampton on Nov 18, 16 12:10 PM
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What's Mike Pence hiding in his emails?
IndyStar 3:03 p.m. EST November 14, 2016



Mike Pence wants his communications limited from public access. Experts say this sets a "dangerous precedent."


Now that the presidential campaign and most of the furor over Hillary Clinton's email scandal are behind us, the Pence administration is going to court to argue for its own brand of email secrecy.

The administration is fighting to conceal the contents of an ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 18, 16 10:59 AM
Nov 17, 10:40 PM EST

JUSTICE THOMAS: HONOR SCALIA BY REINING IN GOVERNMENT
BY MARK SHERMAN
ASSOCIATED PRESS
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 18, 16 11:00 AM
WOW

Bleach bit much
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 18, 16 11:02 AM
"We were the least racist country in the world, until Obama"

Kanye West Stops Concert to Deliver 40-Minute Pro-Trump Rant
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 18, 16 11:57 AM
...he's got 2020 vision
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 18, 16 1:31 PM
ANYONE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THIS PENDING DISASTER IS, AT THE VERY LEAST, ASLEEP.

Trump FLIES Into Online Meltdown After Being HUMILIATED During Meeting With Foreign Leader
By Harper Cicely - November 18, 2016

Despite President-elect Donald Trump having absolutely no clue what he is doing, and the fact that his transition into being the next U.S. President is going horribly wrong, The Donald has spent the last 24 hours trying to defend himself on Twitter.

Australia, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 18, 16 3:44 PM
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"Sex, Drugs, and Rock n Roll"

~ Denis Leary
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 18, 16 11:47 PM
Unlikely apprentice: Obama coaches Trump to be world leader
By JOSH LEDERMAN
Nov. 18, 2016 1:51 PM EST
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 18, 16 11:50 PM
The truly terrifying thing about Trump is that his past history has revealed him as a delusional egomaniac who thinks that his poor performance as a businessman is a raging success (thanks to his ready access to the hundreds of millions of dollars and to the real estate connections of his father.) How will this perception affect his behavior as president? Will he assume that there is no such thing as an irrevocable decision since all his past mistakes have been "fixed"?

For the military, ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 19, 16 3:51 AM
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"Delusional maniac".

You got anything besides irrefutable evidence that your mind is controlled wholly by the federal media complex?

It is over. You lost. Your ideas have been rejected, your opinion has been rejected, your ideas about society have been rejected, what you thought about your fellow citizens has been proven wrong and at this rate - you show no signs of doing anything different in 2020
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 19, 16 8:35 AM
With all due respect even flow - Hillary won the popular vote so despite Trump being elected, HHS's ideas and opinions were actually validated by more fellow citizens than rejected.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 19, 16 8:50 AM
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Yes, the same man who said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it will behave as if no laws apply to him (or his ilk). Ten days in and the alarm bells are ringing loud and clear--the conflicts of interest so appallingly blatant, his spawn, racists, and radicals sans experience in positions of power, the attacks on the Fourth Estate, and fewer in positions to check and balance. And no prior or future tax returns as a source of accountability.
"Draining the swamp", only ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 19, 16 11:55 AM
Clinton: 62,109,875
Trump: 61,000,837
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 19, 16 8:38 PM
A pro American President is a welcome change from our APOLOGIST IN CHIEF! President Trump, sleep well HH.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 19, 16 7:20 AM
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By highhatsize (2727), East Quogue on May 27, 16 4:56 PM

to joe hampton:

Isn't it a wonderful day!

Your are manically delusional (as are your extreme Right-Wing colleagues on this forum), a characteristic of the true believer. In FACT, nothing will come of your inferential allegations because there are no FACTS behind them - - - just devotional yearning. Your prediction of Hillary's imminent demise is truly hilarious (while disturbingly indicative of the tortuous cognition ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 19, 16 7:25 AM
Ha Ha Ha look at the faces of these pathetic clowns at LTV... they went there to gloat and feel superior and now they must confront themselves ...silly old fools who worshipped a socialist, muslim-friendly president. Go home and take your Obama with you, folks --there's a new sheriff in town. And wave bye bye to your illegal gardeners, housekeepers, and servants. America has risen up and now it's time to cleanse ourselves from those who would lead us down the path of destruction. (That would be ...more
By fire11 (276), east hampton on Nov 19, 16 10:07 AM
to fire11:

Quote:

"America has risen up and now it's time to cleanse ourselves"
-----------------------------

The terrifying voice of racist bigotry speaks.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 19, 16 12:02 PM
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Article1, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution:
"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the US: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.
Think of all the possibilities of violation by Mr. Trump stemming from this clause.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 19, 16 1:00 PM
As stated for months now, Trump will never be president. Not only will he not win, but he will lose by historic proportions. Such is the panic in the Rethuglican party over such a thumping along with the effect on down-ballot elections that the oligarchs have gone through their binders and have come up with a guy to fund and wangle onto the debate stage. Funny how that works, isn't it, when they won't even allow viable third party candidates like Ralph Nader to debate?

By June Bug (339), ...more
Nov 19, 16 1:27 PM appended by joe hampton
Lovely Saturday afternoon...
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 19, 16 1:27 PM
What a Riot. Thats Hill - arious
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 19, 16 7:22 PM
Somebody was absent the day the rest of the kiddies learned good sportsmanship....
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 19, 16 7:40 PM
President Trump America's first independent president
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 19, 16 7:21 PM
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By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 19, 16 7:47 PM
Please. There are and have been negative vibes coming from all sides. We should all be able to express our opinions though. If June wants to speak, let him or her speak. If you want to argue with him or her, you are free to do so.
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 19, 16 8:05 PM
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Very sad that the right to speak on a public forum has to be defended in a democracy, but at least one poster--SH_Res-- on this thread understands we do not live in a totalitarian state. Unlike xtiego whose post I now see has been removed. As for posting full articles, there've been many, and by more than one poster, without a word of complaint. And where there's so much material in this age of information, it's good to be presented with material we wouldn't necessarily come across or seek out ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 20, 16 1:49 PM


DONALD TRUMP’S FIRST, ALARMING WEEK AS PRESIDENT-ELECT
By Ryan Lizza , NOVEMBER 16, 2016

It’s been one week since an unusually subdued Donald Trump gave his victory speech in Manhattan. “For those who have chosen not to support me in the past—of which there were a few people,” Trump said, eliciting laughter from the crowd of ecstatic supporters wearing red Make America Great Again hats, “I’m reaching out to you for your guidance and ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 19, 16 8:24 PM

STREISAND CELEBRATES HILLARY VICTORY
'HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN'
Wed Aug 03 2016 11:44:09 ET
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 20, 16 10:59 AM
You can at least tell your grandchildren that you tried, but alas, your little coup d'etat failed...but you tried. Who knows, maybe your progeny will be more successful Communist revolutionaries than you are; could happen, you never know. If all else fails, you could always move your whole clan to Cuba or Brazil and partake of the joys of Socialism first hand...do you like those little fried bananas?
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 20, 16 1:09 PM
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By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Nov 19, 16 8:47 PM
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Libs need to read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"

After screaming so often when there wasn't a true problem...once there was an authentic wolf in their midst, no one listened to his screams". He and his flock did not fare well best I can recall. The townspeople eventually ignored the little schmuck.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 20, 16 4:18 AM
“I don’t settle cases. You know what happens? When you start settling lawsuits, everybody sues you. I don’t get sued because I don’t settle cases. I win in court.”

~ Donald J. Trump
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 20, 16 9:02 AM
@27east, it seems like many of the posters here are just bots, automatically responding to one another with copy/paste content.

By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 20, 16 11:19 AM
Do you not realize that Clinton lost by almost 70 electoral votes. 70 electoral votes is indeed MASSIVE; it's a profound and significant statement by the states and their people with regard to their preferences. The VAST majority of states spoke LOUDLY through their votes and rejected Hillary Clinton outright. You are either lying to yourself or you are in dire need of a remedial civics course.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 20, 16 1:07 PM
I am fully aware that Clinton lost the election and am also aware of the electoral vote count for she and Trump.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Nov 20, 16 2:27 PM
CORRECTION: Almost 60, not almost 70 electoral votes. Hillary leads popular vote by 1.4M, and still counting. Hardly rejection, my good man.

RESULTS AS OF FRIDAY:
Clinton, Trump Latest 2016 Election Results: Popular Vote Final Tally Depends On Michigan, California, Washington, Utah.


Donald Trump won nearly 60 more Electoral College votes than Hillary Clinton, but the Democratic presidential nominee’s popular vote continues to advance over her opponent’s ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 20, 16 3:17 PM
to joe hampton:

"You can at least tell your grandchildren that you tried, but alas, your little coup d'etat failed...but you tried. Who knows, maybe your progeny will be more successful Communist revolutionaries than you are; could happen, you never know. If all else fails, you could always move your whole clan to Cuba or Brazil and partake of the joys of Socialism first hand...do you like those little fried bananas?
By joe hampton (2538), Hamptons on Nov 20, 16 1:09 PM

Do ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 20, 16 2:29 PM
to pw herman:

Could any opinion more perfectly epitomize your ignorance?

The electoral college wasn't established for any principled reason. There were two, and only two, motivations for its creation.

The first was a political horse-trade to entice less-populous states to join the union by granting them anti-democratic, exceptional influence in the selection of the president.

The second was and elitist fear of allowing direct popular election, the idea being ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 20, 16 4:16 PM
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Our federal system of government and our Constitution define the powers of the Federal Government vis-a-vis the powers of the States. Those Federal powers are expanded by whatever a majority of Justices of the Supreme Court may from time to time determine.

The Electoral College system, like the two Senators from each state regardless of population, simply acknowledge the power and authority of each individual state within the union as opposed to the power and authority of the central federal ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Nov 20, 16 5:33 PM
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"A jackass can kick a barn down, but it takes a carpenter to build one."

~ Sam Rayburn
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 20, 16 5:56 PM
You have got to get over this popular vote nonsense HHS. You are smarter than this. So are you Z. Stop crying over the election. Trump won with a campaign based on electoral votes. To say he wouldn't have won if he had based his campaign on the popular vote is speculative at best. He didn't bother campaigning in states where he knew the electoral votes were going to HC. That would have been different had the election been based on popular votes, but the outcome would have been the same.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Nov 20, 16 7:30 PM
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Facts are facts.

The right wing children gloating like it was some message by the American people is dimwitted at best. The sad part really is when really smart people can show you things like this:


How to Hack an Election in 7 Minutes

With Russia already meddling in 2016, a ragtag group of obsessive tech experts is warning that stealing the ultimate prize—victory on Nov. 8—would be child’s play.

By Ben Wofford
August 05, 2016

When ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 20, 16 11:42 PM
Point of note:

We read the code, and found really, really bad problems. Actually, let me change that. We found unacceptable problems.” ~ Dan Wallach

Felten took to blogging, and started a tradition: Each election, he snapped a photo standing alone with unguarded voting machines days before the election. In another study, the Sequoia AVC Edge was infected with malware that allowed it to do nothing but play Pac-Man; the students pulled off the feat without breaking the machines ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 21, 16 12:00 AM
It's simply amazing that there are people out there like HHS and Z who think they can override centuries of state and federal constitutional sanctity, law, and precedent because they have hurt feelings. Hillary Clinton lost in a MASSIVE landslide, this is a simple fact, no level of leftist temper tantrums will change that. The left has the collective psyche of a petulant child who throws himself to the floor in hysterics if his every perceived want is not instantly gratified. How leftists survive ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 21, 16 12:09 AM
You wouldn't know the difference between a kernel and a corn cob.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 21, 16 12:16 AM
and Z? What is your point?
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Nov 22, 16 6:28 PM
The point is how frighteningly easy it is to hack a voting machine. The GOP has already proven itself guilty of doing so ala Clint Curtis.

Let's just say I have a healthy amount of doubt about the Diebold machines in Pennsylvania. However, I could be wrong...
Nov 23, 16 10:52 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. The Sequoia AVC Edge used in states such as Florida and New Jersey was child's play for Cylance to take control of. Like taking candy from a baby.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 23, 16 10:52 PM
From what I see, Trump is going to break many campaign promises. The biggest of which that got him votes in PA, WV, and KY is bringing back coal mining jobs.

With "free market" forces the way they are, those jobs are not coming back. Coal is dirty and more expensive than natural gas as well as renewables. Simply put, I can think of at least three states which will end up with buyer's remorse...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 20, 16 4:59 PM
Something to share:

Mike Pence’s Hateful Laws Almost Kept Me From My Dying Wife

Amy Sandler
Nov. 18, 2016

Note: Amy Sandler was a plaintiff in Baskin v. Bogan, which challenged Indiana’s denial of marriage rights to same-sex couples while Vice President-elect Mike Pence was governor


'I want everyone to know the type of man he is'

As a resident of Indiana for five years, I got to know Governor Mike Pence better than the average Indiana ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 20, 16 5:06 PM

Something else to share

ONLY 60 MORE DAYS OF BARACK AND THIS NIGHTMARE IS FINALLY OVER !
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 20, 16 6:46 PM
“I don’t settle cases. You know what happens? When you start settling lawsuits, everybody sues you. I don’t get sued because I don’t settle cases. I win in court.”

~ Donald J. Trump
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 21, 16 6:31 AM
CAIR, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood who control Keith Ellison who controls Howard Dean will soon be the voice of the Democrat Party.

Cool
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 20, 16 7:30 PM
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to joe hampton, Undocumented Democrat & Sturgis:

Quotes:

"Hillary Clinton lost in a MASSIVE landslide, this is a simple fact" - joe hampton

"CAIR, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood who control Keith Ellison who controls Howard Dean will soon be the voice of the Democrat Party." - Undocumented Democrat
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Alert Dr. Phil. Three more reality-challenged individuals for his compassionate concern.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 21, 16 5:03 AM
to NTiger:

I'm not suggesting that any effort be expended to change the electoral college system (or to change the apportionment of federal senators) since it would be a complete waste of time. The lesser-populous states, which are overwhelming in number compared to the few states with massive populations, would never agree to the change. What I am saying is that neither provision by the Founding Fathers was principled but were, rather, strictly political ones that fly in the face of ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 21, 16 5:30 AM
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To Highhatsize,

Sure.
By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Nov 21, 16 6:10 AM
To Highhatsize,

Try and relax good man, go for a walk and enjoy the freash air a little today.

By highhatsize (2873), East Quogue on Oct 9, 16 1:07 PM

Isn't a lovely day today.
Sorry if I have mislead you. I hope that The Donald will win the Republican nomination because he will certainly lose the presidential election, enabling the Democratic Party to secure the presidency (and, perhaps, a senatorial majority with a turkey like The Donald at the head of the ticket.) ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 21, 16 8:43 AM
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Very amusing way to start the day Joe.

lol, thanks for that blast from the past.

have a good day everyone.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 21, 16 8:49 AM
Hagamos a América grandiosa otra vez
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 21, 16 12:15 PM
Migrants Burn Down Hall: ‘There’s Not Enough Nutella and Gummibears!’

Migrants burned a conference hall down, injuring 26 people and causing €10 million in damage, during Ramadan because they thought there wasn’t enough chocolate and candy.
Two men have been charged for setting fire to the hall, which was being used as an asylum centre, in an attack that lit a hundred-metre high pillar of smoke that could be seen from across Düsseldorf.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 21, 16 9:05 AM
To Undocumented Democrat

What you just don't understand is that this type of thing will NEVER happen in America ,because we will be accepting the moderates not the extremists. Oh wait a minute......

Oh well then I guess two bad apples don't spoil the whole bunch . That will make everything better .

Gotta go now, it's time to feed my pet unicorn.

By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Nov 21, 16 3:26 PM
how terrible,such a shame
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 21, 16 8:04 PM
TRUMP SURGE!!!

STOCKS SMASH RECORD HIGHS
PEAK TOGETHER FIRST TIME SINCE '99
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 21, 16 4:30 PM
I'll drink to that ! Cheers !!
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 21, 16 4:34 PM
On Monday’s broadcast of the Fox Business Network’s “Mornings with Maria, Dem Rep Ryan: “I’m pulling the fire alarm, because the house is burning down, and we better get our act together or we’re going to cease being a national party.”

Ryan said, “The average American, the average working-class American, flipped their middle finger to the Democratic establishment. They think that everybody’s more concerned with the donor class than they ...more
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 21, 16 4:46 PM
"I listened as they called our President a Muslim.
I listened as they called him and his family a pack of monkeys.
I listened as they said he wasn't born here.
I watched as they blocked every single path to progress that they could.
I saw the pictures of him as Hitler.
I watched them shut down the government and hurt the entire nation twice.
I watched them turn their backs on every opportunity to open worthwhile dialog.
I watched them say that they would not even listen ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 21, 16 6:28 PM
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I still say he is Muslim at heart, Seems to prefer it to Christianity thats for sure.

I did not say he was born in Kenya his grandmother and brother did.

He got every single dollar and stimulus he asked for and YOU KNOW IT !

Good Night Junezy
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 21, 16 7:53 PM
Uh huh, just like Bush was blamed for everything, until he wasn't. Big yawn.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Nov 22, 16 6:31 PM



Trump faces avalanche of conflict-of-interest troubles
11/21/16 09:45 AM
By Steve Benen
It was clear during the presidential campaign that Donald Trump’s international business dealings were likely to create the mother of all conflict-of-interest controversies should the Republican win the White House. And now that the election is over, and Trump is the president-elect, those warnings may have understated matters.

The fact that we knew these conflicts ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 21, 16 7:34 PM
mr. hat said "the first remains in force and will never change because the lesser states will never relinquish their unfair privilege (which contravenes our country's founding principle of liberal democratic republicanism.)

There is nothing admirable in it."

just listen to you condescending arogance... Its why you LOST! in the first place!

how smug just like barack obama was.
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 21, 16 8:02 PM
Trump Foundation apparently admits to violating ban on ‘self-dealing,’ new filing to IRS shows

The Washington Post
David A. Fahrenthold
8 hrs ago
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 22, 16 6:01 PM
The losers are the American workers who fell for the con. Can't say you weren't warned, and this is only the beginning.


Millions of Americans who voted for Donald Trump are expected to lose overtime pay rights soon after he is sworn in as president.

Tom Bonier, CEO of the polling firm Targetsmart, pointed out on Monday that “almost 20,000,000 Trump voters would lose time and a half overtime” under a Republican plan to reverse regulations put in place by President ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 21, 16 8:50 PM
CNN FALLS TO 3RD IN CABLE NEWS RACE
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 22, 16 8:00 PM
to Erin 27 E:

Quote:

"mr. hat said "the first remains in force and will never change because the lesser states will never relinquish their unfair privilege (which contravenes our country's founding principle of liberal democratic republicanism.)

There is nothing admirable in it."

just listen to you condescending arogance... Its why you LOST! in the first place!"
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Sweet Jesus, this isn't an ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Nov 22, 16 4:03 AM
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By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 22, 16 4:31 AM
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I think that has been shown time and time again
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 22, 16 6:53 AM
to Hat Head...

... And question your fundamental philosophical beliefs you should!

Just what would you use as a bench mark for your suggestion

"Would it, perhaps, be more appropriate to restrict voting privileges to those citizens who have demonstrated the intellectual ability to make rational (as opposed to visceral) choices"

a high school diploma , property ownership, a green card ? Just curious ?
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 22, 16 7:03 AM
Poll: Trump Gaining Popularity
"Trump’s favorability among voters has reached new highs"

President-elect Donald Trump's popularity has risen after only two weeks since the election, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll of registered voters.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 22, 16 7:53 PM
Polls said Clinton would win too.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 22, 16 7:59 PM
Hmmmmmm...

Trump Foundation apparently admits to violating ban on ‘self-dealing,’ new filing to IRS shows

The Washington Post
David A. Fahrenthold
8 hrs ago
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 22, 16 7:59 PM
Donald Trump is a moron. If climate change, or global warming is a hoax; the so is the Permian Triassic extinction. You [expletive deleted] idiots and your fossil fuels will set the planet on fire. There is NO feasible "Planet B" regarding our current level of technology. If you think this species can survive 500 ppm CO2, I wish not only you the best of luck, but the next species to inherit the planet. IF it recovers instead of becoming the next Venus...

Trump to scrap Nasa climate ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 23, 16 9:46 PM
Trump appoints matriarch of largest LOBBYING organization for charter schools to be education secretary.

You can't make this stuff up...

By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 23, 16 10:01 PM
Soaring Consumer Confidence: Americans Happy About Trump, the consumer expectations index of the survey rose by 8.4 points from October to 85.2 — a one-month gain last exceeded in the December 2011 — a testament to households' optimistic view on the outlook for the U.S. economy and their own pocketbooks.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 23, 16 10:04 PM
It won't do any good if the sky is on fire.

Keep drilling a*******. The next "Great Dying" will be coming to more than a theater near you...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 23, 16 10:34 PM
Public Service Announcement:

Nvidia has made your GPU the newest spying device in your PC
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 23, 16 11:01 PM
Thankfully Linux exists
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 24, 16 11:28 AM
The telemetry is built into Unix drivers as well.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 24, 16 12:58 PM
There are ways around the assault on privacy... I am sure you know what they are. But I agree with you 100% this should stop!
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 24, 16 3:10 PM
Yeah. Run AMD graphics for starters.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 1:28 AM


No, Trump, We Can’t Just Get Along
Charles M. Blow
NOV. 23, 2016
The New York Times

Donald Trump schlepped across town on Tuesday to meet with the publisher of The New York Times and some editors, columnists and reporters at the paper.

As The Times reported, Trump actually seemed to soften some of his positions:

He seemed to indicate that he wouldn’t seek to prosecute Hillary Clinton. But he should never have said that he was going to ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 24, 16 9:56 AM
Have a nice Thanksgiving dinner Junezy
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 24, 16 10:24 AM
In Thanksgiving pause, Trump calls for national healing...
Americans hold politics during feast...

Lets all take President Trumps advice today, Everyone please enjoy family and friends and think about what is important.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 24, 16 11:21 AM
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The last person on earth I would take advice from.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 24, 16 12:08 PM
The last person on earth I would take advice from.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 24, 16 12:08 PM
Well June, we all know how you feel about Trump and Clinton. What I want to know is how do you feel about the Muslim Brotherhood.
And Happy Thanksgiving everyone !
By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Nov 24, 16 12:10 PM
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Well now, that's quite a leap there, fella'. Kinda' reveals you've absorbed the scare tactics we've been subjected to by the war profiteers. Try to buck up--this is the home of the BRAVE.

As for all the expressed holiday benevolence, apparently the disrespect for anyone who disagrees hasn't been put aside. Just for the record, now that the vote counting is almost complete, we actually know that voters preferred Hillary Clinton by millions. Like 4 times as many as preferred Gore over ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 24, 16 1:28 PM
Try and stay away from the Brandy today lady,

Happy Turkey Day Alll !
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Nov 24, 16 3:13 PM
She lost, get over it.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Nov 24, 16 7:59 PM
Mr. 306: Trump Wins Michigan, First Republican to Do So Since 1988

Extends Electoral College Landslide

OFFICIAL: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704...

Says 'making progress' to keep CARRIER in USA...
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 25, 16 12:19 AM
So there you have it folks.
Wow June you have absolutely no idea what the Muslim Brotherhood is and more importantly what it stands for.
If you did, you would be aware of the fact that the Muslim Brotherhood is not only, not about war in the conventional sense , it's an even greater threat than ISIS. Home of the FREE and the brave, you left free out . Wait, maybe you DO know what The Muslim Brotherhood is about after all.....

I had to laugh at the blatant projection when you wrote, ...more
By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Nov 24, 16 6:17 PM
i'm fine with the muslim brotherhood
By adkvkdiesldkrive (9), southampton on Nov 24, 16 9:30 PM
And that's what's great about America. As long as you are aware of what it is. And on the off chance you're being sarcastic, I'm happy for you that you can find humor in suffering. Quite often ,humor can sustain us in difficult times.......
By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Nov 25, 16 12:49 AM
SEASONS BEATINGS:
Parking Lot Dispute Leaves 1 Dead at WALMART...
1 Shot Dead Outside NJ Mall...
Shoppers fight over towels...
Riot over toilet paper...
VIDEO: THE ZOMBIES OF '16...
Nov 25, 16 8:32 AM appended by 27dan
THIS IS BARACKS AMERICA!
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 25, 16 8:32 AM
27dan you have got to be kidding me. This is America, period. Black Friday nonsense has nothing to do with who is president. And if you disagree with that -- do you really think Trump, with his materialistic lifestyle, is going to reduce the terrifying nature of America's consumer culture?
By SH_Res (342), Southampton on Nov 25, 16 8:49 AM
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Law and Order: Trump to Meet with Sheriff David Clarke as He Plans Administration, Great Pick!
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 25, 16 12:44 PM
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Black Friday 2016 weekend comes roaring out of the gates with 3 shot and 2 dead before midnight. Place your bets on tramplings and human stampedes for this year's the over/under accordingly
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 1:44 AM
And right out of the gate the rot begins....

There is a lot more to the Trump Argentina story
Foreign press reports—available only in Spanish—reveal a tangled web of family, business, and power.


Donald Trump and Mauricio Macri’s methods of communication raise ethical red flags. CREDIT: AP Photo/Adam Peck

Like other international leaders, who were “blindly dialing into Trump Tower” following Donald Trump’s upset victory, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 25, 16 10:35 AM
"Language-based learning disability". And we know he doesn't read. This is what can be termed an actual emergency.

Linguists: There Is Something Very Strange About Donald Trump
By Karen Shiebler on October 24, 2016

Ever since Donald Trump announced his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination, it has been clear that his communication skills are unusual. Experts from a variety of professions have been trying to define what the issues are with Trump’s speech ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 25, 16 10:53 AM
KT McFarland is your new Deputy National Security Advisor who will serve under the hothead General Flynn. Should make you sleep really well at night......Husband Alan is on the Southampton Village Planning Board.

The Real Story of Kathleen McFarland Is Much Better Than The New Scandal

by Roger Friedman - December 5, 2012 8:06 am
5 16155

Kathleen “KT” McFarland’s real story is much more interesting than the one Bob Woodward dug up about her, General ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 25, 16 2:30 PM
KT is an excellent choice. She is very knowledgeable in foreign policy and military affairs, she would be a great addition.McFarland, was a former spokeswoman in the Pentagon during the Reagan era and IMO is a rock solid choice!

Go TRUMP!
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 25, 16 2:46 PM
So happened I no sooner posted her appointment when I ran into her husband--he of millions upon millions-- in Stop and Shop. Or I should say he ran into my basket and apologized. He was with a 20-something woman whom I assume was the daughter (the shoplifter?) b/c they were holding hands. Shades of The CONald and Ivanka?
So, let's see now. You elected a billionaire who is stocking his administration with other billionaires who you think is going to fix the system that made them billionaires. ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 25, 16 6:17 PM
and what's wrong with billionaires June? Some choose to live in our wonderful area and provide many good paying jobs to local residents, the mega rich make our economy here hum.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 26, 16 8:26 AM
Its gonna be fine... Stay calm your hair is on fire again... Breath
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 25, 16 7:11 PM
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There was only one fund-raiser for Trump in Southampton. Who hosted it, you ask? Why, Wilbur Ross of course.

12 Coal Miners Died on This Man’s Watch in 2006. Now Trump Wants to Make Him Commerce Secretary.
So much for Trump’s supposed commitment to coalfield workers.
By Zoë Carpenter NOVEMBER 15, 2016

Wilbur Ross Jr., Chairman and CEO of WL Ross & Co. and Donald Trump’s potential pick for Commerce Secretary. (AP Photo / Mark Lennihan, file)
...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 25, 16 7:27 PM
Ross for Commerce Secretary?

Looks like the old "Pay to Play" system -- so despised by Trump supporters -- is back in play?

You can't make this stuff up!

Can't wait 'til Putin invades and annexes another peninsula etc., with Trump's itchy finger on the launch button, and Putin doesn't reply to a Trump tweet about how "outrageously bad" the invasion is.

Pay to Play is back in play.

Big time.

By PBR (4956), Southampton on Nov 25, 16 8:19 PM
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How's Trump going to protest when he's up to his neck in business with Russian oligarchs, Putin's buddies, and in debt to Russian banks? And today it's confirmed that the Russian hacking was intended to get him elected. His former campaign manager, Paul Manafort (house in Bridgehampton) had to resign because of his Russian ties.

But yes, Pay-to-Play is very much in play. And there are problems with almost every appointment.

How is not everyone's hair on fire? Pay to Play, ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 25, 16 9:37 PM
....Breathe
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 26, 16 12:11 AM
Ironically. After the first line you actually did make that up. In fact everything after "you can't make this up" was all made up. Think before you type you hysterical lib. It's over. You lost
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 26, 16 6:28 AM
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How's about presenting a rebuttal defending your opinion instead of exhibiting hatred, name-calling, and poor sportsmanship. Is that the behavior you extend to the losing team when you played baseball or football or whatever? Is that what your coaches encouraged? Is that what you learned in Sunday school? My hunch is the opposite, and that sadly this darker side of our natures has been emboldened by Mr. Trump which is just one of the regrettable effects of this accidental horror.
As for ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 26, 16 11:59 AM
And by the way, even flow, may I remind you of all the things you enjoy which were brought about by progressives in America? A 40-hour work week, child labor laws, paid sick leave, the right of arbitration, Social Security, health care for the indigent, voting rights laws, civil rights laws, Title 9, etc. etc. Notice that so much of this was about creating an equal playing field for workers and/or the oppressed or the poor. Therefore, can we conclude that your knee-jerk disgust directed at ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 26, 16 2:43 PM
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Castro is dead.

Happy Thanksgiving, and early Merry Christmas...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 1:26 AM
Trump didn't just win the next 8 years. With SCOTUS picks, he's won the next 80.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 26, 16 8:22 AM
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Amazon reviewers skewer Trump's $149 Christmas ornament:

Yuge ornament

Despite ordering a more reasonable ornament, this one arrived. It. Is. Yuge. It's absolutely yuge. It's the biggest ornament. Yuge.
I hung it on my tree, but it is so yuge that it has totally unbalanced my whole tree. No matter where I hang it, the tree leans waaaaaay over to the far right.

Not what I wanted

Every autumn my family chooses a new ornament to go onto our holiday ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 1:37 AM
LMAO!


Great bargain! Downside

Came with an entire crate of white hood ornaments. Great bargain! Downside: My tree is now on fire.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 10:23 AM
I was able to get mine for 3 easy payments of $49

Simply a must have for every double-wide this holiday season. I would have given it 5 stars, but mine came in orange instead of red. I was able to get mine for 3 easy payments of $49.95 (I'm simply going to refuse to make the last payment.)

Note: for some reason, the cat seems to avoid this like the plague...not sure what's going on with pussy willow....
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 10:51 AM
Cry baby of an ornament!

Didn't order this, got it anyways. I hung it on the bottom of the tree. It began complaining that it deserves to be on the top, and that this whole Christmas thing is rigged..
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 10:54 AM
Give it a chance.

My friends bought me this God awful ornament and are all telling me "you have to give it a chance"... but when I bought them an ornament of a black Santa 8 years ago, they didn't give it a chance. They would say things like, "I'm gonna do all I can to make this a one Christmas ornament."
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 11:11 AM
TicTacs Bonus included

It threatened my Elf on the Shelf because he flew back to the North Pole and told Santa all the horrid things it did. I do not recommend purchasing, especially if your Elf on the Shelf is female. The ornament arrives with a box of TicTacs.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 11:27 AM
Trump log.

Dreadful ornament. After hearing a cacophony from my tree, I found this dangling topper mocking my entire Land of Misfit Toys display. When I tried relocating it, it called my baby Jesus an anchor baby, and told mother Mary she was really packing on the pounds. It appears to be happy now that I have repositioned it nearer to my Christmas matrioshka dolls, but now I can't get it to stop singing White.Christmas.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 26, 16 11:28 AM
You may want to consider switching to decaf.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 26, 16 11:29 AM
Will Obama go to Cuba to His hero Fidel Castro's funeral?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 26, 16 8:32 AM
You know it!
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 26, 16 10:49 AM
Of course. You'll notice that he is most comfortable around world leaders with long track records of horrendous civil rights violations.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 26, 16 11:31 AM
Nothing like the comfort between Trump and Pooty-Poot, of course.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 26, 16 2:08 PM
...Fidel keeled over just to take the spotlight away from Trump.

Rot In Purgatory, Fidel Castro
Nov 26, 16 5:40 PM appended by loading...
"Socialism or DEATH !" and he meant it
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 26, 16 5:40 PM

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GOP Strategist Says Republicans Need To Face Facts: Trump Is Corrupt (VIDEO)
By Andrew Bradford on November 24, 2016
Categories: Elections



Some Republicans are getting very nervous about Donald Trump’s refusal to place his extensive business holdings in a blind trust, and they’re warning that refusal–along with questions about the Trump Foundation–could have catastrophic consequences for the President-elect and the GOP.

Wednesday ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 26, 16 8:19 PM

SundayReview | OP-ED COLUMNIST

The Pretend Populism of Donald Trump

Frank Bruni NOV. 26, 2016

For a politician who won the White House by railing against the elites and demonizing the establishment, Donald Trump presented an odd argument for why Americans should believe, as he does, that his adviser Steve Bannon is no racist, anti-Semitic ally of the alt-right.

“Steve went to Harvard,” Trump reminded about two dozen of us at The Times last ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 26, 16 9:33 PM
Awesome the way June regurgitates left wing talking points , no need for facts , just spew them out.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 27, 16 8:53 AM
His solidly oligarch cabinet is factual. His ties to the mob are factual. The fact he settled a fraud and racketeering case is factual.

All this country did was trade one form of corruption for another.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 27, 16 10:29 AM
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By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 27, 16 11:17 AM
Get over it June Bug: you lost!
By Taz (725), East Quogue on Nov 27, 16 9:51 AM
In time you'll see the country lost.
Aren't you already feeling betrayed with his about-faces and broken promises? Of course you are.
No concern that he's not attending the daily security briefings that has been priority for every incoming president, but apparently of no interest to him?
This flim-flam man has broken law after law including secretly violating the Cuban embargo. The same flim-flamming know-nothing with positions on both sides that change by the hour knows one thing---the ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 27, 16 11:32 AM
Not even in office yet and the leftists are losing what's left of their minds, deranged , pitiful losers. Get over it and deal, get back to work and go about your lives, things are looking up and will only get better from here. Love the way the markets have reacted, how about you June?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 27, 16 12:11 PM
What? No concern for the rule of law, our ability to hold onto democracy, our moral standing in the world, equality, decency?

And here's just one (underreported) example of what should concern all regardless of which side of the aisle we occupy: Trump owes millions to Deutsche Bank which is being fined for $14B by the Justice Dept. which Trump will soon oversee. Just one little sugar plum to track.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 27, 16 1:02 PM
You people have not thought of the rule of law in 7 1/2 years...

Why the sudden change of heart ?
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 27, 16 2:28 PM
I have bad news. It looks like there will be a recount in some states. You are about to lose a second time in a single campaign. I'm guessing you were looking to make history in a different way.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 28, 16 4:30 AM
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Goodbye to Baracks world

Obama's failed dialogue with the Muslim world will be replaced with Trumps action when it comes to radical Islam. Obama’s legacy will be purged. In many cases all it will take is the stroke of Mr Trump’s pen.

The erasure will go far deeper than undoing just domestic laws, or foreign deals. President Trump will repeal the disaster known as Obamacare, Correct the trade imbalance, blow up the one sided US-Iran nuclear deal and set things right ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 28, 16 12:22 AM

CAMPUS TERRORISM...
STUDENT PLOWS CAR; STABS VICTIMS...
IDENTIFIED: ABDUL ARTAN, SOMALI REFUGEE...
REPORT: Social Posts Mentioned Anwar Awlawki...
Flashback: ISIS Calls for Random Knife Attacks...
At least 9 hospitalized...
Carried Out With a Car and a Knife... Stopped With a Gun !
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 28, 16 6:45 PM
Scary once a month, something MUST be done to stop this madness. These people have no regard for western civilization.
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on Nov 28, 16 9:05 PM
Somthing was done on Nov 8th Trump won 306 Electoral votes
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 28, 16 10:07 PM
Hussein, that is all!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 28, 16 8:05 PM
You mean Arabic for Smith?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 28, 16 8:19 PM
Except I can not remember a radicalized terrorist named Smith, so it must have to do with the Arabic part of your equation
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 28, 16 10:01 PM
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Texas Elector to Resign Instead of Voting for Trump

Art Sisneros says he won’t be ‘faithless,’ but he also can’t in good conscience signal his approval of the president-elect.

By Gabrielle Levy | Political Reporter Nov. 28, 2016, at 1:04 p.m.



"I do not see how Donald Trump is biblically qualified to serve in the office of the presidency," he said in his Saturday post. "Of the hundreds of angry messages that I have received, not one has ...more
Nov 28, 16 8:32 PM appended by Mr. Z
#HamiltonElectors
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 28, 16 8:32 PM
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“The process of the Electoral College affords a moral certainty, that the office of the President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.”

-Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper #68
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 28, 16 8:35 PM
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RECOUNT TO NOWHERE
VILLAIN SOROS
PENNSYLVANIA DEADLINE MISSED
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 28, 16 8:59 PM
US consumer confidence jumps to highest level in 9 years after Trump elected President
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 29, 16 11:38 AM
To Mr.Z
Are you suggesting, that because Hussein is a common name in the Muslim world, a person named Hussein could not possibly be a terrorist ? I'm just a little confused.
By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Nov 29, 16 12:43 PM
Are you simply insinuating some dung heap, steaming pile of **** to prove how you read whatever you want to hear into whatever other people have to say?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Nov 30, 16 6:26 PM

Here's Donald Trump's tweet where he says if he were President he would screw everyone but himself

By Walter Einenkel
Monday Nov 28, 2016 · 12:53 PM EST

Donald Trump has not even been given the electoral votes that would officially make him our next President yet but he is already going about using his new position to pressure foreign leaders to enrich his personal business interests. Considering that this is a man who has a voting base impervious to “facts” ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 29, 16 2:15 PM
There's 12-Step meetings for your form of denial, J.Bug!



By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Nov 29, 16 2:31 PM
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Trump voters hoping for anti-establishment, anti-insider politics are in for a rude awakening. It’s party time for Corporate America.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 29, 16 6:42 PM
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Winning! President-Elect Trump Negotiates Deal to Keep Carrier Corp in U.S.

Saves Close to 1,000 Jobs in Indiana

Donald Trump isn’t even president yet and he’s already winning for American workers

Donald Trump accomplished more in 3 weeks before being sworn in than Obama in 8 years.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 30, 16 1:47 AM
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And KT McFarland from Southampton as well. Between them and Zeldin, we're in good hands.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Nov 30, 16 8:32 AM
"GOOD HANDS"? Breaks the law, loads resume with lies, daughter arrested in Southampton for shoplifting, hates gays and Muslims. Favors war with Iran and torture. Sure looks like a woman with a sterling character.

New Trump Adviser: Homophobe, Paranoid, Electoral Felon?



11/27/16 7:00am
New Trump Adviser: Homophobe, Paranoid, Electoral Felon?
Credit: Politico

I see that yesterday President-elect Trump appointed another member of his foreign policy ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 16 5:52 PM
You'll have to head over to politico for my response.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Dec 1, 16 8:24 AM

In a nod to the working man, Team Trump offers donors an inauguration package for only $1,000,000

By Jen Hayden
Tuesday Nov 29, 2016 · 4:46 PM EST


So far Donald Trump’s proposed Cabinet members have a combined net worth of $35 billion. Yes, BILLION. In yet another sign that he really gets the working class voter, Donald Trump and his team are now offering inauguration packages for the low, low price of $1,000,000:

Donald Trump’s inaugural ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 29, 16 6:04 PM
It getting pathetic, Li'l Ms. J.Bug -- you spend your whole keyboard time Googling the Internet looking for anti-Trump stories and opinion pieces to post here -- and to what purpose?

The Election is over and whether Donald Trump will be a good or bad President won't be known for at least six months. Nothing you re-post here is going to change anything or anyone's mind.

Like him or hate him, he won the election so I hope you're not putting all your hopes and dreams in the Jill Stein ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Nov 30, 16 2:07 AM
Of course nothing I post will change minds. Anyone familiar with cults knows any attempts along those lines are futile. At some point, however, transformations can and do occur.
But meantime let's just set a parameter re: your projections and false assertions. You will note I have never posted support of either Hillary Clinton or (mere mention of) Jill Stein, so can we please dispense with any of your imagined opinions of my feelings about them. My problem is with an incoming administration ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 16 11:33 AM
Deal with it Junezy!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 29, 16 7:38 PM
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People that can be convinced a billionaire outsourcer who spent his life ripping workers off cares about them can be convinced of anything.
A fate similar to the cultists of Jonestown who drank the Kool-Aid a distinct possibility.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 29, 16 7:46 PM
...a Kool-Aid addict is a sad thing to witness

(first sign is denial)
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 30, 16 6:09 AM
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By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 29, 16 11:45 PM
We have to keep JuneBug actively posting. She is our barometer. As the nation continues to heal and as more people find out they are not losing their jobs after all she will get more upset.

When JuneBug starts to sound happy, that's when we have problems.

By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Nov 30, 16 6:16 AM


1 hr ago
Media spreads propaganda about Trump’s business empire
Trump tweets, and the media dutifully amplifies his message. The public is being badly misled.


CREDIT: AP Photo/Evan Vucci
In a series of tweets this morning, Trump announced that he would be giving up operational control of his sprawling multi-national business empire.

From both a legal and ethical perspective, this is a meaningless move. The concern is not Trump’s “operation” ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 16 10:44 AM


. When will white working-class Trump voters see the scam?
Paul Waldman

Special To The Washington Post

While we're still analyzing the election results and debating the importance of different factors to the final outcome, everyone agrees that white working-class voters played a key part in Donald Trump's victory, in some cases by switching their votes and in some cases by turning out when they had been non-voters before.



And now that he's about ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 16 10:52 AM
Majority of Germans Are Dissatisfied with the EU, The survey, undertaken in October, showed that the migrant crisis is what Germans believe is there greatest challenge.

I say Its not just the Germans - we ALL feel that way. Its BS

Ohio State Terrorist ’Should Not Have Been in Our Country’

Trump’s message reiterates his previous comments about blocking refugees from Muslim countries from entering the U.S., in an effort to stop homegrown “lone wolf” ...more
Nov 30, 16 11:24 AM appended by They call me
The people who tell us that there is no need to vet, or profile, these 'refugees' are the same ones with armed guards, and live behind gates, and walls. Trump is correct to want to profile people from these countries.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 30, 16 11:24 AM
lol, Isis tells us in their own words they are coming to kill us, and in fact are already here waiting for a signal, and yet the fools among us, say, "Naaah, it has nothing to do with Islam. Nothing." These Radical Muslims that murder Americans have been the darlings of Obama, Clinton, and MSM.

Finally, An American POTUS!
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 30, 16 11:30 AM
Islam in general seems to not be very compatible with western culture. Sharia Law should be kept out at ALL costs!

Radical Islam is a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER.

Mosques need to be monitored, they have proved to be encampments of hate and used for recruitment too many times now.
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Nov 30, 16 11:36 AM
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Vote with your wallet!

Kellogg Co. announced on Tuesday its decision to pull ads from conservative media giant Breitbart.com because its 45,000,000 monthly conservative readers are not “aligned with our values as a company.” In response, # DumpKelloggs petition has called for a boycott of the ubiquitous food manufacturer.
Some of Kellogg’s brands:

Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes®
Kellogg’s® Nutri-Grain®
Pop-Tarts®
Rice ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 30, 16 3:51 PM
Looks there was some kind of secret merger between Kellogg's, ESPN and Target. They will all continue to bleed profits by blatantly attacking half of the country.

Good for them!!!

Local food pantry is getting 2 bags of free food delivered this afternoon and the dogs are currently finishing off a box of Strawberry Mini Wheats.

Thanks for the tip off
By They call me (2826), southampton on Nov 30, 16 4:01 PM
Joe, thanks for the shopping list.
By bird (829), Sag Harbor on Nov 30, 16 6:13 PM
You go enjoy your SF 49s game with your Frosted Flakes...
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Nov 30, 16 9:00 PM
no more kashi for me till we get an apology

thanks guys, good looking out
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 30, 16 9:07 PM

Elaine Chao, Ruined Department of Labor, Picked to Ensure Safety of Nation’s Planes, Trains, and Automobiles

Under her leadership, the Department of Labor routinely ignored complaints about wage theft and workplace safety.

By Spencer WoodmanTODAY 3:41 PM

Yesterday, conservatives and business leaders lauded the news that Donald Trump had chosen Elaine Chao to run the Department of Transportation, a position expected to play a key role in pushing through the ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 16 6:01 PM



U.S. Uncut

POLITICSA Trump staffer was just convicted on ten charges of felony election fraudC. Robert Gibson | November 30, 2016
Facebook
Twitter
A staffer for Donald Trump’s campaign in Michigan — which Trump narrowly won by just over 10,000 votes — will be doing jail time for election fraud.

Susan Demas, publisher of Inside Michigan Politics, broke the news on Twitter Wednesday afternoon:

Brandon Hall of the Michigan Trump ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 16 6:53 PM
pw herman said: TCM : I think you sunk Z's battleship !!!


i think it was a cumulative effort that short circuited mr z as well as driving the mad hatter away

no more trouble makers for a while , with a few exeptions
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Nov 30, 16 9:05 PM
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By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 1, 16 1:34 AM
\
Frightened by Donald Trump? You don’t know the half of it
The Guardian
George Monbiot

Many of his staffers are from an opaque corporate misinformation network.
Wednesday 30 November 2016 01.00 EST

Yes, Donald Trump’s politics are incoherent. But those who surround him know just what they want, and his lack of clarity enhances their power. To understand what is coming, we need to understand who they are. I know all too well, because I have spent the ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 30, 16 9:23 PM
... Hey Junezy You look foolish,

Your Fired.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 1, 16 12:34 AM
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Outing corruption and lies is foolish?

Looks like Reagan's "criminal gang" 2.0 is coming to Washington...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 1, 16 2:00 AM
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Yup, the swamp is indeed getting dirtier than ever.

You Trumpateer cheerleaders might want to take a break and catch your breath. You have been suckered in by a Trojan Horse con man. Surprising you are not embarrassed yet. Maybe after you take a few deep breaths, and a close look at the team ACTUALLY being formed (vs. the promises made), you will wake up?

The cabinet being assembled is "Pay to Play" and "Big Money" deja vu all over again, but you don't seem to get it.

Yet ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 16 12:30 PM
I'm not sure a more ironic post has ever been offered to the internet by a Hillary fan. Congrats.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Dec 2, 16 4:23 AM
HMMMM explain the market jump since Trump's election Please.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 1, 16 8:01 AM
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Ok, ready? All it means is that the Federal Reserve is pumping out new money available to be borrowed at low interest rates by capitalists who will take over failing companies and fire workers.
Benefits the rich, investors, and screws everyone else. a/k/a "trickle down".
Even the infrastructure "boomlet" will benefit the rich. Government money will be put up for construction, then the projects will be sold to private owners who will charge tolls on what would otherwise be toll-free.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 16 12:26 PM
What a pitiful display of anti capitalism class envy Junezy! Bernie and Mr Z should be proud!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 1, 16 4:12 PM
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What's pitiful is your inability to understand the answer to the question you posed, to understand what crony capitalism is, or why it's bad. Or is it that you can't get past your pride or your machismo to be schooled by the likes of someone whose name you think is "June". Name ain't June, and thankfully well off, so your amusing charge of class envy can be directed elsewhere.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 16 10:43 PM
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Clinton Concedes: Donald Trump Becomes 45th U.S. President ...
Donald Trump poised to become 45th US President...
Nov 9, 2016 - BREAKING: Donald Trump is elected president of the United States of America... with a total of over 300,

Donald Trump is now poised to become the 45th US President !!!
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 2, 16 7:34 AM
HMMM, "borrowed at low interest rates by CAPITALISTS ...." "Benefits the RICH, investors , and screws everyone else." "boomlet" will benefit the RICH". "then the projects will be sold to PRIVATE owners" Seems as if you suffer from that all too common leftist malady of bashing the successful , with a healthy side of limousine liberalism. I will pray for your recovery.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 3, 16 7:19 AM
M2 January 1st 2000: 4.6 trillion dollars

M2 as of today: 13.2 trillion dollars

BF has less than a rudimentary understanding of modern fiat currency economics, or so it would seem...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 3, 16 7:38 AM
a $700,000 yearly investment in carrier for 10 year lead to a $16,000,000 RE-investment in their plant along with the preservation of jobs that will generate over $2,500,000 in tax revenue per year....

figures you wouldn't like it. it a win for everyone.
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Dec 3, 16 8:43 AM
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By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 16 1:22 PM
Carrier jobs still moving to Mexico: 1300

Carrier jobs staying in Indiana: 850

Cost to Indiana taxpayers: $7 million

That's called giving away the store. There's your Art of the Deal, baby.
Should start a whole rash of same. Simple. Threaten to move.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 16 1:22 PM
Not sure where to start, but the top sounds like a good spot.

I dare you call the spouses and children of the fathers and mothers that have kept their job and tell them they aren't worth it and you think they should actually lose their jobs.

There is NO cost to Indiana taxpayers and you cannot find any. When someone keeps more of their own money that they earned, it doesn't COST anyone anything. It wasn't their money.

You need to understand that there is no honor in ...more
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Dec 1, 16 1:33 PM
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You need to understand you don't know what you're talking about.
This is nothing more than a stunt, another lie, a perfect example of crony capitalism instead of good trade policy. These workers you refer to are being used as props in a scam. Carrier, owned by hugely profitable defense contractor, United Technologies, received $5.1M in stimulus after the '08 crash to "expand". Apparently their idea of expansion was to move to Mexico. Now for a $50,000/yr. job they are being paid at least ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 16 4:31 PM
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Here was what Press Secretary Josh Earnest had to say about Trump’s deal with Carrier:

“I know that the president-elect has indicated that he deserves credit … for that announcement, and I guess what I would observe is that if he is successful in doing that 804 more times, then he will meet the record of manufacturing jobs that were created in the United States while President Obama was in office,” Earnest said.

“There were 805,000 manufacturing ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 1, 16 11:21 PM
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We saw. It was a transparently childish response from a lazy punk who was too busy appeasing 6th century psysvhpathic camel jockeys to lift a finger and save 1100 Americans families from the unemployed rolls

What you think is honorable we see as utterly unAmericam. Think about it.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Dec 2, 16 4:19 AM
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Sounds like the trolls caught trains, instead of lining up for brains...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 2, 16 9:02 PM
Trump-induced anxiety - Slate / ROTF
Carol Wachs, a psychologist in private practice in Manhattan, recently started seeing an old patient again. The client had first sought treatment for anxiety following the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. Now she was worried about a new menace: Donald Trump and his zealous supporters. According to Wachs, the election casts a shadow on many of her patients. “If I have seven patients in a day, it comes up in six sessions, maybe five,” she says. “Sometimes ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 2, 16 7:26 AM

US
The Huffington Post

Donald Trump’s Conflict Of Interest That No One’s Talking About
A hotel mogul will now get to determine whether more workers get overtime pay.

Dave Jamieson
Labor Reporter, The Huffington Post

Pretty soon, Donald Trump may get to decide whether 4 million workers will get extra pay when they work long hours. You might say the president-elect has a dog in this fight. After all, some of those people surely work ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 2, 16 9:15 AM
Employee compensation should be only between each worker as an individual and the owner of the business with ZERO governmental interference.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 3, 16 7:23 AM
We tried that.

It was called the "Gilded Age".
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 3, 16 7:35 AM
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Times have changed since then Mr Z, the Government has no place in today's job market. in order to attract qualified workers , businesses would have to offer an attractive compensation package, competitive with other similar businesses. Please explain why you feel government has the right to interfere in this process. Thanks
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 3, 16 9:35 AM
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People haven't changed.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 4, 16 2:01 AM
Every time I read one of June Bugs posts,I picture the " two weeks" scene in the movie Total Recall. For those not familiar check it out on you tube. Have a great weekend everyone!!
By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Dec 2, 16 8:37 PM
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to Sturgis:

Quote:

"Every time I read one of June Bugs posts,I picture the " two weeks" scene in the movie Total Recall!!
-----------------------------------------------

- - - And whenever I read one of YOUR posts, I picture "Squiggy" making an entrance on "Laverne & Shirley".*


* Vide "'Laverne & Shirley' - Lenny and Squiggy 'Hello' - YouTube"
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 3, 16 10:44 AM
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HHS did I upset you ?
I guess you and June are going steady ?!

Bahahahaha
Awesome !!!!!

By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Dec 3, 16 3:48 PM
Between Deutsche Bank and Ladder Capital, Trump owes at least $646 million, and he has seven other loans listed on his financial disclosure form that could be worth another $125 million. Additionally, a real estate partnership Trump participates in borrowed $950 million from a group of lenders that includes the state-owned Bank of China. Trump's involvement in that loan may violate the Constitution's emoluments clause, which forbids top government officials from accepting financial benefits from ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 3, 16 8:56 PM
Dear Li'l Ms. J.Bug;

Jill Stein threw in the towel today -- doncha think you should, too? You know, just in the interest of getting on with your life.

As in, um, growing up1



By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Dec 3, 16 11:37 PM
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By Abc1234567890 (1), East Hampton on Dec 6, 16 7:15 AM
Interesting how it was OK for the Republicans to do everything they could to fight tooth and nail against the previous administration. This included questioning the man's citizenship, religious affiliation, and even calling his family "monkeys".

But, when the other side chooses to dissent, they are immature and need to grow up and accept the Republican candidate.

It is to laugh. H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 6, 16 7:27 AM
You can't be serious? A better name for you would be Mr. ZZZZZZZZ because you've been asleep for the last 8 years.

Trump won because the Rinos sold out their voters and walked obama across the finish line at every opportunity. Whenever obama felt like it, he went around congress with an executive order and ended up in front of a judge.

No wonder you libs play the race card. You can't play the competent card.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Dec 6, 16 8:21 AM
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Sure.

Because trolls are so credible.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 6, 16 9:12 PM
Al Franken has asked Jill Stein to run with him in 2020. Franken/Stein Ticket
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Dec 4, 16 5:31 AM
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Al Franken who's clam to fame was playing Stuart Smalley and his Daily Affirmations on SNL back when SNL was not PC and actually funny is going to run the country ? haaaaaaa

Just put Al Franken in diaper into Goggle Images and you will see how that will turn out . haaaa
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Dec 5, 16 10:56 AM
Trump answered his phone and the left spent 2 days claiming we are headed for war with China. Lol.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Dec 4, 16 5:42 AM
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to Sturgis:

Quote:

"HHS did I upset you ?
I guess you and June are going steady ?!

Bahahahaha
Awesome !!!!!"
---------------------------------------------

Let me reiterate the reply that I gave to your codependent, SlimeAlive, when he made the same wishful inference that he had “upset” me.

“Not at all ‘upset’, [Sturgis], but certainly ‘depressed’ - - - at the waste of my education tax dollars and ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 4, 16 9:29 AM
Your use repeated use of parenththetically is part of your affect
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Dec 5, 16 6:26 AM
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To HHS
Of course you're upset. Why else would an educated person such as yourself be compelled to respond ? I must say, I do agree with your assessment of the mental health services in our country, terrible indeed. Your comment on the subject inspired me to read and reflect on some of your previous posts. One thing came to mind. The appropriate idiom,"The pot calling the kettle black".
By Sturgis (611), Southampton on Dec 4, 16 3:00 PM
America’s Sleep Crisis Is Making Us Sick, Fat, and Stupid. But There’s Hope.

Sleep deprivation now rivals obesity and smoking as our greatest public health crisis. Here's what everyone (including America's businesses) needs to do to help stop our massive sleep debt and get more shuteye.

By Beth Weinhouse
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 4, 16 6:15 PM
Italy PM Renzi says he will resign following referendum defeat,

Merkel, Hollande Cameron Obama and the idiot global elites who think their right is to reengineer society by forcing Western nations to absorb the third world have been totally rejected. Finally the actual citizens are rising up against the destructive parasites.

GET ON THE TRUMP TRAIN..................................
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 5, 16 12:11 AM
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My Rice Krispies were using a lot of profanity today.
By loading... (601), quiogue on Dec 5, 16 9:29 AM
"Snap, Crackle, [expletive deleted] him."

~ George Carlin
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 6, 16 7:20 AM
It just amazes me that these company CEOs, Hollywood liberals and sports dummy's think they can throw temper tantrums and hurt traditional American values.

Its not only Kellogg's, take that Spiteful Kaepernick for example, He has single handedly destroyed the NFLs ratings... I find it hilarious the amount of other reasons most articles in other on line forums and papers are trying to attribute the fall of the NFL!

There comments are always disabled and they are in all out F O ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Dec 5, 16 10:38 AM
The NFL dictates how these fools celebrate a touchdown, but disrespecting our country should be left up to the players?

Liberals announcers and a league promoting PC over Football

Insulting the country

They wonder where the fun went?

Where the fans went?

Ask the CNN and the NYT how distorting the news effects ratings and circulation !

Donald and the Deplorables 2016
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Dec 5, 16 10:44 AM
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Thanks for asking.. NYT subscriptions up 10X

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/29/new-york-times-subscriptions-soar-tenfold-after-donald-trump-wins-presidency.html
By harbor (415), East Hampton on Dec 5, 16 11:54 AM
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How many print subscribers did the Times lose because of their biased coverage over the last 8 years. Come on tell us harbor. this bump is a very temporary situation do to the snowflakes liberals needing a safe space where there is no contrasting opinion. The owner of the NYT just announced how the Times will re dedicate itself to reporting the news fairly. WTF ? So I guess up to this point their reporting wasn't fair. I for one would agree since it looked to me like the NYT editorial page moved ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Dec 5, 16 12:16 PM
Fake news alert: The Times did not lose print subscribers because of "biased coverage". And it didn't "lose" those subscribers. They merely switched to digital subscriptions. Hear about technology, have you? And do please tell us how the Times, having relentlessly beaten the Iraq war drum and supported GWB, can be in any way considered "liberal".
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 5, 16 1:29 PM
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to harbor & June Bug:

More pesky facts getting in the way of Right-Wing (in this case Ditch Bum, joe hampton & loading..) beliefs.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 5, 16 1:40 PM
Really? As a proven leftist I'm sure you read the Bible of Liberalism regularly Bug. The Times was a shill for Hillary throughout the election cycle and have been a sycophantic lapdog for Obama, nuff said.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 6, 16 6:48 AM
The "Right" still believes fossil fuels and reading print newspapers is good for the planet. So, all those digital subscriptions don't count...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 6, 16 7:29 AM
Ask Roger Goddell, makes thirty million a year. Meanwhile, the NFL office that pays him is exempt from paying taxes!
By Mets fan (1501), Southampton on Dec 6, 16 9:07 AM
News flash, bigfresh: Any "Bible of Liberalism" endorsed Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are not liberals. They are centrists and promoters of Empire and corporatism which is the lane the (corporate) NYTimes drives in. And any "left-leaning" view either Clinton, Obama, or the Times espouses falls in the social category which is where most of the country sits. Being you profess to know so much about the Times means you must also be a consumer. Or are the lofty Breitbart and ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 6, 16 10:53 AM
Meet the Last of the Machinists Who Keep the 'New York Times' Running
Written by Jason Koebler
December 6, 2016 // 12:16 PM EST
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 6, 16 11:40 PM
Hillary and Barak are both Big Government tax and spend liberals. Most of the country are not social Liberals, that's a myth perpetuated by the lunatic fringe,take the whole freaky bathroom issue for example.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 7, 16 7:24 AM
Truthdig
The Mafia State
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_mafia_state_20161204/
27
Posted on Dec 4, 2016

By Chris Hedges



Mr. Fish

Systems of governance that are seized by a tiny cabal become mafia states. The early years—Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton in the United States—are marked by promises that the pillage will benefit everyone. The later years—George W. Bush and Barack Obama—are marked by declarations that ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 5, 16 1:16 PM
The truth flies in the face of what they believe.

They are not smart enough to see the segue to feudalism in modern society.

They ould have to admit what they believe in is a lie.

Good luck with that...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 5, 16 3:12 PM
No illusions. Pride plus an advanced degree from Alfred E. Newman University creates stubborn imperviousness. For now....
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 5, 16 6:37 PM
....... You should pace yourself or its going to be a long 8 years
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 5, 16 9:54 PM
Madonna Gives Billboard An Interview on 2016 Election
by Elizabeth Banks December 05, 2016, 8:57am EST

Were you surprised Trump won?
Of course. I was devastated, surprised, in shock. I haven’t really had a good night’s sleep since he has been elected. We’re f—ed.

funny how that works i have been sleeping like a baby, i had insomnia for years did not realize what it was. I'm at peace now
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Dec 5, 16 11:29 PM
Bill Gates, who reads a book a week, on one of his 5 best picks for this year:

"The Myth of the Strong Leader, by Archie Brown.
This year’s fierce election battle prompted me to pick up this 2014 book, by an Oxford University scholar who has studied political leadership—good, bad, and ugly—for more than 50 years. Brown shows that the leaders who make the biggest contributions to history and humanity generally are not the ones we perceive to be “strong ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 5, 16 2:31 PM
Jill Stein’s Election Recount Picks Up Only Five Votes for Hillary Clinton In Deep Blue Philadelphia. Has anyone seen Hillary AFTER she sobered up from her election night tantrum? She looks as though she's been homeless for a few months. Hard. Warn out. Mean. Beaten. Finally, her "look" matches her heart. Congratulations on the five votes June.
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 5, 16 10:10 PM
MERKEL'S U-TURN Angela Merkel calls for Germany BURKA BAN saying ‘the full veil is not appropriate here

Finally some common sense It's not appropriate anywhere!
Dec 6, 16 11:15 AM appended by They call me
ANGELA Merkel today completed an astonishing U-turn as she formally endorsed a full burka ban following a backlash over her open-door migration policies and the spreading of Sharia Law throughout Europe.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 6, 16 11:15 AM
Maybe a holloween party
By Ditch Bum (929), Water Mill on Dec 6, 16 11:18 AM
I can't believe it! So crazy. Fortunately we live here in the USA where ain't no government going to tell us what we can and can't wear. I feel sorry for the Germans, what's next over there, a law telling you who you can or can't kiss!?

USA
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Dec 6, 16 12:25 PM
I can't believe it! So crazy. Fortunately we live here in the USA where ain't no government going to tell us what we can and can't wear. I feel sorry for the Germans, what's next over there, a law telling you who you can or can't kiss!?

USA
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (747), southampton on Dec 6, 16 12:25 PM
Seems as if the full burkha is meant to keep women subjugated , why no outrage from the left?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 6, 16 12:26 PM
Where indeed ?
Dec 6, 16 3:07 PM appended by They call me
why no outrage from the left ???
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 6, 16 3:07 PM
Religious freedom, perhaps?

There are a multitude of women who wear one because of their faith. Simple as that.

When you actually learn how to spell burka (burqa), maybe your opinion could carry weight...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 8, 16 7:03 PM
Get used to it:

‘He got up there and lied his a– off': Carrier union leader on Trump’s big deal

The Washington Post
Danielle Paquette
1 hr ago
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 6, 16 8:10 PM
Yes. We are already used fans of the worst president in history and most flawed presidential candidate in history how we got worked over. Lol
By even flow (1023), East Hampton on Dec 7, 16 4:31 AM
Unions = Trouble makers... Just look at our own Verizon strikers ! Fine example of human beings that lot is!

Michael Moore: ‘Disrupt the Inauguration’ Speaking of trouble makers !

“Disrupt the Inauguration! Silence is not an option,” Moore tweeted Wednesday morning to his three million Twitter followers.
Dec 7, 16 2:03 PM appended by joe hampton
It's pathetic that this Crockumentary filmmaker doesn't seem to know when he's beaten. But, then again, a steady diet of fast food and Media Matters tends to make a person fat and stupid.
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Dec 7, 16 2:03 PM
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Trump = pathological liar in chief

“History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it.”

“Nations are not communities and never have been. The history of any country, presented as the history of a family, conceals the fierce conflicts of interest (sometimes exploding, often repressed) between ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 7, 16 6:37 PM
Trump = pathological liar in chief

“History is important. If you don't know history it is as if you were born yesterday. And if you were born yesterday, anybody up there in a position of power can tell you anything, and you have no way of checking up on it.”

“Nations are not communities and never have been. The history of any country, presented as the history of a family, conceals the fierce conflicts of interest (sometimes exploding, often repressed) between ...more
Dec 7, 16 6:38 PM appended by Mr. Z
A Renegade History of the United States: How Drunks, Delinquents, and Other Outcasts Made America, by Thaddeus Russell
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 7, 16 6:38 PM
Not all unions are bad, I agree the actions here locally by Verizon workers was boarder line thuggery and those workers should be ashamed of there actions on the streets of our towns. maybe the police will arrest them next time they pull that garbage.

But unions serve are necessary function in our society and peaceful demonstration is democratic.
By local 84 (353), riverhead on Dec 8, 16 11:59 AM
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Fierce conflict of interest between "Capitalists and workers"??!! Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?? Another anti capitalist comment.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 9, 16 6:41 AM
Another shred of proof you have no idea what you are talking about.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 9, 16 6:45 AM
care to defend that quote from your C&P?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 9, 16 3:01 PM
Yeah. I took the time to read a multitude of actual history. From the Sumerians, to the Phoenicians, straight up through the empires that followed and the economics thereof. From Tulipmania straight through the Great Depression to the current day. The sad truth is that 12k was the average price for an acre here in 1970. 70k today. Things are askew, and you are clueless as to such. Otherwise, you would not post such drivel.

Your retort is simplistic garbage.

If you really ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 9, 16 8:51 PM
I'm impressed that you have spent the time to educate yourself on the subject, however, in your C&P there is a quote about a "fierce conflict of interest between CAPITALISTS and workers". Please elaborate on this. Do you really feel that there is an adversarial relationship between employers and employees? Do you truly feel we are living in a feudalistic society? I am well aware of the increased value of real estate here , anyone with a lick of sense does. It's just the way it is living in one of ...more
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 10, 16 8:36 AM
The problem is you absolutely do not grasp the historical content of the quote. If you did, you wouldn't be asking a stupid question.

By the way, please explain this:

Only Half Of America's 30-Year-Olds Are Making More Than Their Parents Did

Lauren Gensler, Forbes Staff
Dec 10, 16 7:21 PM appended by Mr. Z
"Trickle Down" does not work: "The fading American Dream, say the researchers, can largely be blamed on increasing income inequality. While the fortunes of the upper crust have grown, the middle class has been left behind. In order to give more people the chance of outearning their parents, the authors of the study posit, economic growth has to somehow benefit more people across the income spectrum." However, you go ahead and keep blowing your horn, Little Boy Blue...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 10, 16 7:21 PM
I grasp the meaning of the quote Z, and it is just another in a loooong line of anti capitalist , class envy posts . Our current president has not created a business friendly environment, Obamacare has forced many companies to employ only part time workers due to onerous regulations. Look, we are each responsible for our own financial situation , we all have the same opportunity and some will do better than others, some will excel and some will not, some will be average wage owners and some will ...more
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 11, 16 8:16 AM
No. No you don't. You don't grasp it at all. Your simplistic banter about the glories of a system which has failed billions of people since 1602 is just repetitive tripe. To quote one of my favorite old tunes, "So many lose, some do win", eh? You still don't believe income inequality is a problem, but the best economic minds say it's the biggest drag on our economy. Even further proof is your pathetically calling any talk of it "class envy" which is a baseless, unintelligent, uneducated blathering ...more
Dec 11, 16 8:45 AM appended by Mr. Z
Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 11, 16 8:45 AM
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OK , what is your answer to the alleged "problem" of income inequality and the evils of capitalism?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 11, 16 11:51 AM
Rules, regulation, and actual enforcement. Whether you like it or not, capitalism is an inherently destructive mechanism when allowed to run unfettered and unregulated. Human greed is one a hell of a drug. History has proven that repeatedly. "Law and order", remember?

The road back to post World War II levels of prosperity for all who put in a hard day's toil will be hard and unpalatable to many. Socialism created America's successful middle class. That's a fact. Whether you like ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 11, 16 6:10 PM
Yes, Z, all of the above, and a few additions. What we presently have, though, is capitalism for the poor and socialism for the rich. In a real capitalist economy you wouldn't have taxpayers bailing out failed banks and major financial institutions. The rich and powerful don't want a pure capitalist system nor do they like pure democracy, but rather prefer plutocracy which exists now.
Ideally there should be a roll-back to the original primary purpose of a corporation which was devotion ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 11, 16 7:33 PM
OK, please cite how "Socialism created America's successful middle class." Seems to contradict "Post WWII levels of prosperity for all who put in a hard day's toil." Being successful by working hard is not Socialism by a long shot, the workers toil for a BUSINESS and are paid for their labor. Agreed about the Congressional insider trading, K Street lobbyists and investing in nano technology, but not the rest. Some common ground perhaps?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 12, 16 8:39 AM
Bug- Do you really believe what you just posted? "Reduce inequality and "fetter" capitalism"? Not all jobs are worth $15 per hour, an employer does not have to deal with a union, so unionizing low wage workers will result in a lot of them out of work, some businesses work on a very low profit margin and arbitrarily raising wages will put them out of business, that means NO JOBS. Right to work laws are a good thing and there is no reason to eliminate them. Why punish the most productive members of ...more
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 12, 16 8:50 AM
It only doesn't make sense in the mind unable to delineate the difference between socialism and communism.

Will post later...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 12, 16 2:06 PM
k thanks
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 12, 16 6:48 PM
There's a fatal flaw in your wage hypothesis. If the minimum wage had been properly tied to inflation and rampant fiat currency printing it would breach $20/hr. Trickle down has failed, and 10% of the population has reaped 90% of the "reward" in recent years and beyond. Nice rigged system, if you're on the side of the fixers. Think LIBOR.

Socialism provided affordable education to a generation during a time in which a middle class family could make ends meet quite well on one breadwinner's ...more
Dec 12, 16 7:21 PM appended by Mr. Z
What the 1% Don't Want You to Know, Moyers & Company **** Capital, by Thomas Piketty *** "Between 1977 and 2007 60% of the nation's income went to 1% of the population. FACT.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 12, 16 7:21 PM
Minimum wage is just that , the minimum pay per hour for entry level , unskilled labor , and was never intended to provide for a family. I disagree with your definition of socialism but admire your tenacity.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 12, 16 7:27 PM
Your disagreement is irrelevant. You are blatantly incorrect to call it "my definition". Perhaps you should read up on the author and economist you talk so much disparaging **** about.

Communism is a classless society. Socialism is a caste society functioning through social stratification for the benefit of a commonwealth. The modern United States is an oligarchy.
Dec 12, 16 7:41 PM appended by Mr. Z
It has become more than obvious that you lack the spatial reasoning ability to wrap your mind around this subject. And if you do have it, you fail to utilize it.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 12, 16 7:41 PM
"I've had a long time to make enemies, doctor. So many governments, business interests, even religious leaders that would like to see me depart this Earth. I'll grant them their wish soon enough. But before I do, I wish to make a small contribution. A final gesture of good will to the people of this little planet who have given—from whom I have taken—so much."

~ S.R. Hadden from "Contact", by Carl Sagan
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 12, 16 8:00 PM
You asked for the answer(s) to income inequality and unfettered capitalism, did you not? Apparently you are not in favor of any of them which reveals an "I've got mine" attitude and a lack of understanding of the perils of inequality vis-a-vis democracy.
No point in rehashing disagreements or trying to show where you're totally off-base. I will simply point out that the $5,000 at birth for every citizen would come from tax revenues and would not be a fund. It would be a stock certificate ...more
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 12, 16 8:53 PM
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Too much governmental interference to create a caste society ,with no motivation to work harder and smarter than any other drone to benefit yourself. This is where we will continue to disagree, I am a proponent of individual hard work with the government staying out of the way only providing a safety net for those unable to succeed. You do not, that's life and what keeps things interesting.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 13, 16 7:23 AM
Nope.

You definitely have no idea what you're talking about. The safety net you describe is socialism.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 13, 16 1:28 PM
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Trump saved the world. The US under Trump will be the catalyst for events all over the world.Only Trump could have beat Crooked Hillary & MSM!

I never saw one man take such a beating, for so long, at such an old age.

TRiUMPh!
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 7, 16 9:54 AM
Meets with Al Gore one day and selects climate denier and ally of fossil fuel industry the next.
Son-in-law's newspaper editorial urges FBI crack-down on protesters.
Welcome to hell, people.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 7, 16 4:21 PM
Selection cited was for head of EPA.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 7, 16 4:24 PM
Okay, you win, Li'l Ms. J. Bug -- you'll probably have, without much strain, another 48-50 months of material to carry on about.

Go too it. Time's a-wastin'.



By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Dec 7, 16 4:34 PM
Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.”

~ Frederick Douglass
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 7, 16 7:24 PM
The troll presumes too much...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Dec 7, 16 8:18 PM
"Worthless"? A lovely case of projection, perhaps?.

What unhealed childhood wounds prevent you from overcoming an apparent need to persistently express hostility? Even in this season of good will and good cheer? Disagreeing is fine, personal attacks are unkind and unhelpful. Now get out there and look for the beauty in the season, in the folks you meet, and in life in general. Hate hurts everyone. Even you.
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 8, 16 10:37 AM
Yes, let us all follow the benevolent example of JunZy and find beauty in this holiday season... Peace on earth and good will to men !

"As stated for months now, Trump will never be president. Not only will he not win, but he will lose by historic proportions. Such is the panic in the Rethuglican party over such a thumping. Watching the sorry excuse for a human being go down in flames. Now there's full exposure of what a lying, thieving blowhard he is.As I've been saying right along, he ...more
By joe hampton (3461), Hamptons on Dec 8, 16 12:11 PM
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Big difference between a candidate for public office subject to assessment and anyone either in support of, or opposed to, said figure. I find Donald Trump abhorrent, but notice the absence of personal attacks toward anyone who supports him. In my eyes (and in those of more than half the country) he's totally undeserving of anyone's support, but that is your right. I'm simply suggesting something reciprocal, but it appears nothing as generous is in your wheelhouse(s).
By June Bug (2680), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 8, 16 9:42 PM
GOP leaders, including House Speaker Paul Ryan, have quietly ended an unpopular 2015 program to annually outsource another 198,000 blue-collar jobs to lower-paid foreign workers.

...but I still don't trust Ryan.
By loading... (601), quiogue on Dec 7, 16 4:50 PM
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FRANCE’S LE PEN PLEDGES NO SCHOOLING FOR ILLEGAL MIGRANTS

Its a start, a bit to late but they finally see what these people are doing to Europe
Dec 8, 16 11:24 AM appended by They call me
Viva Le Pen! About time someone in Europe said what everybody is wanting.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 8, 16 11:24 AM
Set up safe zones in there own country's.So that they can be safely housed and schooled. Let them migrate legally to the West after they have proven to be civilized members of society for a decade.

We must break the cycle of 12 year old male jihadist's and abused women for anything to change in these countries. The only thing we can do is provide internationally funded green zones in these country's for refugees to escape radical mindsets and change these places slowly over time!

Who ...more
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 8, 16 11:40 AM
very well thought out tcm,

smart, logical and compassionate for all. president trump should pick you for secretary of state ;)
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Dec 8, 16 11:45 AM
Cant do it Erin, to busy keeping the Internet safe from HHS, JunZy and Philth.

But thank you the same.
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 9, 16 5:05 PM
Lots of people voted for Trump just to show the middle finger to the DNC, who showed the middle finger to them during primaries. Even more just stayed home because they did not have a candidate to vote for. Of course Bernie would have been the better choice!

By local 84 (353), riverhead on Dec 8, 16 11:53 AM
Shat! Flavor Flav would have been a better choice
By They call me (2826), southampton on Dec 9, 16 5:10 PM

Hey, White Working Class, Donald Trump Is Already Screwing You Over
The Carrier deal was a sham. Ivanka’s moving her shoe production out of China—and into Ethiopia. Wake up, people. You’ve been played.

J. REID

12.09.16 1:05 AM ET
Dear Working-Class White Trump Voter,
You’re probably going to read this as sour grapes, and I certainly am sour about a family of kleptocrats moving into the White House because 80,000 of your votes in states that ...more