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UPDATE: Southampton Town Officials Work To Clean Up Icy Roads

Montauk Highway in Hampton Bays was practically deserted on Thursday morning as a winter storm bears down on the area.  DANA SHAW
Feb 10, 2017 3:03 PM

UPDATE: Friday, 12:30 p.m.

Southampton Town officials were working hard Friday morning to clear icy roads left over from Thursday's storm that made driving hazardous for East End residents.

According to Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman, all town-owned roads were plowed, and the town’s highway department was working on plowing some private roads. He noted that County Road 39, a road maintained by Suffolk County, still had major patches of thick ice and there were still “bad spots” on a lot of the back roads in the town.

The supervisor made the call early Friday morning to keep Southampton Town Hall and town offices closed after talking with Southampton Town Highway Superintendent Alex Gregor and Southampton Police Captain Lawrence Schurek about the icy road conditions.

“People have been calling me and telling me I made the right decision,” the supervisor said on Friday. “The roads are really bad.”

Although he was not entirely certain, Mr. Schneiderman said he believed power was returned Friday to the roughly 1,450 homes that lost power on Thursday.

Mr. Schneiderman said roads were still icy on Friday because of Thursday’s blizzard conditions and fast wind that added to snow drifts—which turned to ice from Friday’s freezing temperatures.

“The temperature’s dropping to very cold ranges so that things are really freezing now,” the supervisor said. “I think that is complicating our efforts in cleaning it up.”

On Thursday, the supervisor, along with police officials, assisted several residents whose vehicles were stuck in the snow, including a mother and her two special needs children in Hampton Bays and a senior citizen in Riverside.

Mr. Gregor could not immediately be reached for additional information on cleanup efforts on Friday.

UPDATE: Thursday, 2:55 p.m.

Roughly 1,450 homes are without power in East Quogue as a result of the storm, according to Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman.

According to PSEG Long Island, there are a total of 6,263 customers without power on Long Island. Of those customers, 6,103 of them are in Suffolk County. According to a map monitoring outages posted on the PSEG website, Hampton Bays is also experiencing several outages, with 592 customers impacted. Further east, 186 homes are powerless in Water Mill, 151 in Napeague, and 107 in Montauk.

“The mix of wet snow and blizzard conditions impacting the service territory may increase the likelihood of downed wires and power outages, but we are prepared and working to restore any outages as quickly and safely as possible,” said John O’Connell, vice president of Transmission & Distribution at PSEG Long Island in a statement.

Anyone experiencing an outage should call the PSEG Long Island Electric Service number at 1-800-490-0075.

UPDATE: Thursday, 12:20 p.m.

Southampton Town and Southampton Village officials have both issued a state of emergency.

As part of the emergency, only emergency vehicles are allowed on the roads at this point and parking on town roadways is prohibited. Residents are encouraged to stay home.

At the same time, small power outages are being reported in Montauk, Sag Harbor, North Sea, Southampton and Westhampton.

UPDATE: Thursday, 11:30 a.m.

County Executive Steve Bellone has declared a state of emergency for Suffolk County effective 11 a.m. Thursday.

At the same time, Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman is reporting heavy snowfall throughout the town, with ice and snow piling up. In the western portion of the town, officials are reporting visibility of roughly 30 feet, with eastern neighborhoods reporting a visibility of 100 feet.

PSEG Long Island is also reporting power outages in Quogue and Westhampton Beach along Dune Road, with 128 customers without service in the area, according to the outage reports. Six customers are reported without electricity in Hampton Bays.

UPDATE: Thursday, 10:10 a.m.

An unexpected hot air pocket is keeping rain on the Southeast tip of Long Island, mostly from Amagansett to Montauk, but colder wind is expected to blow into the area in the next few hours converting rainfall into snow, according to the National Weather Service.

Western portions of Southampton Town have seen a steady snow fall for the past several hours, with Tim Morrin of the NWS saying that thundersnow, essentially a thunderstorm associated with the heaviest snowfall, is moving into the area this afternoon.

The storm is currently reaching from Suffolk County to New Jersey, with Mr. Morrin saying there are still several hours of snow left for the East End.

UPDATE: Thursday, 8:10 a.m.

The National Weather Service is now calling for between 12 to 16 inches of snow for Southeastern Suffolk County and white-out conditions.

Temperatures are slated to be in the 20's, with visibility of less than a quarter mile with blowing and drifting snow.

East Hampton Town and Westhampton Beach Village have both declared a state of emergency for Thursday. All East Hampton, Southampton Town, and Westhampton Beach facilities have been closed for the day.

UPDATE: Wednesday, 3:45 p.m.

Suffolk County has been upgraded to a blizzard warning for Thursday.

Under the warning, the National Weather Service has upgraded snowfall predictions to anywhere from 10 to 14 inches of snow between 3 a.m. Thursday and 6 p.m. that evening. The NWS says that heavy and blowing snow are highly likely, and power outages are a strong possibility throughout the area.

Travel will also be extremely dangerous, with officials recommending having a winter survival kit when traveling and if stuck to stay with the vehicle.

According to Faye Barthold, a meteorologist with the NWS, in order to qualify for a blizzard warning, officials anticipate wind will be in excess of 35 mph and visibility will be less than a quarter mile for at least three hours.

In terms of snow fall predicted, Ms. Barthold said further east on Long Island may receive higher inch totals, but in general the predictions are fairly uniform throughout Suffolk County.

UPDATE: Wednesday, 12:20 p.m.

Meteorologists are now saying the East End should brace for up to a foot of snow on Thursday.

According to Brian Ciemnecki of the National Weather Service in Upton, eastern Suffolk County will likely be in the higher end of the 6 to 10 inches of snow range, with the growing possibility of receiving up to 12 inches of powder.

The snow, which is expected to start sometime after midnight, will be heaviest between 8 a.m. and 2 p.m. Thursday, Mr. Ciemnecki said, adding that snow will likely fall at a rate of 1 to 2 inches per hour. At its heaviest, the storm could dump 3 to 4 inches per hour, he added.

“The most important thing for people to know right now is that tomorrow morning we are expecting snow to spread over the entire area and in the morning hours it will fall heavily in a short period of time,” Mr. Ciemnecki said. “Travel will become almost impossible, and I think it is really important that people understand that you don’t want to be traveling.”

UPDATE: Wednesday, 8:45 a.m.

A winter storm warning has been issued for all of Long Island, officially being upgraded from a watch at 3:22 a.m. on Wednesday by the National Weather Service.

Experts are still predicting between 6 to 10 inches of snow for the region. The storm warning will remain in effect from midnight on Wednesday through 6 p.m. on Thursday, with heavy snow accompanied by winds gusting between 30 mph and 35 mph. The National Weather Service is also predicting hazardous travel conditions all day on Thursday, with visibility between a half to a quarter mile at a time.

The National Weather Service is encouraging people to avoid travel on Thursday, but if necessary bring extra food and a flashlight in case of emergency.


The East End should brace for a possible 6 to 10 inches of snow on Thursday.

According to John Crispantello, a meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Upton, it is becoming more likely that Long Island will receive significant snowfall later this week. The storm, he said, is expected to start sometime after midnight on Wednesday, with heaviest snowfall tallies Thursday morning.

In addition to the snow, residents can expect winds between 40 mph and 45 mph Thursday morning. It is still early enough, however, for the snow predictions to change over the next 24 hours.

A winter storm watch was issued for all of Long Island at 3:22 p.m. on Tuesday and warns of hazardous travel from snow covered roads and poor visibility with temperatures only in the 30s on Thursday.

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Montauk's high tide tomorrow night around 7 PM will be the first tell of any tidal surge issues associated with this storm, which will likely end up as another Nor'easter IMO. Strong easterly winds on Thursday could affect Lazy Point, and the western parts of Peconic Bay, similar to the last storm a few weeks ago, during the morning and evening high tides.

Boston NWS just posted snowfall estimates upwards of 12" suggesting IMO that The East End could get more snow than Upton NWS is forecasting ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Feb 7, 17 5:30 PM
Let the Hwy Dept. Overtime Flow
By Mouthampton (439), Southampton on Feb 7, 17 8:47 PM
Per the article's update, the NWS has raised snow estimates for The East End, with NWS Boston calling for 13" there. Cancellations for Thursday activities include Stony Brook, the Hampton Jitney, and various local functions -- per WLNG's "Closings/Delays" tab on its home page.

The real wind and tidal action will start in the morning, and blast through in less than a day.

Stay safe!
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Feb 8, 17 3:01 PM
Guess ill be coming home to damaged trees for the third year in a row...

disgusting white filth !
By joe hampton (3461), On Vacation on Feb 8, 17 10:39 PM
curmudgeon [ker-muhj-uh n]


1. a bad-tempered, difficult, cantankerous person.

grouch, crank, bear, sourpuss, crosspatch.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Feb 9, 17 6:08 AM
Joe please stop in Washington DC and slap the whining cry baby aside his head, for complaining about the other branches of government dong their Contitutional jobs!

Can't handle the reality of being only one of three branches in a democracy?

By Nero (301), Sag Harbor on Feb 9, 17 12:37 PM
Just got off the phone with my men... they say this storm will do more damage to landscaping and homes than the last 3 years of big storms we have been pummeled by year after year lately received. branches damage from weighed down ice layer under snow.

You would not understand Mr Z.... have fun sleigh ridding or whatever the hell you do

I may just call it quite and stay down here after this one. Enough is Enough
By joe hampton (3461), On Vacation on Feb 9, 17 1:20 PM
That's simply nature joe. That which does not bend breaks. You can't beat Mother Nature, just ask Monsanto about their super weeds.

Nature v. Nurture should be an easy concept for a "conservative" to grasp.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Feb 9, 17 5:42 PM
On the moving radar, it looks like the worst of the snow early on may go a bit north of us IMO, with rain/mix south of us. The air temp at Buoy 44017 SW of Montauk is 43. Once the center of the low gets east of LI, however, the strong NW wind cold air mass is what is going to cause the blast of snow later this morning and afternoon, as it slips under the warm air mass coming up from the south. Could be intense.

Montauk tides only about 1' above normal, with no strong easterly winds expected, ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Feb 9, 17 6:14 AM
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UPDATE: 7:51AM... Everyone is a whimp, they blew the forecast, and all employees rejoice at the chance of an unexpected day off. The end.
By The Royal 'We' (199), Southampton on Feb 9, 17 7:51 AM
Power is out on Mtk Hwy in Quogue now
By J&S (2), Quogue on Feb 9, 17 12:23 PM
Solis proxima quinque post meridian.

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle!
By Nero (301), Sag Harbor on Feb 9, 17 12:33 PM
Town Officials working to clean up icy roads. You got to be kidding me! It's the hard working men and women drivers/operators/laborers of the Southampton Town Highway Department that are out in the streets clearing the roads. NOT TOWN OFFICIALS! How about allowing the Highway Workers to receive the same contractual salaries and benefits as their coworkers in Town Hall that the Highway Superintendent,a Town Official is preventing. He doesn't have his important asset, his workers, back.
By great river (4), southamptn on Feb 10, 17 3:26 PM
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I think all the highway crews did a great job with what type of snow storm it was and it is easy to talk from a good nites sleep in a warm and dry house.I would like to see you do a better job and go around the clock trying to keep up when you could not see anything with white out conditions for most of the storm,again thanks to all who did there best.
By taxpayer1 (72), Southampton on Feb 10, 17 8:35 PM
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I don't think they did a good job either. It is possible I am judging too harshly but the roads were still terrible 24 hours after the storm was over with plenty of sunlight to help out. Maybe I'm just not familiar with the logistics but they had plenty of warning on this one.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on Feb 10, 17 10:33 PM
Most of the roads in eastern Suffolk County, especially The East End, are in bad shape due to the pattern of precipitation: rain/wet mix/sleet followed by lots of snow and bitter cold. The bottom layer of wet concrete ended up freezing solid, and is almost impossible to remove with a snow plow. Only warmer temps and direct sunshine will remove that layer of hard ice.

In the meantime, liberal applications of sand and salt on top can make driving closer to safe. If drivers would slow down ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Feb 11, 17 4:08 AM
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What happened to "pretreating" the roads? This seems to work in places where the administration and the workers get ahead of the game. The snow removal in both the Village and the Town of Southampton is less than it should be. Why?
By localcitizen (110), Southampton on Feb 11, 17 7:30 AM
Due to the forecast of rain ahead of time the roads weren't pretreated because of fear of it being washed away
By Barley Dunne (21), Southampton on Feb 11, 17 5:22 PM
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By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Feb 11, 17 7:34 AM
WOW!! I know some of those people who drive the plows. They are GOOD local people!!! They aren't using METH you A****** I give them alot of credit for what they do! Ever snow plow during a blizzard pal? Yea I didn't think so ! You couldn't handle it! Instead you choose rude snide instigating remarks (like some few other select special people on this site). Please take your rude comments to another site! Your rear end wouldn't get very far on the roads if you didn't have these people, you just insulted, ...more
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Feb 11, 17 10:02 AM
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If people had to use a real name they'd be a lot less prone to be nasty in comments sections like this. I don't understand why it's allowed when one can't write a letter to the editor anonymously...

keyboard bullies...cowards hiding behind anonymity...
By Barley Dunne (21), Southampton on Feb 11, 17 5:20 PM
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It does not help when people point their snowblowers towards the road and plow their driveway onto it as well. In many places the wind just blows snow back onto the road.
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Feb 11, 17 8:22 AM
THANK YOU to ALL the people who worked so hard to clear the roads as best they could. You all did a great job considering there was too many people out an about on the roads making your job a more difficult.
By toes in the water (884), southampton on Feb 11, 17 10:06 AM
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Thank you Southampton town highway crews for all that you do, great job.
By Resident tax (186), Hampton bays ny on Feb 11, 17 10:15 AM
Everyone worked hard but the town was shutdown for a extra day . A 6 inch storm with ice and wind should not close the town And schools for two days.
By Obserever (40), Southnampton on Feb 12, 17 7:43 AM
Yes it can, and did.

The first of the snow was not powder, it was wet. You'd know that if you shoveled any. If enough pressure is applied, the water acts like glue and creates a layer of ice on the road. Add to the fact it dropped to about 25 degrees overnight "iced" the deal.

Anything that was wet or packed froze through the evening and overnight.
Feb 12, 17 8:09 AM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, were you one of the fools out there driving on the roads making it worse? Vehicle travel tends to pack snow, and create ice...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Feb 12, 17 8:09 AM