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Feb 1, 2019 2:28 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press & The Southampton Press

Southampton Could Combine With East Hampton To Create One Large East End Football Team

East Hampton Athletic Director Joe Vasile-Cozzo speaks to those in attendance about the future of East End football at Pierson High School on January 30. DREW BUDD
Feb 5, 2019 9:42 AM

The ever-changing landscape of varsity football on the East End may be re-shaped once again.

Officials from various school districts on the South Fork met with community residents at the Pierson High School gymnasium on January 30 to discuss the possibility of the Southampton/Pierson/Bridgehampton football program combining with both East Hampton and the Ross School to form one team for the 2019 fall season, and possibly beyond. The change would affect all varsity and junior varsity programs for the districts involved, while the middle schools would continue to serve as separate entities.

For the past few seasons, Southampton/Pierson/Bridgehampton has been competing in Division IV in Suffolk County with approximately 30 players or so between varsity and JV, while East Hampton hasn’t fielded a varsity team due to low numbers.

Combining with East Hampton and Ross could potentially nearly double those numbers and give the program depth that none of the schools have seen in years.

The meeting was meant to be informative and to gauge the interest of all the involved communities, and answer any questions or concerns.

East Hampton Athletic Director Joe Vasile-Cozzo, Pierson Athletic Director Eric Bramoff, East Hampton football coach Joe McKee and his coaching staff, Ross School Athletic Director Howard Brown, Southampton football coach Bruce Muro and his coaching staff, and Southampton Superintendent of Schools Dr. Nicholas Dyno were all in attendance.

Many schools have seen a dip in numbers across Long Island, and while Southampton is certainly not immune to that, Coach Muro said that his team could sustain being on its own for the foreseeable future, at least the next two years. That means that Southampton holds all of the cards when deciding whether it would combine with East Hampton and create a program of a conglomerate of schools, much like the South Fork Islanders, the boys lacrosse team made up of student-athletes from Bridgehampton, East Hampton, Pierson, Ross and Southampton.

Whether the logistics would work out similarly to that of the boys lacrosse program has yet to be determined, and realistically, is a question for further down the road.

“Like they said, the ball is in our court,” Muro said. “I welcome them, I just want it to work for my kids, too. If they come, they make things so much better, they make life so much easier for us—it’s a no-brainer. I just want it to work for everybody. It’s all stuff that we can work with and make happen.”

There also has to be, Muro said, a uniform coaching philosophy in place, and all of the coaches would have to be on the same page and teaching the same lessons, which could be difficult.

“Our X has to be their X because now, [if you don’t], you’re hurting the kids,” he said. “The kid comes up to JV and these kids know X and these kids don’t, it’s not fair.”

Whether Southampton could sustain a team beyond the foreseeable future is up in the air. Muro said that from Southampton to Montauk, there were 19 kids who played on the local Police Athletic League 12-year-old team. That number could fluctuate over the years, but Muro said that’s what the schools are going to have to choose from in five years, not nearly enough to create a varsity program with the schools not combined.

And, if Southampton decided not to combine with East Hampton now, there is a strong possibility, Vasile-Cozzo said, that there won’t be an East Hampton program to combine with to help Southampton down the road.

“It’s always easier to combine than to uncombine,” he said. “If we do it now, we can build the program up and see where it takes us.”

The first order of business, Vasile-Cozzo said, is giving Section XI, the governing body of Suffolk County high school athletics, an answer as to whether the programs would join. If Southampton signs off on it—which it has not yet done—then Vasile-Cozzo and Southampton Athletic Director Darren Phillips would have to find placement for the team, which is where things get a little dicey.

Currently, football in Suffolk County is separated by four divisions set by enrollment size—the largest schools play in Division I and the smallest schools play in Division IV. Since the county went to this format well over 10 years ago, Southampton has always been placed, based on its enrollment, in Division IV. East Hampton has moved up and down between Division III and Division IV—part of the reason why it hasn’t had a program in recent seasons, due to the fact that it would have to play in a very competitive Division III if it wanted to be able to qualify for playoffs.

If all five districts were to combine, it would have a combined enrollment size of 1,609 students and be placed in Division I with the largest schools in the county, such as perennial powerhouse William Floyd, Ward Melville, Connetquot and Longwood. The team would be eligible for playoffs, no questions asked by Section XI.

But there may be a few more options.

Vasile-Cozzo has gone to Section XI before and asked for alternative placement for his school in football, which means that even though it’s technically a Division III school, he asked if it could play in Division IV. Section has agreed to that in the past, on the condition that East Hampton would not participate in the playoffs. Part of the reason why Vasile-Cozzo wanted to have last week’s meeting was to see if the combined team was alternatively placed in Division IV, would Southampton be okay with not having an opportunity at making the postseason. Some of Southampton’s coaches and parents had a hard time with that issue, while some brought up the fact that Southampton hasn’t had a winning season since 2005, when it won a county championship. It was noted that that team had 19 players on it during that season.

“I think every year there’s that optimism,” of making the playoffs, Phillips said. “I think that’s a big thing. The whole combined numbers really shouldn’t matter. There’s no doubt in my mind we belong in Division IV. Tuesday, Joe and I will go to the placement committee and whatever comes out of that we’ll go to the conferences with and go from there.”

Another option is that Vasile-Cozzo and Phillips could continue to fight Section XI on changing how the teams are placed, going from enrollment to ability-based divisions, something the two have been proponents of for years and have been lobbying for but to no avail. Vasile-Cozzo said that section’s explanation when it comes to that issue is that the state goes by enrollment numbers so therefore it goes by enrollment numbers. But Vasile-Cozzo said that Long Island football—both Nassau and Suffolk counties—does not follow all of New York State’s rules in football and doesn’t even compete in the state tournament, so it could deviate from the enrollment-number placements if it wanted to.

What is also in play here is the trickle-down effect that occurs when schools move up and down divisions. If the teams were to combine and agree to playing in Division I, Division IV would need another team which would be the smallest school in Division III, most likely Miller Place, a school that has fluctuated between Divisions III and IV recently. Schools in Division IV could fight the East End school’s conglomerate to move, so it wouldn’t have to compete against what is a usually competitive Miller Place team.

“There’s always a fight,” Vasile-Cozzo said. “Now, they did make a change to the by-laws recently where teams are on a two-year placement, so you don’t necessarily have to bump someone, so that’s huge.

“Ideally, we would like to combine and be appropriately placed based on ability, which would include playoffs,” Vasile-Cozzo said. “That’s what we’re shooting for. But I didn’t want to do that without getting everyone together first, and I don’t want to tell people something we can’t deliver on, so I’m hoping that that is something we can go for.”

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I wonder if any of the smaller schools across Long Island have considered starting their own 6 man football teams. It's already played by hundreds of teams across the country.
By itsamazing (224), Southampton on Feb 1, 19 3:25 PM
Give it up... Just start two soccer teams... Spanish claases and no pledge to our flag???
By knitter (1941), Southampton on Feb 1, 19 6:47 PM
Sounds like Reconquista wasn't just something the hard left was joking about when they started throwing that term out a few decades ago.
By NateNewtown (99), east on Feb 2, 19 10:38 AM
This is what happens when half the school population are interlopers. They already have several Spanish only in JMES where there isn't a focus on academics but "feelings". Its pathetic. Its also why I send my kids to private school.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 2, 19 6:41 AM
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Telling your neighbors they're unwanted or don't belong, particularly when many of them are children who were brought here without choice, is divisive and cruel.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 3, 19 8:50 AM
If you came here illegally then you don't belong; you are a criminal.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 5, 19 6:57 AM
Criminality requires an element of culpability. People who were brought here through not fault of their own are not culpable.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 5, 19 7:18 AM
The adult parents came here illegally, they don't belong; they are a criminal. The fact that they chose to include their children in their crime thereby making them an unwitting accomplice doesn't change the fact that the children are illegal and don't belong; what the parents did by subjecting a minor to that degree of abuse is nothing short of cruel and neglect in addition to criminal.
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 5, 19 8:30 AM
Sure, deport the parents, but why do you want to punish the children when this is the only country they've ever known?

Deporting someone who's American in all ways except on paper is cruel and unfair. Even you've agreed that public opinion is against it even if your own isn't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 5, 19 8:51 AM
Who said deport/punish? You. But now that you raise the issue of potential consequence, deportation is certainly an option to which I would agree for both.

The pervasive sense of entitlement aside - come here illegally and application to any legal repercussions is now off the table - poor children, don't you know, when in reality, these are the consequences of the decisions made that are no different than any other parental decision that impacts a child.

The fact remains, both ...more
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 5, 19 11:56 AM
Saying "they don't belong" is akin to "get them out" isn't it?

In any event, even if some folks (like you) don't understand how it would be cruel and unfair to deport people who arrived and grew up here through no fault of their own, most people do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 5, 19 12:00 PM
No, saying "they don't belong" is simply that...a very clear statement reflective of the situation.

In any event, even if some folks (like you) don't understand how it is unfair to not hold those people accountale for their decisions even if it involves consequences of their actions, most people do.
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 7, 19 8:53 PM
So you're not proposing any particular action, you're just telling your neighbors they don't belong despite many of them being here for decades? Nice.

I'd love to hear your evidence regarding majority support for "consequences" applied to people who lack culpability for their undocumented status.

Here's my evidence of support for a path to citizenship:

"Harvard CAPS-Harris survey found that 76 percent of voters say that those who were eligible for protections under the ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 19 6:08 AM
Who am I to propose, anything. No my yab.

I'd love to see you re-read my second paragraph again and tell me where I specifically mentioned anything about culpability. That said...since you seem to hold polling in high regard toward policy...

"CAPS-Harris survey found that 84 percent of voters say that U.S. immigration policy should prioritize a person’s ability to contribute to society over whether the potential immigrant has relatives in the U.S."...."That sentiment even ...more
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 8, 19 11:13 AM
People who arrived and grew up here through no fault of their own (or as you like to put it, "those people") lack culpability, whether or not you admit it.

Where does it say that "most people" want them to suffer personal "consequences" for actions they didn't choose to commit?

Focus now, we're talking about DACA recipients specifically.
Feb 8, 19 11:24 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Whatever way you wish to spin it now, the fact remains that most people disagree with deportation as a consequence for "those people" unlike you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 19 11:24 AM
No, you're talking about DACA recipients specifically. I was not.


They're "lack of culpability" has nothing to do with their status or lack there of and everything to do with the decisions of their parents to place them in the precarious status. They have zero right to anything.
Feb 8, 19 2:14 PM appended by Po Boy
"You people" crack me up.
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 8, 19 2:14 PM
Well, then be advised that most people disagree with you on deportation being a desirable option for DACA recipients.

I understand they don't have rights, that's why I point out that most people are in favor of enacting a law that GIVES them rights.
Feb 8, 19 2:25 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I understand you're not moved by the prospect of deporting a person who arrived and grew up in this country through no fault of their own, but it turns out most people are.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 19 2:25 PM
Happy Ground Hog Day!...and citizenship should not be afforded to those whose status is that of illegal regardless of the issue of culpability. These are the consequences of their adult parent's decision - the type of decision that parents make each and everyday that impacts a child's life.

Where did I mention any opinion on deportation?

By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 8, 19 2:30 PM
You gave an opinion when you said "deportation is certainly an option to which I would agree for both."

I know you feel that a path to citizenship shouldn't be available to dreamers, but most people disagree.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 19 2:38 PM
No where did I suggest deportation was "a desirable option," simply one consequence that I would support.

In reality, you have no idea whether "most people" are represented by a simple poll. An online poll of 1,932 people does not make for representation of the opinions of the country. Public polls do nothing more than attempt to influence national opinion...not reflect it. Let alone, a year old poll. But, the results do make you wonder why Democrats didn't support a DACA deal when it ...more
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 8, 19 3:03 PM
Lol, so you don't find deportation "desirable" but you do think it'd be an "agreeable" solution, that's some fine hairs you're splitting.
Feb 8, 19 3:05 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
By the way, the percentage of respondents who support a path to citizenship for DACA recipients rose to 83% in September.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 19 3:05 PM
But a distinction nonetheless.

By the way, September of what year? Was that when president Trump wanted to provide relief as part of budget negotiations? That was the one Democrats said "no" to? All that said, I beleive the poll "The poll finds a record-high 83 percent of voters support setting up a system for all illegal immigrants who are currently working in the country to become legal residents." LEGAL RESIDENTS. Note, there are no details as to what that "pathway" involves and it ...more
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 12, 19 9:27 AM
No problem, I'll make sure to quote your "agreeable" stance on deportation instead of besmirching your name by suggesting you find it "desirable"

By the way, it's now down to a paltry 81% of people who support allowing immigrants living illegally in the U.S. "the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time." (Gallup, Feb 2019)

On a related tangent, 60% of those polled are also opposed to construction of new border walls.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 12, 19 9:36 AM
Some polls identify 8-in-10 calling illegal immigration a ‘problem,’ 58% say ‘serious’. Only 10 percent said illegal immigration is "not a problem."

A Gallup poll also identified immigration as the most important problem.

Go figure.

One thing is certain, polls are short on details and should NOT be the deciding factor in setting policy.
By Po Boy (5299), Water Mill on Feb 14, 19 12:57 PM
I agree that public opinion is not necessarily how you arrive at the best solution, I'm just pointing out that public opinion is far less agreeable than you to deportation as a solution.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 14, 19 1:14 PM
Preliator, what’s that got to do with the article? Nothing right?a changing dynamic in school enrollment, interlopers? Good one. Change scares you I see.
By Fred s (3321), Southampton on Feb 2, 19 7:39 AM
No Fred, change doesn't scare us. Lawful immigration doesn't scare us. Your traitorous insistence that this country has no right to control it's borders is pretty scary. I mean, how much self loathing and hatred towards this nation must you have to "embrace" mass illegal immigration.

Football's waning for other reason in any case. Head injury concerns, adolescents finding video games to be preferable to physical sports, the general disgust at multi-millionaire barely literate professional ...more
By NateNewtown (99), east on Feb 2, 19 11:48 AM
According to the latest numbers, we control the "border" fairly well.

How about y'all crowdfund a campaign to buy Mexico?

That way, the boder'd be shorter...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Feb 2, 19 9:23 PM
I love change...I also love the law and follow it. I expect the people who wish to come to this country to do the same. If you don't you don't belong here. Its that simple.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 5, 19 6:58 AM
Now reconcile that belief with the fact that many undocumented people were brought to this country as minors without choice.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 5, 19 7:15 AM
Bad parenting in no excuse for breaking the law nor a reason to reward them.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 6, 19 8:23 AM
Are you saying people who arrived in the U.S. as children through no fault of their own and are American in all ways except on paper "don't belong here"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 6, 19 4:11 PM
Yes. They are here illegally. I have to follow the law. You have to follow the law. We have rules for a reason, if you are going to grant them an exception then you have to give it to everyone. New York is not an NFA state but I still want a full auto M-16. Can I go out and buy one and expect Andy Cuomo to give me a pass? Hell no. The law is the law, you don't like it too bad.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 7, 19 6:59 AM
But you understand how those children lack personal culpability for the decisions someone else made for them, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 7:06 AM
Not my problem, choices have consequences. I can't do anything about late term baby murder, the Left certainly has no care for the decisions someone else makes for those children, in fact they cheer for it. You can't have it both ways. Their parents broke the law, their parents failed them; deal with it.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 7, 19 8:07 AM
So you DO understand that they lack personal culpability for decisions someone else made for them, you just don't care.

I think that's a cruel and callous view, but you're obviously welcome to it. I would just suggest that most people disagree.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 8:58 AM
Most people these days aren't too bright.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 8, 19 7:56 AM
Even if that were true, despite evidence that average IQ gradually increases in the population as time passes (known as the "Flynn Effect"), wouldn't that make them easier to convince if you're so right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 19 8:31 AM
Some people don't like being told their wrong. more so now that we live in the era of brainwashed sensitive snowflakes. It is unfortunate but at this point we'll just have to let history repeat itself. Nature has a way of separating the wheat from the chaff.
By Preliator Lives (437), Obamavillie on Feb 8, 19 3:02 PM
Well if you're smarter than everyone else that really is the answer to everything, isn't it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 8, 19 3:06 PM
Nate, spare me your self righteous nonsense. My traitorous insistence?i have no loathing or hatred for my country. Listen to yourself, what you are saying about me, with zero proof,is exactly what you are saying about yourself.you should think a little before you speak
As to the football players, project much? Sounds like you have a problem. Someone peacefully takes a knee at a sporting event, and you make a National incident about it. They weren’t arguing for their own “oppression ...more
Feb 2, 19 12:31 PM appended by Fred s
Small footnote, nfl players taking a knee are the scourge of the earth, but neo nazis protesting are decent people according to trump. How you figure that
By Fred s (3321), Southampton on Feb 2, 19 12:31 PM
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I assume kids are not playing football because of the risk of head injuries.
By Rich Morey (378), East Hampton on Feb 2, 19 8:28 PM
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f = m . a
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Feb 2, 19 9:10 PM
Even playing solid "iron man" football, 30 is on the small side. Victory is far harder with less than 35 men.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Feb 2, 19 9:01 PM
Concussion science is killing high school football. Districts with insignificant immigrant populations across the country are dropping football because parents and kids don’t want to play the sport. Millions of American born kids have been raised playing soccer and just prefer it to football. It’s a beautiful sport. Now turn off Fox News..take a deep breath.. and join the 21st century.

By harbor (415), East Hampton on Feb 3, 19 8:40 AM
The sport is dangerous and borderline child abuse. Not worth permanent damage to a child's brain.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Feb 3, 19 2:40 PM
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Icecreaman, that’s why people don’t want their kids playing football. Thanks for all the insults, it definitely helps your point.keep up Your enlightening posts.
By Fred s (3321), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 7:33 AM
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What exactly is the point of football?
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 7:53 AM
When I played it was to hurt the guy across from you until he didn't want to be across from you anymore, then go score points.

I'm sure technique is different now, but the violent nature of the game is part of the reason millions of people tune in every Sunday.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 7:58 AM
Violence should be frowned upon in a public school setting, in my opinion.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 8:31 AM
Do you think that should apply to all contact sports? Wrestling comes to mind, for example.

I don't think the school should end football or wrestling altogether, but parents & students who want to participate should be aware of the short-term and long-term risks of engaging in inherently-violent activities.

The drop in participation would seem to reflect that concern, unless you buy into Mr. Softee's gripe with "demographics."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 8:45 AM
Unless you can point to a sociological, educational or character building aspect of rolling on the ground with another sweaty guy in a unitard, yes.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 8:49 AM
When I wrestled it was about learning discipline and self-defense while improving personal fitness.

There's also the teamwork, camaraderie, and lifelong relationships associated with any team sport.

But if you choose to view it from a homoerotic perspective, that sounds like a personal decision.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 8:54 AM
Always entertaining to read through the comments section of these articles. People, whom you would believe to be adults, take an article about HS football and turn it into an illegal immigration argument and when they become frustrated (because they're arguing in the comment section of a 4th rate local publication) they start insulting each other. Great entertainment while enjoying my morning coffee. Thank you icecreamman, Fore & Fred S.

As for the article, it would be great to see the ...more
By EQuoguer (7), East Quogue on Feb 7, 19 8:26 AM
They are tough, but they are 4 feet tall and weigh 112 pounds.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 8:32 AM
I try not to insult people, just their ideas, so if you can quote where I insulted anyone I'd be grateful.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 8:40 AM
Sorry, maybe I confused a personal insult with an insult of 'just their ideas'. Constant references to icecreamman as 'Mr. Softee'. I got a slight chuckle out of that one. clever stuff...
By EQuoguer (7), East Quogue on Feb 7, 19 9:55 AM
EQuoguer, sorry if my comments offended you. First off I like The Southampton Press, been reading it for 50 yrs. plus, this is a public forum, so as a member of the public I comment on here.my original comment was that it’s a changing dynamic out here, nothing more nothing less.i said change scares some. The rest is history.
By Fred s (3321), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 10:04 AM
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EQ: thanks for keeping me honest. I try to keep it light while also confronting my neighbors over our disagreements without getting too personal, always remembering that there's a living, breathing person with their own experiences, thoughts, and feelings on the other side of the keyboard.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 10:11 AM
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I said it’s a changing dynamic. Go re-read your comments, they show you insulting. Keep the Kleenex, you seem to need them.
By Fred s (3321), Southampton on Feb 12, 19 6:26 AM
"WAKE UP" fred! It's the immigrants!

Specifically the undocumented ones which are less likely than their documented counterparts to play football for some reason!

Mr. Softee's theory cracks me up.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 12, 19 8:37 AM
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Several actually, some to agree with myself and some to disagree: I'm everyone except you, icecreamman.

If football participation is declining because "the middle class has left Long Island and been replaced with people not from here" then wouldn't there be an increase in football enrollment in the places those people moved to?

Nationwide declines seem to fly in the face of your theory:

"According to a study published by the National Federation of State High School Associations, ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 13, 19 8:10 AM
Great point! Can you tell us what there is about 10, 8, and 6-person football that makes kids & parents prefer it to 11-man?

Could it be a greater emphasis on ball skills instead of collisions for concussion fears?

By the way, if you're so inclined to research, you should finish the articles you cite: "this is reflective of schools with declining enrollment trying to hold onto football — not a true source of growth."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 13, 19 12:13 PM
Schools nationwide "desperately trying to field football teams" with less numbers seems to support my assertion that the decrease in participation isn't because of the people who "left Long Island" because if they still wanted to play, they would be playing elsewhere and those numbers would be increasing.

Schools "desperately trying to field" teams with less people still means there's less people.

What point did you think you were making?
Feb 15, 19 7:32 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Now keep trying to tell us that football doesn't cause brain disease, just like smoking doesn't cause cancer, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 15, 19 7:32 AM
If football is dropping because the people who want to play "left long island" why wouldn't they play elsewhere?

You realize they're "desperately trying to field" reduced football teams because they don't have enough people to field 11-person teams, right?

That's literally part of the article: interest isn't increasing, they're making due with the remaining interest they have.

Smoking doesn't cause lung disease, it's the repetitive scarring of lung tissue that does it, ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 15, 19 8:31 AM
The point of all sports is to sell ad space. Sporting events are the vehicle which advertisers use to sell you stuff. That's it.
By SlimeAlive (1181), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 8:50 AM
Who's selling ad-space for a pick-up basketball game?

Have you ever scored a touchdown? Wasn't it fun?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 7, 19 8:55 AM
Liberals get sacked 24/7.
By themarlinspike (542), southampton on Feb 12, 19 8:53 AM
Boy, you let that one percolate for a while, didn't you?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Feb 12, 19 9:05 AM
Regarding the actual article on Football and the East End Schools:

I find it interesting that Southampton School District families are willing to take time and effort to combine resources with other districts for the sake of FOOTBALL- yet, the people of the District could not FATHOM combining resources to include Tuckahoe children into their district.

I guess if it's for sports, it is important enough to spend money and time on. Otherwise, no....

Priorities in the District ...more
By Shinnecock Hills family (59), Southampton on Feb 7, 19 5:59 PM
Maybe after they move into their $220,000 a year rental district office (plus moving and relocation and set-up expenses) coming out of the operating budget (not the $8M reserve for district office), they will be able to focus on the children they claim to be educating.
Save millions in useless school district administrative costs. Combine the East End Districts, or at least some of them.

By deepchanel (89), Hampton Bays on Feb 8, 19 11:41 AM