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“We need to maintain our competitive edge in the global market,” he said. “I think the whole notion that smaller governments are the solution has been taken too far. Small governments have helped facilitate the worst abuses on Wall Street and otherwise. The problems right now are so great that government has to be part of that solution and I think that’s a real difference between where I think our economic future lies and where the people running against me do.”
Leaving the forum, those in attendance said they were hopeful that Mr. Bishop would win reelection, but Ms. Frankl said she was worried over the recent announcement that Suffolk County Legislature Jay Schneiderman was considering entering the race.
“I think Bishop could beat Scheiderman in a primary,” she said. “But maybe it would just be a diversion of resources, which could be a problem.”
John Whelan, who was a Democratic candidate for Town Board in November, said with Mr. Bishop he feels like he has “a direct link to Washington.” But Mr. Whelan said he was unsure of how the political climate in town would treat Mr. Bishop in the November election.
“It’s a difficult climate and people will really be concentrating on the big issues,” he said. “But I really don’t know the landscape or how people are feeling about Tim specifically.”
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GOOD BYE TIM
He has my vote and the votes of many others....keep up the good work Congressman!
Given that, I had the opportunity to work for Mr. Bishop while he was the provost at Southampton College. During that time, he and his wife, devoted their life to keeping the college afloat, Mrs. Bishop developed a program for children at the college. Meanwhile, during my tenue there, he held the highest ideals ...more and always prided himself in development of the college students who enrolled in Southampton.
Historical, before being elected, he was an passionate about the enviorment. When I was a much younger man, I remember driving down Dude Road heading west to the town beach, and you could see the ocean and the bay, today, that is no longer the case.
I am not in Congressmen's Bishop District, nor do I agree with some of his views, however I must come to his defense, when his character is being assisinated.
In regards, to the meeting that was held, I do not believe that the Congressmen was trying to avoid healthy debate, he just asking for respectfuly discourse in a in year of extreme points of view. I believe that he knows, he has a fight on his hands, and he never struck me someone who would want to coast along. I for one wish he well, if I lived in his district, I would come to his aid. With every good wish Congressmen Bishop!!
Say, Templar, it's more than a little inconsistent for you to speak of having ...more a "respectful discourse" with the Congressman when in the same post, you've called him "scum, traitor, progressive, socialist, party shill, moron, idiot, fool, and kool-aid drinking boot licker." Seems like there's a bit of a disconnect there.
As for ...more him hiding away, not true. I went to one of Mr. Bishop's town halls a few months ago at the Rogers memorial library and the streets were lined with angry protesters shouting profanities and carrying signs that were completely out of bounds, as is always the case when the congressman goes to speak. Inside the meeting there were any number of "right-wing" opponents to Mr. Bishop including a young man in the front row who started out the evening being extremely disrespectful. He clearly was not a fan of congressman Bishop and, despite a number of attempts by moderators to get him to follow the rules (comments on a note card), he kept directly challenging Mr. Bishop. The congressman did not ignore or dismiss him, but instead directly answered the man's questions and, by the end, he had not won over a new voter, but he had certainly won this young man's respect.
To compare this congressman or any other to a "a pedophile at a school playground" is, in my opinion, disgusting. The moderator of this board did not remove it, but I wish he had because when you speak that way, you are giving permission to the crazies out there. That comparison is so over the top, that I believe it could promote violence against the congressman.
It is one thing to have thoughts of your own, but quite another to ignore the responsibilities that come with free speech. Again, I find you words to have been completely inexcusable, but it does take a courageous person to apologize and you have. Thank you.
I also sympathize, very much, with your need to vent -- same here. I just had to smile ...more at the notion of a "respectful discourse" in the same post with that list of names you called the man. It's an impressively eloquent list, by the way, and equally impressive are the names you conjured up for your side: "teabagger, racist, homophobe", etc. I've always admire good cussing.
I know your frustration goes beyond the narrow issue of availability for questions, but Tim Bishop has been more available than you think. Enter "Bishop" on this site and click "Search", and you find that the second half of 2008 saw meetings in Quogue, Westhampton Beach and Montauk. 2009 saw meetings in Southampton, Setauket, Farmingville and Hampton Bays, plus two telephone town halls. These were all publicized in advance and audience questions were taken at all of them. I didn't find any in 2010.
On Bishop's health care vote, check out this 3/23/10 piece on 27east: "Health care reform's effect on New York's First Congressional District". You'll see things like closing the doughnut hole and improving Medicare for 112,000 people; guaranteeing coverage for 8,700 people with pre-existing conditions; tax credits and other coverage help to 97,000 families and 20,000 small businesses; the end of annual and lifetime limits on insurer payouts; and 49,000 young people being covered on their parents' plans to age 26. There's a lot more and it's all good. The source is the House of Representatives Committee on Energy and Commerce, but remember that committee has both Dems and Republicans on it, so the data shouldn't be biased either way.
So suppose Tim Bishop stood at a meeting and listed these things, bang-bang-bang. What would you say? What fault would you find? If you want to know how it will be paid for, I think that's a valid concern, but if you just think this is government doing too much, I'd have to say I think government hasn't done enough, and this measure is long overdue.
But forget you and me for the moment. Look around the room at this hypothetical meeting. Look at that young family struggling to make it, those old people choosing between food and prescription medicine, that husband nursing a wife with cancer. What do you think they're going to say when Tim Bishop runs down this list of good things? They're going to love it, and they're going to remember in November who did it for them.
It always been my belief, that the Southampton Campus would make an ideal location for a marine research center, similar to Woods Hole in Mass, to protect what has become a fraigle long island envioroment, we need something similar to Association for the Preservation of Cape Cod, which is far ahead on maintaing and preservering their fraigle enviorment. Personally I think you should be up toll booths at hospital road, in Patchogue, and any family that has more than one vehichle registered at one address, should get charged accordinly Of course if the vechicle is a hybrid they get a green pass or we could build a Monorail System down the suffolk part of the LIE to the east end, It would certainly ease traffic and provide jobs and most importantly, save the enviorment. Ok Ok I just need to get that off my chest, Now about the gum on my shoe.....ha!
Just aside, the artist that was comission to paint the poster for the us open is from Bohemia, that is up island. Things must be tough for gallery owners/artists all the competition out there ...more for the high end artists to make money.. Patchogue is ahead of the curve, building lofts, galleries for artists I suggest you stick the facts of your industry. I notice alot of your post(s) reflect your profession (visual) i.e. dilapidated college. the mansion, and the windmill are visual gems and someone saw the beauty in
Grey Gardens.
The only thing better than that is having no opponents, at all.
Hate - Antigovernment extremists are on the rise—and on the march
http://www.newsweek.com/id/236202?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+newsweek%2FTopNews+%28UPDATED+-+Newsweek+Top+Stories%29
By the way, the tea party was about taxation WITHOUT representation. The founding fathers established the government we have today - a government of popularly elected officials. Our founding fathers were humanists, idealists who believed in freedom and equality. They were (for the most part) intelligent, well-educated men of letters - just like the majority of those on the far left. But let's not completely idealize our founding fathers who were, after all, mere mortals who, in their infinite wisdom, did not see fit to grant voting rights to women and who not only owned slaved, but believed blacks to be only 2/3 human.
Are you on social security and/or do you intend to receive it? Are you on medicare and/or do you intend to receive it? If your house catches on fire do you want the taxpayer financed fire department to come with their hoses? Would you like to abolish public schools and the VA?
In the meantime, I will tell you that currently every single American pays over a thousand dollars a year as part of your private insurance premium to cover the uninsured. A cost you will no longer have to bear.
In addition, if you make under ...more $250,000 and, like me, you must purchase your coverage in the private market, your insurance premium will DECREASE considerably? If you are a small business person your coverage will DECREASE considerably. These are facts, so forget the necon hyperbole.
Don't believe me? Of course not, but how about the conservative Washington Post? Try their "What does the health care bill me to me" calculator here http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/what-health-bill-means-for-you/
Your side calls everything you disagree with propaganda. You say every fact is a lie and you use blanket phrases like socialism and marxism and Obamacare to describe a health care plan that REMAINS in the hands of private insurers. Personally, I believe we should take private insurers and profit out of health care. Even then it would not be "socialism". The anti-government movement which you and so many others have embraced is nothing more than a sham. It is a movement of hypocrisy and falsehoods. Folks on medicare and social security crying socialism.
Since when was the American way to say eff you to those in need of help? I guess you feel the uninsured should simply remain that way and that is OK for 44,000 people a year to die for lack of health care as long as the government stays off of your back? Medicaid costs 30% less than private insurance, yes there is fraud, but it works and it works at a incredible savings. So why not solve the fraud and quit crying about entitlements that you yourself either do or one day will enjoy.
I have provided direct evidence of what I say and you call it all propaganda. You have refused to answer any one question directly and have instead chosen to fall back on cliched talking points. Yes, this conversation is a waste of time.
OUR founding fathers created the United States Constitution in order to correct the problems of the Articles of Confederation which was a central government so weak and ineffective that the nation was falling apart and on the verge of economic collapse. The nation had 3,929,214 people with 94% living in rural areas.
Included in the US Constitution are mechanisms for flexibility and growth to meet the needs of changing times namely the amending process ...more and the elastic clause, (Article I, Section 8, and Clause 18). The Framers knew that times would change and they created a document to meet those changing times.
Today, we have 306,000,000 people with the largest economy and military in the world. It is wrong to compare the United Sates to day with that of the United States in 1789 with regard to the intentions of the framers.
The US Constitution was the most LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE document of its day as all other modern countries of the day were monarchies (Kings, Queens, Czar, Shoguns & Emperors etc...) without codified governments.
As far as the Framers favoring the Tea Party people over the far left…….The Founding Fathers were the Far Left of their time…….except for Hamilton.
I would love for the government to take private insurers out of the picture. That is called single payer and that is NOT what happened.
Asking me not to ...more use name calling? You're kidding, right? You are so completely wrong about the health care legislation that you are either intentionally misrepresenting what happened or you just do not care about the truth.
As long as folks like you keep posting such nonsense, there is no need for me to bash conservatism - you're doing a terrific job all by yourself.
Also as ...more stated earlier the Founding Fathers provided for change in authority in our federal government through the amending process and the fact that Congress can make laws.
We are now faced with private industry chocking the rest of the country including individuals, families, businesses and municipalities and the Federal government has responded to the abuses of the insurance industry.
By the way….why do you fight for the insurance companies? They would let you die over a technicality.
I did not make the history it just is.....you may want to look into something a bit more informative than a seventh grade text, might I suggest…the “Federalist Papers” Publius (Hamilton, Madison & Jay), “1776” David McCullough and “Founding Brothers” H.W. Brands.
Do not speak for the Founding Fathers…….ever.
GOOD BYE TIM
YOU ARE A BUM
They are forcing citizens to purchase a product.FACT
If we don't purchase the specified product we will be fined. FACT
Taking over the means of production, part of the banking industry and making the citizens subserviant to the govt. are all Marxist tacticts, add that to Omama's comment about "spreading the wealth around" and it adds up to a frightening assault on the very fabric of our nation.
No one is being "forced" to purchase insurance. In fact, if you had bothered to study the bill you would see that there are actually NO penalties for remaining uninsured. FACT
There are not fines. If you do not purchase you will not be eligible for tax incentives and breaks but there are no fines. ...more FACT
You said Obama took over the private insurance industry, I explained that is completely false, and instead you move on to new, bigfresh lies. You need to rely on other news sources beyond Glen Beck.
1. in 2014 the GREATER of 95$ or 1%
2. In 2015 the GREATER of 325 or 2% of taxable income
3. In 2016 the greater of 695 or 2.5% of taxable income. After 2016 the penalty will be INDEXED for INFLATION (meaning it will go up)
One could argue as I do that the penalty is not high enough. ...more If the insurance companies need to cover presxisting condition why not just pay the penalty and obtain coverage when you get sick. There are so many problems with this bill and only time will tell how it will play out. Also cant wait to see if they will now deny illegals covergage seeing they are not mandated. I'm sure they will still be getting the coverage for free.
Now, since you seem to be so in love with private insurers, let me share another bit of info with you, Allisa Fox, a top lobbyist for Blue Cross said, "it's a mandate with no penalty, and a mandate with no penalty is not a requirement," Fox said. The insurance industries preference: Severe penalties to force you to buy THEIR insurance, because, after all, contrary to teabag talking points, the government has NOT taken control of insurance but left it in the hands of private companies who are still looking for ways to _____ you. It is private insurers who insisted that everyone be mandated so their profits would not diminish.
The penalties you mention? Yes, they exist, but guess what - they took the enforcement provisions out of the bill. Plain and simple. So without enforcement, there is not penalty and it will, in the end, still be left up to the individual. Just ask your friends over at Blue Cross.
The right spins this legislation to suit their hysteria, but it does not make it true.
Whether you call it a penalty or ineligibility for a tax incentive or anything else, what's ...more wrong with making everyone pay their share by carrying insurance? A lot of people, many of them the same people who oppose the present health care legislation, strenuously criticize the free ride that they say illegal immigrants enjoy by getting government services without paying taxes for them. Again putting aside whether or not that's really the case, why don't these folks see a problem with someone getting health care for nothing while the rest of us pay?
If you know some better way than a mandate to fix this problem, let's hear it, but no rants, please, just real, thoughtful suggestions.
Also, does BIG Insurance work? How much money are they making annually?? For the life of me, I do not understand why you tea-baggers are defending insurance companies. They would just assume let you die over a missed initial on page 42 paragraph 6 on a policy that you had paid into for thirty years.
Those insurance companies are chocking the nation...individuals, businesses & municipalities.
Thank god we have ...more people in government who are willing to take on such abuse on behalf of the people.
Why are you against a soda tax? It is a fact that soda is bad for your health and a leading cause of childhood obesity which costs the taxpayers billions ...more of dollars a year. You are ALREADY paying a soda tax, a pizza tax, a fast food restaurant tax in the form of increased health care costs.
Instead of banning these products, we should allow people to partake as they please, but, just like you scream and yell about entitlement programs, why should I have to pay for someone else's indulgences? We tax cigarettes and alcohol, don't we? Would you prefer a "socialist society" where each and every individual must share in the cost of their neighbors health and welfare or would you prefer a "free society" where you can do as you please as long as you pay your own way?
Your hypocrisy is overwhelming.
1. The Feds can provide some reasonable guidelines for insurance companies to end any abuse so long as they do not become so themselves.
2. There are some legit concerns about government over reach and it would not be fair to try and brush that aside.
3. Some folks are really concerned about how this is going to be paid for and why isn't Congress thighting their ...more belts like most Americans.
4. People out there do need real help but how can any one expect a big agency to do it when the Feds can't run the ones they have now. Seems to me you should really fix what you have before piling on more. Am I wrong?
All your side knows is childish insults and ignorance. Despite the fraud which needs to be addressed, Medicare ...more spends 30% less for the same care than private insurers. Get a life, Razaa.
Taxpayers earning less than 200,000 will pay roughly 3.9 billion more in taxes-in 2019 alone- due to health care reform according to the joint commitee of taxation, congress'e official scorekeeper.
The new law raises 15.2 billion over 10 years by limiting the medical expense deduction (the 7.5% of AGI#), a proviision widely used by taxpayers with a seriuous illness or are older. JCT estimates the deduction limitation ...more will affect 14.8 million taxpayers-14.7 million will earn less that 200K