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Apr 15, 2012 6:08 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: Motorcyclist Injured In Saturday Night Crash Has Surgery, Still in Hospital

Apr 17, 2012 9:37 AM

A Flanders motorcyclist who was airlifted to Stony Brook University Medical Center following a Saturday night collision with a car in Riverhead has had surgery and, as of Monday, was expected to remain in the hospital for a few more days, according to his sister.

Joseph Manglaviti, 19, was flown by Medevac helicopter to Stony Brook University Medical Center for the treatment of a broken femur and ankle after the motorcycle he was driving was hit by a car on Route 58, Riverhead Town Police said.

The teenager was driving a 2009 Suzuki eastbound on Route 58 at about 7:39 p.m. when he was hit by a 1998 Toyota being driven by Ellen Carmody, 54, of Riverhead, who was making a left turn onto Kroemer Avenue at the time, officers said.

Mr. Manglaviti, who police said had the right of way, was rushed by Riverhead Ambulance to the Riley Avenue Elementary School landing strip, where he was transferred to a Suffolk County Police helicopter and taken to Stony Brook University Medical Center.

On Monday, his sister, Erica Manglaviti, said from the hospital that her brother was doing “as good as expected.”

“He did have surgery on his left leg, the femur, and a rod was inserted. He has three breaks in his ankle and a few other breaks in his hand,” she said, adding, “Hopefully we can save more lives with being more aware on the road.”

Ms. Carmody was not injured in the crash, police said. They said it did not appear that any charges have been filed in connection with the crash.

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As usual, a car violates a motorcyclists right of way and it is reported as "motorcycle collides with car". It is always assumed by the police investigating these accidents that the motorcyclist was at fault by going to fast even when there is absolutely no evidence to that effect.
By Frontline (3), CALVERTON on Apr 16, 12 4:46 AM
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Seems you are assuming that he wasn't going fast. Did you witness the accident?
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Apr 16, 12 9:46 AM
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If a car is making a left turn, it must yield right of way to oncoming traffic. If you don't know this you must be a horrible driver. The motorcycle had the right of way, period.
But frontline, the motorcycle did collide with the car, because she cut him off-- so technically the report is not misleading, as fault wasn't insinuated.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 16, 12 2:10 PM
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AlwaysLocal, if you witnessed this tragic accident please contact the Riverhead PD.

Thanks you.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 16, 12 2:29 PM
I reaf this a few times and actually I do not see where they pass blame.
Apr 17, 12 12:48 AM appended by khan
Sorry...read.
By khan (36), hampton bays on Apr 17, 12 12:48 AM
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No I am quite aware of that Always Local. The point the OP made was SPEED. If the person was SPEEDING, it changes the situation. I didn't say who was to blame, I wasn't there. I have no idea if she "cut him off" or if he was driving fast, and she didn't see him in time. Wouldn't be the first time I saw a motorcyclist acting as though the rules don't apply to them. Don't know what happened.
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Apr 19, 12 7:54 AM
I understand that, bb, but whether the motorcycle is going 5 mph or 100 mph, he STILL has the right of way. I too have seen alot of motorcyclists blantently disregard the rules of the road, and it bugs the heck out of me, but I don't believe that this young man was at fault.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 19, 12 1:54 PM
"100 mph" makes no difference?

The "right of way" exists only for those whose actions can be SEEN by others! And for those who are obeying the law.

Speeding? No inherent right of way IMO.

Come on . . .
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 19, 12 6:00 PM
Hope the young man is OK. But I will tell you the driving habits by a large portion of the motorcycle community is troubling. Plus these high speed motor cycles are a danger to all of us. Just yesterday there were 4 moving at extremely high rates of speed going in-between cars and on the divider in their race. I was at 55 speed limit and they passed me by like I was stending still. Crazy behavior and the warm summer months will only lead to more careless behavior by these folks.
By realistic (472), westhampton on Apr 16, 12 8:38 AM
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As everyone sits here and begins to debate, or argue, or pretend they know what happened. My family and I sit at my brothers bedside, thanking God every second of the day that he is here with us, where he lays with many injuries and broken bones. If you dont know the facts please dont comment and or assume. My brother was HIT while someone was making a left turn, now I'm not sure what kind of drivers you all are, whether its a car, truck, motorcycle, bus, bicycle....but when you are making a left ...more
By ekmc2424 (1), Flanders on Apr 16, 12 11:48 AM
Our prayers are with Joseph and your family.

If Frontline and realistic witnessed this accident, please contact the Riverhead PD and tell them what you saw.

Thank you.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 16, 12 12:17 PM
Given the time of day ( twilight) and the fact that motorcycles are less visible than cars or trucks, it is possible that Ellen just didn't see the bike approaching, they are easy to overlook in the traffic scheme of things, I know myself that I have nearly ran into a couple of them, you just cannot spot them as easily as a larger vehicle... I know Ellen personally and she is a great lady.. I am glad the accident wasn't more serious.
By Bill in Riverhead (190), Riverhead on Apr 16, 12 12:43 PM
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The headlight is always on on a motorcycle.The woman driving the car was wrong. However when ever there is an accident between a car and a motorcycle the driver of the motorcycle almost always loses. They are just too dangerous.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Apr 17, 12 6:13 PM
I was flown to Stony Brook in 1998 after an accident that left me with injuries that were questionable in their extent. Due to a split second decision by emergency personnel it was decided that I should be airlifted to Stony Brook. This decision at the time seemed to be a cautionary measure and one which the aforementioned personnel fretted over because of public doubt like that expressed by icecreamman. While in the air the Suffolk County Police Aviation unit and perhaps local volunteer paramedics ...more
By WMFlyPt (13), WaterMill on Apr 17, 12 10:03 PM
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"Glad you got the care u needed" lol, it's pretty easy to play monday morning quarterback isn't it, icecreamman. If you read WMFlyPt's post the medevac ride is the "precautionary measure" with which you seem to have a grudge. In this case it saved a life, and had you been the one calling the shots this man would be dead (in an attempt to save the taxpayers money)
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 18, 12 1:17 PM
Did someone put crack in your ice cream, man?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Apr 19, 12 5:38 PM
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My goodness, what a weird discussion!

To all those who feel that resources are misused by medevac-ing patients to Stony Brook etc., please file a DNR request (Do Not Resuscitate) ASAP with all applicable government agencies and EMS services. Please file a "DNC" request (Do Not Chopper -- this may be a new acronym) and confirm that you have done the above, and attached a placard to your torso, so that EMS technicians know that you DO NOT WANT the best possible care imaginable.

YOUR ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Apr 19, 12 4:56 PM
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You know what, icecreamman, PBR is right, just leave a note saying that when you get into a horrible accident, don't waste the precautionary expenses on yourself, that'll save the taxpayers money (which you seem to be worried about) but more importantly, you won't be able to post your backwards rhetoric on this site.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Apr 22, 12 9:01 AM
Im so taken back by all these's comments....Have some compassion for my son....thank you to the Riverhead ambulance ...for making the right decision on medevac-ing my son Joseph....
By Nina64 (2), flanders on Apr 19, 12 10:25 PM
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Some people are just stupid by what they comment on. A young kid laying on the ground in severe pain after a motorcycle accident is a reason to medivac to a trauma ward. Why is this even a debate? Every second counts in an accident like this. Last year at this time, same intersection a motorcycle accident claimed the life of another man. I guess the emt's know how many internal injuries could be possible but not visable at the scene. Bottom line
this kid comes from a nice hardworking family ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Apr 21, 12 8:43 AM
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My friends almost all rode motorcycles.So many and their girlfriends suffered horrible injuries.Broken backs,head injuries etc. When my son came of age he wanted a bike. I tried to argue against it to no avail.He had a ball on his bike until he broke his collarbone and missed 8 weeks work. No more motorcycle for him.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Apr 21, 12 10:22 PM
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Dear Lord,
Watch over me and my family of motorcycles as we go into the streets. Protect us from the four wheeled demons. Make us seen so we will not have our life taken by someone not paying attention. Keep us from harm. Let it be known, "we are coming". Watch over us as we wheelie down the streets and highways. Forgive us for the laws that we break for it is only out fun that we do so and not to harm anyone. Please protect the police and highway patrol in their pursuit to uphold the law. Give ...more
By Nina64 (2), flanders on Apr 22, 12 4:11 PM