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Jul 12, 2016 3:51 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Board To Discuss Proposed Tuckahoe Road Rerouting Idea At August Work Session

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman gives date for public discussion on Tuckahoe Road at work session.
Jul 13, 2016 10:19 AM

Members of the public will be allowed to air their concerns about a plan to block off and reroute a portion of Tuckahoe Road in Shinnecock Hills at the Southampton Town Board work session scheduled for Thursday, August 4.

Board members are scheduled to give a formal presentation on the proposal, which is being pitched by the board of the Shinnecock Hills Golf Club, before opening the floor to residents.

Both proponents and critics of the proposal are encouraged to attend the meeting, the date of which was announced during last week’s work session by Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman. The meeting is tentatively scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. but does not yet have a location.

After an informal meeting with members of the Tuckahoe Citizens Advisory Committee earlier this month, Mr. Schneiderman said he realizes that the potential loss of notable landscape—the stretch of road that would be closed to the public runs through the 259-acre private club and north of County Road 39—is troubling to many residents.

“Obviously, the vista is really important to people,” he said. “It’s beautiful. People want access to that vista one way or another.”

Shinnecock Hills Golf Club officials first approached the supervisor in June, asking that the town reroute the approximately quarter-mile stretch of Tuckahoe Road that bisects the golf course so that it instead connects to nearby St. Andrews Road. In addition, the project would involve extending St. Andrews Road further west to the light at Tuckahoe Road and County Road 39, specifically for people who want to make left turns onto St. Andrews from County Road 39, and vice-versa. The current setup, club members have argued, endangers golfers.

“They’re concerned, as that road—which was once a very quiet road—sees a tremendous volume of traffic,” Mr. Schneiderman said at last week’s work session. “They’re not the only ones. There are back roads all throughout the town which have become bypasses.”

He added that he would be willing to entertain such a proposal from the country club only if it includes “significant community benefits,” including those that could help the financially challenged Tuckahoe School District and other road improvement projects in the municipality. Club representatives are expected to present a complete, detailed proposal in the next month, one that would include potential benefits that include more than installing the proposed bypass, that would include benefits for the community other than just moving the road.

“At the end of the day, we’ll have to decide whether it makes sense for the community or not,” Mr. Schneiderman said. “Whether it’s a good thing or bad thing.”

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It would be nice if some of these houses were allotted for affordable/workforce housing since there is such a DIRE need.
By cjdinkelmeyer (3), Riverhead on Jul 12, 16 4:40 PM
A joker has joined the discussions. She's posting this same comment no matter what the story. Give it up now.
By HamptonDad (236), Hampton Bays on Jul 13, 16 7:26 AM
Tuckahoe School district needs a better tax base. The POOR golf clubs [4] got a reduction of taxes when anna th was here. That is why they have a financial problem.
Safety is a BS way of making it totally private. Erecting a illegal berm of land clearing debris isn't helping there image. Matt Lauer couldn't put in a trees to shield his property, why does shinnecock???
Guess having Bberg a member pulls weight in
the courts. His house is totally hidden also, guess he doesn't like ...more
By knitter (1941), Southampton on Jul 12, 16 4:48 PM
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On a Thursday, @ 10 AM?

[expletive deleted] you.
Jul 12, 16 6:26 PM appended by Mr. Z
And if this goes through, that sets a precedent. What's next? National Golf Links gets to turn Shrubland Road into a pair of dead end cul de sacs?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 12, 16 6:26 PM
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"It would be nice if some of these houses were allotted for affordable/workforce housing since there is such a DIRE need."

WTF? CJ--reading comprehension problem, eh? What houses?
By fire11 (276), east hampton on Jul 12, 16 6:56 PM
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ABSOFOOKINLUTELY OBSCENE!!! We are not for sale Jay, not so sure about you though!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jul 12, 16 7:43 PM
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Is Sh GC keeping the rt27 access to their indystrial maintenance facility ?? How will all their trucks get around.. not by driving continuously ovet the course??
I bet they even inten to keep that road somewhat in use
By dave h (193), calverton on Jul 12, 16 8:03 PM
Chatter from the inside, membership thinks they already have this wrapped up
By dave h (193), calverton on Jul 12, 16 8:30 PM
The only thing wrapped up is them, in their bubble.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Jul 17, 16 3:01 PM
Do you really think the highway superintendent is signing off on this? Jay stop wasting everyone's time, this is a dead issue.
By jeffscan (19), sh on Jul 12, 16 8:48 PM
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they want the hill for themselves and now a lot of going west traffic runs thru
By BrianWilliams (87), on Jul 12, 16 8:48 PM
a freaking joke don't believe any of this. Build a pedestrian bridge 100k problem solved
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Jul 12, 16 9:06 PM
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DH -- the road will still be there FOR THEM
By fire11 (276), east hampton on Jul 12, 16 10:31 PM
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What is the legal procedure for this to happen? Public hearings, vote by the Board? Super majority? This is a blatant attempt, seemingly supported by the Supervisor to sell off a public asset, including a spectacular view to some wealthy folks who have offered to re route the road in a fashion suspiciously consistent with the Supervisor's ill conceived traffic mitigation scheme. Something stinks here.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jul 13, 16 6:16 AM
Something stinks very much, yes.
I wonder if Highway has to be ok with this? God Bless Alex in our time of need!
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Jul 13, 16 7:41 AM
Agree w bigfresh.. federal government might need to check this situation out
By dave h (193), calverton on Jul 13, 16 7:04 AM
Remember the scene near the end of "The Godfather" in which the Don warns Michael that the capo proposing a meeting with their adversaries is their betrayer.

Life imitates art.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Jul 13, 16 8:27 AM
Remember that part in a book much older than any movie? There was a betrayer in there, too, who's name also started with a "J," come to think of it.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Jul 13, 16 8:48 AM
What a crock! That road is needed in the OFF season! There is already little enough access to Tuckahoe. This is not about the view!
By InnerBay (72), Southampton on Jul 13, 16 9:00 AM
It's all about the money-money-money...

Money money moneee, mon-ey.

They'll be re routing the traffic off the course to be problem of others. Closing tuckahoe rd is not the solution. ALL the roads leading West from 3-7pm are congested. It's unfair for the officials to designate this specific strip of road as dangerous as opposed to all the others which accident logs can actually prove.
Look at the intersection of north-sea Mecox & north sea road for one.
And all the ...more
Jul 14, 16 7:08 AM appended by foodwhiner
*DO the job. :) Don't mobile post before coffee.
By foodwhiner (148), Southampton on Jul 14, 16 7:08 AM
If we really want to make our voices heard we should organize as a group. Get the word out with ads, word of mouth to neighbors, churches, work places. Possibly get petitions signed outside of Stop n Shop, CVS, Rite Aid etc. and work with the Tuckahoe advisory committee. Contact school board and get as many people as possible to attend this meeting and recommend an evening session as well so all citizens can be heard if we really want to stop it we have to do something about it
By photo friend (31), southampton on Jul 14, 16 3:30 PM
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Sell the road to the highest bidder at least.. be fair .. give all the hero development companies a chance to buy it ... a sineous stretch of condos wouldn't be a danger to the new kiddie course
By dave h (193), calverton on Jul 14, 16 9:31 PM
Divert the traffic to the surrounding homes, developments, neighborhoods & schools .. that doesnt sound safer to anyone
By dave h (193), calverton on Jul 15, 16 7:19 AM
Since the Club has 5 million to bribe the Town perhaps after they are sent packing they can spend those funds on so tunnels or bridges to keep their members safe from the unwashed masses
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jul 15, 16 11:41 AM
If the Open doesn't happen, can't be done. They won't have the money. Maybe b berg will give them a loan???
By knitter (1941), Southampton on Jul 15, 16 1:00 PM
“Obviously, the vista is really important to people,” he said(Schniederman). “It’s beautiful..."
....but the "beautiful" people sipping Mint Julips on the veranda of the east porch at the clubhouse cant bear to have commoners driving so irritably close.

the supervisor goes on to say..."People want access to that vista one way or another.”

that's Code for we will let the commoners' see it from afar!
By AnnaAdrag (5), Water Mill on Jul 17, 16 7:52 AM
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So here is a fun fact! Mikey Bloomberg who started this whole mess, has a house on Whites Lane. and about ten feet from his personal putting green is a bunch of land owned by who? Well boys and girls its owned by you, the people of the Town of Southampton. About a year ago after Mike bought the property the public land was posted with hand written NO TRESPASSING SIGNS.. This was soon followed by official NY State DEC " Restricted area NO Hunting signs. I cant imagine how that came to be because ...more
By AnnaAdrag (5), Water Mill on Jul 17, 16 8:16 AM
Its a lime tick breeding ground .. threatens all of us .. they should be fined
By dave h (193), calverton on Jul 17, 16 4:47 PM
The Tuckahoe School District does not own Tuckahoe Road?

The people of the Town of Southampton from Eastport to the Wainscot border own this Road!!!! Apples and oranges, one has nothing to do with the other. You cant bribe the school district to give up something they don't own.
By AnnaAdrag (5), Water Mill on Jul 18, 16 12:10 PM
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"Just say no to Bloomberg's dough!
"No sellout in Tuckahoe!"
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 18, 16 10:14 PM
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Does anyone know the location of this "public" meeting?
By TheTurtle (143), Southampton on Aug 1, 16 5:13 PM
REMINDER: August 4th is day after tomorrow.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Aug 2, 16 9:40 PM