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Oct 13, 2011 1:22 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Developers Ready To Submit Application For Canoe Place Inn Project

Oct 19, 2011 12:48 PM

After months of public pleas to save the Canoe Place Inn, advocates were one step closer to seeing their dream take shape as developers confirmed this week that they are days away from submitting a formal planned development district application to Southampton Town, a move that will pave the way for the long-awaited refurbishment of the Hampton Bays landmark.

Developer Gregg Rechler, who, with his cousin Mitchell Rechler, principals in L Squared LLC, are behind a proposal that calls for salvaging the Canoe Place Inn (CPI), an iconic structure in Hampton Bays that residents have been clamoring to restore, said this week that he hopes to submit the formal PDD application to the town either this week or next.

“It’s a very detailed application,” Mr. Rechler said, adding that after the application is submitted, a full environmental review will take place, following the rules of the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act.

After the environmental review is complete, the goal is to move forward with the rehab of the CPI and the construction of 40 townhouses on the east side of the Shinnecock Canal as soon as possible. “We’re working hard to move this forward,” Gregg Rechler said.

The PDD, which has undergone a long public hearing process, with residents lending their voices as to how they’d like to see the site restored, calls for a refurbished CPI, which will serve as a catering and meeting hall, with a 20-room bed and breakfast and a tap room. In addition, the plan calls for the construction of 40 townhouses and 20 boat slips overlooking the Shinnecock Canal, on property that is also owned by the Rechlers.

A planned development district allows for more density than would normally be allowed as of right, in exchange for a community benefit. Community benefits in the Rechlers’ proposed PDD include: the renovation of CPI; dedication of funds toward open space acquisition in Hampton Bays; a guarantee that the CPI would not be used for any other purpose in the future, including a nightclub; and public access to the canal waterfront.

Mr. Rechler also noted this week that someone has swiped a section of copper roofing from the CPI. “Copper from a small area of the roof, by the scalloped portion, was stolen,” he said, noting that he has filed a police report about the theft.

Hampton Bays resident Richard Casabianca, who has long voiced his ardent support of saving the CPI, said he first noticed the section of roof missing on October 2 when he was out for a morning drive to get coffee and a newspaper. “I decided to drive by the inn and noticed something was off,” he said. “And, indeed, something was off.”

Mr. Casabianca said it took him a moment to figure out what was amiss, but when he did, he realized it was the copper section of the roof. “I couldn’t believe my eyes,” he said. To be certain, Mr. Casabianca drove around again, parked by the inn, and took a closer look.

“Sure enough, it was gone,” he said. “It was copper, and a nice shade of green after being out in the weather for years. It’s too bad.”

The theft of copper is not unprecedented in the town, Mr. Casabianca and other residents agreed. “It’s an unfortunate sign of the times considering the high prices that scrap metal is bringing,” he said.

When she learned about the stolen copper, Susan Von Freddi, the president of the Hampton Bays Beautification Association, was shocked. “It’s horrible,” she said.

Mr. Casabianca noted that maintenance workers have installed asphalt roofing to protect the exposed sheathing and plywood until the renovation of the inn commences. Mr. Rechler added that new copper 
roofing will most likely be added as part of the upcoming renovations.

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Somehow, I don't think it's just the "high prices that scrap metal is bringing..." .
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 13, 11 5:18 PM
It will be a shame to see the restaraunts torn down for condos. North road is part of the kitchiness of the hamptons. I can only visualize a long wall of condos. Way to suburban and out of character for the area. As usual the only ones that will benefit are the developers.

How many locals will be hired to build the condos?? It would really be a boon if the Rechlers used Local excavators, masons, framers, plumbers, electricians insulators, sheetrockers etc. We have all the trades here in ...more
By North Sea Citizen (568), North Sea on Oct 14, 11 6:21 AM
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Short term job solution.

No sustainability, except for the people who maintain it at a pittance of a wage.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 14, 11 11:08 PM
40 townhomes on top of the shinnecock canal. Sickening.
By ADAMSG (53), EAST QUOGUE on Oct 14, 11 7:58 AM
The Rechler donated over $38,000 to Levy's campaign. Wonder how much they donated to ATH and others on the Town Board?
By Woohampton (35), Westhampton Beach on Oct 14, 11 3:21 PM
Um...residents have actually been clamoring to have the dump razed.
By SHPredatorDept (72), Southampton on Oct 14, 11 3:47 PM
It is a dilapidated eyesore. It is a rotting heap. It's not a landmark; it's a blightmark. It brings down the value of property in the entire neighborhood. I need a shower every time I drive by due to all the dust from the dirt parking lot. I'm concerned also that homeless people set up camp down the dirt road behind the place. It is time to do the right thing and demolish this levitating scrapheap.
By SHPredatorDept (72), Southampton on Oct 14, 11 4:04 PM
A shining example of the mentality that fiscal value, exceeds historical value in this "society".
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 14, 11 11:09 PM
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I think it would be more accurate to say that aesthetic appeal should rectify historical neglect, especially when the private sector is actually funding the improvement.
By SHPredatorDept (72), Southampton on Oct 15, 11 6:31 PM
Not really.

Not this time. Or, any other when historical restoration is plausible.

For reference, leaving "one wall", has got to be the most ludicrous, hollow tree of a resolution this town has ever allowed.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 17, 11 6:52 PM
I am confused by the "one wall" reference. Where is this?
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 11 2:53 PM
Many structures in the village of Southampton were "remodeled" under the auspices of leaving only a single exterior wall of the historic structure standing.

In other words, gut the real old growth, rough sawn 2x4, and build something modern that kinda' looks like what was there.

Even if it's peg and timber, there's enough money not to care...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 26, 11 7:52 PM
Care to enlighten us on what "historical" value this building presents? Or are we now up to 2376 "shining examples" of why you have no idea what your talking about.
By Bama-Slama (41), Hampton bays on Oct 15, 11 9:20 AM
Well, if you knew your History, as it seems Phil does below, you'd "get it'.

You really do have an impressive mental capacity.

For what, I have no idea...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 17, 11 6:43 PM
The community needs something like this project. Perhaps the condos will be an eye sore, but more of an eyesore than the canal already is? The Canoe Place Inn is in fact historical, no matter how much one says it isn't. It was one of the first prominent businesses in Hampton Bays and to see it in such shambles is a terrible shame. Perhaps the town should stop catering to the ridiculous night life of the summer and do something like this rehab project. Give the town a sense of it's pride back, since, ...more
By SpencerC1234 (1), Hampton Bays on Oct 16, 11 3:10 PM
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"Perhaps the town should stop catering to the ridiculous night life of the summer..."

You've got to be kidding. The Town has succeeded in putting all but one or two nightlife places out of business. The Town also required Neptune, in an historical building, to eliminate the most historically significant part of the building. There was a lively summer business in Hampton Bays at one time, longer than 22 years ago. Now there are empty buildings year round. The summer businesses brought ...more
By VOS (1241), WHB on Oct 16, 11 5:48 PM
Put the condos at the Canoe Place Inn please. I can't believe you would want the canal to be residentially privatized with condos.
You have been here for 22 years? I have been here for 50 and this town keeps taking away what made it a desirable place to live. The canal property was zoned waterfront resort business, meaning for business that the public can enjoy on the water. Once its gone it will be gone forever. Its a crying shame that this town board can take zoning laws and change them to ...more
By ADAMSG (53), EAST QUOGUE on Oct 17, 11 8:04 AM
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Outside labor has always been cheaper, just look at the trade parade from up island each day. Clearly price is why they are hired. We certainly have the skills and talent locally, but their prices are sky high and remain so even when work is scarce. It's a pity as I know construction related firms have been letting people go lately.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Oct 16, 11 3:52 PM
More likely they can't afford to have a residence east of the canal.

Maybe the local cost of living has something to do with the labor rates?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 20, 11 7:15 PM
I find it really amazing how so many people consider Canoe Place Inn this "iconic" historical fixture of Hampton Bays. If so many people in Hampton Bays feel this way then I suggest that they ALL get their checkbooks out and write checks to save THEIR beloved CPI building. NO??? Figures...everyone has a big mouth and opinion when IT IS NOT EVEN their property or money.Well once again to all the naysayers "Put you money where your mouth is." No they rather have a summer nightclub that causes noise ...more
By maryskitchen (5), Southampton on Oct 18, 11 11:01 PM
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Well, it will no longer be a nightclub once improved.

It will be a catering hall.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 20, 11 7:13 PM
I have been in the food business since I was 10...inn, store, catering, etc....The cost of renovating that building so it could be a presentable catering hall will be astronomical! Not to mention although it is located by the channel it is a tough sell when there are so many more places that are much more visually appealing to have an event..i.e. the multitude of vineyards, country clubs, etc...The financial return would take years to make back....they wouldn't see a profit for at the very least ...more
By maryskitchen (5), Southampton on Oct 22, 11 10:26 PM
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That's called an "investment".

Most don't have an overnight return. Unless, you know someone...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 23, 11 2:19 AM
Im just wondering what happens to Tiderunners and North 1? Also is White water outfitters also on the condo property. If so is that 3 businesses that are gone. Also, who is going to run the CPI. The rechler's or the town?
By captnrose (6), Hampton Bays on Oct 21, 11 11:52 AM
Why would the town run a private business?
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Oct 26, 11 2:52 PM
Going back up to the thread about the light house. All that information is in the Hampton bays Library. I do know this much; it was not the locals who approved of the demolotion. It was the Government. They said with the automation of light houses, and other technologies; That light house was not needed. The locals, one in particular Dr. Emma Bellows, who was a much regarded local who grew up to become was a doctor, led a protest for many monthhs. Many people cried when it was brought down. ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Oct 24, 11 9:35 PM
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Sounds like the lighthouse thing has bi partisan local interest for sure, anyone up for starting a restoration effort maybe a committee that can meet once a month for starters. It would mean that we would all have to meet face to face for a common goal. wow Phil and I sitting at the same table in the dinner... lol
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 25, 11 2:19 AM
So, when is the Golden Anniversary?

Usually only people married that long bicker so well...

Oct 25, 11 4:07 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. I'm in.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 25, 11 4:07 PM
Sorry I missed it...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Oct 25, 11 10:38 PM
ok ok , so maybe we need to have a cup of coffee about this, and phil... please are you serious I have never been violent with you its just you have a way of getting on my nerves. We have very different view's on life maybe we should start with a conversation about it all and see if we can agree on some things. In any event I am not a violent guy.
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 26, 11 8:28 PM
Maybe I am just I guy who is after your money....lol

My wife and I combined make less than $10,000/year,own our home,have 2 kids and, though we're struggling,managing to pay our way. I have no sympathy ...more for people who make twice as much as me and appear to mismanage their finances ad blame everyone else.
By philathome (1749), Southampton on Aug 16, 11 9:35 PM
By joe hampton (3461), south hampton on Oct 27, 11 5:20 PM
Actually I am not sure if Montauk would think it a threat. There are many lighthouse enthusiasts and i believe the thought is the more in the area the more likelihood that visitors would want to see them all. There are lighthouse "challenges" in many areas and having more than 3 in the area (4) would probably be better for all. Interesting thought that seems to arise every few years.
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 11 3:47 PM
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Oct 29, 11 7:46 AM