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Jun 13, 2012 1:19 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Hampton Bays Students Urge School Board To Keep Spanish Teacher

Jun 13, 2012 1:53 PM

More than 25 high school students and parents attended Tuesday night’s Hampton Bays Board of Education meeting to protest what they said is the forced resignation of Lilly Salcedo, a Spanish language teacher at the high school. They held signs that read, “Save Salcedo,” and addressed the board at the end of the meeting.

Ms. Salcedo, who teaches Spanish 1, 2 and 3 and a separate course for native Spanish speakers, has worked at the high school for the past year, students said. She also served as the varsity women’s soccer coach this past year.

Ms. Salcedo confirmed on Wednesday morning, via email, that district administrators have asked her to resign, but she could not yet comment on their reasons for doing so.

Board of Education members did not discuss her pending termination on Tuesday night, and they did not offer responses to concerns raised by students and parents. Members thanked the students and parents for sharing their thoughts.

On Wednesday, Hampton Bays Schools Superintendent Lars Clemenson said he would not confirm or deny if Ms. Salcedo has been asked to resign.

“I felt the students were very professional and they conveyed their points clearly and passionately, and I’m glad that the board made a point to hear everybody that wanted to be heard,” Mr. Clemensen said.

The students circulated a petition during the school day on Monday, calling on the administration to allow Ms. Salcedo to continue teaching at the school, and obtained about 70 signatures. The students also created a Facebook group titled, “Operation Save Salcedo.”

“She taught us how to stand up for each other and so much more,” said high school junior Cristal Martinez through tears while addressing the board. “She taught us how to dream big and fight for each other, and now we’re fighting for her.”

Benny Torres, whose daughter, Alexa Torres, is a junior at the high school, asked the board for the percentage of Hispanic faculty members in the district. He said he feared that the Hispanic population is not fairly represented in the faculty, and that students would be losing a native Spanish-speaker if Ms. Salcedo leaves. Mr. Clemensen said he would get him numbers at a later date.

“We need good role models, and we need good Latina role models, which, from what I can understand, we don’t have,” Mr. Torres said.

Student Lexi Radziul, a member of the varsity soccer team, said she had worked with Ms. Salcedo to develop a summer soccer camp, and she is now left wondering about the future of the team and the women’s soccer program. “We’re questioning if we’re going to have a coach, if we’re going to have a Spanish teacher,” Ms. Radziul said. “We just want answers as a team and as a school.”

Losmi Cruz, another junior, said Ms. Salcedo supported her when others did not.

“Sometimes, we can be really bad students and a teacher can just quit on us,” she said. “You might not see it that way, but teachers do quit on us at times. But not Mrs. Salcedo. Mrs. Salcedo encourages us to do the best we can and I would hate to see her leave.”

In other news, the board approved a $31,000 contract with Pioneer Construction, the lowest bidder for a project that will convert a former technology shop at the high school into two pre-K classrooms. Previously, the board approved the implementation of a pre-K program that will allow high school students who are considering a career in early childhood education to work with the children and graduate with a Child Development Associate’s License.

“It’s really a win-win for us,” Mr. Clemensen said of the initiative.

Additionally, Mr. Clemensen officially resigned from his position as Hampton Bays Middle School principal to assume his post as superintendent, officially putting an end to his three-year probationary period.

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Concerned with this disturbing trend. Two minority instructors asked to leave HB school district last year. Two more leaving this year. Never going to address the needs of the community this way. There are a lot of other teachers doing far less in the district that needs to go.
By Julie M. (1), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 12 3:27 PM
"There are a lot of other teachers doing far less in the district that needs to go."
I agree, but the union is so strong that it gives the less effective teachers impunity from job performance issues. It's alot easier to fire those who aren't protected by the union, ie the teachers/aides without tenure. Keep voting for those who help the unions get stronger and this practice is what you'll see increasingly in every workplace.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Jun 13, 12 6:32 PM
Yeah, layoffs should be reserved for white teachers.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jun 13, 12 7:27 PM
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Do you know what is really disturbing for the Hampton Bays district? The fact that the district is spending millions to teach non English speaking students at the expense of english speaking ones. It is the law of this country to speak, english, write english, and know American history to be a citizen. It's time our Hispanic guests to this country learn our language not us learn theirs. The taxpayers need to speak up in Hampton Bays before they can't afford the school taxes. What does it mean address ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Jun 13, 12 6:14 PM
Your demands reek of bigotry and hatred. Why on earth should the 12 million or so illegal immigrants be forced to follow US law?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Jun 13, 12 7:29 PM
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I could be wrong but I'm thinking the class offered to students who speak english as a second language, is to teach them how to speak English. I graduated from Southampton High School, when I was in school there were maybe two or three no English speakers, and they worked with the Spanish teacher to learn how to speak English. Soooo if thes kids are here legally, and they need to learn English why not provide a class that will help them. You'd be surprised how fast they pic it up, they are usually ...more
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Jun 14, 12 8:28 AM
"It's time our Hispanic guests to this country learn our language not us learn theirs."

The United States has no official language. Go tell the Puerto Ricans in San Juan to stop speaking Spanish because they live in America. What an ignoramus.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 12 10:34 AM
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Is there a law on the books regarding the language spoken in this country?
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Jun 14, 12 3:00 PM
There was a referendum years ago to make English the "official" language of the United States. It failed to pass, much to my chagrin when I learned that part of history.

That being said, the failure of that legislation DOES NOT change the fact that speaking English IS a requirement of naturalization.

Go to a Latin American country, and let me know if they tolerate a lack of communication skills in their native tongue.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 12 4:27 PM
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How are you here legally and can't speak English- can someone explain how that happens?
By bayarea (46), hampton bays on Jun 15, 12 10:02 AM
In reply to your comment ,may I remind you that the "Hispanic guest" are the only true inhabitants of the Americas. Have you forgotten Columbus and the colonization process?? These Hispanic guest are descendants of the indigenous people .Did your ancestors learn the dialect of the indigenous when they invaded their lands???
By sam25 (1), huntington on Jun 15, 12 7:08 PM
Really? I didn't realize that the Indians such as the Cherokee, Crow, Apache, Blackfoot, Shinnecock, Montaukett and all other North American tribes weren't true inhabitants of the Americas.

Do you know that roughly 30% of White (evil) Americans also have Native blood? Myself included.

Think about this one Ms. Amateur Anthropologist how do you think the "Hispanic Guests" would've been received by the Native or indigenous tribes in North America? I'll bet you it wouldn't have been ...more
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jun 17, 12 12:21 AM
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Your facts are incorrect.. Please show us where is the district is spending millions of dollars to teach non English speaking students.
What law(s) are you referring to about speaking and writing English? Might be a surprise to you and others, but,Hispanics also pay taxes either directly or directly into the district. They also support and purchase from Many businesses, which they pay taxes. Hispanics do not have Tax exempt card. Lastly, if you live in a community you must address the needs ...more
By boricuaben (2), Hampton Bays on Jun 21, 12 4:16 PM
Do you know that you can find atrocities in almost every culture and many times they used the religion mantra or economic or origin supremessy. How can you discover something that was present already. It was discovered for an Empire, the original habitants were already here. The lands and people were raped and pilloried, which is why whites owned everything via bullets and outright stealing, they did it to the Indians everywhere. The same was done in California, where they chased out the Mexicans..Going ...more
By boricuaben (2), Hampton Bays on Jun 21, 12 4:56 PM
Reality first, You are a first class idiot. EVERYONE living in this country (or those living in another country) should follow the laws of the land. How can anyone say and or believe your posts after reading that?
Oh wait maybe you ment that just to bait someone like me? Nah,
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Jun 13, 12 8:09 PM
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maybe that was sarcastic ?
By Avatar (15), Westhampton Beach on Jun 14, 12 7:01 AM
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Lol Maybe schools should teach understanding the art of sarcasm.....
By squeaky (291), hampton bays on Jun 14, 12 7:13 AM
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By G_J_V_Overbeck (24), Westhampton Beach on Jun 14, 12 9:43 AM
After reading all these comments, its evident that there is racism and discrimination in this small town. I did some investigating and found out the that in the past 3 years, 1 black teacher was fired, 4 Hispanics were fired and there is no Hispanics or Blacks working in the ENTIRE district. The population of Hispanics in Hampton Bays is 78% and the rest is white, virtually no blacks. Now you tell me why this is happening in this day in age. The sad part is the ones that are truly suffering ...more
By jenr5229 (1), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 12 10:19 AM
78% no wonder were all broke,
By G_J_V_Overbeck (24), Westhampton Beach on Jun 14, 12 1:43 PM
"in the past 3 years, 1 black teacher was fired, 4 Hispanics were fired"

There were also white teachers fired. Just because you'd like to prove a point doesnt mean you should omit the facts.
By AlwaysLocal (292), southampton on Jun 14, 12 2:22 PM
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Overbeck, you don't like the new demographics of Hampton Bays - get used to it or move.
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Jun 14, 12 3:51 PM
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"De facto" segregation?

Sort of like "de pecuniae" segregation?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 14, 12 4:29 PM
I guess the big unanswered question is....Why was she asked to resign? Sure the kids thinks she's great, but I'm thinking that there had to be a reason they wanted her out and its not just because she's latina. From and HR perspective...when they give you the option of resigning, its to save yourself some trouble, plus she's not commenting so I'm thinking that she is not in a good position on this. If she resigns she walks away with no damage and she can pursue other employment opportunities without ...more
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Jun 14, 12 3:09 PM
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Seeing that probably over 60% of the incoming Pre-K class will be of Latino descent...and knowing that HB homes will always be forced to pay through taxes...whether you like it or not...we will all need to find a way to get EXCELLENT bi-lingual teachers or the quality of our children's education will suffer. Schools are a business...they will accept anyone through the doors if it adds to the bottom line...green$$.
By Alexis45 (1), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 12 4:17 PM
Some people posting here might be surprised to find out that quite a few children of Latino descent in our schools have parents who are legal American citizens and, in fact, who actually may be second or third generation descendants of immigrants. I learned that from an east end school district superintendent over ten years ago who, wanting to set me straight when I questioned the numbers of them in our schools, told me he even knew some Latino parents in his district from when they had been students ...more
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Jun 15, 12 10:48 AM
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Golenrule, you are making way too much sense for the bigoted ignoramuses who frequent these boards.
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Jun 15, 12 11:04 AM
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Goldenrod you are so well informed...be careful they will bash you for stating a fact that some one sided blinded ignorants of our laws will try to twist around. I know personally many people from all backgrounds that came from overseas and from latin american countries that own multiple business and pay their taxes, they have children and they look latino but they are Americans, nevertheless they speak and write English, Spanish and they have an accent, unfortunally for many being Bi-lingual and ...more
By YXZ (32), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 12 11:23 AM
Sorry for my typo's I meant reality and because
By YXZ (32), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 12 11:27 AM
"Many pay income taxes and in fact they all pay local school taxes through the rent on their houses, if they do not already own a home, as many do"

Please, the taxes on a 2 or 3 bedroom house with 6-8 chidren living in it, don't even come close to covering the costs of their schooling.
I know this isn't every home with a latino family in it, but it's they case in far too many. Get'em Betts!
Jun 17, 12 12:30 AM appended by ICE
*doesn't
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jun 17, 12 12:30 AM
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I also fine the term "them" to be highly offensive and only shows the igorance of the author. The President's message this morning says that illegals are welcomed in the United States.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jun 15, 12 1:08 PM
Obama administration won't seek deportation of young illegal immigrants
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jun 15, 12 1:28 PM
be quiet everyone - HB is a nice school without their principal who harassed few teachers in the district and this with the agreement of the superintendent and unions - I witnessed what he did to several new teachers and it was ugly -teachers could not do anything against him - we talk about the immigrants- you have in your community someone who think he s a good leader but he s not in reality and in fact he s fooling everyone. Someone ought to tell him. He s not doing your kids or the whole community ...more
By flatland (3), sagharbor on Jun 15, 12 2:11 PM
i have had teachers in this school district that were absolutely awesome and they had lost their job cause a teacher came back from leave. Why does it always come down to ethnicity? A good role model is a good role model. Its unfortunate that the teacher has to leave but for whatever reason she was asked to leave it was best for the students.

and flatland it has nothing to do with the principal and going through 4 if not more principals in my five years there... from a student perspective ...more
By Sour09 (18), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 12 5:57 PM
stabilize in which respect? we don't have to agree anyway and frankly your student perspective doesn't count - it is more employe perspective that I'm talking about and hopefully you'll get the same treatment some day when you start working with someone like him. Then we'll talk...He's a clown in a cheap suit and his micro managing has people wander if he's OK up there. I'm sure that teacher is a good (too good for that school maybe) before you make childish comment please check your sources and ...more
By flatland (3), sagharbor on Jun 15, 12 10:02 PM
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First, the "like" was hit by accident
Second, who do you think you are to tell this person that their "perspective doesn't count"? You're entitled to your opinion, your avarice, and even your bitterness but we're not turning the clocks back to the time when children should be seen and not heard. Your message seems to come from someone working within the school system; if that's the case you should consider a career change with your attitude.
By VOS (1241), WHB on Jun 16, 12 11:21 PM
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avarice, bitterness whatever you call it I'm fine and no I won't change my career just because of you.I'm excellent in everything I do..and people like you are just another bunch of followers.... go back to sleep and don't bother me with your stupid comment
By flatland (3), sagharbor on Jun 17, 12 11:52 AM
Do you really think kids should be making any type of policy decisions in a public school? One reason our public school system is in such a mess is because we let our kids talk back and disrespect adults. The children in our schools need to be educated, and work hard in their studies. They will have plenty of time to give their opinion in their adult lives. I see plenty of cases where parents let their kids talk back and argue their ways out of things. It's a disaster to let your kids rule your ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Jun 17, 12 10:57 AM
Hampton Bays is just overrun with illegals. Good luck taxpayers. We helped create this disaster.
By Lets go mets (377), Southampton on Jun 17, 12 1:26 PM
The school had very good reason to ask Salcedo to leave and she seems to agree.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jun 17, 12 2:37 PM
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By G_J_V_Overbeck (24), Westhampton Beach on Jun 18, 12 7:30 AM
Dont treat me as if im a child. Im not. If you do work within the school system you remember how the students misbehaved and would treat the teachers before he was there. It was absolutely unacceptable. The substitute teachers had it the worst. I am still embarrassed to this day that the kids within that school system were not fully accountable for their actions. He makes them accountable. If the principal is that bad as a co-worker than maybe that teacher is best going to a different school but ...more
By Sour09 (18), Hampton Bays on Jun 18, 12 2:47 PM
No body really cares,about this teacher,asta la pizza teach.
By G_J_V_Overbeck (24), Westhampton Beach on Jun 22, 12 10:04 PM
I am Spanish and I vote Republican. I came here illegally in 1988 ( not proud of that but I wanted a better life) I worked hard, learned the language, eventually started my own business, I always payed taxes, I was lucky enough to become a citizen before 9-11 screwed up the chances for a person to earn acceptance.
I would never vote for the other party, they are a party of dependency. The truth is other minorities in this country hate us! so do the unions . Latinos are hard working Cristian ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 22, 12 10:23 PM
you lost me at I came here illegally in 1988. Turn yourself in.
Jun 23, 12 6:33 AM appended by Samuel Walsh
full disclosure. My family came here legally. Learned the pledge and national anthem, studied the language endlessly. Assimilated. I also don't rob banks, steal or cross a double line.
By Samuel Walsh (17), Southampton on Jun 23, 12 6:33 AM
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Just give the illegals a chance, maybe some sort of sponsored work program let them prove how much they love this country. they do not ask for much in return. I know the cost at the emergency room is bad for everyone who pays taxes. but we really do not abuse the system. We only go if we are hurt working at jobs no one else wants. All and all undocumented workers just want to work , no crazy pensions , no prevailing wage,no double over time ,no sick days, 95 % just want a chance to earn money and ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (2065), southampton on Jun 22, 12 10:24 PM
Why does Hampton Bays need a Spanish teacher? Isn't that the native language there?
By bird (829), Southampton on Jun 23, 12 1:29 AM
How about that Motel that Code Inforcement went into.They found 80 people including 40 Schoolchildren. The Motel pays 1,500 in taxes. Who pays the School taxes for those 40 kids?Look in the mirror
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jun 23, 12 6:05 AM
How about it you big dope? You've been had. You have let those people in the country by pulling the lever for the very people who allowed it to happen. You keep fighting for Tim Bishop and then complaining about high taxes and illegal immigration. Its called Stockholm Syndrome, with a side order of useful idiot.
By Samuel Walsh (17), Southampton on Jun 23, 12 6:31 AM
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The only part of illegal immigration is the illegal part. We should legalize all immigration, have everyone work on the books and pay into our system.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jun 23, 12 9:48 AM