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Dec 21, 2017 12:03 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Board Approves Canoe Place Inn PDD Extension

Councilman John Bouvier, Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman, and Councilwoman Christine Scalera, from left, at Thursday's Southampton Town Board meeting. AMANDA BERNOCCO
Jan 2, 2018 2:51 PM

The Southampton Town Board has extended the special zoning granted for the Canoe Place Inn redevelopment project in Hampton Bays for another two years.

The extension of the zone change—known as a planned development district, or PDD—that was unanimously approved on December 21 is expected to help clear the path for previously approved redevelopment along both banks of the Shinnecock Canal.

R Squared Development LLC, a division of Rechler Equity Partners LLC—the developer behind the project—plans to build 37 townhouses on the eastern side of the canal and restore the old Canoe Place Inn on the western side, creating a new 25-room inn. Additionally, the developer plans to build a 1,900-square-foot clubhouse and a 300-seat catering hall on the 5.6-acre property on the west side of the canal.

The PDD for the Canoe Place Inn was approved by the Town Board in January 2015, and set to expire on January 21, 2018, three years after its adoption. The law enacting the special zoning notes that one of its requirements is that the developer must begin “substantial building” before the law expires.

Prior to approving the extension at last month’s meeting, several members of the Town Board noted that the developers have “acted in good faith” on the original PDD, even though significant work has not yet started on either property.

“I think it’s time to allow this investment in Hampton Bays,” Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman said.

Councilwoman Julie Lofstad added to that sentiment. “I believe they have, in good faith, moved forward with the project,” she said.

Some demolition and clearing work has been completed, but a May 2015 lawsuit filed by a group of homeowners called the “Shinnecock Neighbors,” who oppose the project, has hindered the developers, cousins Gregg and Mitchell Rechler, from securing the necessary Suffolk County Health Department and town building permits to move forward with any construction. Most of the complaints filed by the plaintiffs ultimately were dismissed by the courts this summer.

Several dozen people, including supporters and opponents of the renovation, converged at Town Hall prior to last month’s vote to share their opinions.

Adam Ortiz of Hampton Bays, who supports the project, stood at the podium during the public comment portion of the meeting to urge the Town Board to approve the extension, citing the tax benefit it would bring to the community.

The 37 townhouses are expected to have seasonal residents, meaning that they will pay taxes to the Hampton Bays School District without draining any school resources. They also will have limited use for governmental services, according to proponents.

But Dale Nichol of Shinnecock Hills expressed concern about the project before encouraging board members to deny the extension. She stated that the revitalization plans for the old Canoe Place Inn still won’t meet the hamlet’s “21st century needs” for tourism, especially when compared to other options, such as the addition of a high-end hotel or a timeshare community.

“I do not believe the Canoe Place Inn, as it’s currently proposed, will help Hampton Bays,” Ms. Nichol said.

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Let’s go!! Get it done
By bigblue84 (89), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 17 12:15 PM
Hampton Bays can now grow better and stronger. Thank you Town Board!
By Bruce Doscher (9), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 17 12:37 PM
Time shares meet "twenty first century needs" for tourism? Seriously? I know people who can't GIVE them away.

Each time there is an article on this subject the same handful of people stand up and say the same things, while it seems new supporters willing to add their voice never seem to end.

Let's get this done!
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 17 12:58 PM
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It certainly gets easier to live with the eyesore as time goes on. Would have loved to see it razed to the ground, but good luck on the new project! I fully expect to see it shuttered by 2019!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 21, 17 2:03 PM
Well at least you think they will get the restoration done quickly!
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 17 7:06 PM
I didn't say "completed and shuttered" I just said "shuttered"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 22, 17 6:17 AM
Oh I see you think after years and years of planning they untold millions of dollars they are going to say Oops changed our minds and walk away from this.

Right. Makes sense.
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 17 6:30 AM
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Are you going to frequent it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 23, 17 12:40 AM
I can't wait!
By bb (922), Hampton Bays on Dec 23, 17 11:08 AM
Let’s get the job done,no more delaying no more whining.In the words of the exalted one Lets Make Hampton Bays Great Again.
By watchdog1 (543), Southampton on Dec 21, 17 5:25 PM
Congratulations Hampton Bays !
By joe hampton (3461), The Hamptons on Dec 21, 17 6:06 PM
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Do you think that the interest expense from mortgages over $750,000 is no longer deductible might put a crimp in this real estate project? Or that the property taxes on multi million dollar vacation condos is not deductible might slow pre-sales?
By dfree (818), hampton bays on Dec 21, 17 6:57 PM
What do you think gets built first, this development or the wall on our national border that Mexico will pay for?
By dfree (818), hampton bays on Dec 21, 17 6:59 PM
Well done Town Board! Time to remove these delapadated buildings from our
beautiful hamlet.

By Jimion (129), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 17 7:42 PM
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Are there any "Lock him up!" rallies planned there over the holidays?
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Dec 21, 17 7:57 PM
Thanks goodness that that bunch of crumply "Shinnecock Neighbors" didn't get their way. The support for this project is overwhelming, let's' get it done - going to be a great venue!
By HamptonDad (236), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 17 8:07 PM
I couldn’t have said it better HamptonDad. Let’s get this project going.. Build baby Build.
By Tomjulie (43), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 17 8:22 AM
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Rechler Equity - Buy Lloyd's in Eastport and do something special! The tax base is going to be crushed. Highest taxes in Southampton Town!
By Mouthampton (439), Southampton on Dec 22, 17 9:20 AM
Toma Noku this is not the thread your looking for you want Butt hurt Trump derangement syndrome two up on the left
By 27dan (2854), Shinnecock Hills on Dec 22, 17 10:02 AM
HB did it to themselves by having a group that petitioned to save the CPI. These two projects never should have been linked but somehow they are. The catering hall isnt that big a deal for the property and location but the townhouses are to much. The catering hall problem will be the traffic when it lets out, will jam the already jammed intsersection of 27a and Canoe Place Road. The only way that would change is if its blocked from 27a and has to go around Newtown. The townhouses will destroy the ...more
By North Sea Citizen (568), North Sea on Dec 23, 17 6:55 AM
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shouda' woulda' coulda' - The "could have been" ship has sailed. Without progress, Hampton Bays will continue to rot. You have to be blind not to see the blight. The Town can't keep taking viable business parcels off the tax roles - not just for the lost taxes - but for the lost vitality. It don't don't actually live in Hampton Bays, you really don't get it.
Dec 23, 17 8:10 AM appended by HB Proud
Last sentence should be "if you don't actually live in Hampton Bays, you really don't get it.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Dec 23, 17 8:10 AM
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Talk about the glass half empty, some people just never see or don't want to see the positive side of things. Does anybody really think that there will be more sewerage usage by these 37 part-time used condo's then there was when thousands of people were using the bathrooms in the three restaurants that were there previously?? Can anybody say they would rather look at the dilapidated buildings there now than a brand new buildings that will help show off some of the beauty of HB? As far as public ...more
By HamptonDad (236), Hampton Bays on Dec 23, 17 12:38 PM
Don’t hold your breath to see this done. The owners project at Gabreski is basically a failure and years behind schedule. The same will happen with this project
By G (342), Southampton on Dec 23, 17 9:23 AM
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The Town of Southampton is the Town of "no" especially when things get too complicated. In my business we say "it is not IF we are going to get it done it is HOW". That is not the case with the Town. I believe the developer has acted in good faith and well intended, however, it may not be financially viable or the Town may make it too hard. The extension is 2 years - they will have to start building in 1 year. We will see.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Dec 23, 17 9:52 AM
Let's remember that originally they just wanted to tear it down and build on the land; that project may have lead y been half done if we'd allowed it. Instead, a small, loud group "saved" CPI... if it gets hit by lightning and burns to the ground it couldn't happen soon enough.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8265), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 23, 17 9:57 AM
Yes, yes, we all remember the original plan and many of us scratch our heads about who really wanted to save CPI. Please let's not go around the same mountain again. We need to move forward from TODAY.
By HB Proud (889), Hampton Bays on Dec 23, 17 11:15 AM
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What's going on with The diner? That's another eye sore!
By Kitten (5), Hampton Bays on Dec 28, 17 7:48 PM
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great qestion any updates southampton press ?
By Erin 27 E (1281), hampton bays on Dec 29, 17 3:05 AM
Just how much black mold and asbestos resides in that wreck ? Please tell us, do they plan to enter the venue in back, Can one imagine a Bridal Party being yelled and cursed at in the current front as mouthy kids pass by ..... So close to Montauk Highway! It's a built to FAIL ELEPHANT !
By carsrus (65), Hampton Bays on Jan 4, 18 5:39 PM