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May 14, 2013 2:09 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

New Traffic Light Coming To Hampton Bays

May 15, 2013 12:36 PM
The Suffolk County Department of Public Works will install a new traffic light at the intersection of Montauk Highway and Canoe Place Road in Hampton Bays early next year, according to officials.

The new light is the result of a joint effort between several town groups—including the Hampton Bays Beautification Association, the Town Transportation Committee and Suffolk County Legislator Jay Schneiderman, and was prompted by a fatal accident two years ago.

According to Susan Von Freddi, the president of the Beautification Association, the group began its campaign for the light following the tragic death of one of its members, Jeanette Kelly, in October 2011.

Ms. Kelly was attempting to make a left turn onto Montauk Highway from Canoe Place Road when it is believed she hesitated and was struck on the driver’s side by a van being driven eastbound on Montauk Highway. She died after being airlifted to Stony Brook University Medical Center.

“At the funeral, I met with the family and they were distraught,” Ms. Von Freddi said. “We all said right then that we were going to do what we could to get a light, or at least some solution, presented to us on how to make that corner and the whole intersection safer.”

After the accident, and with several requests from throughout Southampton Town, the Suffolk County Department of Public Works conducted a traffic study in the area last summer. Last week, Chief Engineer William Hillman announced that due to a history of crashes and an increased traffic volume at different times of year, the intersection did need a light.

“Traffic volume continues to increase in this area,” Mr. Schneiderman said in a press release sent out this week. “And a traffic light will make this intersection much safer for drivers and pedestrians.”

According to Thomas F. Neely, the director of public transportation and traffic safety for Southampton Town, designs for the light will be finalized over the next few months and the county will set aside funding to have it installed sometime in early 2014.

“We are all looking forward to having it installed,” Mr. Neely said this week. “I haven’t seen an estimate for it yet, but this is a significant and necessary investment for the county. Traffic signals are pretty expensive, so it is good to see that they have justified it and they will be able to fund the installation next year.”

Mr. Neely said this week that it was unclear what type of light would be installed at the intersection, noting that engineers are considering whether turn signals are needed, or if a standard three-color light will be sufficient.

“As the East End has become busier over the years, this is one location where traffic volume has increased significantly,” Southampton Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said in the release. “I thank the county for responding to the community’s concerns by conducting a thorough analysis of the area. The light will make the area safer for everyone.”

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Two and one-half years from fatal accident to installation!

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By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 14, 13 2:50 PM
$$$$$$$
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on May 14, 13 3:51 PM
Is it possible that the hidden costs of NOT doing this work could actually be higher than the cost of doing it? (damage to and loss of property and human lives, higher insurance premiums, increased stress on drivers, etc.)?

A true cost-benefit analysis might surprise IMO, similar to not having a needed medical procedure ASAP, only to have the condition worsen exponentially and cost way more eventually.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 14, 13 4:00 PM
kill·joy
/ˈkilˌjoi/
Noun
A person who deliberately spoils the enjoyment of others through resentful or overly sober behavior.
Synonyms
spoilsport - wet blanket
By whatapity (106), Tuckahoe on May 14, 13 5:38 PM
I'm talking about $$ from the County's budget - everything you mentioned is moot. If the County doesn't have $$ in their budget, they can't spend it (I know I know... I'm trying not to laugh too)
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on May 15, 13 4:28 PM
Yes Nature, I understood your $$$$$$$ point. I was asking mainly about the broader picture of the overall costs to society for not spending money proactively, and thereby having higher costs as a result, as I believe you understand.

Laugh about what?
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 15, 13 5:17 PM
Laugh about the County not spending money it doesn't have... obviously they would NEVER do that.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on May 16, 13 9:25 AM
Now we need a left turn arrow or delayed light at the corner of Montauk Highway and Ponquogue Avenue.
By Robert I Ross (250), Hampton Bays on May 14, 13 3:48 PM
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We don't need that - just a little patience sometimes.
By VOS (1241), WHB on May 14, 13 10:04 PM
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Oh Jay, you're my hero.
By whatapity (106), Tuckahoe on May 14, 13 5:37 PM
The light is needed and it will be interesting when the Rechlers build the catering hall at the CPI when hundreds of people and cars leave at the end of their event. That whole area is going to be one big clog.
By North Sea Citizen (568), North Sea on May 15, 13 6:39 AM
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I wonder if the County's plans include the possible traffic from the new CPI, whatever it is called, and from the east side of the canal (is this still in the mix for the Rechler's proposal?).

Or will this have to be revisited later? It sounds as if the county study (post October 2011 accident) was fairly limited in scope.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 15, 13 7:00 AM
The applicant would be/could be responsible for any additional changes that need to be made to that intersection/roadway due to traffic stemming from their development. Part of the EIS will be a traffic impact study that will have recommendations
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on May 15, 13 4:27 PM
Ditto to my point above, generally speaking, that as a society when we, for instance, look in the microscope and fix this particular intersection, without considering the re-do's to be required for the CPI renovation, we end up spending more, rather than less.

Maybe this herky-jerky planning is the best we can do, but somehow it seems we could do better IMO.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 15, 13 5:20 PM
I'll give you another Bumper Car example. (careful with the old B/P there!)

The huge renovation of the parking lot near the Southampton Grade School (including having the southbound traffic on Pine Street now having to loop through the parking lot to go north again to Hampton Road) --

vs.

the new Citarella going in.

What a counter-productive series of disjointed moves!
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 15, 13 5:22 PM
You're not understanding - the Town could require the applicant to pay for traffic improvements. So if the traffic measures installed by the County aren't deemed sufficient by the impact study, the Town can require the applicant to pay the additional costs to make it what it needs to be in order to accomodate the proposed development
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on May 15, 13 5:37 PM
I understood entirely. My point is much broader, just take off the "planner" blinders and act as if you were Emperor!
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 15, 13 5:57 PM
Yes waste the CPI's applicants time so maybe he will give up and build nothing. Then you can watch the CPI turn to rubble.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on May 16, 13 10:04 PM
Long overdue , and the CPI needs to be razed as soon as possible , an eyesore is a compliment
By ashhelm (9), hampton bays on May 15, 13 6:56 AM
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Thank god. What a bitch it is making a left hand turn at that intersection!
By Miss K. (103), East Quogue on May 15, 13 4:07 PM
All that is needed is a No Left hand turn sign. Anyone who makes a left at that intersection is asking for trouble. You can go east on Montauk hwy, make a left on newtown and use the access rd by cpi to go east. Probably takes 30 sec.
By prometheus (13), HB on May 19, 13 4:26 PM
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No traffic lights in Hampton Bays people need to get through that scum pit of a town as quick as possible.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on May 21, 13 8:42 PM
Over the line IMO.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 21, 13 8:52 PM
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Nice Chief, thanks.
By dnice (2346), Hampton Bays on May 21, 13 9:21 PM
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You redefine yourself as often as you can, don't you? One day a racist, the next a complete idiot.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on May 21, 13 9:59 PM
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Good Ground may be better off . . . ?
By PBR (4956), Southampton on May 22, 13 5:02 AM
I'm a racist now? I called Hampton Bays a scum pit now I'm an idiot? Hampton Bays is turning into a slum with the down town starting to mirror Spanish Harlem. You can't totally blame the Hispanics for that, because you have the embedded old bittys who want little change. Meanwhile you have projects on the drawing board that could turn Hampton Bays around. A lot of peopl who live in Hampton Bays feel the same way that's why they want their own village. My comment above was half kidding and its ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on May 22, 13 7:35 AM
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By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on May 22, 13 3:16 PM
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I get that it is your ball and you make the rules 27east, but you allow this person to make racists statements, and insult the population of Hampton Bays, and when I call him on it, you ban it?

By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on May 22, 13 4:53 PM
I would've thought that Hill Station Road entry was way more dangerous .. but ssshhhhhh don't tell anyone .. more people more stores more more mcmansions more hamptons magazines more people more taxes more illegals more eruvs more traffic more sheyat
By david h (405), southampton on May 22, 13 2:28 PM
Why is it a four minute ride to get to work is now 45 minutes , don't mind the traffic on Montauk highway or sunrise highway but when I come down through Hamptonbays and it's backed up on Canoe Pl., Road it's ridiculous they are backed up as far as non-Avenue it's ridiculous either put right turn on red sign at the end of Canoe Pl., Road or stop the traffic from coming down Ponquogue like they did over at shrub land Road in Southampton
By DennisDemarco (1), on Apr 23, 15 7:18 AM