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Jul 28, 2010 12:09 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Two boats collide on Peconic Bay near Robins Island

Jul 28, 2010 12:09 PM

No serious injuries were reported after two boats collided in Peconic Bay near Robins Island on Tuesday evening.

A 32-foot Tiara motorboat heading eastbound from Riverhead to Greenport with four people on board collided with a 16-foot open fishing boat with three people on board, according to Sergeant John Andrejack, commanding officer for the marine patrol of the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Office.

The fishing boat had been drifting through the south race of Robins Island—which the sergeant said is notorious for its swift currents—when it was struck, capsizing the vessel and ejecting all three people on board into the bay, where waves were approximately 1 foot high, Sgt. Andrejack said.

The ejected boaters, who were all wearing life jackets, were picked up by the North Sea Fire Department, which was nearby performing a monthly drill when the “mayday” call came in around 7 p.m., said Chief Stephen Phillips Jr. The passengers, a father, uncle and son, were transported to Conscience Point in North Sea in the department’s new water rescue boat, purchased last year. From there, they were taken by Southampton Volunteer Ambulance to Southampton Hospital to be treated, according to the sergeant and Chief Phillips.

The four passengers on the motorboat were uninjured, 
Sgt. Andrejack said. Alcohol 
was not a factor in the crash, he said.

The sheriff’s office Marine 5 patrol vessel was on a routine patrol in the bay west of Robins Island when it responded to 
the distress call that came over the Marine International Distress Channel 16, Sgt. Andrejack said.

Southampton Town Police, the U.S. Coast Guard Shinnecock Station and Sea Tow Services International of Southold also responded to the scene.

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Everyone OK?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 27, 10 9:06 PM
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Unreal! No excuses! This is why boaters should be licensed.
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 27, 10 9:59 PM
Hefty undertaking to do so, but the fees most likely could cover the expenses of courses, tests, instruction, and of course employing captains to administer the, er, "road test".

Major fiscal, and logistical undertaking, but it could save a life...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 27, 10 11:03 PM
It would be! I'm surprised the insurance lobby hasn't gotten behind the idea to create a whole new market for themselves.
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 27, 10 11:54 PM
NICE JOB NORTH SEA FIREMAN................Our tax dollars at work. Thank you to all the voluteer fireman and ambulance and their training.... it pays off.
By mother of firefighter (18), Southampton on Jul 28, 10 12:18 PM
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yes... $500,000 of you tax dollars for an oversized, over equipped boat, i didn't realize north sea residents were so rich, but hey- its your money.

the truth is this incident would have been handled easily by the sherrifs boat, the north sea boat responds to everything to justify their huge expenditure for that boat.
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 28, 10 10:10 PM
Y'know, as a former member who excused himself for occupational, and health reasons, I'll be the first to tell you that North Sea has been an underequipped, and under budgeted entity for many years.

Due to the recent population explosion since 2001, what they have is equipment that may be a bit overengineered, HOWEVER, it stands the test of time.

Just like Moore's Law of technology states, things become dated quickly in our current society. A slightly higher initial investment, ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 28, 10 11:20 PM
im not saying they should have gotten an inferior boat- just one smaller and better suited to the needs of the district- and they could have done so for at least $350,000 LESS. remember, bigger equals higher fuel and maintenance costs too.
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 30, 10 2:00 PM
I heard that the 32footer didnt even see the small boat. I guess that they werent paying attention! To many close calls on the bay. People can buy anything they want and just drive it out and terrorize everyone. Lucky this time no one got hurt. On Monday afternoon another mayday came in from an inexperienced boater in a 36' Tiara who lost a drive. The guy didnt have a clue as to his location and or even how to read the gps to seatow. Lastly he was demanding and rude to seatow. "I want a boat here ...more
By North Sea Citizen (568), North Sea on Jul 28, 10 1:16 PM
I like ICE's idea about licensing for a boat, and you're absolutely right about it being necessary. Most people just go out, and GROSSLY overestimate their ability, and knowledge about whatever activity they are engaging in.

Just 'cause you have the money to buy a boat like that, doesn't mean you can buy the brains to operate the equipment.

It's also amazing more bicyclists aren't killed. Especially the idiotic ones who ride on the wrong side of the road, against traffic.

This ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 28, 10 4:06 PM
"Hey you scratched my anchor!"
By GoldenBoy (351), EastEnd on Jul 28, 10 3:10 PM
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Thanks to the fire and ambulance departments, let me rephrase, VOLUNTEER FIRE AND AMBULANCE DEPARTMENTS for everything these people do for our community.
By do.the.right.thing (3), Southampton on Jul 28, 10 6:37 PM
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perhaps we should thank the volunteers in the southampton villiage fd for mobilizing all east end FD's , police boats and dive teams, coast guard and county helicopters for a disabled jet ski that was already on the beach near the inlet on sat night. their lack of common sence and training wasted tremendous resources, as well as putting responders and bystanders in harms way . why havn't we heard about this fiasco in the news??
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 28, 10 10:15 PM
Good question.
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Jul 29, 10 6:38 PM
It seems to me we have many "licensed" drivers of motor vehicles, yet there are still many, many accidents on our roads. What makes you think "licensed boaters" are going to curtail accidents on our waterways? Many boats that are manufactured have helm positions, which are far off the bow. These boats should have higher insurance premiums. Tiara is one of them. I AM NOT saying this is an excuse, but can see it being a reason.

I am glad to hear the North Sea Fire Dept. has a new boat. ...more
By c'mon now (46), southampton on Jul 28, 10 6:48 PM
Imagine if we did not license drivers, how many accidents there would be.

For example, look at the number of accidents that ARE caused by unlicensed drivers on a regular basis.

We aren't saying it would solve the problem, but it may put a solid dent in it.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 28, 10 8:54 PM
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Well done by the North Sea Fire Department, and all other responders!

What an amazing alignment IMO:

-- NSFD drill underway in new boat
-- SC Marine 5 patrol boat nearby
-- life vests worn by three people ejected into the water
-- alcohol not involved


This incident could have been disastrous without the alignment referenced above.

Who called in the Mayday on Channel 16? Is there a recording of this call?

At 7 PM the light was OK, why ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jul 28, 10 9:53 PM
regarding my reply to "dotherightthing" i appreciate the fact that the local fd's are volunteers, however this doesn't justify or excuse reckless and irresponsible action. i have seen large firetrucks travelling at reckless speeds on narrow roads with children present responding to a smoking transformer; and have seen the north sea fireboat travelling at top speed out of north sea harbor while swimmers are in the water while "responding" to a disabled boat in no immediate danger.

i ...more
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 28, 10 10:27 PM
Yes, you do have to be "qualified" to operate any vehicle in the department, which requires training, and certification.

The only difference between the volunteer sector, and the civilian sector is that if you are qualified, you may operate a fire truck, without a valid CDL.

However, many volunteers do possess them...
Jul 28, 10 11:15 PM appended by Mr. Z
Also, there is NO EXCUSE for recklessness, or overzealous behavior.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 28, 10 11:15 PM
CaptainSIG, you are right. How come there was no reporting on that Saturday evening fiasco? Someone should have been demoted on that one.

I do hope North Sea FD did not pay $500,000 for their boat.
But two of the worst areas of the bays...the south race and jessup neck fall in their rescue area. That Sherrif's boat is tied to the dock most often. And Coast Guard Group Shinnecock has a whole lot of water to cover. I am still glad they got a "real" boat. It will be put to good ...more
By c'mon now (46), southampton on Jul 29, 10 3:15 PM
you seem to be forgetting about the marine police boats- all the east end town have them. the primary function of a fire dept is putting out fires. search and rescue falls under the coast guard and local police agencies
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 30, 10 2:09 PM
Do the police agencies in question have trained dive teams?
Jul 30, 10 9:47 PM appended by Mr. Z
As I recall, SHTPD keeps their equipment in Westhampton...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jul 30, 10 9:47 PM
yes they do -- southampton and east hampton and the sherrifs all have dive teams . southampton PD responds out of Hampton Bays
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Jul 31, 10 6:50 AM
So, is cross training, and lower response times a bad thing?
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Aug 1, 10 9:07 PM
no its not- but co-ordination of response would be a good thing. witness the fiasco in the ocean last saturday night. somebody pushes a button and everyone gets in the trucks and races around without even knowing whats going on . ive heard from other fd's that north sea in particular tends to respond out of district without being requested

we have a huge pool of resources and qualified people available from all the PD's, fire depts and amb crews- but there is no one in charge and even ...more
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Aug 3, 10 7:33 AM
IT is interesting to read all the above comments...Lets start with accidents are just that accidents!...then lets add.....how fast do you want them to come to you when you have a problem?......Now i would like to add...Volunteers, both fire department and ambulance work hard, study, drill, and meet to keeps the cridentials alive. They put in many many hours away from their families and loved ones to give back. This particular day that boat was drilling with their dive team, and lucky that it was! ...more
By local11968 (7), southampton on Aug 1, 10 7:55 PM
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i'm glad they "meet to keeps the cridentials alive" whatever that means, and based on your PS i'm guessing that you may be just a LITTLE biased. and now i would like to add- you totally missed the point then lets add a fast and efficient response by properly trained professionals is desired, not a bunch of overgrown kids playing with their sirens and then add if a police car, fire truck or amb responds recklessly and crashes they will never GET to the scene, and now add - why are all you FD people ...more
By CaptainSig (716), Dutch Harbor on Aug 3, 10 10:19 PM
some manic panic gremmie put a dingie in my board!
By uncleronk (136), southold on Aug 6, 10 12:47 PM