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Dec 9, 2010 11:01 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Construction Bond Rejected By Remsenburg-Speonk School District Voters

Dec 9, 2010 11:01 AM

Voters on Tuesday narrowly rejected a $5.7 million bond that would have paid for additions to Remsenburg/Speonk Elementary School, including a new cafeteria, kitchen and library.

The bond failed by a margin of 29 votes, with 203 district residents voting in favor of the bond, and 232 voting against, according to the district.

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The people of Remsenburg have spoken. We can not afford a tax increase of around 50 cents a day. No child is worth such a hefty investment. The good people of Remsenburg will now request assistance from all levels of govt to help subsidize the expenses of maintaining our landscaping, boats and BMW's. Perhaps we can set up chairs on the new turf football field in Westhampton and conduct classes outdoors and finally close Remsenburg / Speonk school down for good. I'd write more, but I have to run ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 8, 10 9:10 AM
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Angry guy you are.LOL
By countyworkerstruggling (7), remsenburg on Dec 8, 10 12:55 PM
It's a question of controlling runnaway school spending. By the way I drive a 10 year old car and have never been to starbucks. Can't retire at 55 with a 100k pension and free medical.
By maxwell (169), speonk on Dec 8, 10 9:15 AM
I can't either. The problem is too many in the community are looking at this as the people vs. the teachers. Too few are looking at it as wanting the best for our kids. Our tax bills are loaded with nonsense spending and waste, yet we choose to draw the dagger when we have the opportunity to offer our kids a better facility for a tax load that is so low it will hardly be noticed. Regardless of outcome, the compensation package for the teachers is unaffected.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 8, 10 9:33 AM
The problem is and has always been administration costs in the school district's around the Island. I find it hard to think that a teacher who teaches k is making as much money as a cop. Some are making as much or even more than a professor. Cap their salaries to curb taxes and when the community is asked for monies that will benefit the children, watch the response you will get. +++ The teachers have ruined it for all the kids. Enough said...
By countyworkerstruggling (7), remsenburg on Dec 8, 10 12:54 PM
why shouldnt a kindergarten teacher make as much as a cop....learning how to read not a priority? both jobs are vital to society....doesnt a good quality teacher benefit the children and their future? also, taxes here are so low compared to everyone else i know...i live here year round...the school makes the community....im very disappointed with the failure....
By musiclady (4), remsenburg on Dec 11, 10 6:11 PM
What a joke.....All you "no" voters need to take your anger out somewhere else. Do you feel better now that and feel like you have finally made a difference in your life? Go back under your rock. Its safer for everyone when your there.
By it never ends... (25), SMITHTOWN on Dec 8, 10 9:50 AM
I can't vote in the district but have family and friend interests there and hoped it would pass but have opined in the past that the district could have done a much better job in being specific about the use of the money.

That said, one issue is the arcane voting eligibility issues. Persons who oen property and pay taxes but do their political voting elsewhere don't vote in the school budget elections. Remsenberg seems to be no different in this.

Good school(s) are an underpinning ...more
By hdhouse (8), westhampton on Dec 8, 10 10:10 AM
I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of no votes came from people who spend more money on horrible danishes at the Beach Bakery on a weekly basis than they would on this bond proposal.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 8, 10 10:39 AM
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I am one of those people who owns a house in Remsenburg and can't vote because my primary residence is elsewhere. That said I think that most of the people who own the BMW's and Boats as Double Standard said are also 2nd homeowners and ineligible to vote.

This guilt trip needs to be redirected to the people who vote and not the people who would've been forced to accept the decision without a say in it.
By mike9186 (17), Remsenburg on Dec 8, 10 11:02 AM
I was just using sarcasm to point out that we live in an area a great wealth and low taxes. I understand that not everyone around here is rich. I don't have a boat or a BMW. My point is more that I don't think what the school was asking for was excessive and the tax burden associate was very small. I hope to live in this town for a long, long time. I see an investment in the schools as an investment in the community. I think we should have a larger and more modern facility. I think that collectively ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 8, 10 11:20 AM
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I don't know why the residents of Remsenburg are being stero-typed as being rich. There are many like myself who are by no means wealthy. I work for Steve levy and last year we were required to forfeit 2 weeks pay. I have'nt seen a raise in 2 years and won't for a couple more. I don't have children and yet I am required to support this school. It is apparent the school needs updates, but 5 million dollars worth sounds to me like its going to be wasteful spending. Come back with a more reasonable ...more
By countyworkerstruggling (7), remsenburg on Dec 8, 10 12:43 PM
people that did not have any children also paid for your education.....thats how it works....nothing is more important than quality education...without it you end up blaming others for your own disappointments...remsenburg teachers are wonderful and dedicated...keep up the good work you are worth every penny....
By musiclady (4), remsenburg on Dec 11, 10 5:53 PM
teachers like cops are overpaid! that why we have run away taxes,,, enough said. if people keep beating on the residents of remsenburg with their jokes, it's only going to strengthen our resolve to say no... even me, who thinks the school needs some upgrades. you must be a teacher-lol
By countyworkerstruggling (7), remsenburg on Dec 13, 10 11:27 AM
Give me a break countyworker. You need to strengthen your resolve and be spiteful against children???
Again, you equate the bond with teacher compensation, which only shows that you have zero understanding of the topic.

A lot of people are struggling so get over yourself and stop trying to pull people down. Maybe you should strengthen your resolve and make your own situation better instead of attacking other professions.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 15, 10 11:13 AM
Oh, hi angry guy... I have read some of your reply's. I think you need anger management classes. Most of them are a play on words. I hope the school never gets what they want... ;) The folks of Remsenburg have spoken....
By countyworkerstruggling (7), remsenburg on Dec 15, 10 4:49 PM
Ok I'll be angry guy. What should we call you? What can we call a guy that publicly admits to voting a certain way because A. he can't see the difference between teacher compensation and the need for a larger facility B. Voting a certain way out of spite C. Being angry at teachers and the police because he is struggling in his career?
I know a few names that we can apply to you, but I'd rather not post them. Merry Christmas, countyworker. Your spirit of giving and concern can warm the coldest ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 15, 10 6:10 PM
LOL. You obviously did'nt read my prior post. I was in favor for an expansion. The plans called for want's as well as needs. Let's be realistic. Like I said, nix the bells and whistles (Want's) and I will vote for it. It's a blue ribbon school. One question angry guy. Would you allow the Suffolk County Exec to raise your county propery taxes one dollar and I ask one dollar? This is all Steve Levy needs to do in order to balance his budget and give his workers a cola raise. Would you be in favor ...more
By countyworkerstruggling (7), remsenburg on Dec 16, 10 12:44 PM
Ha ha ha! Trim the fat.... from what 35 cents a day to 31 cents a day? What does the Blue Ribbon status have to do with the actual facility? You simply have no clue of what you are talking about.

To the rest of your post... I have no idea of what your compensation package is worth. That said, if you are so unhappy then perhaps you should move on and stop being mad at the rest of the world. You think it's so great in the private sector? Some jobs are not worth the effort. Maybe yours falls ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Dec 16, 10 5:13 PM