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Jan 13, 2012 12:38 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Mayor Says Southampton Village Supermarket Law Has Good Chance Of Passing, Despite Opposition

Jan 18, 2012 11:16 AM

Traffic was another concern voiced by opponents.

The chairwomen of the Water Mill and Southampton-Tuckahoe-Shinnecock Hills citizens advisory committees have said their groups were mostly opposed. Bonnie Goebert, chairwoman of the latter CAC, said the law’s passage would bring about the “death of a historic village.”

A few speakers at the public hearing voiced support for the legislation, pointing out that a new grocery store would offer a welcome alternative to the Waldbaum’s on Jagger Lane.

Kathryn Stachecki Boutcher told the board she favors the law because a supermarket buying her family’s 2.2-acre lot on County Road 39—a farmer’s plot that her family has had trouble selling—could be their chance to “unload” a property that has become an “economic hardship.”

Village Board members held the public hearing open for further discussion. The board meets next on Tuesday, January 24, at 5 p.m. at Village Hall on Main Street.

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Is this the same administration which proposed bow-and-arrow deer hunting in the Village! It may be time to have the drinking water in Rome checked for hallucinogens!
By Nero (301), Sag Harbor on Jan 13, 12 12:42 PM
good one, nero. not.
By milkdilk (49), Southampton on Jan 13, 12 7:09 PM
The Tuckahoe site would have created less of a traffic problem, and could have supported a much larger store.
By SusieD (115), Southampton on Jan 13, 12 11:48 PM
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The "Tuckahoe site" is NOT a suitable location. I have followed the issue very closely and this store would create countless traffic issues on 39 and the residential back streets,not to mention destroying the property values of every residence that borders the site.

Additionally, the site is zoned "highway business" - this zoning does NOT allow for a grocery store and should not be changed to accommodate one man's vision.

This talk of "needing" a new grocery store is absolutely ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Jan 14, 12 10:14 AM
The only grocery store in town, Waldbaums, could use some competition. The specialty grocery stores would still be used.
By joan s (53), hampton bays on Jan 14, 12 12:37 PM
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I think it comes down to when do we simply say "enough". I thought living out here was BECAUSE some people reject the idea of a 24/7 society. I know that's one big reason why I have always loved it. Peace, and quiet. Now, there are times when I feel like it's some "bastard suburbia". When will there come a time that there is nothing left to exploit? I agree with David on this one. And, I think that you can place "demanding convenience" under the header "wanton destruction".

Overdeveloped, ...more
Jan 14, 12 10:24 PM appended by Mr. Z
Also, don't forget livin' life slow...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 14, 12 10:24 PM
If you're the "we" who decides, we'd be living in caves, clubing women for wives and wearing fur boxer shorts. This is still a republic, Tarzan, and the "we" still means "we the people" and not "me the person".
By Dodger (161), Southampton Village on Jan 22, 12 7:50 PM
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Y'know, I remember when going to Riverhead was a "treat". When the old King Kullen in BH was a "haul". Hide and seek in the appliances at the Sears Catalog store next door. Vaguely one movie at the drive in, and a trip to Austin-Clark becauese it was going to close. How about the T-shirt shop, next to the banquet hall, where you now catch the bus.

Country life was about properly stocking the pantry. It was about a certain commonwealth, that seems to be missing, in a way. Commonwealth. ...more
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 14, 12 12:10 AM
Too true Mr. ZZZ. When you're right, you're right! Slightly incoherrant, but right.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Jan 14, 12 7:57 AM
A bit of a ramble, for sure. But, that's kind of the way the free association in my head works most of the time.

If you want a real throwback, check out the aerial views in the LIAM film on the Vanderbilt cup racing website. Trying to pick out the intersections, and streets is pretty interesting. There are now & then photos as well.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 14, 12 10:08 PM
I hate to say this but it looks like there will be another supermarket. Plus more and more congestion. "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot" I believe that's Judy Collins
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Jan 18, 12 12:16 PM
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as the urbanization of the city of southampton continues apace, why would you even be surprised that this is taking place. However, isn't it convenient that the Glennon property was worth X under current zoning and then 4X with the zoning change. Talk about a homerun. This really, really, REALLY doesn't pass the smell test. Perhaps our annointed officials would reveal the terms of the lease, eh ? And those poor people in the condo next door; all those delivery trucks at 3:00 a.m.. But hey, it's ...more
By lazymedic (100), southampton on Jan 19, 12 9:15 AM
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Lazymedic: Why would the terms of the lease be any of YOUR business? And the village does not get a copy of such PRIVATE documents. That's between the Glennon family and whomever they lease their space to or sell it to, if that's what THEY choose to do. And, if disclosed, what would it tell you? More to gossip about? If this was your business, you'd be telling everyone to butt out. So take a hint. And if you were that close to the Glennon family, you'd know all the answers, wouldn't you? ...more
By Dodger (161), Southampton Village on Jan 22, 12 7:47 PM
The Golden Rule?

He who has the gold, makes the rule.
By Nero (301), Sag Harbor on Jan 23, 12 6:01 AM
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I've read all the above and I have to wonder just where y'all are coming from. I set up house keeping in Bridgehampton in 1952. My parents had a village meat and groceries store since the 1920's in Southampton village so I do remember how it was. I see how it has become now in 2012. And in reading David Goddard's book regarding the 'Colonizing of Southampton" The changes over the years are only inevitable or natural, whichever.
The Fresh Market would be a good thing for Southampoton. The Schmidt ...more
By summertime (589), summerfield fl on Jan 23, 12 12:41 PM
What has happened, is some idiot called it "Paradise".

That was pretty much the end of a good thing, and the beginning of exploitation beyond any dreams of avarice.

Let's build a second home haven, 'cause farms, who the h*** needs them?
Jan 23, 12 2:20 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, BTW, there was NOTHING "natural" about all the fake money the Fed pumped into the economy, which drove the orgiastic greedfest out here.
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Jan 23, 12 2:20 PM
Over-development is not inevitable and it is most certainly NOT natural
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Jan 26, 12 10:39 AM
While the location may not be appropriate, depending upon traffic studies and the like, the objections based on our having more than enough grocery store choices are ridiculous. In a capitalist society, the consumer drives those choices. If the market owner believes there are sufficient customers out there and they want to compete with Waldbaums, Avanti and Schmidts they should be permitted to do so. I should bot be required to go to horrible Waldbaums, buy over the hill and overpriced produce ...more
By nancyloo (13), Southampton on Jan 24, 12 3:30 PM
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"The consumer should make the choices . . . . . ?"

After the Emperor of Southampton Village enforces the Golden Rule?
By Nero (301), Sag Harbor on Jan 24, 12 7:53 PM
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What's up with the attention to detail at 27east? I've seen so many typos and mistakes in 20 of so minutes flipping through this site. Ya'll are slipping and you want money for full access... LOL is there more attention to detail in the paid section?
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Jan 25, 12 5:35 PM