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Oct 12, 2017 4:03 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Town Considering Buying Part Of Tuckahoe Center Property With CPF

Oct 18, 2017 12:01 PM

Southampton Town officials want to buy a parcel of land off County Road 39 in Tuckahoe that was once part of a proposed shopping center complex, known as the Tuckahoe Center, using proceeds from the Community Preservation Fund.

If the town ultimately closes on the property—officials would not disclose the asking price for the nearly 7 acres this week, citing ongoing negotiations—the land would be preserved as open space.

The land in question is part of the shopping center proposal originally pitched by developers Lance Nill, Lyle Pike and Robert Morrow. A change of zone application for the project was pulled by the developers in April, after years of negotiations between them and the town, as well as opposition from many property owners in the area who didn’t want to see a shopping center in their neighborhood.

The developers were looking to alter the zoning on three adjoining properties, all situated along the southeastern side of County Road 39 and near Magee Street, to build the shopping center, which would have been anchored by a large grocery store but also featured other retail space.

The town is now looking to buy one of those three parcels, specifically a 6.7-acre lot on which an old Independent Group Home Living facility now stands, according to Deputy Supervisor Frank Zappone. It was not immediately clear who would be responsible for removing the structure if the deal is ultimately made.

The Town Board will host a public hearing regarding the proposed purchase on Tuesday, November 14, starting at 1 p.m. at Southampton Town Hall.

Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman noted that purchasing and preserving the 6.7-acre property, which is in a residential zone, makes the most sense. He noted that Magee Street is already busy, and that subdividing the land for development purposes down the road would result in an increase in traffic.

The supervisor also pointed out that one of the adjacent properties owned by the developers, a 4.7-acre lot, could still eventually be developed and used for an assisted living facility, as had been discussed in the past. “It could tie in really well,” Mr. Schneiderman said, referring to the possibility of creating a park on the larger parcel and an assisted living facility on the smaller, adjacent one.

The purchase price for the 6.7 acres will not be released until after next month’s public hearing, according to CPF Manager Mary Wilson. Mr. Zappone explained that the purchase price is typically not released until after an appraisal is done and contract negotiations are finalized.

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Why buy the property to stop it from being built on??? Government going in the wrong direction. Buy it for senior housing or something real...
By knitter (1941), Southampton on Oct 12, 17 4:58 PM
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Why is Snyderman bailing out investors?
By Toma Noku (616), Southampton on Oct 12, 17 5:18 PM
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Oct 12, 17 5:32 PM
Great, take more property off the tax roles in the Tuckahoe school district. It already has 4 golf courses and the Stony Brook campus that don't contribute their fair share to the district and just for laughs add the Sandy Hollow affordable housing proposal to the mix. How much is a school district supposed to take! I don't know if I agreed with the shopping center proposal, but at least it would have provided a couple of hundred thousand dollars of revenue to the Tuckahoe school each year!
By longtimelocal (59), Southampton on Oct 12, 17 7:20 PM
By coxie1 (37), southampton on Oct 13, 17 6:30 AM
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The property was abandoned, probably didn't pay much taxes anyway. Ever think of that? i agree maybe this is not the best way to move forward but what was proposed in terms of Tuckhoe Center was to big. Oh commercial property pays a much lower rate then a private residents don't fool yourself.
By JM11968 (71), southampton on Oct 13, 17 2:43 PM
Great point, and if I hear one more time how, many years ago, Tuckahoe voted to stay as their own school district, I'm gonna scream.
Also, don't forget about the road they want to take away from us that goes through the golf course! As a resident of Tuckahoe, that road is a way to go between neighborhoods.This change would only help the members of the golf course (mostly village residents) and the hoards of people from "up west" who come out here to work in construction and are looking to ...more
By sentinel (8), southampton on Oct 13, 17 3:39 PM
Seriously? That property could eventually easily generate tens of thousands of tax dollars for a faltering school that could desperately use the income.
By sentinel (8), southampton on Oct 13, 17 3:46 PM
Looks like the only thing this Preservation Fund is doing lately is preserving higher taxes, Keep buying tax paying properties, take them off the tax rolls and we taxpayers have to make up the difference.

Time to start using these funds for clean water, sewer projects etc.
By HamptonDad (236), Hampton Bays on Oct 12, 17 10:07 PM
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I wonder what it is like to live in a town with real vision and infrastructure.
By Mouthampton (439), Southampton on Oct 12, 17 10:54 PM
Topping Farm, Lobster Inn now Tuckahoe Center ....... plus many more properties off the tax rolls for the Town of Southampton ....... almost forgot about the valuable ocean front properties in the Hampton Bays/East Quogue ares .... really? I cannot believe this was the original intent for the CPF to take properties off and cause higher taxes for the residents of Southampton.
By leo (19), hampton Bays on Oct 13, 17 2:09 PM
Really the tax roll argument? First the property in question has been abandoned for close to two decades so i can't imagine the person/LLC that owned it payed much in tax. second, most of the ocean front in Hampton Bays was preserved by the State county. The clubs that were shut down thanks you ATH buying peoples votes. Lastly, CPF bought the building rights to the Topping farm the family still owns the land and STILL PAYS TAX ON IT!
By JM11968 (71), southampton on Oct 13, 17 2:37 PM
it is a election year madness prevails. the Lobster Inn with CPF money so two marinas and golf course plus who knows what else and the restaurant use to stay with money to preserve open space ?? Money for septic systems? a very far cry from what we voted for. Madness prevails

By Obserever (40), Southnampton on Oct 13, 17 5:32 PM
This money was supposed to be used for farmland and wooded areas. Now we can use it for commercial property?
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Oct 13, 17 8:21 PM
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By chief1 (2800), southampton on Oct 13, 17 8:22 PM
This idea is misguided and in no way fits the criteria for using CPF funds.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Oct 14, 17 7:00 AM
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It has mutated to supporting unrealistic property values and increasing taxes just by taking more land more land off tax rolls.
By Obserever (40), Southnampton on Oct 14, 17 8:27 AM
What do residents get from this? Preserved open space and a much needed assisted living facility. You can bet I'll be watching like a hawk. The devil may be lurking in the details
By svo (7), southampton on Oct 14, 17 9:39 AM
Don't be distracted by the "tax issue"

If there was ever a time to DEMAND a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION of Jay Schneiderman and his "Town Board" it is NOW!

Last time I checked, TAXPAYER MONEY allocated for preservation is to be used just for that, not for re-paying "developers" whose attempt at erecting a monstrosity in our community failed.

These developers invested their money in hopes that they could get the town board members to change the zoning for their plan to build ...more
By DisgustedHamptons (58), Hampton Bays on Oct 23, 17 1:28 AM