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Nov 18, 2014 9:41 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: Tuckahoe-Southampton Merger Fails At Polls

Nov 19, 2014 12:36 PM

UPDATE: 9 p.m.

Officials from both school districts expressed their sadness at the results, saying they appreciated how many community members came to the polls on Tuesday.

According to Tuckahoe Superintendent Chris Dyer, Tuckahoe officials will meet in executive session in the next week to discuss the outcome of the merger vote and begin working on a plan moving forward. The district, he said, will immediately begin the process of formulating a budget for next year.

Mr. Dyer also took time to thank the Southampton District for its hard work during the lead up to the vote.

“We are extremely thankful for the communications plan and the budget that were put together on behalf of the leadership team at Southampton and the folks that worked so hard to get the information out to the voters,” he said. “We are grateful for their time and we know that it was a tough decision for some people. We are respectful of their vote and will do our best to move on. Now, our board will come together and meet with our community to figure out our next step, and start planning for our children for next year to make sure they get the quality education they deserve.”

Immediately after the announcement was made on Tuesday night, Southampton Superintendent Dr. Scott Farina said that although he was disappointed, with the merger vote behind it, the district will now be focusing on increasing student performance throughout the entire district.

“I want to thank the community for participating in all of the forums that we have had,” Dr. Farina said. “I am personally disappointed with the outcome, but now it is time for us to really start concentrating on student achievement and increasing our performance in Southampton.”

UPDATE: 8:15 p.m.

The proposed merger of the Southampton and Tuckahoe school districts was narrowly defeated on Tuesday. Voters in the Tuckahoe School District soundly approved the measure on Tuesday 533-25. But in Southampton, with write-in ballots deciding the vote, the merger was defeated, 1066-972.

Original Story:

Tuckahoe and Southampton voters can head to the polls Tuesday to decide the fate of a merger between the two school districts.

If approved, the merger plan, which has been in discussion for several years, would eliminate the Tuckahoe School District starting on July 1, 2015, absorbing it into the Southampton district. The proposal will have to survive two rounds of voting among community members. The first vote, scheduled for Tuesday, must receive a majority approval from both districts to move the proposal forward to a formal vote in January. A January vote in the two districts would then finalize the merger.

With the reevaluated figures from Southampton, the tax rate for a home in Southampton valued at $1 million would at first decrease and then increase incrementally over the next decade from $2.44 to $2.77 per $1,000 of assessed valuation. That means that in the 2024-25 school year, the tax increase associated exclusively with the merger would add no more than $330 to the current overall school tax for a house valued at $1 million. In the years in between, the taxes paid to cover the merger would rise gradually until reaching that $330 cap.

Currently, Tuckahoe property owners are paying $7.57 per $1,000 in school taxes, a number that would drop until leveling out at $2.77, saving $4,800 for a home valued at $1 million.

Registered Southampton voters can vote in the Southampton Intermediate School music room on Leland Lane while Tuckahoe voters can head to the school library on Magee Street. Polls will be open from from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m.

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What is "narrow" about those results? 1599-977? People have obviously spoken, so now listen and devise another plan. Please, no more votes on this
By srk (15), southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:17 PM
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The Tuckahoe district merger vote passed, and the Southampton vote failed. So in actuality more people voted yes.
By Y2KBUG (11), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:24 PM
Your numbers are wrong. It was narrow.
By Construction (1), Westhampton on Nov 18, 14 9:35 PM
Where do you get your numbers from? It lost by 94 votes out of over 2000. No doubt the state will find a way to get this done, it might just take a little longer, and the incentives will be gone.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:42 PM
Sorry Lamm tax districts are done by referendum in this country the supreme court has said that over, and over. Believe me I know dozens of people that didn't even vote on this that are against it. This is a democracy the people have spoken.
No doubt these slippery morons will take another shot at it, but this time concerned people in Southampton will band together, and send a flyer of their own explaining the real numbers not Dr Farinas fuzzy math.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:54 PM
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No, you are incorrect about redistricting, the state has the power to do so. Time will tell though. Either way, we will all survive, and you will be $300 richer, so don't you worry.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:46 PM
Well of course Tuckahoe wanted it. It is all about reducing their property taxes. It's NOT about the kids, no matter how they all try to spin it that way.
By East End 2 (151), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 5:47 AM
LOL, the real numbers will be much, much worse.
By East End 2 (151), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 5:48 AM
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And so it goes: the richest of Southampton south of the highway have decided the fate of the hundreds of children and families in our local community. Thank you, while you leave your second home behind, and move on with your lives. Thanks. Hope you feel good about yourselves. Very giving, loving, folks you are. Enjoy your money. It's clearly what you value most. #1066 #SouthamptonAssociation
By Shinnecock Hills family (59), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:21 PM
Do you actually think those people even cared to vote though? Probably not, too pretentious to even care, too busy living the high life in NYC.
By Y2KBUG (11), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:26 PM
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The South of the Highway crowd is long gone and isn't even aware of these continuing local referendums. They don't care if school taxes go up. They pay $45M for a house, tear it down and build a $65M house in its place. They don't give a rat's buttocks over a $300-400 tax increase. It's the local residents who voted on this. I've heard some real whoppers claiming "city people's fault" for things, but this takes the cake.
By btdt (449), water mill on Nov 18, 14 10:13 PM
The majority of the Southampton Association does not vote out here. In fact, very few of its members ever have. This vote went down because a great many year round people here do not believe the numbers given out by the school district.
By oystercatcher (126), southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:23 PM
south of highway NYCers are not registered voters out here and had absolutely nothing to do with this vote. Maybe ....gasp ... the Teachers Union can come forward with some ...wait for it.. concessions on health care and defined benefit pensions, which none of the voters in private industry have ..to help the children
By GALAXIE (43), SAG HARBOR on Nov 19, 14 7:59 PM
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@srk: you CLEARLY are not from around here, and/or never attended one community info meeting. The numbers from the 2districts do NOT get combined. #moreignorance
By Shinnecock Hills family (59), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:24 PM
What were the numbers in the Southampton district? where did 1599 come from?

By metsfan2 (163), southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:25 PM
Just what is the Southampton Association for?
By metsfan2 (163), southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:30 PM
So now we are going to blame the "City People" for the failure of the vote. Firstly most of those people vote in their primary districts not in Southampton. That being said those 'City People" pay the largest share of school taxes, and usually have no kids going to school! Why didn't the proponents of the merger propose a merger with the tax structure staying the same? Because you want everyone to pay your kids education tab, and want no cuts at Tuckahoe with the 14 kids to a class.
How much ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 18, 14 9:48 PM
You live in a strange place chief. Look at the districts around you. Southampton has it pretty good, tax-wise. This vote against the merger is just another example of people voting against their own self-interests. Watch now, as your taxes begin to creep up in any case, now that money from Tuckahoe is likely to bleed away. The funds needed will either come from raising taxes or from cuts that undercut academics. Tuckahoe has it bad, yes, but no one was saying that Southampton had it easy. Could ...more
By Rickenbacker (257), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:04 PM
Moving tuckahoe students to Westhampton would certainly be a vote against self interest.It costs 40000 to educate a student in Southampton and Tuckahoe pays about 23000 to send their students to Southampton High School.You already are being subsidized.
By Spendthrift (4), southampton on Nov 19, 14 1:52 PM
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Well, everyone saw the budget projections for the next 10 years or so ...remember those numbers Southampton, you'll be wishing it had passed.
By local resident 10 (19), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 18, 14 9:51 PM
So because our family and friends that live here year round scrounge and scrape together money to pay the taxes, that means we're wealthy cause we voted no??? NO!!! It's means that the majority that voted no can't afford to pay their taxes to begin with, yet you want them to add to their taxes? If the locals could afford to pay their taxes with no problems then they would have voted yes. No one was voting against the children because they don't want them to be together. It's simply because ...more
By NorthSeaNative (34), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:04 PM
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Southampton voters did not want a merger. The vote at the machines at the school confirmed that the people out here don't want it. THe absentee votes just made the winning margin a little larger. It's time to move on. And blaming other people who pay taxes just like everyone else is the sign of sore losers. It was a fair vote. Let's move on to fixing the problems at the Southampton District.
By localcitizen (110), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:10 PM
Yet, with all the money spent per student in Southampton (one of the highest anywhere -nearing that of annual college tuition) you would think that it would be much more of an academic powerhouse
By itsamazing (224), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:16 PM
My apologies, I clearly misread the vote count, (my stupidity of course) but my point still stands...it's been voted down yet again. Sorry
By srk (15), southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:16 PM
Older people on fixed incomes and the disabled can't afford it, either. How many children will be in the 2-3 bedroom high density, 50 unit, housing project approved for Tuckahoe? Were those costs calculated in the merged budget?
By QuietLife (61), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:25 PM
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. “I am personally disappointed with the outcome, but now it is time for us to really start concentrating on student achievement and increasing our performance in Southampton.”.... Thanks so much, Farina. It's about time you and your staff did just that. Move along, now just be glad Southampton didn't get even more over it's head. First things first, Farina.
By Lets go mets (377), Southampton on Nov 18, 14 10:36 PM
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It is important to remember Southampton school officials and board members represent Southampton property owners. School districts all over the state face troubling times.None can expect other district's taxpayers to pay more than their fair share. Now is the time for leadership in Tuckahoe to emerge and think creatively. Shared services, lower administrative costs, expanded tuition options, more stringent control on illegal students. The state is NOT stepping in, that is a Thiele/LaValle election ...more
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Nov 18, 14 10:50 PM
So Scott Farina is working out for you? What's the story.? A merger would have been good for the students. .win win..kids need a school. Community needs a school . Keep it real. talk, commmm-munnnn-nicaaaaa--iton. Do it for the future of the kids.
Nov 18, 14 10:54 PM appended by Woods woman
So Scott Farina isn't working out for you? What's the story..EH wants to know. IMHO I would go merge. It's about kids getting the best the can get. Communities need schools. Get behind your school and combine resources and ditch the vanities!
By Woods woman (145), East hampton on Nov 18, 14 10:54 PM
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Farina said:
" now it is time for us to really start concentrating on student achievement and increasing our performance in Southampton.”
Oh, silly me. I thought we paid these slugs 200 grand a year to focus on student achievement! You mean, that hasn't been the focus? How do I tell that to my son trying to get into a competitive college: That his transcript is lacking because the school superintendent I pay for has been focused on helping out another school district? Hello?
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Nov 18, 14 11:11 PM
"Now, our board will come together and meet with our community to figure out our next step, and start planning for our children for next year to make sure they get the quality education they deserve.”

So said Superintendent Dyer, who is leaving the district and announced as much BEFORE the vote. Talk about a rat jumping off the sinking ship!
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Nov 19, 14 12:00 AM
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People don't want higher taxes. Period. Democracy doesn't mean you keep voting until the district gets the outcome it wants. Deal with it.
By Liman (30), Montauk on Nov 19, 14 7:01 AM
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Perhaps Tuckahoe will consider bringing Westhampton back as a viable option for Tuckahoe taxpayers who want a CHOICE as to where they want to spend THEIR money.
By Infoseeker (280), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 14 7:42 AM
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A regional high school sounds wonderful. We need to take control of our own destiny, and put forward an idea that doesn't leave our future in the hands of larger districts. If other small tuition paying districts (and the reservation) take our tuition dollars elsewhere and join forces we can create a regional high that works for US.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 7:45 AM
Although that option has been tossed around as part of the political rhetoric, funding a new regional high school would be far more expensive than the current model.
By coach (4), Westhampton Beach on Nov 19, 14 8:14 AM
Keep in mind we are typical hard working middle class people too and without a high school in our district. We had a choice where our kids could go to high school until SH was given the exclusive a few years ago.. Many of us were ok with it since we live closer and our kids were making friends with SH Kids through sport teams etc. However, since the SH community has shown that they don't care about us when we are struggling why must they be guaranteed our tuition money? Let's move on Tuckahoe.
By Infoseeker (280), Hampton Bays on Nov 19, 14 7:49 AM
People don't want higher taxes BUT guess what its going to happen like it or not so grow up up or move into a cardboard box. Tuckahoe School may change some day but STOP telling us to go somewhere else when we live here too! Why don't you go some where else if you hate it so much. We are willing do whatever needs to be done for our community, school & kids to be one not tear it appart. There are two guaranteened things to happen in this lifetime: EVERYONES TAXES WILL GO UP! & We All will die some ...more
By mychildmatters (70), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 19, 14 7:54 AM
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Isn't a big part of the tax issue in Tuckahoe because of 4 golf courses in that district? I would think the focus should be on on fixing that "issue".
By sandydog21 (195), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 7:54 AM
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This whole thing is about Tuckahoe not wanting to pay high taxes. When residents moved to Tuckahoe they knew what the taxes were, but were in love with the idea of sending their children to a school with 12 kids in a class. That's great that they have a nice little exclusive school, but there is no talk of cuts or belt tightening. They want another district to pay for it, and will scream its for the kids. No its not for the kids, because if you wanted the best education you would send your kids ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 19, 14 8:00 AM
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DO IT FOR THE KIDS DO IT FOR THE COMMUNITY MY KIDS NEED AN EDUCATION AT TUCKAHOE.............but can southampton pay for it?
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 19, 14 8:03 AM
20 years ago a good friend of ours, a single mom, bought a house in Tuckahoe specifically to send her son to school there. Back then it was THE place to go for a great elem. experience. Small class size, great teachers, reasonable taxes. 10 years ago they added a whole 2nd. floor on. You would think that a project of that magnitude wouldn't have been approved if the financial future looked bleak. What the heck happened since then? Tuckahoe's problems didn't happen over night, and the golf courses ...more
By Tealied (1), Water mill on Nov 19, 14 9:29 AM
Exactly, the Tuckahoe taxpayers are paying for their children to go there or for their single family renters...they are in fact paying for the extra children from illegals whom aren't paying taxes for their children that are living several families per home...it's not fair to the taxpayer to be over burdened so that the law abiding families and children suffer...it's tiring to hear that it's the fault of the golf courses, second home owners, the rich etc...it's being disingenuous...people need to ...more
By NorthSeaNative (34), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 11:09 AM
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i thought there was a change in the way the golf courses were taxed. The homeowner pays the taxes. The renter does not pay the property taxes.. If the homeowner rents to multiple families that seems to be another issue on occupancy and zoning regulations.
By metsfan2 (163), southampton on Nov 19, 14 10:29 AM
The Southampton School administration should be removed for gross in competence for even recommending this absurd merger proposal.At $ 40,000 per student we should have the brightest,best educated students in the nation.What we have are the highest paid administrators and teachers with below average student achievment.Get your priorities in order and teach and leave mergers and financial engineering to Wall Street.
By Spendthrift (4), southampton on Nov 19, 14 11:02 AM
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Let's not be silly here. One school district CANNOT impose themselves and their costly financial situation upon another without the other district's CONSENT. Put the shoe on the other foot and imagine that Bridgehampton forced a merger upon Tuckahoe. That's not going to happen, is it? This almost passed. In fact, I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND that the mail-in absentee ballots be carefully examined for FRAUDULENT and unqualified voters. I think you'll find there will be quite a few.
By Dodger (161), Southampton Village on Nov 19, 14 11:56 AM
I think both SH and T district parents should read the opinion of Martin Cantor, "School Consolidation and The Game Theory." You may be very surprised.
By QuietLife (61), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 12:25 PM
I'd be interested to know how much renovation to both schools would be necessary should there be a merger. That was not discussed. The expansion of Southampton's Elementary school was designed for smaller kids who would be sent to Tuckahoe if a merger eventually goes through, and Tuckahoe would need alterations to accommodate only small children. Changes would have to be made, but at what cost? The school boards need to show all the costs a merger would entail, not just the proposed cost of running ...more
By oystercatcher (126), southampton on Nov 19, 14 1:35 PM
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Good points, oystercatcher. The details are very important to the taxpayers. The size of the cafeteria tables may need to be changed, and usually young elementary classrooms have bathrooms within the classroom. Will renovations be needed? What is the cost? If there is to be nap time, when the younger children place mats on the floor, is there enough floor space to accommodate the number of students in a classroom? What is the projected number of students, considering the high density projects that ...more
By QuietLife (61), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 3:51 PM
It's hard to tell from these comments but you may not realize that the vote has been held. It was defeated. The cafeteria tables shall remain the exact same size and no additional floor space for place mats will be necessary. Sweet relief.
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Nov 19, 14 4:38 PM
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Kevin- the Southampton School District cannot even handle it's responsibilities as they stand right now. We see a disgusting amount of overspending and waste at every level of our government. So the fact that there are people who recognize that our local system should not partake in such fiscal problems is just that-sweet relief.
By Lets go mets (377), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 7:06 PM
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The merger issue is not going away. That in mind, taxpayers deserve to be told what sort of renovations would be needed and how much it would cost to adapt two schools to different size children. One example, both will have to remodel bathrooms. Tuckahoe will need smaller toilets and sinks, Southampton will need larger ones. What else will have to be done?
By oystercatcher (126), southampton on Nov 20, 14 9:41 AM
HOW ABOUT WE GET THE ILLEGALS TO PAY FOR THEIR KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL HERE? THINK THAT WOULD HELP?
By LovedHerTown (132), southampton on Nov 19, 14 5:10 PM
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I understand that any child regardless of legal status is entitled to an education and school districts must take these children in. Further, Tuckahoe has been under the power of long time board member who is distancing from the issue at hand, ie., NO MONEY. Southampton is foolish to think this vote will NOT fracture the kids who call Southampton home. regardless of the district's intentions all these kids live in "Southampton" and now are left in limbo with their schooling and their friendships. ...more
By xtiego (698), bridgehampton on Nov 19, 14 7:10 PM
We need to re-address the principle behind our "obligation" to have US taxpayers pay for the education of illegal immigrants. Charities can pick up that slack, or illegals can return home. Does a US citizen have an obligation to provide a non-US citizen with a free education ? Why? Why stop at illegals inside our borders- doesn't our obligation extend to Ciudad Juarez on the other side of the border too? Why penalize poor children who didn't have the money to pay the human smugglers to get across ...more
By GALAXIE (43), SAG HARBOR on Nov 19, 14 8:16 PM
bingo!
It's the US taxpayers that need to be educated.
By loading... (601), quiogue on Nov 19, 14 9:40 PM
Spendthrift, you can spend $100,000 per student, but achievement will not be raised until the local families become more involved in their children's education and stop blaming the schools for all their kids issues.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 19, 14 9:57 PM
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lamm.Sounds like you are one of those overpaid school administrators.The issue was a stupid and costly merger,supported by the Southampton School District,with no benefit to the education of the children.
By Spendthrift (4), southampton on Nov 20, 14 10:31 AM
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Spendthrift, your comment was beyond moronic....I am just trying to point out that issues with children learning go way beyond what a school alone is capable of. If you spent any time actually in the school, you would realize that the kids who do well, take advanced classes, etc. are those whose parents are involved and actually show up on the minimally attended parent teacher conferences. No, I have nothing to do with the school, but I am one of those involved parents.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 11:29 AM
It's funny how the administration has brainwashed students about this merger, and let students have a sit in. This is a public school to learn not a place for protests. Here is another fine example of Dr Farina and cohorts having no control over education. How are students going to learn when this administration has put its resources to an unwanted merger?
If this failure to merge means Tuckahoe students can go to Westhampton High School than this is a huge win for Tuckahoe. Westhampton ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 20, 14 8:22 AM
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As a resident of Tuckahoe I would politely request that you stop insulting my neighbors. They are very good families who are guilty of nothing more than holding different beliefs that you. If, 2 days later, you are waking up and by 8:22am are so filled with anger that you need to denigrate the students of Southampton, the parents of Southampton, every resident of Tuckahoe and the administration of both schools it would seem you have a lot more issues than the non-event that was the merger. There ...more
By KevinLuss (356), SH on Nov 20, 14 9:34 AM
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I agree chief, it would be great if WH was bought back as an option. But in the long run, Westhampton is just as expensive as Southampton. If I had my way, my neighbors would vote to pierce the cap and bring everything back to the way it was a few years ago, a great neighborhood school with a choice for high school. Even if our taxes went up $1000 a year, we would still be very low compared to the rest of long island, but we would make it up in property value. We've had a very difficult time ...more
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 11:36 AM
Wow Kevin what a surprise you live in Tuckahoe and you want lower taxes.
Nobody is denigrating anyone Kevin I am getting ready for the next straw vote, and every vote after that until the non democracy school board gets what they want. I'm appalled when 30 to 40k is spent on education and we have mediocre results. Where is the sit in from parents demanding results? How is the illegal housing issue being handled by Tuckahoe? If this merger goes through how will Tuckahoe cut? Kevin how about ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 20, 14 10:39 AM
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Chief, you still chewing up these boards? My friend, you really need to find a hobby. By the way, your short-sightedness has probably just earned you a big tax increase. See my post below.
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Nov 20, 14 6:37 PM
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As usual you know very little about the facts. Southampton would have to contribute 9 million from its infrastructure fund which is unacceptable to lower taxes for Tuckahoe. Tuckahoe has dug a pit, and too this day they have no idea how to cut costs. We would all love to have 10 to 18 kids in each classroom like Tuckahoe, but that comes at a huge cost.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 24, 14 10:31 AM
I believe Tuckahoe has about the same spending per student as Southampton. Southampton is three times the size, and spending should be less. In the long run though, every single piece of data will show that larger school districts spend less, and spending is in no way tied to test score results. Mergers all over the island should be taking place. The problem in our area is that Southampton taxes are so ridiculously low that they will never want to merge with any other district that doesn't offer ...more
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 11:45 AM
Isn't it time for both districts to cut costs? Most of the money goes to administrators and for building structures that aren't crucial to education. I think the sense of entitlement that pervades the Southampton District is a poor message to give the students. Even in an Ivy League school you can't take every course you want to take. Some adjustments and compromises need to be made. Is that such a bad message? To learn to deal with the situation at hand. Children lobbying about taxes is ...more
By localcitizen (110), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 12:50 PM
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The children aren't lobbying for taxes, they're lobbying for community and friendship. I would NEVER tell my child not to do that. Remember also that those lobbying are likely repeating what's being said in their household, a household that does pay taxes. Some voted this year, and more will all be at the polls next year, and the year after, and they have as much right to an opinion as you do.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 1:42 PM
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A student parroting school administration talking points is pathetic! Of course they want increased taxes and salaries and district consolidation, they have been fed that line of malarkey and regurgitate it on demand like trained seals, Bueno, Bueno!!!!!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 20, 14 3:44 PM
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The children were indoctrinated in the school and that, my friend, is improper.
The assumption that you have to go to the same school to be part of the community is ludicrous. How about those kids who go to parochial school but live next door to a student at the Southampton Schools? The community is bigger than the Southampton Schools students. And, some in the community feel they have no business taking on the tax burden of another district. When people buy property, they have a right to ...more
By localcitizen (110), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 4:15 PM
I haven't seen or heard of a single thing coming from the school to the students regarding the merger. Information that the kids have was likely provided by their parents and friends. I hope there is not another vote either, whatever is going to happen needs to happen, more votes keep Tuckahoe school families and kids in limbo.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 7:02 PM
My daughter came home from school at SHS and said on a few occasions that the principle was encouraging the students to get their parents family and friends to vote for the merger...we didn't talk about it at home.
By NorthSeaNative (34), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 10:14 PM
Hey, Southampton, you have just bitten the hand that feeds you. Tuckahoe taxpayers have paid you tens of millions of dollars in tuition fees - these dollars, paid for by Tuckahoe residents (who pay a rate over 3x what you do) will now likely disappear. How do you think Southampton will make up for those lost funds?

You just voted down a miniscule tax increase in exchange for a much larger one! If those gutless board members and parents at Tuckahoe had any courage, they'd stop sending ...more
By witch hazel (224), tatooine on Nov 20, 14 6:34 PM
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I totally agree with you Witch Hazel...time to move on. There's a board member with a child in Southampton High who has asked other kids to sacrifice and get pulled out of Westhampton (thankfully it never came to that). Now let's see if he will dare ask his own child to sacrifice.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 7:06 PM
Back in the day student "sit-ins" meant something. In this case it means "brown-nosers." Southampton kids protesting because they want their parents to pay MORE taxes! Take their iPhones away and see how they'll vote.
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Nov 20, 14 9:15 PM
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Witch: we pay 1/3 your taxes and their is a two 2% salary cap. Do you comprehend any of this?
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Nov 20, 14 9:17 PM
Who are they "brown nosing" to? If the district were behind the sit in, it would have taken place before the vote, not after. The sit in was to show their disappointment in the adults, and whether or not you agree with them, they should be encouraged to stand up for what they feel is right. If Tuckahoe survives another three or four years, these 600 kids will have voting rights and will still likely not pay taxes...but will have the power to shift a future vote in a different direction.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 20, 14 10:10 PM
600 kids? stop Lamm, you're hysterical. A couple dozen sheep. If they protested the other way Farina would have had them suspended. They'll still be living at home in four years sucking up the OBamaCare. Once they are really on their own? NO to all new taxes.
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Nov 20, 14 11:11 PM
You are clearly out of touch with reality naz.
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 21, 14 7:45 AM
Actually NAZZ is spot on! Voting to increase your taxes is truly out of touch. If you feel so strongly I'm sure Tuckahoe District would be happy to accept any cash donations you might provide them!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Nov 21, 14 7:56 AM
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So I guess half your community is out of touch!
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 22, 14 10:53 PM
The best part of the whole merger is they will lower Tuckahoes taxes by taking 9 million out of the infrastructure account of Southampton that we borrowed, and paid for! After that money is gone Southamptons taxes will go thru the roof. There is no way Tuckahoes taxes will be cut by more than half, and Southampton will be static. They will keep taxes low by borrowing folks, and indebting Southampton school into bankruptcy. It's funny how Southampton sent us a fact sheet, and forgot to mention taxes ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 21, 14 8:56 AM
Not Tuckahoe's problem, we have no debt at least!
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 21, 14 10:21 AM
Ironically the debt was taken on to expand the school for Tuckahoe students.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 21, 14 11:56 AM
What was expanded for Tuckahoe?
By lamm (304), Southampton on Nov 22, 14 12:44 AM
Why would the school board hold a k-12 award ceremony on the same night as the merger vote and in the same building?
By Crixus (4), Southampton on Nov 22, 14 12:54 PM
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They hold an awards ceremony and a "soup night" to get parents to the school so they can cajole them into voting for the merger. Just more of the incredibly improper behavior by school officials. Check out the first page of the student newspaper that quotes the head of the high school saying he will continue to work for a merger. Again, it's time to move on. I would hope the head of the high school would be working to improve the education of the students. There are serious problems at the high ...more
By localcitizen (110), Southampton on Nov 22, 14 3:56 PM
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34 kids didn't meet the state math, and English, and they graduated? Why wasn't that mentioned on the monthly BS letter from the school of how great things are? Time to clean house at Southampton schools.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Nov 24, 14 10:34 AM
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Sounds Like Dumb and Dumber Tree
By nazznazz (276), east hampton on Nov 23, 14 2:56 PM