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Dec 21, 2009 4:17 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zappone to be appointed deputy supervisor of Southampton Town

Dec 21, 2009 4:17 PM

Frank Zappone, a retired public school administrator, will be the next deputy supervisor of Southampton Town.

Mr. Zappone, 63, of Shinnecock Hills, said he accepted the $30,000 part-time job earlier this month and will serve under Supervisor-elect Anna Throne-Holst beginning January 1, the date she takes office. Mr. Zappone will be formally appointed at a Town Board organizational meeting on January 5.

“I think he is a real asset to the community,” Ms. Throne-Holst said. “He brings a wealth of experience and knowledge about the community and management in general.”

Mr. Zappone will take the place of Deputy Supervisor Bill Jones, who did not earn a salary as deputy supervisor under outgoing-Supervisor Linda Kabot. Mr. Jones earns a $107,100 salary as director of human services.

Mr. Zappone is married with three children and met Ms. Throne-Holst through his work with the Shinnecock-Tuckahoe Civic Advisory Committee, which he chaired from 2006 to 2009, he said. Mr. Zappone went on to serve as an advisor to Ms. Throne-Holst during her campaign for town supervisor this year.

From 1999 to 2003, Mr. Zappone was a middle school principal in the Lakeland Central School District. He has never held public office. He said he hopes to improve public outreach at Southampton Town and increase the “efficiency and economy” of town operations.

“If we are not about providing public service then we are not doing our job,” Mr. Zappone said.

Bryan Finlayson

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Is it customary for a new Supervisor to appoint a new Deputy Supervisor? My reason for asking is that Mr. Zappone's predecessor, Bill Jones, is the ONLY PUBLIC OFFICIAL IN SOUTHAMPTON TOWN to have had the temerity to confront the imperious STPD PBA since former Supervisor Linda Kabot was humiliated by the them in 2008.

We expect nothing from incoming Supervisor Linda Throne-Holst, since she is STPD's creature. However, if Mr Zappone emulates his patron, there will not be a single voice ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 19, 09 3:26 AM
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That is a true and scary thought, but really nothing more than what is routine for the blue guard.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 19, 09 3:41 AM
On the flip side, there is no reason to get physical with anybody over a budget.

I don't disagree with some of your sentiment. However, your last paragraph is a waste of bytes. I could easily postulate that Mr. Jones is a timebomb waiting to explode. However, I think you have the monopoly on speculation.

I have asked to be shown the numbers before. It is easy to sum up PD salaries and say "we'll save all this money". Nobody seems to want to calculate what the cost to train ...more
By diy_guy (101), Southampton on Dec 19, 09 9:53 AM
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If the incoming Town Board capitulates to the PD's desire for the less days, more hours request, all is lost! Just ask Westhampton Beach how that has worked out!
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Dec 19, 09 10:31 AM
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The more you harp on the issue of the cost of the Town Police the more you display your lack of knowledge on the issue.....I just received my tax bill, I currently pay $7.83 a week to the Town of Southampton for services from it's Police Department. The fact is, that people spend more on their morning coffee than they do on 24/7 police protection.
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 19, 09 11:01 AM
Are you referring to the dutch blue guards? I think they haven't been around since the 18th century.
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 19, 09 11:02 AM
Bayman1
Actually I should have put praetorian guard. Others & I have posted of the similarities with shpd as king makers within the town. I guess the chief did not check out what the rank & file thought of the retirement list he sent to the town board. So who is really in charge here ?
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 19, 09 3:24 PM
He probably did not care
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 20, 09 2:44 AM
This can be costed out and I would think the PD has the necessary data. I would think that OT generated at the end of a shift will not change to any degree as crime for the most part is just as likely to occur at the end of an eight hour tour as it is at the end of a twelve. With 155 appearences on a 12 hour chart as opposed to 232 appearances on an 8 hour chart (before sick and vacation time) the occurence of OT on a call back day becomes an issue as it would be 33% likier to be called back ...more
By North of Highway (280), Westhampton Beach on Dec 21, 09 11:38 AM
I completely agree with Bayman. I pay more to the fire department and school district in taxes than the STPD. So maybe we should start protesting about the children in schools and the men and women that rush into our burning homes. Give me a break.
By aschor06 (9), Sag Harbor on Dec 21, 09 2:01 PM
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The old "cup of coffee" argument.

This is a tired old argument that gets dragged out for every school expansion, every library expansion, essentially every tax increase.

$7.83 / week is over $400 dollars each year, and that is for you, and every neighbor on the block, in every hamlet throughout the town. Of course for some homes that is more, some less, depending on the assessed value.

All together it is a lot of money for policing a town which has the least crime ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Dec 22, 09 11:31 AM
HHS...I see you are vocally anti-police. Why so much attention to the Police who spend their lives, shed their tears and blood to protect the society we live in, but you however, have nary a word of ill towards the skyrocketing cost of EDUCATION...???

At the price we pay for our school taxes, our children should all be accepted to ivy league colleges and become rhode shcolars...

Why is there such a disparate cost of education in our lovely community compared to say Northern Cambria, ...more
By JackC574 (21), Southampton on Dec 23, 09 6:59 AM
I had the pleasure of serving with Frank while we both sat on the Town Transportation Commission. I have also had great fun "crossing swords" with Frank on our very different political views; however, this is one very bright man with a lot of good ideas and a teriffic sense of fair play. Ms. Throne-Holst has made a very smart pick and one that should serve her--and the Town--very well. I wish Frank the very best--and look forward to even more "discussions" across the party lines.
By Capt. Phil (64), Southampton on Dec 19, 09 9:58 AM
Congratulations Frank on your appointment,hope you will work to restore civility to Town government and that you will mix with the regular people,Chris
By Etians rd (543), Southampton on Dec 19, 09 1:06 PM
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By Etians rd (543), Southampton on Dec 19, 09 1:06 PM
To diy_guy:

The only public data available is the salary chart which shows that new hires in the STPD earn 1/3 the salary of a twenty year plus officer who should no longer be on the job, according to his contract.

Bureaucracies do not advertise their administrative overhead, but the expense incurred in adding a new patrolman will occur no matter when he is hired. The sooner the hire, the sooner the salary saving in that year and in succeeding years.

Were I Bill Jones, ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 19, 09 2:28 PM
highhatsize
Have you seen the article "Southampton republican party screen candidates for vacant seat" ? William Hughes a SHPD lieutenant is thinking of retiring and would like to continue servicing the town. I think if a retired SHPD lieutenant were to be on the board, it would really start to have a praetorian flavor.























By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 19, 09 6:49 PM
Well the praetorian's certainly had much better uniforms. I like the helmet especially. Do Town Police lieutenants where that now?
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 20, 09 2:43 AM
What highhat never posts here, is that Southampton Town and Westhampton Beach are the ONLY two police departments throughout New York state that have this provision in the portion of the retirement law that covers them. In any other police department, one need not worry about being the target of a political vendetta as was the case here. It is not a "contractual" issue, it is part of the retirement law, THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ENFORCED BY NYS STATE RETIREMENT, OR THE TOWN OF SOUTHAMPTON. Indeed the ...more
By Terry (380), Southampton on Dec 19, 09 5:54 PM
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To Terry:

Actually, Linda Kabot DID put the proposal of retiring six cops who had served more than twenty years and whom the Chief of Police declared to be superfluous on the agenda for a Town Council meeting in 2008. The STPD PDA got wind of it and ordered the rank and file to mob the Town Council meeting, IN UNIFORM. Thusly intimidated, the Council tabled the proposal without discussion. The Town Council's, "pleasure", to which you refer, was coerced.

You are quite right, only ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 19, 09 7:44 PM
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Westhampton Beach is a village, not a Town.

In your world, should Police Officers prohibited form exercising their Constitutional rights?

If it was tabled without discussion, perhaps that is because there was no support for it beyond Linda Kabot, and the Chief.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Dec 20, 09 10:03 AM
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hattootight says:

I don't like cops who use their uniforms to bully citizens and their elected representatives

You don't like cops. PERIOD.

The 2008 town board meeting was infamous in your eyes only, blinded as they may be.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Dec 20, 09 12:53 PM
Mine also - I wasn't there but it is on the Town's website. Its nothing like the NYPD police riot of September 16 1992 when an out of control group of police officers actually stormed City Hall in New York city and then shut down the Brooklyn Bridge, but the same underlying attempt at intimidation was there.
By North of Highway (280), Westhampton Beach on Dec 21, 09 4:01 PM
Not in uniform. Free speech is a private right. Wearing the uniform was an effort to augment private speech with a public display of force and intimidation.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Dec 22, 09 11:37 AM
Highhatsize
I believe the union showed up in force to come out against the proposal by the Town Board, wether or not they were intimidated or actually concurred with the PBA's rationale behind not forcing those officers to retire, it seems only the Town Board members can answer, but you may know better, I suspect not. As for police officers being in police uniform, I don't see the rationale being having a problem with that, otherwise how do you distinguish between a policeman and the guy works ...more
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 20, 09 2:22 AM
To Terry,Bayman1, diy-guy:

Wearing one's uniform off-duty is NOT a constitutionally protected right, in part because of the intimidation factor. (A reprimand of a deputy sheriff for appearing on TV in uniform without the sheriff's approval did not violate the First Amendment. Belch v. Jefferson Co., 108 F.Supp.2d 143.) If the Town regs. do not presently state that a cop has to receive the approval of the Chief of Police to wear his uniform when off-duty, it should be incorporated into ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 20, 09 2:26 PM
To return to the above news story, tiresome as that may be for some, Frank Zappone is a great pick as Deputy Supervisor, and I wish him all the best.
By Turkey Bridge (1979), Quiogue on Dec 20, 09 4:50 PM
Highhatsize,
I responded to your assertion that officer Gwinn should have been reprimanded for being in uniform. As for a specific law that prevents off-duty officers from wearing their uniforms in town board meetings; there in is not one that I know of, nor was I implying that there was. However, activity taken on behalf of a union by one of it's representatives, which officer Gwinn is as union vice-president, is protected under the Taylor Law. I won't do your homework for you so if you care ...more
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 20, 09 5:35 PM
To Bayman1,

I do not normally request citations to authority from posters since everyone is equally able to do the research. However, in your case, you previously asked me for a citation to the Town reg. that required STPD officers to retire after twenty years. I complied. One should not ask others for diligence that one is not prepared to perform oneself.

Additionally, you seem to have misunderstood my post. I asked you for a citation to the state law to which you referred ...more
By highhatsize (4217), San Francisco on Dec 20, 09 6:07 PM
To Bayman1,

I do not normally request citations to authority from posters since everyone is equally able to do the research. However, in your case, you previously asked me for a citation to the Town reg. that required STPD officers to retire after twenty years. I complied. One should not ask others for diligence that one is not prepared to perform oneself.

Additionally, you seem to have misunderstood my post. I asked you for a citation to the state law to which you referred ...more
By highhatsize (4217), San Francisco on Dec 20, 09 6:15 PM
Highhatsize,
Thank you for your previous citation of the Town Code. It's posting proved that the legal foundation for that action by the town board was due to NY Sate Law and not due to STPD cops being "hired under contracts that state that they will retire after 20 years" (That was your quote) There is one contract between the PBA and the Town, no more than one. It seems you were confused or misinformed or didn't care that your information was not entirely accurate. In any case, you disproved ...more
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 20, 09 7:34 PM
To Bayman1:

I cite federal case law that holds a police officers to have no Constitutional right to appear in uniform off-duty. You provide no opposite citation.

I cite the section of Town regulations that states that police officers must retire after twenty years. You respond with an objection to the word "contractual" as opposed to what(?), legal? Meaning?

Federal law supersedes contrary state law. (14th Amendment) Ergo, police officers have no right to appear in ...more
By highhatsize (4217), San Francisco on Dec 21, 09 2:48 AM
"I cite the section of Town regulations that states that police officers must retire after twenty years. "

It is state retirement law, not town law. And you will not find the word "must" in there until it refers to a PO attaining the age of 55.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 11:50 AM
Highhatsize,
I made no reference to or defense of the constitution being the foundation for any actions, because I did not comment on it, I believe Terry did. I haven't done any research on the case you cite, nor will I, but your argument is faulty; the REPRIMAND is what was contested on constitutional grounds, not the wearing of the uniform. It seems that you imply that based on that case an officer could never wear a uniform off duty, not so.
Under NY state law a police officer is on ...more
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 21, 09 5:35 AM
In answer to highhatsize's question "Is it customary for a new Supervisor to appoint a new Deputy Supervisor?", I think Skip Heaney did that when he appointed Robert Ross.
By baywoman (165), southampton on Dec 21, 09 1:27 PM
To Bayman1:

A police officer MAY wear his uniform off duty but he has no RIGHT to do so. The STPD cops appearance en masse in uniform was an abuse of that privilege. An authoritative Town Council would have expelled them and told them to dress in civvies if they wanted to attend. This would probably have resulted in a confrontation between the STPD PBA and the Town Board. It is long ovedue.

Moreover, you have once again, (actually, twice again), refused to provide any references ...more
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 21, 09 2:31 PM
To Terry:

No, you are wrong. It is a Town reg. I have posted the relevant language earlier. The Town reg states that an STPD officers employment terminates after twenty years.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 21, 09 2:34 PM
What do you drink and where can I send it?
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 21, 09 2:37 PM
Highhatsize,
The Town resolution that you cited is based on the State Retirement law, 384-d(m) I believe. The Town cannot have it's own law on retirement because public employees draw their pensions from the state, unless of course there is a corresponding state provision, as it is in this case. So, you both are right, but the Town would have no basis for the resolution without the state law.
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 21, 09 3:18 PM
To Bayman1 & Terry:

The prime difference between the state law and the Town code is that the state law authorizes a police department employee to retire after twenty years but the Town code makes it mandatory.
By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 21, 09 4:17 PM
Interesting point, I did not realize that. Thank you for pointing that out!
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 21, 09 8:34 PM
On another topic, who is paying Mr. Zappone's $30K salary? His predecessor was already on the town payroll and so received no salary as Deputy Supervisor.

Is his pay coming from the Town or from Ms. Throne-Holst?

By highhatsize (4217), East Quogue on Dec 21, 09 4:52 PM
I am privileged to know Frank Zappone and to have the experience working with him on various issues. I could not think of a better Dep Supv. $30,000 annual salary means he'll probably get paid about 50 cents an hour.
By number19 (111), Westhampton on Dec 23, 09 3:14 PM
Just got to say I've worked with Frank for the three years he was chair with the SH,T,ShHills CAC. I think he's a good man but a little naive about how things really work in Government. I am also deeply disapointed that at his last meeting as chair of the CAC he did not share his plans for the future with the people he had been working with even though we would surely be working with a new deputy supervisor in the future.
I do think he is a perfect match for the new supervisor. I hope the repuublican ...more
By Bob Schepps (77), Southampton on Dec 23, 09 8:26 PM