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Dec 21, 2009 3:39 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

East End still digging out after record snow

Editor's Note: UPDATE: Southampton, Hampton Bays, Remsenburg-Speonk and Montauk school districts are closed today, Tuesday, December 22, and Westhampton Beach, East Hampton, Sag Harbor, Sagaponack and Bridgehampton school districts have two-hour delayed openings. Amagansett School opens at 10 a.m. today.
Dec 21, 2009 3:39 PM

Residents and highway crews spent most of Sunday trying to dig out after one of the biggest snowfalls in years, working to clear up to 24 inches of fallen snow and drifts topping out higher than 5 feet in many parts of the East End.

Southampton Town Highway Superintendent Bill Masterson reported that in the Bridgehampton area some drifts were as high as 10 feet, and several highway department vehicles actually got stuck in the snow on Saturday night.

Under the command of the highway superintendent, 40 town employees were out plowing, backed by 20 private contractors.

On Sunday afternoon, teachers in the Southampton School District learned via e-mail that their schools would be closed on Monday, December 21. In fact, most East End schools are expected to be closed that day.

The Amagansett, Bridgehampton, East Hampton, East Quogue, Eastport South Manor, Hampton Bays, Montauk, Remsenburg/Speonk, Sag Harbor, Springs and Westhampton Beach school districts will all be closed on Monday, according to their respective websites. Also, a Westhampton Beach School Board meeting scheduled for Monday evening has been postponed. A new date has not been scheduled.

Southampton Town Supervisor Linda Kabot issued snow emergency orders just before midnight on Saturday night after consulting with Southampton Town Police, the town’s safety administrator, and Mr. Masterson.

Southampton Town Police issued an advisory at 1:10 a.m. Sunday warning motorists that, under the restrictions of the town’s snow emergency, non-essential travel was prohibited.

By Sunday afternoon, police advised that, due to the substantial amount of snow on the ground and roadways, travel was still extremely hazardous. Roadways remained slippery, and in many cases, impassable on Sunday, and were dotted in some places with several abandoned and disabled vehicles.

There were 25 reported car accidents between Saturday at 4 p.m. and 1 p.m. Sunday, none of which were serious, and at least 81 abandoned vehicles in the roadways, according to Southampton Town Police. In one of the advisories early Sunday morning, police warned motorists to stay off the roads as “numerous vehicles are running off the roadway and getting stuck.”

Southampton Town Supervisor Linda Kabot said the warning would remain in effect at least into Sunday evening. She said major arteries such as Montauk Highway and County Road 39 were safe, but many residential roads remained dangerous to drive on.

“We have prohibited all non-essential traffic,” Ms. Kabot said. “It is dangerous to drive in these conditions ... The town roads, the secondary roads are still going to need more work tonight and into tomorrow.”

During such severe winter storms, police said, major thoroughfares are addressed first, followed by the higher-traffic town “collector roadways,” then neighborhood streets. When the snow emergency order came down, town highway crews were put on heightened alert for both town roadways and some private roads as well, to facilitate access by fire, police, and emergency medical responders.

In Hampton Bays on Sunday afternoon, Ben Soledad was outside shoveling his driveway and complained that his neighborhood roads were not being plowed.

Referring to town taxes, Mr. Soledad said, “They go up every year. There is a lot of snow. We’re less than a block away from the high school and our roads are not clean.”

Mr. Masterson said at 1 p.m. on Sunday that more than 100 employees and contractors were working to clear 450 miles of town roadways. He acknowledged that many streets still needed plowing.

“This is one of the worst I’ve had in 20 years, if not the worst,” Mr. Masterson said. “It started snowing at 1 p.m. on Saturday and finally stopped about an hour ago ... we’re doing the best we can with what we have.”

The extent of the blizzard stunned Richard Hendrickson, the 97-year-old meteorologist who has been recording weather measurements at his home in Bridgehampton since 1930.

He got up at 8 a.m. on Sunday to walk outdoors and take the readings of temperature, wind speed and snow depth, he said, and found that it had snowed 24 inches, the deepest morning measurement of snow he has recorded. He said the 24 inches of snow is equivalent to 2.53 inches of rain.

“It was rough,” Mr. Hendrickson said. “I know I have no recording of a snow that deep in the morning.”

Southampton Hospital spokesperson Marsha Kenny said on Sunday that, thanks to Southampton Fire Department assistance, hospital staffers were able to get in to work on Sunday morning and enough nurses made it in so that there was “adequate coverage.” Director of Plant Operations Dave Lopez and his crews worked through the night, she said, to keep the sidewalks and entrances clear so that the hospital would be as accessible as possible.

Ms. Kenny said that “it was a relatively quiet night” for Dr. Darin Wiggins, the chief of emergency room services, and his team, with no unusual increase in vehicle accidents.

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Too bad the highway dept didn't pick up the leaf piles yet. The poor guys driving the snow plows tonight will have to slalom up and down the roads.. Can't SH Town pick up the leaves sooner? Or fine people for putting large leaf piles in the road? What a pain to drive around them!!
By airehampton (2), East Quogue on Dec 19, 09 6:13 PM
Masterson could care less about our leaves. He's done. Iv'e been watching town trucks doing maintenance. There lovin this snow .Now they can say they can't get to them because of the snow. Typical with unionized undersupervised laborers. With extremely weak leadership that cares as much as the new guy. So sad.
However for whatever reason.( probably because their on their butt ). The plowing has been very well taken care of the last few seasons. Drive around for i can only imagine what overtime ...more
By double-D (96), southampton on Dec 19, 09 6:29 PM
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The plows are going to drive around the piles of leaves . Those trucks are going to hit those piles going 60 so, there will no longer be piles of leaves in the streets and everyone will have to rake up again. Did they pick up leaves anywhere? I haven't seen a single truck.
By lifesaver (118), speonk on Dec 19, 09 7:49 PM
what you just said is a completely biased statement. Yes, it's true, the town department needs some work, but it's not the workers fault. I agree, the leaves still being left out until almost january is a bit rediculous. However, it's not the workers fault. Town employees are doing what they are told to do, just like any other boss-employee relationship. The statement you made about town employees "sitting on their butts" is inacccurate. You're presuming that town employees don't work hard at all ...more
By bt0913 (1), Hampton Bays on Dec 20, 09 12:27 PM
Hey "Kenya Native". This storm won't actually change your life -- it's obvious you never get out of your mother's basement anyway... :]
By rss0246 (23), East Hampton on Dec 20, 09 3:09 AM
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By we could run this town! (129), wonderful Wainscott on Dec 20, 09 8:46 AM
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Could be the can of Bud rules here.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 9:05 AM
The leaves were being left for gregor as a late Xmas present from little bill, cause the guy wanted his job. The story goes that the snow comes just as the guys were going to go out to put a dent in the leaves. They had to stop everything to gear up for the snow -- yeah right, little bill is a wonderful guy.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 8:57 AM
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I don't know where you live but this happens every year. They pray for snow. Bill was always useless. Don't expect any different with the next one . That position seems to lure the lazy losers. I don't know Alex and i hope i'm wrong
By double-D (96), southampton on Dec 21, 09 5:22 PM
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By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (206), Hampton Bays on Dec 20, 09 9:50 AM
Gotta say that I haven't seen a Town vehicle yet, no sand , no salt, no plow, no nothing!! What's going on here people? We pay taxes like the rest of the Town, but it seems like they forgot my road.
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 20, 09 9:51 AM
Sounds like business as usual -- bill masterson always did like his back patted and rubbed -- guess you were not on the friends list and now he will be gone before the snow has melted -- part of his good bye kiss to us all.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 10:57 AM
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It's 11:30am,Sunday, our road is off Noyac road, not one plow came through yet-
meanwhile friends off a side road off at 114,East Hampton, already plowed twice.
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 11:38 AM
We are off of Noyac road also, no plows in sight, no answer at Town Hall, you would think they would have an emergency number or something.
Any suggestions on who to contact?
By sunshine (47), southampton on Dec 20, 09 11:49 AM
You and me both sister. Noyac is a death trap!!! Where the hell is the efficiency here?
By Shannandoah (6), sag harbor on Dec 21, 09 9:44 AM
By shock (70), whb on Dec 20, 09 12:05 PM
people cant leave their house...you think they care about your overpriced baby clothes? get real.
By slamminsammy (104), East Moriches on Dec 20, 09 8:20 PM
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complain, complain complain, Why don't some of you selfish basta*#s, do something for someone else for a change. Suggestion: Maybe shovel out an elderly neighbor or make lunch and drop it off.
By doe (3), east hampton on Dec 20, 09 12:19 PM
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Our neighbors and I are all shoveled out in our yards-and and well fed-we are talking about the roads. DUH!
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 12:31 PM
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Who did you dig out?
By double-D (96), southampton on Dec 21, 09 5:24 PM
The Hwy folks have been out since yesterday afternoon, well before the heavy snow came due to black ice. Now after working almost 24 hours straight, you folks have nothing to do but complain. The winds were blowing at 30 mph + and there are 450 miles of roads and about 40 people to plow them. The snow was back on the roads right after it was plowed. Kinda like shoveling you know what against the tide. Trucks are getting stuck everywhere, and idiots with 4x4s think they can drive at normal speeds. ...more
By Terry (380), Southampton on Dec 20, 09 12:49 PM
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Yo !!!

Peace on Earth begins with your next comment, folks.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 20, 09 2:04 PM
The highway is clear and people are driving on it, though not too many of them. The Town called in extra help last night, hiring private plows to assist in keeping keep 27 and 39 open. One guy I know was called at 3 am to help.

There's between 19" and 25" at my place with higher drifts in places. This is no piece of cake to clear away. I haven't seen this much snow in years. We've been told global warming will cause larger storms, and not just in the summer. Hope this is not a taste of ...more
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Dec 20, 09 2:32 PM
Do you know how to get on the private hiring list that the guy you know is on?
The town must pay very well to get some one up at 3 am.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 4:27 PM
Thank you
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 5:12 PM
dig the avatar kenya native! Don't let the luantic fringe get you down, the truth hurts when you've been proven wrong. Three cheers for the Tea Party and the Birthers!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 20, 09 3:45 PM
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By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Dec 20, 09 6:43 PM
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since the Town isn't keeping up with all the global warming that has fallen, want to help dig some folks out david?
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 20, 09 3:47 PM
Roads are impassable in my neighborhood. Bill Masterson, please send food, etc. asap.
By danrudan (40), Southampton on Dec 20, 09 3:55 PM
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We were lucky on our side road, we have a section of road plowed and entrance
cleared at my driveway for my early trip to the hospital .A big thank you to our friend Billy who came from Bridgehampton to help our neighborhood. It looks like Noyac has been forgotten when it comes to plowing.
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 4:44 PM
May be if there were a lot of registered republicans in your neighborhood it would help, we are known for taking care of our own.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 4:50 PM
Lets see, it depends on what party we belong to in order to get our roads cleaned .What planet are you from?
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 5:10 PM
the planet of southampton town -- I'm not saying they won't be done -- it is just a manner of how quickly -- there is a priority -- am surprised to hear side roads in HB aren't done cause that is a strong hold.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 20, 09 6:16 PM
You would be shocked at how often the politics of an area CAN sway which roads get plowed first. I am not saying it is an issue for this particular situation, but there are several very clear problems....

When News 12 covers an unplowed road, and the road is plowed within 1-2 hours after the story goes live, you KNOW that negative press coverage has more of an impact than people calling the town to complain.

By DaveB (13), Flanders on Dec 21, 09 6:34 PM
Measured 32" at the store without drifing, which is simply an incredible amount of snow. At our house on Riverdale, thank you to our neighbor who graciously plowed our road, which has still not been plowed by the town. Every side road off Wakeman in Hampton Bays from Palo Alto south hasn't been plowed once. In fact on Palo Alto the neighbors are shoveling the entire road by hand. Impressive! Just reporting the news, not passing judgement on the town, etc..
By Aspatuck Gardens (30), Westhampton Beach on Dec 20, 09 5:30 PM
I am amaze (maybe I shouldn't) I haven't hear the town trucks like other years....what an election can do :-( amazing when you heart is not the any more or should I say the $$$$$$$
you never finish getting to know people...I wonder if Mastersson is here or he went to Florida to play golf..
Bill the working class needs to go to work tomorrow!!!!!!!!!
By Bel (86), southampton on Dec 20, 09 6:05 PM
Maybe the town reads 27east? Thanks to all the dedicated highway workers and private plowers. Within 30 minutes of this post our road is clear. Coincidence? Who knows. Thanks again everyone for putting in the long hours to get our communities through this.
By Aspatuck Gardens (30), Westhampton Beach on Dec 20, 09 6:22 PM
Anyone know how much snow we actually got? I measured 25" on my front walk where it's somewhat protected by the house. In other areas it ranges from 19" to over four feet, though there are a few bare patches just behind the house where we are feeding the birds. We have drifting snow.

My Mom says she has two feet evenly across her lawn in SH. She ihas a lot of bushes and trees, so whatever fell hasn't drifted.

By goldenrod (505), southampton on Dec 20, 09 7:42 PM
looks like southampton town is just as bad as brookhaven.

in east/center moriches i saw three brookhaven town snow plows driving over snow covered roads with their plows up, one of which on his cell phone. another driver who i know personally is posting away on his facebook bragging about all the OT hes getting.

By slamminsammy (104), East Moriches on Dec 20, 09 8:23 PM
Now, the next problem for the town will be the elderly, who's driveways and walks are snowed in, who will be calling for assistance, food, etc. Let's see how this will be handled.
By BruceB (142), Sag Harbor on Dec 20, 09 8:29 PM
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It is only 10 hours since this record snow has stopped falling. The town crews are doing an admirable job and all streets should be plowed by Tuesday morning. In view of the advance warnings anyone who runs out of food and other basic supplies has no one to blame but themselves.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Dec 20, 09 8:36 PM
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By KAZ (26), SOUTHAMPTON on Dec 20, 09 9:18 PM
I am sure the Town crews are doing an admirable job, I only wished I saw one to cheer them on. I can only hope that an ambulance or fire truck does not have to respond up the hill of my unplowed street in Noyac.
By nellie (451), charleston on Dec 20, 09 9:35 PM
To EastEnd68 (Westhampton)
The town crew is getting pay..is no community service what they are doing... if they are doing it...like I said before ..I have not hear or seen a truck doing it job in North Sea/Noyac!!!
By Bel (86), southampton on Dec 20, 09 10:06 PM
Does all non essential driving in Southampton Town include alleged DWI's by
town supervisors.

The infighting on these message boards is so senseless. Try and make your own comments and move on. I don't care what you think about me, and I don't care at all about you.

Happy Holidays
By ride the truth wave (125), southampton on Dec 20, 09 10:32 PM
Help! Please plow out Sylvan Lane!
By nellie (451), charleston on Dec 21, 09 12:30 AM
Life's a beach...until you get snowed in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By wondering (63), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 5:32 AM
What's a birther ?
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Dec 21, 09 6:54 AM
A segment of Americans who believe President Obama was not born in the United States, but in Kenya, and occasionally Indonesia is mentioned. Surf the 'net - you'll even find a doctored birth certificate purporting to be Kenyan - its actually a doctored Austrailian birth certificate and of course its not Obama's. (He was born in Hawaii).
Snopes.com is a good place to verify fake from real items on the 'net.
By North of Highway (280), Westhampton Beach on Dec 21, 09 4:11 PM
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By wolf22 (7), Montauk on Dec 21, 09 7:40 AM
Holzman Drive, Hampton Bays NOT plowed as of 8:30 AM MONDAY. Its all hills in my neighborhood, too. This is unacceptable,
By Non-Political (125), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 09 8:40 AM
Who does one get in touch with to find out when their road will be plowed? Southampton town hall is closed today and I can't find a number for the highway dept. I live in North Sea on a private road right off Majors path and the snow is up to the middle of my thigh!!!! I can't even walk up the road to check on an elderly neighbor!? Just looking out the window and wondering!!!
By deb (2), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 8:44 AM
If it's a private road, generally the residents who use it have to hire a plow themselves. The town doesn't maintain it. Look up local landscaping companies and the like and talk to your neighbors about splitting the cost. Good Luck!
By RubyBaby (28), East Hampton on Dec 21, 09 12:56 PM
Just to be clear: I believe in a "snow emergency," as has been declared this time, the town will clear private roads as well. But they are at the bottom of the priority list, after primary roads and secondary roads.
By Joseph Shaw, Executive Editor (206), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 09 2:37 PM
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I think the word private means it's your road , which means you maintain it , does the elderly neighbor have a phone , you might be able to check on her that way
By crankinstein (10), southampton on Dec 21, 09 8:49 AM
How come mone of my comments get printed? I never write nasty...
By Carol (109), East Quogue on Dec 21, 09 10:50 AM
Now I will try again. I am concerned as to how long a feral cat will be able to survive this amount of snow. She lives in the woods or under a shed somewhere. I have been feeding her for 4 years. I am more concerned about kitty than not being plowed out or the leaves that sit here to spring anyway. We can complain but kitty cant.
By Carol (109), East Quogue on Dec 21, 09 10:55 AM
Who cares about feral cats ? I hope they freeze or starve to death.All they do is kill all the wild birds.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Dec 21, 09 6:35 PM
I don't think she'll starve. Most animals can live a week or even more without food. Water is more important. Just check on her when you can.
By SusieD (115), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 10:29 PM
great job by the Southampton highway guys, not only did they clear the MAIN roads but they had to assist the ambulance company's and FD's to gain access to the hypochondriacs w/ a stomach ache in the middle of a blizzard. We are in a state of emergency therefore the little side roads are skipped for the main roads. I find it hysterical that this is the biggest snowstorm in LI history and you folks are still complaining. Bill always did the best he could with what he had over the years, enjoy ...more
By politcal pawn (121), Flanders on Dec 21, 09 12:08 PM
Thank you Bill and your guys for a job well done. The blizzard of 2009 is sending you out in style.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Dec 21, 09 12:31 PM
Main roads are terrible still now at 1:00 pm on Monday, side roads terrible and never done, and people who don't know how to drive in these conditions should just stay inside! Road crews need to get up on it a little faster, please!
By LovedHerTown (132), southampton on Dec 21, 09 1:09 PM
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Thank you LovedHerTown. I do believe that I am one of the people who shouldn't be driving mostly because I drive slowly. I seem to annoy people, so I will stay inside. But I am going crazzzzzy!!! Hope everyone stays safe.
By MaryB (19), East Hampton on Dec 21, 09 2:44 PM
While Br'er Aesop has it that "slow and steady wins the race," what it actually does is raise the likelihood that in weather like this, you'll get where you're going.

And it's also easier to steer out of a skid at slower speeds.

Bless you, Mary B.
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Dec 21, 09 5:42 PM
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Most of you just ruined this lovely rarity of a gift nature just gave us... Politics cannot taint snow, but people sure can.. Bah humbug..!

By The Royal 'We' (199), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 3:19 PM
MaryB - I had to go to work but drove no more than 20 miles an hour and it still took me 1/2 hr. to go my normal 12 minute drive. I also know of a great free gaming site I came across this weekend while going berserk - pogo.com. LOL
By LovedHerTown (132), southampton on Dec 21, 09 4:41 PM
So, taxes went up 800 for me this year, and yet we haven't even had a plow look at our street as of 2pm. BUT, at least i saw on my way to work that the BIG DUCK parking lot was being plowed. Doesn't the town own that now?
By East End Guy (21), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 5:09 PM
If your taxes went up $800.00 I would presume MOST of that was school taxes.

The Big Duck is maintained by Parks and Recreation, not the Highway department.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 7:12 PM
it is amazing that the town plow trucks are on the roads with the plows in the "up" position.....noyack road is in horible condition,,IMHO...the town gets an F for the clean up...it's a joke!
By hto (12), sag harbor on Dec 21, 09 5:29 PM
Still waiting ...no plow.. Herne Place Southampton its Monday 5pm :(
By Justliving (1), Southampton on Dec 21, 09 5:37 PM
It looks like Bill started his retirement a week earlier.
I was in North Sea rd...and this rd was horrible...at the deli, post office and bank everybody is saying their neighborhoods haven't been clean at all..the only one that looks descent is 27...and of course Bridgehampton (Halsey Ln, Hildreth Ln) you could tell they have been clean up...I guess because of the Fire department
By Bel (86), southampton on Dec 21, 09 5:43 PM
Big Fresh and Randall Road are both have only 1 NARROW lane cleared, 2 vehicles can not pass each other and the Postal Service can't get through!!
I understand that we just got a good dump of snow, but during every other storm the Town and contracted plows were in motion non-stop, what's different this time. We didn't even get any salt and sand while it was starting. Holy crap, the first Town truck just went past my house.!!!!!
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 21, 09 6:09 PM
Left Riverhead after dinner saturday night ca 9pm, wind blowing, snow heavy, enough visibility to drive about 20mph, but the road wasnt in good enough shape for that. headed down 104 for Lewis, saw some plows doing 104, barely keeping up. Was surprised at the quiet of their passing, no scraping sound. Saw snow being moved, saw snow left behind... Got home, dug a spot for the car, then dug a path towards the house. More of the same Sunday morning. Seems a shame, all that time wasted leaving ...more
By bahhumbug (1), E Quogue on Dec 21, 09 6:21 PM
State and County roads will always be the first to get plowed/treated, and then you are left to the mercy of the towns. This is why you see 27, Flanders Road, and so on getting cleared first. That doesn't explain why 27 can be clear from Southampton to the town line and then it gets really bad from that point east though.
By DaveB (13), Flanders on Dec 21, 09 6:25 PM
I live on Montauk Highway and I saw hardly any County plows on the road.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Dec 21, 09 6:38 PM
KUDOS to whoever cleaned flanders road the best.merry christmas and happy new year.don't forget many highway employyee's are off because of the holiday so grab your own shovel and stop whinning
By asurest (117), easthampton on Dec 21, 09 7:00 PM
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I heard that East Hampton town is out of overtime emergency funds and Southampton Town is very close to being out...before the storm. Could be that less people are working on the plow crews which is why it is taking SO LONG! I hope schools get cancelled again tomorrow....I can't see the buses driving safely.
By lulu (1), Sag Harbor on Dec 21, 09 7:03 PM
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Privateer Matt. Not all feral cats are downright killers. You will never understand the joy I get daily when she polks her little face in the storm door every morning. Yesterday and being 70 years of age I shoveled a path over 40 feet to clear the bird feeders so they did not starve.. I have know you for many years and cannot believe your hatred. It really breaks my heart to think of any animal encaved and starving and I cannot do anything about it. I guess it is more important for ...more
By Carol (109), East Quogue on Dec 21, 09 7:55 PM
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I had cats in the past.One was killed on Montauk Highway and the other died of old age. I don't really hate them but hate what they do to the wild bird populations. I guess my first comment was a bit harsh.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Dec 22, 09 11:12 AM
I go to vermont usually every winter and they get as much if not more snow than we do, yet the roads are perfectly passable. Here, the roads are atrocious. Can anyone shed any light on this fact?
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Dec 21, 09 8:39 PM
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This was the biggest snow storm in a long time.

I would rather not pay for a fleet of trucks, tons of salt / sand, and an enormous workforce to stand-by at the ready for a storm that comes along once every ten years. A small inconvenience once every decade is no big deal.

Enjoy some quiet time and appreciate your surroundings while the crews help dig out.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Dec 21, 09 10:16 PM
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LOL are you kidding ,I personaly have friends in the Southampton town hiway dept .,and have been involved in 1 form or another with the town for nearly 30 years ,I have watched these men work ,the leaves SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP period piss poor scheduling really ,they are now buried ,hope the guys in the trucks enjoy hitting them now since there under 2 ft of frozen snow,as for 60 mph ,if a town truck were to go down my road at ANY TIME with all the kids and people here I would certainly be arrested ...more
By localboy (7), hampton bays on Dec 21, 09 10:44 PM
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And 4 the record I HAVE spent 38 hours non stop in a truck plowing for Riverhead as a sub,I know what the drivers go thru ,its not them ,funny I havent seen 1 truck since the 1st snowflake on friday or 1 drop of sand on the road anywhere ...where are the mystery trucks ?waiting in garages hoping it will melt and cost less ?
By localboy (7), hampton bays on Dec 21, 09 10:50 PM
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most of this is southampton..just wanted to weigh in from east hampton east..king has done a horrible job..roads are a disaster let alone a disgrace..did king get the memo>>"state of emergency'?? chris russo would nevr have let this happen..power goes to some peoples heads and eht has a real prize with this macho man..its not about you scott..clear the roads..so many plows with 2 guys passed us today..no plows down and the couple that were had no clue! ..no sand or salt ?? should have been on it ...more
By gansetteer (125), East Hampton on Dec 21, 09 11:25 PM
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ok,.. so it's 2 days past the storm and noyack road still is in horrible condition,... a side street that friends live on< northview hills ct,... hasn't seen a plow truck yet..... the snow plow crews are clueless,.. two in a truck and plow's in the up position..... amazing!... if I were in the highway department manangment seat,... I'd be embarrassed beyound anything... yes.... it's a once in ten year storm,.. but come on already!
By hto (12), sag harbor on Dec 22, 09 7:23 AM
seriously. and the sad part is, even if you do call the town, nothing will come of it. they will just take their sweet time getting around to noyack road. even the north sea fire dept. parking area/intersection is BARELY plowed. what. goes. on.
By Shannandoah (6), sag harbor on Dec 22, 09 9:28 AM
By hto (12), sag harbor on Dec 22, 09 7:26 AM
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Anybody blaming the people who work in the Highway Dept. for this debacle has misplaced their anger.

The employees will do whatever they are directed to do. You want them to work 24 hours straight? They'll do that. If you tell them to go home, they'll go home.

In my opinion, the people in charge failed to adequately prepare for the winter (I hear many trucks broke down) and there appears to be no real schedule as to who gets plowed when.

At some point you have to say ...more
By diy_guy (101), Southampton on Dec 22, 09 7:46 AM
The ironic thing is that Linda actually submitted some snow photos to this website's Snow Picture Gallery.I did too but mine weren't shown. Probably because I didn't caption them.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Dec 22, 09 11:15 AM
The phone number for the Highway Department is 728-3600 for anyone still looking for it. My street got 1 pass by a plow, no sand and we had to wait till Monday morning. Now its frozen. I've never seen it this bad.
By lifesaver (118), speonk on Dec 22, 09 8:11 AM
It is now Tuesday, December 22nd, Ponquogue Avenue in Hampton Bays is still a massive disaster. It looks like there was a couple of passes with a plow and that was it. I know friends whose street wasn't plowed nor had seen a snow plow as of 2:00pm Monday. Not one streets looks salted or properly plowed in any way shape or form. It is a sad state of affairs, because I blame our local government for this botched up mess.
By Terbear (77), Southampton on Dec 22, 09 10:21 AM
I went down Bay Avenue and Weesuck Ave. in EQ and they were a disaster with big leaf piles torn up by the plows.
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Dec 22, 09 11:16 AM
A quick BRAVO! to the Sag Harbor Village snow removal team. Our streets have been passable and clear since the storm began.
By CourtR111 (3), Sag Harbor on Dec 22, 09 12:32 PM
You people need to get out and do your Xmas Shopping!!!!!!!! STOP COMPLAINING. Life is too short for this crap
By Puros (30), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 09 1:40 PM
By bigfresh (4666), north sea on Dec 22, 09 5:07 PM
Yrs ago there used to be 12 men to a barn and 6 barns in the Town of Southampton. As officials changed in the town board, layoffs occured to save money in the budget, highway employees were decreased to 6-8 men per barn. Decrease in man power and an increase in population and added roads (subdivisions and new roads) just cause a slow down in efficiency of snow and leaf removal. It is not the fault of the employees that they are understaffed when it comes to clearing the roads of as much snow ...more
By NorthSeaNative (34), Southampton on Dec 26, 09 3:53 PM
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Sounds like your street was plowed out first!
By nellie (451), charleston on Jan 4, 10 10:38 PM