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Sep 28, 2010 3:15 PMPublication: The East Hampton Press

Judgment favorable but does not restore Stony Brook Southampton

Sep 28, 2010 3:15 PM

“I guess what I am asking from all of you is to do the right thing,” she concluded in her letter to council members. “Please don’t let them get away with what they did. They’ll just do it again. Let us be heard. We are worth it and we deserve it.”

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Judge Baisley has thrown the ball back into the hands of the Stony Brook administration. It will be VERY interesting to see if an intelligent and mature response is forthcoming.

The Southampton campus is a diamond in the rough. If Stony Brook can't wake up, then perhaps it DESERVES to have a fight on its hands, and to lose this gem?
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Sep 17, 10 5:37 PM
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Agreed. It would be nice to have a short trip for continuing adult education, instead of having to go to Suffolk...
By Mr. Z (11847), North Sea on Sep 17, 10 6:11 PM
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Stony Brook officials keep telling the press “The campus is not closed – the campus is still open”. But in a recent university newspaper, the Southampton staff assistant admits that, for the few grad students commuting to the campus, “There’s no computer access, there’s no library, there’s nothing for them to eat,” … “We had to put some chairs out so they could have somewhere to sit between classes”. What kind of an "open campus" is that? How do you do grad studies without computers or a library? ...more
By ts (71), southampton on Sep 21, 10 5:04 AM
If it was ruled illegal & ordered that it could not proceed, it only makes sense that whatever has proceeded into effect thus far must be undone.
By ts (71), southampton on Sep 18, 10 1:23 AM
The link to the August 30th decision is below:

http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/fcas/fcas_docs/2010sep/51001924420101sciv.pdf

It is a public record posted on the court systems website.


By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Sep 18, 10 7:32 AM
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The cuts to the Southampton campus will be permanent and legal once the trustees meet. The Southampton campus is too expensive to run at SUNY rates. The land will be sold to private developers where the state can reap the most financial benefit.
By Walt (292), Southampton on Sep 18, 10 3:41 PM
It may very well be "too expensive to run" but that does not make it any less expensive to close. Where are the numbers?

The amortization of the purchase price will continue. How many millions were spent on renovations of dorms and other facilities? Those costs will also continue even if those buildings are again locked up and allowed to deteriorate. Exactly how much is Stonybrook "saving" by allowing it all to go fallow?

Let's see the numbers and allow some well considered ...more
By VOS (1241), WHB on Sep 19, 10 12:05 AM
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The ruling only sated that it was illegal to make the cuts because the trustees did not vote on it, a technicality. You can be sure that oversight will be rectified and the cuts made legal.
By Walt (292), Southampton on Sep 18, 10 3:43 PM
Theres more than just a technicality involved. If they just rubber-stamp an after-the-fact approval on something that has already been illegally implemented, the council will be seen as a total sham. They are required to review and consider other alternatives. Theyre going to have to do that now. "Any effort by Stony Brook to go to the University Council to attempt a 'do-over' to close the campus will be met with the most stringent opposition".
By ts (71), southampton on Sep 21, 10 4:14 AM
If this campus is sold to anyone, let alone developers, it will be a sad day on the East End IMO.

As Woodie Guthrie wrote +/-, "This Land Is Our Land," and more probably it is Shinnecock land.

If the Stony Brook Trustees want to squander this diamond in the rough, then they have a serious vision problem IMO.

So be it!
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Sep 18, 10 3:59 PM
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An appointed public official (Dr. Samuel Stanley- President of Stony Brook University) made a major decision without consulting the University Council. This is illegal and, in this particular instance, he got caught. I wonder how many other decisions were made autonomously by Dr. Stanley that have gone by unnoticed. The Council exists to PREVENT one individual from holding too much power.
Members of the Stony Brook University Council have admitted that they don't even know what their responsibilities ...more
By Cdwyer213 (68), Quogue on Sep 19, 10 10:46 AM
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The council has a specific role with important duties but, according to comments made by some of them, they “don’t have the time” to inform themselves of the issues or even their responsibilites as a council. That is outrageous and an admission that should not be left to slide by. How can they perform their duties when they haven’t bothered to find out what they are? (see “Stony Brook Southampton Shuttered Without Council Oversight”
http://www.sbpress.com/2010/09/stony-brook-southampton-shuttered-without-council-oversight/)

The ...more
By ts (71), southampton on Sep 21, 10 4:47 AM
Southampton Update from Assemblyman Thiele...

Dear Friend,
Thank you for your recent email with regard to Judge Baisley signing the court order declaring Stony Brook’s action to close the Southampton campus to be illegal. This is certainly a victory for the students. It is gratifying to have our position upheld by the State Supreme Court.

Please also note that the Judge did not set any date for the re-opening of the college. While we requested the Judge to do so, it was not ...more
By ts (71), southampton on Sep 21, 10 4:10 AM
For insider information & new revelations that may shock some - check out these articles from the Stony Brook Press:

"Stony Brook Southampton Shuttered Without Council Oversight"
http://www.sbpress.com/2010/09/stony-brook-southampton-shuttered-without-council-oversight/

"With No Check, There is No Balance"
http://www.sbpress.com/2010/09/with-no-check-there-is-no-balance/

"The Southampton Exodus"
http://www.sbpress.com/2010/09/the-southampton-exodus/

By ts (71), southampton on Sep 21, 10 4:22 AM
thiele is impotent. on this issue.
By justduckey (58), artist colony on Oct 4, 10 5:09 PM
New article -- no link above, nor link there to this article:

http://www.27east.com/story_detail.cfm?id=304277&town=Southampton&n=University%20Council%20supports%20cuts%20to%20Stony%20Brook%20Southampton
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Oct 4, 10 6:59 PM