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Dec 3, 2013 3:44 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

State Police Investigating Robbery Of Westhampton Beach Gas Station

Dec 3, 2013 6:03 PM

New York State Troopers are investigating a robbery that took place at the Valero gas station on Montauk Highway in Westhampton Beach early Saturday morning, according to investigators.

An unidentified man robbed the gas station attendant of cash at an undisclosed time on Saturday, according to a New York State Police investigator. The investigator would not say if the man brandished a weapon during the robbery, or provide a description of the suspect.

Westhampton Beach Village Police responded to the incident as well, but the investigation is now being handled solely by the State Police.

No additional information was immediately available.

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Why is the investigation being handled by NY State Police?
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 13 4:27 PM
Nature, would you prefer trained professionals or losers who sleep in their cars handling an armed robbery at your place? The State Police were the obvious choice.
By G (342), Southampton on Dec 3, 13 4:55 PM
G - not saying it should be WHB, but i figure there is a reason for it and that the press could ya know, report that reason so the general public could understand.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 13 5:07 PM
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I agree with nature. awfully odd that the state police would be handling this.
By bmr80 (35), east quogue on Dec 3, 13 6:04 PM
Could be as simple as the State getting there first.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 13 9:14 PM
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OT -- blank! are you following the Detroit bankruptcy, and the judge's hint that State guarantees of the sanctity of pensions are now on the table?

Perhaps the NYS laws are different enough, but the general point I was trying to make in the SHT PD articles is back on the table it would appear.

Never say never?

Peace on Earth.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 4, 13 9:13 AM
You would have a point if anyone was making the case that Detroit is going bankrupt due to municipal employees and the pay package they receive. That is not the case. Detroit has been going downhill since 1950. Just how many Mayors have been convicted of felonies? How many jobs have been lost to the Big 3 taking their plants elsewhere?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 5, 13 3:22 PM
Correct, but the general point is (and has always been -- doh) that federal bankruptcy courts can reach deep into pockets previously thought to be zipped up, i. e., the NYS pension funds you think are set in stone and immune from being sucked into a municipal bankruptcy of a local municipality.

Stubbornness will not change the correctness of this . . .
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 5, 13 7:03 PM
I have not read the decision, but the questions has to be asked if Detroit maintains its own retirement fund, or it is done via the state, as in NY.
I find it hard to believe that a judge can order a 3rd party, (i.e. the state retirement fund) to have any liabilities for a municipalities failings.
As I have explained to you prior, once an employee retires in NY, the municipality from which he or she retires, no longer has any costs. A retirees benefits come from the state retirement fund, ...more
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 6, 13 12:58 PM
blank!, your logic seems sound.

"Never say never" was the main point, and until there is an actual municipal bankruptcy which raises the precise question in NYS, we may not know the answer.

One imagines that the federal bankruptcy judge in Detroit, however, surprised folks who had thought that the pensions in question were safe and sound.

Have a good weekend.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 6, 13 2:43 PM
You must understand contract law to understand very few things can withstand a federal bankruptcy. A pension plan is simply a liability of the municipality that is going bankrupt. Michigan also has in its constitution that a pension is guaranteed. Unfortunately the federal courts call for equal protection and a pension is just another creditor in a bankruptcy. Blank has consistently told me that the state constitutions would never let one cent of pension money not to be paid. That is truly a bogus ...more
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Dec 6, 13 3:04 PM
But are the SHT PD pensions (to be more specific, as an example) a "liability of" Southampton Town, or have those funds been so sequestered in the NYS pension plan, that NO LIABILITY for Southampton Town remains on the books?

It seems hard to believe that SH Town is not a back-up source to pay the pensions, if for instance the NYS pension fund goes belly up? The original contract was between the Town and the PBA members -- is there not still some duty by the Town to honor/pay the pensions, ...more
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Dec 6, 13 3:44 PM
As usual Chief you insert and omit words to fit your warped point of view. "blank has consistently told me that the state constitutions would never let one cent of pension money not to be paid" Please show me where I wrote this. The liability is on the State retirement system, not the municipality. "bogus statement"? The New York State Pension Fund is one of the best funded in the nation, if not the best. Your "trillions" remark is as far off the mark of reality as you are.
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 11, 13 12:48 AM
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Blank you talk so much garbage you can't remember what you say. Do a little research and you will find social security, private, and public retirements are under funded tens of trillions for people collecting in the next 30 years. Your the one who told us the retirement for municipal emplyees are protected by the state constitution which is BS.
By chief1 (2800), southampton on Dec 12, 13 9:14 AM
Incredibly well thought out response, Chief. You made a claim in reference to statements you allege that I made. I asked you to document that. You responded by asking that I research it. FAIL.
I commented on the NYS retirement system and you respond by bloviating as to Social Security, private pensions, and public retirements ( whatever that is). Can you tell us how the NYS Retirement System is "10s of trillions under funded"?
I doubt you can, as it is not true. Put your brain in gear before ...more
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 12, 13 2:22 PM