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Sep 30, 2019 2:26 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Major Housing Complex Proposal Sees Resistance From Westhampton Beach Neighbors

Jim Behringer, project manager of Carriage Hill Developers, Inc. RACHEL VALDESPINO
Oct 2, 2019 11:05 AM

Westhampton Beach residents voiced their disapproval last week at a meeting of the Village Planning Board of a proposal for a 52-unit housing complex in their modest neighborhood along Rogers Avenue.

This proposal came just days after another developer pitched a proposal to the Village Board for a 16-unit senior housing project on a vacant property across the street on Old Riverhead Road, below the Dunes housing community, also known as Timber Ridge.

The property owner and developer of the new proposal, listed as Rogers Associates LLC, is proposing to build 52 housing units in 13 townhouse buildings, an on-site sewage treatment plant, and a private community center and swimming pool in two phases.

Rogers Associates shares the same address as the project’s architect and management firm, Carriage Hill Developers, based in Wantagh.

Representatives presented the preliminary plans during the Planning Board meeting on Thursday, September 26, to board members and a room full of Rogers Avenue residents who waited to voice their opposition and concerns during a public comment period.

Of the 52 units, eight would be one-bedroom affordable housing units at roughly 1,200 square feet, another eight would be three-bedroom units at 2,300 square feet, and the remaining 36 would be two-bedroom units ranging from 2,000 to 2,250 square feet. All units would be two stories and have full basements.

The 2,850-square-foot community center would house the swimming pool, an exercise room, a billiards room, a common area, and bathrooms and showers. An outdoor recreation area is also being proposed for pickleball courts and bocce.

The 9-acre parcel, which is actually six adjoining properties, housed a former asphalt plant that closed in 2005 because the village prohibited such an operation after neighbors complained of traffic issues and potential health hazards stemming from the plant.

The land is currently zoned to allow for multifamily housing. The remaining Rogers Avenue neighborhood is zoned for single-family housing.

At the Planning Board meeting, 10 neighboring property owners objected to the project, citing as the primary concern increased traffic on a street that is already considered a safety hazard because drivers who take it as a shortcut onto Old Riverhead Road are known to exceed the speed limit.

“It’s become such a community in the last 10 years that it’s wonderful,” Rogers Avenue resident Cynthia Schunk, who served on the Village Planning Board in the late 1960s, said to the board. “And then this gets presented to us. And not that we didn’t know something was going to happen up there, but the density alone is just overwhelming to me.”

Board Chairman David Reilly notified residents before the presentation that the application would undergo a lengthy review process and go before several boards before final plans were approved.

“What you see tonight is probably not what is going to be there at the end of the road. So just have a little patience with what is going on here,” Mr. Reilly said. “We do have a number of procedural issues that we have got to deal with.”

The board did not make a decision at Thursday’s meeting as the developer needs to submit a long environmental assessment form to the building department. Once that is filed, the board can determine at its October 10 meeting whether to start the state-required environmental review process, known as the State Environmental Quality Review Act.

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What a home run for WHB. More housing that can be year-round. More taxpayers to support the new Main St project and the sewer project. More year round shoppers. Of course there are the NIMBY people not realizing this project will substantially increase the value of their homes.
By Bobt (48), WHB on Sep 30, 19 5:59 PM
Of course people will come out to oppose it! That's the American way!
But how many of those who oppose it have family members living in their basements or garages or extra bedrooms? Or children who have left the area? Or parents who had to move because there were no places for them to live when they couldn't manage their homes? Get real folks!!! We need more places for people to live. And the Boards need to have the guts to look past the angry NIMBY's and do the right thing for ALL members ...more
By MichaelDaly (16), SAG HARBOR on Oct 1, 19 10:52 AM
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I am getting a little tired of the mantra of some of the "affordable housing" movement folks. Diana Weir has made a nice living moving from Township to Township with that mantra and you, living in one of the least dense and affluent areas, also seem to have a lot to say about the housing issues NOT in your area. Kids move to where the jobs are. Not everyone is lucky enough to get a job at the TOS as the director of housing because she is "like a mom" to Jay Schneiderman or sell million dollar ...more
By G.A.Lombardi (550), Hampton Bays on Oct 1, 19 12:46 PM
C'mon now, G.A.... this isn't a case of NIMBY so much as not in my front yard.

The residents of Rogers Avene and, to a lesser extent, adjacent Hazlewood, had decades of hot petro-stench from an illegally-operated asphalt plant and the choking dust from the adjoining cement plant, along with daily incursions of diesel-snorting trucks from pre-dawn to dusk.

Then the municipality took long overdue steps to close those nuisances down, and those residents you are sneering at were at ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1823), Northampton on Oct 1, 19 8:41 PM
Frank, maybe I wasn't clear. My point was that neighbors are not "NIMBYS" and they have the right and, in my opinion, the responsibility to voice concerns since they know best about the nuances of the community. Additionally, without the protection of a Village, the TOS will "dump" on them. Then there are people like Mike Daly, who runs aYIMBY (yes in my backyard) movement, when it is actually "yes in YOUR backyard" when it comes to density. My only point about this specific project is that ...more
By G.A.Lombardi (550), Hampton Bays on Oct 2, 19 6:15 AM
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Thank you for the clarifying response, G.A.

We are, it would appear, in accord.




By Frank Wheeler (1823), Northampton on Oct 2, 19 10:31 AM
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Of course Frank no one wants to have the "hot petro-stench from a illegally operated asphalt plant (your words not mine) and the choking dust from the adjoining cement plan" but you do sound so disgruntled. My advice is not to buy a home next to the aforementioned asphalt and cement plant in the first place. Then you don't have to worry about it.
By realistic (468), westhampton on Oct 2, 19 7:48 PM
I have no desire to purchase a lot on Rogers Avenue -- one member of my extended family already does, and that's enough!

(P.S., realistic -- you need to work on your cut 'n' paste skills a little more before attempting such an advanced skill again.)



By Frank Wheeler (1823), Northampton on Oct 4, 19 1:44 AM
You put that much density next to Rogers Avenue with access to Rogers you'll never be able to pull out of your driveway if you live there. You'll never be able to make a left turn onto Montauk Hwy. Cars will be backed up the whole road during the commute. Trucks couldn't use Rogers as a route during the asphalt days but the folks on Rogers Ave Ext. probably had to tighten the screws on cabinets, furniture etc with all the rumbling. Build, but no access to Rogers Avenue. Let them live in peace ...more
By lirider (288), Hampton Bays on Oct 2, 19 1:09 PM
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