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Jan 13, 2010 3:06 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Trustees reject mayor's attempt to add seven resolutions after walk-out in Westhampton Beach

Jan 13, 2010 3:06 PM

Westhampton Beach Village Mayor Conrad Teller tried, and failed, during a special Village Board meeting on Tuesday morning to reintroduce seven resolutions that had prompted three trustees to walk out of last week’s originally scheduled board meeting, forcing the mayor to cancel it.

The mayor’s motion to introduce the seven resolutions, including one that attempted to reinstate charges that were recently dropped against two previously suspended Village Police officers, failed by a 3-2 margin, as only Mayor Teller and Village Board member Toni-Jo Birk voted in favor of adding those items to the agenda.

Board members Hank Tucker, Jim Kametler and Joan Levan—the three who walked out of the meeting scheduled to begin at 7 p.m. last Thursday, January 7, after they learned of the mayor’s plan—opposed the measure on Tuesday. They said they wanted to meet with a labor attorney before discussing those items in public.

The mayor had added the seven resolutions to last week’s agenda before 3 p.m. on January 7, more than four hours before the scheduled meeting, but Mr. Tucker said that none of the trustees knew about the additions until about 45 minutes before the meeting.

“These are serious legal issues ... [that] shouldn’t be discussed in public,” Mr. Tucker said of the mayor’s resolutions on Tuesday morning.

The Village Board was forced to meet Tuesday, less than five days after Mayor Teller was forced to cancel the regularly scheduled meeting due to a lack of a quorum, to take care of routine business, including paying the village’s December bills. The meeting’s agenda did not include the seven resolutions, but Mayor Teller made a motion to add them to the schedule.

Mr. Kametler actually made a separate motion to move Tuesday’s meeting into executive session, but then later rescinded that attempt. Board members then asked Village Attorney Bo Bishop to schedule a meeting with the village’s labor attorney, Richard Zuckerman, a lawyer with Lamb & Barnosky LLP in Melville, to discuss the mayor’s resolutions.

Six of the seven resolutions referenced Village Police Officers Michael Bruetsch and Joseph Pesapane, both of whom were suspended with pay in October by Mayor Teller after an internal report prepared by the Suffolk County Internal Affairs Bureau concluded that they lied to their superior officers and investigators about the circumstances surrounding a fellow officer’s missing handgun, which was later recovered. Against the mayor’s wishes, the charges were later dropped by the Village Board, and members ordered that the officers return to work in December.

Two of the resolutions the mayor wanted to introduce would have reversed the previous board decision to drop disciplinary charges against the two police officers as well as a separate vote that reinstated them. A third resolution sought to resuspend Officers Bruetsch and Pesapane, while another would have appointed an officer to conduct a disciplinary hearing. Another resolution would have approved the hiring of a stenographer for a disciplinary hearing.

The seventh resolution did not have anything to do with the two officers, and was intended to rescind a resolution approved in October that restricted Mayor Teller’s interactions with the village’s labor attorney. Village officials are still negotiating new contracts with the Westhampton Beach Department of Public Works and Police Benevolent Association. The village is also negotiating a new contract for Westhampton Beach Police Chief Ray Dean, whose last contract expired in December 2008.

At the Village Board’s December 2 meeting, the board approved the two approved motions to drop disciplinary charges and reinstate the two suspended police officers—both unexpected additions to the agenda, which were introduced by Mr. Kametler and adopted the same night.

The difference, according to the three trustees who walked out of last week’s meeting, was that those additions were discussed before the meeting. They also said that Mayor Teller never told them about his proposed resolutions last week, adding that they learned of them after arriving at Village Hall less than an hour before last week’s meeting.

Mr. Tucker said that he and the three other trustees received a tentative agenda on December 29, and that document did not include the mayor’s seven resolutions. Mayor Teller had asked Kathy McGinnis, the village clerk and treasurer, to add the resolutions to the agenda on Thursday morning, and copies of the document were left in the trustees’ mailboxes at Village Hall at around 2:30 p.m.

When Mr. Tucker, Mr. Kametler, Ms. Levan and Ms. Birk arrived at Village Hall last Thursday, between 6:15 and 6:40 p.m., to sign vouchers and pay the bills, they saw the update agenda, and a “screaming match” began, Mayor Teller said.

“I don’t know why you’d slip them on at the 11th hour,” Mr. Tucker said during Tuesday’s special meeting.

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To the writer of this article: (By Hallie D. Martin). What a terribly written article! It's very confusing and not very clear. Who "added seven resolutions pertaining to the two officers" Teller or the other three trustees? What the heck are you trying to say? Wow? Who's at fault?-Teller or the other trustees - Yikes!
By BIGjimbo12 (201), East Quogue on Jan 8, 10 12:24 PM
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By CoweeDewey (110), East Quogue on Jan 15, 10 12:18 PM
why not describe what Mayor Teller was wearing?

I love high heels as much as the next girl, but how is 'reporting' a board member wearing them AT ALL relevant to this situation?
By quioguebirder (11), on Jan 8, 10 1:01 PM
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Well they have AGAIN showed their true color's
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Jan 8, 10 2:08 PM
You mean, The Village?
By Bayman1 (297), Sag Harbor on Jan 9, 10 7:59 AM
Hank is sure lucky he has the village paying for his health insurance,but I'm not sure it will cover his lose of cahones!Mr.Big mouth couldn't take the heat so he ran out of the kitchen!!!!!What a disgrace this board is,t hey know they acted wrongly and rather than face the facts they ran away.Can anyone really defend their actions???Take back our village and get rid of them,do we have to wait till June,what more damage will they do by then?/Good to see ToniJo was willing to attend and do her duty ...more
By curious (77), westhampton beach on Jan 8, 10 2:19 PM
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DYSFUNCTIONAL is the repeated epithet for the Westhampton Beach PD and it applies equally to the entire Board of Trustees and the Mayor.

The following facts are uncontested:

We have have one Police Officer who lost his gun and he suspected the shenanigans of fellow officers with whom he does not get along. The loss of a gun is no joke. So if the Police Officer negligently lost his gun, it doesn't look good for him; and if other officers are playing such games, well, it isn't ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 8, 10 2:48 PM
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Publius: "Board of Trustees which has the legal authority to control the meeting."

That's not how I read NYS Law. It is the Mayor who has the legal authority to set the agenda and control the public meetings.
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 8, 10 6:37 PM
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Nope, it is the majority of the Board that controls. The Mayor has a vote, one vote, and he is supposed to execute the will of the majority. The Mayor presides at Village meetings, but he can only do what the majority directs.

The idea that he had any independent rights to assert from a minority position simply because he is the mayor is mistaken.

A quorum is a simple majority of the Board, without it nothing can be done which is why there was no a meeting.

I don't ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 8, 10 7:17 PM
The Chief didnt put the officers on restriction it was by order of the Mayor.
By T.J. (31), WHB on Jan 8, 10 9:25 PM
Thank you.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 10, 10 2:11 PM
do you think if they disbanded the local govt. and got rid of the local police anyone would really notice? much ado about absolutely nothing.
By realdeal (23), Southampton on Jan 8, 10 3:59 PM
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A rather expensive "absolutely nothing," it seems to me! These people are all (well) paid to do their jobs - avoiding scheduled meetings and playing games are probably NOT in their job descriptions!

These jerks need to go!!!
By barnbabe (64), westhampton beach on Jan 8, 10 4:15 PM
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True. Why not show up and simply do your job, no matter how much it bothers them? They need to show up, make decisions, do what is expected of them, do what they get paid to do.
By mystcstar (51), Quogue on Jan 8, 10 8:11 PM
1) This IS a VERY Badly written, confusing article that should be pulled and re-written. Where the heck is the editor? Back to the Remington, Timmy. Rewrite!
Start at whbqt.info. He was there, too.

2)Last night's event was a HUGE, arrogant insult to the residents of Westhampton Beach, many of whom attended the scheduled meeting, and saw the accessable and written agenda HOURS before the event. Mayor Teller sprung no surpises--he's an honorable man.
No one was on vacation; ...more
By Jean (79), whb on Jan 8, 10 4:06 PM
Jean: Your "Topic" is that you don't like 3 Trustees. You attack anyone who does not stay on Your Topic.

The reporter recognized that the problem is not limited to 3 Trustees who boycotted the meeting.

Most posters on this page recognize that there is more than one Topic in this article. It is about the Trustees and the underlying and persistent problem the PD and its Chief.

In the past when you have chosen to address my posts I have asked you whether you believe ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 10, 10 3:15 PM
Today is the 12th, and the first time I've gotten back on the blog to read it and comment. So I didn't ignore any of your questions; I hadn't seen them. I think the PD was settled under the Stebel administration; and Toni-Jo's sticking her nose into the Chief's business with scheduling was the start of the unraveling of the chain of command--a destructive move by the Trustees that has snowballed to a goddawful mess. Further, I do not see this posting as one addressing the PD--it addresses the ...more
By Jean (79), whb on Jan 12, 10 9:36 PM
Wait - wasn't Publius' wake today???
By barnbabe (64), westhampton beach on Jan 8, 10 4:16 PM
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The three whiners that walked out should not be paid. They performed no work, so therefore no pay. This is the Drama Capital of the Hampton's, what a bunch of loonies running the farm.
By sayitaintsojoe (100), Westhampton on Jan 8, 10 4:31 PM
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A great way to start off the New Year.

Lets just hope the village residents keep showing up at the meetings,
ask questions and hope for answers.
Transparency ?
Are these meetings ever going to be televsed again, I hioe everyone knows they can watch the meetings on the village website.
By shock (70), whb on Jan 8, 10 5:25 PM
If the "non-meeting" was as bad as it's portrayed here and by the Beach Blogger, what makes you think those three Trustees will allow whatever was recorded to be shown to the public?

By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 8, 10 5:34 PM
Why would this be dropped on the board at the very last minute? This is not normal protocol. We have a board to balance the power. Something does not seem right about this. If the article is accurate than shame on the mayor. If so then it seems like the board members did the right thing by walking out. I applaud their courage.
By simoneng (3), new york on Jan 8, 10 5:32 PM
Well, this article says they were "tacked on at the last minute," by the Beach Blogger says that the full agenda was made available to the public at 3:00 pm. Who's right?

But if you watch the video of last month's meeting, Trustee Jim Kametler pulled a non-agenda resolution out of his pocket, and the three of them who refused to attend last night's meeting, passed that resolution [over the Mayor's Nay] to return the two suspended cops to active duty without going through the disciplinary ...more
Jan 9, 10 5:45 PM appended by Frank Wheeler
That should have been "but the Beach Blogger....."
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 8, 10 5:45 PM
All Trustees owe each other the kindness and respect to give plenty of advance notice of proposed resolutions. Whether it be Mr. Kametler or Mayor Teller or any of the others, it is discourteous and unproductive to engage in ambush tactics.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 8, 10 7:20 PM
Publius, I would refer you to §4-400 of the New York State Municipal Code at http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/VIL/4/4-400; it lays out the duties of a Village Mayor.

Also, give heed to the sub-section which provides that a Mayor shall serve as an ex-officio member of each separate board of commissioners. In reading the reports over the past months here and at the Beach blog, it seems that the Trustees have not only attempted to usurp the authority of the Mayor, and illegally deny him ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 9, 10 1:55 AM
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PS stop wasting our taxes with this.
By simoneng (3), new york on Jan 8, 10 5:32 PM
The picture for this article is a classic
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jan 8, 10 5:35 PM
Simoneng: ?what?
Wasting our time with what?
By Jean (79), whb on Jan 8, 10 6:37 PM
I said wasting our TAXES on this, not time.
By simon t (3), whb on Jan 14, 10 1:03 PM
The dysfunctional state of WHB PD and local government in general is no news to many of us. Personally, I greatly appreciate the added dimension of this writer's subtle wit. Sadly, it goes over the heads of a few vocal readers.

BigJimbo12, if you aren't able to understand, please make some attempt and re-read before being so quick to judge. Quioguebirder, if you don't get the 'colorful dress and black high heels' line, maybe you should re-examine your own wardrobe.

Love it. ...more
By Satori (1), East End on Jan 8, 10 11:09 PM
Well now we can be know for having "THE THREE STOOGES" on our board.
It is time to:
Get rid of this board
Get rid of this over paid do nothing police department
Does anyone else think it strange that after the artical on problem New Years Eve at The Westhampton Steak House that you could not comment on it.
It was all so reported that people have complained to the SO-CALLED police department for a long time about what goes on at the steak house and what was done NOTHING.
So ...more
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Jan 9, 10 12:03 AM
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I just finished reading both of your comments.Do you have any idea what you are talking about??????? You better read what happened again.
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Jan 9, 10 12:08 AM
Not sure what you do not understand. Do we pay for lawyers fees every time we make appointments and consult with them? Do our taxes pay for salaries and benefits of our mayor and board? If so then it is you and I and all of the tax payers who are paying for all of this nonsense. Our village would be better served if we spent our time and tax dollars more wisely. If our board and the Mayor co operated. Not sure why our government is so fixated on going after these members of the ...more
By simon t (3), whb on Jan 14, 10 1:18 PM
Ms. Martin's reporting captures the pathology of both those who were absent and those who attended. All too human, but we can do better.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 9, 10 8:21 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Rusty T. Bone (6), Westhampton on Jan 9, 10 10:38 AM
Yes, serious crime in the village? How about the armed robbery at the "Post Stop Cafe"? How is that investigation going fellas?
So, the WHBPD has two dispatchers and two "rubber gun" officers. (thanks Beach Blogger for that one). Did anyone ever count the number of stationary vehicles parked in the WHBPD lot? Do you think we have some fraud, waste, and abuse going on here?
By The Dark Side (8), Westhampton on Jan 10, 10 1:39 PM
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This "reporting" "captures" nothing . Good Grief. Read it aloud, Publius. This was a defining moment for the WHB Village Board of Trustees: They were there, and they left. They DID NOT face the constituency regarding their actions. If they were TRUE civil servants, the law would protect us from an unauthorized strike/walk out: they would be fired and stripped of their privileges and benefits on the spot.
IF Ms. Levan, et al, can't handle the public exposure of her/their behavior, how can ...more
By Jean (79), whb on Jan 10, 10 4:40 PM
Jean-thank you for your comments. Joan Levan has been exposed as the cry baby she is when things don't go her way. We are lucky to have stand up people like Mayor Teller representing us.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jan 10, 10 9:03 PM
i still don't understand what the writer was saying.........did teller add things to the agenda without consulting the other trustees or did the three trustees want something added and teller didn't want to...what the heck!
By BIGjimbo12 (201), East Quogue on Jan 10, 10 10:19 PM
The story states that the three trustees who left the meeting left after meeting with the mayor a few minutes before the scheduled meeting. The same story also says that the mayor added the seven resolutions to the agenda--and the three trustees walked out after those items were added to the agenda. I think it's pretty clear that Hank, Joan and Jim left the meeting after learning about the resolutions ... and it is also appears to me that they had no idea that those items were being added to the ...more
By Rusty T. Bone (6), Westhampton on Jan 11, 10 7:36 AM
ah, well, that makes total sense now - so the three trustees were being blind-sided by mayor teller and they took a stand against his [the mayors] 11th hour tactics. One can pre-suppose that the mayor had is own agenda in mind here and that the other three trustees were actually trying to do the right thing and protect the public's interests. The whole thing seems shady to me and I am sure there is more to it. The three trustee revolt may have been their way to let the public know that there is ...more
By BIGjimbo12 (201), East Quogue on Jan 11, 10 8:45 AM
Well, BJ12, I guess it comes down to who can be relied on for this key point, doesn't it?

The Beach Blogger wrote that the agenda was available much earlier that afternoon. If that is accurate, and if it was the same agenda as the one at the meeting, then there goes the Trustees' "last minute" excuse.

But then didn't those same three Trustees at the previous meeting actually add a resolution to white-wash the suspended cops during the meeting, without warning to anyone?

If ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 11, 10 9:09 AM
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It would be unusual for the village board meeting to have more than the few usual gadflies unless the Mayor had put the word out to his buddies to show up.

Two dozen at a meeting in January seems like the Mayor was playing a game, and notice went to everyone he chose, except the other Trustees.

If the residents would prefer to pay for full time trustees, then a 3 pm agenda change would not be unreasonable. However, we have part time Trustees, the action the Mayor sought to ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 11, 10 11:40 AM
The Beach Blogger is written by Dean and I am not sure who side he takes (which makes it suspect and opinionated at best), maybe he's on the side of Teller. But there is certainly something going here that transcends the writer's ability to get the facts down properly. Hank and Joan have always seems very sincere and straight forward in their past history on that board so.........
By BIGjimbo12 (201), East Quogue on Jan 11, 10 7:40 PM
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BJ12: "The Beach Blogger is written by Dean and I am not sure who side he takes (which makes it suspect and opinionated at best)"

Don't know why it's "suspect," but if you have no idea what his position is, then it can't be all that "opinionated," can it?

I don't even live on that side of the Sunrise, and I know where he's coming from!

By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 11, 10 10:15 PM
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"The Dark Side"
You are 1000% right. Not only does the Pd do nothing but now the Board does nothing. Just look at the local PD reports. The PD NEVR solves anything. They can not even correct there own problems in the force so how can they help us.Lets not forget the head cop DEAN get paid more than the police chief of N.Y.C. and all so does NOTHING.Don't forget over 28% of your taxes go toward the NO NOTHING PD
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Jan 11, 10 3:03 PM
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By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Jan 11, 10 9:10 PM
Thank goodness for The Beach Blogger; without his efforts, we'd have to believe everything we read in The Press and everything our Village Board members tell us - a scary thought.
By barnbabe (64), westhampton beach on Jan 12, 10 4:45 PM
Agreed, Barnbabe. This awful article was written four days ago, and yet to be corrected or updated.
By Jean (79), whb on Jan 12, 10 9:59 PM
From Trustee Birk:

“I want these guys cleared,” she said during Tuesday’s meeting, referring to the two previously suspended officers.

Well, it is pretty clear that she can't sit as a hearing officer. Perhaps that was by design, just like missing the December meeting.

For what it is worth, she seems to have concluded that the two officers should be cleared. That leaves the Mayor as the only person, perhaps other than the Chief, who thinks these guys should be canned.

Maybe ...more
Jan 13, 10 3:52 PM appended by Publius
It is troubling that it is the Mayor who authenticated the report delivered to the Press. It would seem unlikely that the Press would have ever written about it without the Mayor's authentication. "The Press obtained a copy of the internal report from an anonymous source. Mayor Conrad Teller, who has reviewed the original document, confirmed the authenticity of the report, saying the copy obtained by The Press “appeared to be a factual copy” when he had the opportunity to review it on Monday." The Mayor probably should have said he can't comment publicly.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 13, 10 3:52 PM
I guess Jim, Joan and Hank just needed the weekend to decide that they still didn't want to discuss this issue with the people who voted them into office. Yet another display of great leadership. Personally, I loved the part where Joan questions the credibility of the report produced by the people who police the police. She never ceases to impress with her indefensible defenses.

Wow. I suppose a reporter is truly talented if she can file a story four days ago, even though the most recent ...more
By Rusty T. Bone (6), Westhampton on Jan 13, 10 8:53 PM
"how dare she actually talk to the trustees who walked out of last week's meeting to find out why they left"

That says it all.

Get the Press to publish the IAB report, let the voters see what it says rather than guess. Sorry, I don't hold Suffolk PD in the same esteem you do. I would rather see their work first hand and judge for myself.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 13, 10 9:04 PM
RTB: "Personally, I loved the part where Joan questions the credibility of the report produced by the people who police the police."

I enjoyed that as well. She (and the other two) have been insisting that they wanted this IA investigation, but since it didn't turn out the way they wanted it to, they're trying to bury it, and then she tries to impeach it!

RTB: "keep reading the slanted and biased offerings posted by a local blogger."

Near as I can tell, he's gotten it ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 14, 10 1:00 AM
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Hey Frank, you are a guy that wants the facts.

How about signing on to a request that the Press post the IAB report?

Maybe if enough people request it, then the Press will permit its online readers a source document that so far has only been distilled for the readers by the editorial staff.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 14, 10 8:42 AM
I absolutely would subscribe to that -- they could scan it and make it available as a PDF for download for those who want to wade through all 90-100 page, and I think some of us might like to, even if we don't know all the players.

But I don't think it's very realistic to expect The Press' editors to respond favorably.

As for the lack of esteem in which you hold SCPD, I can't comment -- they ordinarily don't operate on the East End unless there's a homicide, I think. But the investigation ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 14, 10 9:28 AM
Ditto -- publishing a PDF here would be a good move IMO for this site and the Press, and would benefit the public immensely.
By PBR (4956), Southampton on Jan 14, 10 12:46 PM
90 - 100 pages ? Does that come with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one? Never saw the length of the report given, guess I missed it.
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 14, 10 1:10 PM
I want the officers investigated by the Internal Affairs report dismissed. If they no longer can appear in a court of law, because they were found guilty by an outside regulatory agency to have behaved in an illegal and dishonest way, they are useless to the village. Any arrests they might make between naps and Holy Moses Cheesecake would be thrown out of court!

By Jean (79), whb on Jan 14, 10 4:40 PM
They were not found guilty of anything. Your concern may be that there was no hearing held to reach that conclusion, but they were not found guilty of anything.

They were apparently accused, and maybe the Press will post that report on the web so we can see what the basis for those reported accusations were.

Jean, how about signing on to the informal request on this blog for the Press to post the report?
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 14, 10 4:55 PM
Yes Publius-
I thought if an officer lost control of his gun that it was his responsibility unless a "Perp" wrestled it from his possession in a "knock down roll around" situation.
I have heard of weapons left on the floor in the bathroom at a bar in the early morning hours, after a night of drinking, etc., and returned to headquarters (Town) by a bartender afer having been reported stolen from a personal parked car at home (window broken and all that) and the whole affair being "swept under ...more
By whocanutrust (17), Southampton on Jan 14, 10 11:49 PM
I do not propose posting the report online so that the officers can be judged. That has already happened to some degree. The submission from IAB has been presented by the Press in a manner which gives it more credence than a mere allegation deserves.

Our Trustees have said the report plainly does not merit further inquiry. That could very well be true; or as their opponents say it is a whitewash.

Personally, it seems to me that the matter of a lost and recovered gun has gotten ...more
Jan 15, 10 8:52 AM appended by Publius
Note that the Press Editors castigated the Trustees on the Editorial Page; but have not published the report itself. The Press only published excerpts from the IAB submission on the news page. Those excerpts may have been fairly presented, or not. Who can you trust ?
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 15, 10 8:52 AM
Pubes: "Our Trustees have said the report plainly does not merit further inquiry"

Unless you have some special information -- which you always seem to have -- they didn't say any such thing, and certainly not "plainly."

The sole issue I've seen them hang their white-wash on, was one of cost.

I've seen nothing written -- either here or by the Beach Blogger -- which states that they've evaluated the SCPD IAD report and found its conclusions faulty or "does not merit further ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1826), Northampton on Jan 15, 10 9:32 AM
No "special information" here, Mr. Wheeler.

I was drawing an inference that those who did not want to pursue this with a hearing must have made such a conclusion. I also did not hear Mayor Teller say it was a whitewash, that is another inference based upon their respective actions. I am not interested in being forced to make such inferences and would prefer the facts, in this case the IAB submission.

Is the IAB submission really 90-100 pages long, was that mere surmise, or ...more
By Publius (358), Westhampton Beach on Jan 15, 10 9:48 AM
1)I'd love to read the IA report. Sign me up. So what it's 100 pages.
2)What's the difference between the words "allegation" and the IA used- "substantiated?"To me, the difference speaks volumes.
3)To WhocaNutRust above, how DARE you defile an officer good enough to be on the East End Drug Task Force as a drunk and involving his wife, when "allegedly" his firearm disappeared from a COP LOCKER? IN A POLICE STATION? Then miraculously re-appeared? In his car. Any responsible firearm owner ...more
By Jean (79), whb on Jan 17, 10 5:53 PM
By sjd (420), Westhampton Beach on Jan 15, 10 1:07 AM