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Foster, Quigley Spar at East Hampton Town Board Meeting

Quibbling aside, the associated environmental impacts of Quigley’s apartment legislation are of great concern, yet no one has mentioned this. Plain and simple, more people =more waste. In East Hampton, human waste is disposed of in cesspools and septic systems or is hauled to the scavenger waste facility on Springs-Fireplace Road. This waste contains nitrogen, a component that may be one of the greatest threats to our ground, inland, and coastal waters. The NYDEC lists the entire South Shore Estuary Reserve as impaired due to the overloading of nitrogen, and the source is wastewater. One effect due to the influx of excess nitrogen includes harmful algal blooms- these blooms are increasing across the planet and can wreak havoc on ecosystems. They degrade water quality, harm aquatic life, hurt people, and influence economies. The cascading ecosystem effects are real and have a profound effect on the environment and people. In 2010, the D.E.C. listed 43 acres of Three Mile Harbor and Hog Creek as “uncertified year-round” for shellfishing due to the detection of coliform and fecal bacteria. Accabonac Harbor, Lake Montauk, and Northwest Creek exceeded their allowable daily load levels of pathogens in 2009, causing the town to implement MS4, a storm water abatement program. D.E.C. assessments claim Three Mile Harbor and Accabonac Harbor to be at risk to pollution found in upwelling groundwater, which includes septic system leachate. Progressive decline of water quality was shown in Lake Montauk, due in part to increasing wastewater input from shoreline development. Georgica Pond is stressed from known pathogens and suspected pollution, possibly due to failing septic systems. Wainscott Pond and Fairfield Pond suffer from low dissolved oxygen levels, which negatively affect aquatic life and cause fish kills. The cause could be septic systems. There is a pattern here, and it gets deep. Groundwater is also contaminated with nitrogen. From 1987 to 2005, the nitrogen levels in the upper glacial aquifer increased by 40 percent. The Magothy aquifer had a 200-percent spike in nitrogen levels as well. Is the rise of nitrogen in our groundwater due to overdevelopment? Is the volume of human waste from overcrowded dwellings exhausting the biological ability and filtration capacity of the soils? Are current wastewater treatment systems overloaded, or are they inappropriate for today’s needs? What about the future’s needs? More importantly, what about the future’s right to clean drinking water and healthy ecosystems? Human waste is a chronic source of pollution that must be addressed before significant negative impacts occur which can change our economy, way of life, and environment. Whether nitrogen contamination is due to overdevelopment, overcrowded housing, the inability to change current wastewater treatment methods — or an unwillingness or lack of desire to change — modern technology should be utilized to reduce this threat as soon as possible. There are varieties of readily available options that reduce nitrogen levels that are commonly used in other areas. Should we move forward with Quigley’s apartment legislation and cram more people into East Hampton or should we first consider the environmental effects of Quigley’s proposal?" Jul 13, 11 5:44 PM

If you would be so kind as to provide your identity....I would be happy to discuss my thoughts with you, jo-jo." Jul 24, 11 7:47 PM

East Hampton Village Bans Plastic Bags

Mayor Rickenbach and the Village Trustees made the right decision. Entire nations have banned the bags! More than 25% of people live in areas with bag bans or fees, and this is a growing number. East Hampton Village will soon become part of this global trend-a trend that will lead us toward a sustainable future.
Thanks, Mayor!" Jul 31, 11 1:42 AM

Hampton Bays Civic Association Laments Pollution In Bays

What , exactly, is the agenda here? Awareness? Public education? I find nothing funny about dying bays and ecosystems. Save our coastal waters= preserve quality of life for residents- maintain tourism-sustain an economy based on intact natural resources (unless it is too late) ,protect the Baymen (if any are left) and allow marine inhabitants live in their only home. There's your agenda." Aug 18, 11 10:29 PM

Options Emerge For Plant, Including Privatization

Discussions regarding the Scavenger Waste Facility at Town Hall have been behind closed doors in executive sessions- most recently, after the August 18 Town Board meeting- the Board (minus the Supervisor) went into executive session to discuss their response to the notice of violations from the Department of Environmental Conservation concerning the facility. Isn't this a violation of open meetings law? Isn’t this private discussion something the public has a right to know about? The lack of transparency by the EH Town Board concerning the DEC violations and the activities at the scavenger waste facility is alarming. The Budget and Finance Advisory Committee report mentioned above recommended "robust environmental testing" back in March 2011. Upon review of records, violations, and known contaminants, a prudent Board would have begun full environmental testing. Why hasn’t testing commenced?" Sep 3, 11 3:37 PM

Committee Recommends East Hampton Seek Bidders For Plant

Discussions regarding the Scavenger Waste Facility at Town Hall have been behind closed doors in executive sessions- most recently, after the August 18 Town Board meeting- the Board (minus the Supervisor) went into executive session to discuss their response to the notice of violations from the Department of Environmental Conservation concerning the facility. Isn't this a violation of open meetings law? Isn’t this private discussion something the public has a right to know about? The lack of transparency by the EH Town Board concerning the DEC violations and the activities at the scavenger waste facility is alarming. The Budget and Finance Advisory Committee report mentioned above recommended "robust environmental testing" back in March 2011. Upon review of records, violations, and known contaminants, a prudent Board would have begun full environmental testing. Why hasn’t testing commenced?" Sep 3, 11 3:38 PM

University Signs Settlement, Ending Stony Brook Southampton Lawsuit

In regard to the “apology” that Stony Brook was to present to those affected by the discontinuance of the program at the Southampton Campus, I would like to let you know that only the 6 student petitioners are being “invited” to the apology now turned PR stunt.

The email sent to the 6 student petitioners does not say that Stanley is making an apology to anyone. What it does say is "Please join me and members of my senior staff on Monday, September 12 at 2:00 PM for a meeting in the newly dedicated Sustainability Studies Program academic space located on the first level of the Melville Library, adjacent to the Career Center.
At this meeting we will discuss the transfer of the Sustainability Program from the Southampton Campus to the main Stony Brook campus, your continuing transition to Main campus, and some of the developments that are taking place in the Sustainability Studies Program under the leadership of Martin Schoonen.
Please respond to my Executive Assistant, Carol Londoiro, at 632-6267 or carol.londoiro@stonybrook.edu to let her know if you are able to attend.
Sincerely,

Samuel L. Stanley Jr., M.D.
President
Stony Brook University

I responded and asked to attend the September 12 meeting, and this was the Universities response.

Ms. Klughers,
I am writing to let you know that this is a closed, by-invitation-only meeting, and individuals not directly invited by President Stanley will not be able to attend.
Carol Londoiro
Executive Assistant to the President

I have since asked for an invitation and have received no reply. It is my understanding that of one of the petitioners parents who asked to attend was also sent a similar denial email as was a member of the SAVE group- also a petitioner on the lawsuit.

This should be public information and not for the ears of a select few! Many people were affected by this illegal closure, including past, present, and future students, employees who lost their jobs, and the taxpayers of the state of New York, to name a few. Please let it be known that President Stanley not only ignored State Education Law, (and was found guilty of such in a NY State Supreme Court) disregarded court orders,(he was also found in contempt of court) he is now ignoring the settlement agreement that he proposed (proposed is putting it politely) to the petitioners.
This is outrageous and this “meeting” should be open to whomever would like to attend.

ALSO-The $30,000.00 legal fee was paid for by Stony Brook Foundation money. This not-for-profit's mission statement is as follows...
"The mission of the Stony Brook Foundation is to advance the mission and goals of Stony Brook University by facilitating, accepting, and managing philanthropic gifts and grants for the benefit of the University, the University Medical Center, and the Long Island State Veterans Home." http://www.stonybrook.edu/sb/giving/foundation-questions.shtml
" Sep 4, 11 12:05 PM

Thiele Calls For Transparency From Stanley

FYI to Mr. Blumenthal and anyone else interested in the source of the $30,000.00 legal fee payment. The bill was paid for by the Stony Brook Foundation- not SUNY or SBU or taxpayer dollars. Classified as a public charity, the Stony Brook Foundation is a private, 501(c)(3), nonprofit corporation. They cut the check for Stanley’s $30,000.00 blunder . Funding for the SBFoundation comes from voluntary donations- not taxpayer dollars. "The mission of the Stony Brook Foundation is to advance the mission and goals of Stony Brook University by facilitating, accepting, and managing philanthropic gifts and grants for the benefit of the University, the University Medical Center, and the Long Island State Veterans Home." Check out http://www.stonybrook.edu/sb/giving/foundation- questions.shtml for more information. Apparently, they also pay legal bills for illegal actions by the University President.
I do not beleive that there will EVER be a sustainability conference for the “displaced” (or other) students at Southampton (or anywhere else for that matter) if Stanley has anything to do with it. Does he seem like someone who follows the rules- or even pretends to play nice? Most of the “displaced” students have either left Stony Brook, or will graduate well before this 2013 conference is to take place. So, Mr. Blumenthal, thanking (blaming?) Mr. Thiele for something that never occurred and for a future event that may never take place is silly (political?).
As one of the students affected by Stanley’s despicable shutdown of a once thriving campus devoted to the environment and sustainability, I asked to attend the September 12 meeting. Stony Brook University’s response was, "Ms. Klughers, I am writing to let you know that this is a closed, by-invitation-only meeting, and individuals not directly invited by President Stanley will not be able to attend.”
I have since asked for an invitation and have received no reply. It is my understanding that past and present SBU/SBS students, as well as SAVE members (the not-for-profit named as a petitioner on the lawsuit) are not on President Stanley’s "guest list". The six student petitioners, a few politicians, and members of Stanley’s "senior staff" are the only invited guests. Many people were affected by this illegal closure, including past, present, and future students, those who lost their jobs, and the taxpayers of the state of New York, to name a few. Please let it be known that President Stanley not only ignored State Education Law, (and was found guilty of such in a NY State Supreme Court) disregarded court orders,(he was also found in contempt of court) he is now ignoring the settlement agreement that he proposed (proposed is putting it politely) to the petitioners. This is outrageous and this “meeting” should be open to whoever would like to attend.
Thanks are due to Fred Thiele for his continual support on this matter. Let the sun shine in….
" Sep 6, 11 8:38 PM

It’s getting a little clearer now... As per the settlement agreement, which I hear Stanley claims he will follow (to the letter), “The purpose of the meeting is for the President to have an opportunity to apologize for the disruption to the lives of the student-petitioners AND OTHER STUDENTS…" Hey Sam- define OTHER STUDENTS, please.
Stanley’s new email –sent to his updated guest list reads...."Please respond to my Executive Assistant, Carol Londoiro at carol.londoiro@stonybrook.edu or 632-6267 to let her know if you are able to attend. If you plan to attend, please bring your student ID". A little clearer, except the new invite only went to a few, select students. I heard that only about 50 students, who are currently enrolled in the Sustainability program, have been added to the guest list. If that’s true- then it’s not very transparent, is it? FYI Sam-the first degree offered at Stony Brook Southampton was a degree in Environmental Studies from SoMAS. After a few semesters, the Sustainability programs were added. Many SoMAS students were attending Southampton and their lives were disrupted as well. DUH! Where is their invite? Graduates of Stony Brook Southampton (yes- there are a few) may have been affected as well. It was not only the 6 petitioners-or the 50 students currently enrolled in Sustainability programs that were affected by Stanley’s actions. My opinion is that ALL Stony Brook University students have lost something, and EVERY Stony Brook University student should be invited to this farce-uh- I mean meeting. Heck- there should be no invite or RSVP necessary! Plain and simple-this meeting must be OPEN to ALL students.
Actually, I believe that the meeting should be open to the PUBLIC (including media).That SBU is still not inviting the public or the press to the meeting is telling. What is there to hide? A friend of mine said that Stanley should be pleased with his actions and want everyone to know about them. For him to respond in this manner reveals that his agenda is a manifestation of the dark side of human nature. Scary… Stanley should be willing to discuss his past actions and vision for the future of the Sustainability programs in an open, public meeting. SBU is a PUBLIC University, after all.
(Perhaps the “meeting” date should be changed-so that if any others are added to the guest list, they can schedule accordingly.)
" Sep 9, 11 2:48 AM

Your apology was more sincere than Stans." Sep 14, 11 12:17 AM

East Hampton Town's Tentative Budget Includes Tax Cuts, Sale Of Poxabogue

Concerning the scavenger waste facility, the BFAC recommended "a robust environmental study of ground and water conditions" before any new contracts or leases are entered into. When are these studies to commence? In 2010, the facility exceeded the output of mercury by 6611%. That is a lot of mercury! Discharges of nitrogen, dissolved solids, and iron have been above allowable limits – racking up 129 violations between February 2008 and March 2011.The facility has run under non-compliance for 12 of the past 12 quarters. The contaminant-loaded effluent is discharged onto the ground. Is the water beneath the facility at risk? The BFAC also determined that there needs to be substantial upgrades to the facility in order to bring it up to date- and into compliance with DEC and other regulations. Who is going to pay for these improvements and when will this occur? How about that stench that emanates from the facility? According to Bill Wilkinson- via a statement made at a Work Session- a short tour of the facility gave him a headache that lasted for 2 weeks. What about the health of the people who live and work in that area? When do we think about the people, the environment, and the financial implications when making decisions that concerns all of East Hampton? Everything is connected- and we should all be concerned about the future of this facility. I hope public hearings are on the horizon for this very important and complex issue. Passing the facility off to someone else to run, citing the BFAC report as the impetus, while ignoring the rest of the report is irresponsible and immoral." Oct 5, 11 5:33 PM

East Hampton Food Pantry Goes Green, Saves Green

THANK YOU Green Logic !! Save money- help the planet-lower greenhouse gas emmissions viafree energy from the sun....perfect!" Oct 8, 11 1:01 PM

Democrats Say They Will Fight For Resources

You lose the bet, but you are right- you really cannot make this stuff up. The point of the article was not to cite public information-such as past or pending budgets, but rather to introduce the platform of the Democratic and Working Family Party candidates for the nine available positions on the governing body of the East Hampton Trustees. Despite that, here you go….
2008-2011 budgets-page 100
2012 tentative budget -page 116
It is all easily accessible information- provided here for the public and you, Miss B, to peruse….
Do YOU have any idea how much money the Trustees have “in trust“ for US? There is plenty of information contained in the general ledgers of the Trustees - I will let Board Watcher research that one herself .... We Democratic candidates know the deal- we are smart, capable, and well informed. We will work in the best interest of the entire community. This is not about politics- but rather the stewardship of the commons of East Hampton, managed for the benefit of the people of East Hampton, now and for the future. Ever hear of grants to fund initiatives that would benefit all of the people (and the environment), including yourself? Are positive externalities something with which you are familiar? No one, except you, said that we are telling the Trustees what to do. By the way- the Trustees have fiduciary duties to the people of East Hampton- it is not “their” money- it is ours. Have a wonderful weekend.
" Oct 29, 11 2:42 AM

East Hampton Town Moves To Address Environmental Violations At Waste Processing Plant

As per the March 22, 2011 report from the Budget and Finance Advisory Committee (BFAC) : "We found that the current scavenger waste plant is old and will probably need substantial repairs and upgrades for it to comply with minimum DEC and other environmental requirements...Continuing the present contract for ST to operate the scavenger plant is not cost effective for taxpayers who are subsidizing current plant operations. Whether the scavenger plant is to be operated by a private lessee for its own account or by the Town directly or is modified to function solely as a transfer station operated by private parties or the Town, we recommend that before any new third party contract or lease is executed, there should be a robust environmental study of the existing scavenger plant operations and ground and water conditions. Such study, among other things, would ascertain if continuing operations at the plant will aggravate existing environmental conditions. We all believe that such a study is critical and recommend that it should be commissioned as soon as possible since its availability would make the RFP process more productive. Whatever operations are to be conducted at the site, we recommend continuous and careful monitoring of ongoing operations by the Town as well as state agencies."
So,the Board listens to the recomendations of the BFAC EXCEPT when it comes to the ROBUST ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING?? The "study is critical " and "should be commissioned as soon as possible". Is anyone out there paying any attention to this? When is the Board going to perform soil and water testing?" Nov 25, 11 3:50 PM

Southampton Town Board Holds Off On Plastic Bag Ban

How about save the planet and save yourself!? Is this an issue to some because the plastics industry is the third largest manufacturing industry in America? Plastic bags are made from petrochemicals. More specifically, we use ethylene, which is the most produced organic compound on Earth, and is derived from natural gas and petroleum. These organic compounds are non-renewable resources! We have a LIMITED supply of petrochemicals and one would think that humanity would choose to use these dwindling natural resources to benefit the present and future inhabitants of our planet, rather than manufacture single use plastic bags. Is anyone who is against plastic bag bans familiar with hydrofracking? How about oil shale extraction or offshore petroleum drilling and exploration? Paper bags are made from renewable resources. We grow trees specifically for this use, and in the end, paper that is not recycled, biodegrades. Plastic photodegrades, breaking down into smaller and smaller pieces…over time, a lot of time. We started using plastic bags in the 1950’s and remnants of 50-year-old plastic have been found in oceanic plankton today. Therefore, this stuff is here to stay-and it has worked its way well into the food chain. Of course, manufacturing any kind of bag (paper, plastic, bioplastic, cotton…..) affects the environment, but the best alternative is to BRING YOUR OWN BAG. The future will thank us. I am looking forward the county tax on bags- how about you?

" Dec 21, 11 12:27 AM

East Hampton Town Board Members Divided On Future of Scavenger Waste Plant

I do not want our ground and coastal waters to be “held hostage” by a for –profit private entity whose main responsibility is to its shareholders- and not to people of East Hampton or the waters that we cherish." Feb 15, 12 2:22 PM

The company that wants to take over the facility may pursue a major modification to the SPEDES permit . A major modification means a daily volume increase in the flow of more than 50% of the current daily average permitted discharge (as per the oneRFP response ). This would necessitate trucking in waste from outside town lines. Increased septage input = increased effluent INTO our GROUNDWATER. The effluent in not innocuous. The potential new SPEDES permit holder also would like to LOWER the current DEC standards. This whole deal stinks. There are alternatives. There are modern methods available. We can reclaim the water and sell it to golf courses-Hey - there is a golf course right next door! How convenient! WE (meaning WE the people) should NOT have to surrender control to the one response to the RFP for 30 years or for ever- whichever the Board chooses. We should DEMAND alternatives .There are alternatives. We should slow this down a notch and continue to run it as a transfer station until we get a chance to digest .............. When is the public hearing?

" Feb 16, 12 2:04 AM

The water- that is the real issue here. Water. You can live without many things- but not without water. 120+ DEC violations, non-compliance with NYSDEC rules in 12 of the last 12 quarters. So far, no fines levied via the “over-site” of the DEC..... All our waters are connected-both underground and coastal-this affects all of us- whether or not interested people live in EH is irrelevant. It would be nice to look at this with a regional approach. What about the new SH Hospital site? Are they still building a new hospital? They could build a state of the art wastewater treatment facility for all East End Towns to use…." Feb 16, 12 1:57 PM

Give them time and perhaps they can come up with alternatives. They have been in office ~6 weeks. They were given the response to the RFP on a Monday afternoon and were expected to have a decision the following morning. Why was that? And no, I don’t have a cost benefit analysis handy- but neither does the Board--Do you have one handy? Perhaps you can pass it to your friends at town hall and they might share it with the public. The Budget Officer has a draft of something that few have seen- as it is a draft.... The costs of the tipping fees that the new operators will charge are not even available to the public. It is not in the RFP response. Does anyone know? Our Supervisor said he is not going to look at ANY other proposals. Why not? How about a new RFP where we tell the respondents what we want as a community rather than the other way around. The RFP was bad and the response was horrible. Why rush into a bad deal? What’s missing in ALL of this is pubic information, input, discussion, and an openness to alternatives by some EH Town Board members." Feb 17, 12 11:41 AM

For the past 10 years the plant was run by a private entity, not the Town of EH. The town paid the company almost 80G per month to operate the plant. The SPEDES permit belongs to the town- which is why the violations went to the town, and not the company. " Feb 18, 12 11:29 PM

Sag Harbor Waters Closed To Shellfishing After Samples Turn Up Neurotoxin

A marine dinoflagellate-probably of the genus Alexandrium- produces the neurotoxin, saxitoxin. The toxins accumulate in filter feeding shellfish and can move through the food web. It can also affect zooplankton, fish larvae, adult fish, birds, marine mammals, and humans. It can kill .Alexandrium was first identified in the Shinnecock Bay three years ago. This alga is unlike the ‘brown tide’ that has caused problems since the mid 1980’s. Brown tide does not physically harm humans, even though it has wrecked havoc on the economy and entire ecosystems. The red tide bloom is caused by excess nitrogen and other stuff like light and temperature.... Nitrogen leaches into the coastal waters from groundwater that is contaminated with septic waste. Septic waste contains high levels of nitrogen, and it is harming our coastal waters. " Apr 27, 12 1:26 PM

East Hampton Wary As Red Tide Hits Southamtpon

The talk was very informative and comprehensive. Thank you Dr. Gobller! For those who missed it, this was filmed and will air on LTV, channel 22." Jun 2, 12 12:57 PM

Litter Committee Pitches Plastic Bag Ban In East Hampton Town

Hmmm.....Guess you cant post links here.
Reduce-Reuse-Recycle-Repeat" Jul 6, 12 5:23 PM

Circus’ Return Draws Critics As Trainers Refute Abuse Allegations

Cole Bros. Circus was charged with violating the Animal Welfare Act. In April 2012, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) announced that the Cole Bros. Circus and its president, John Pugh, had agreed to pay $15,000 to settle charges that it "willfully violated" the Animal Welfare Act. The charges cited multiple alleged violations:
• failure to provide adequate veterinary care to animals; specifically, one elephant was found to be severely underweight.
• failure to handle an elephant during public exhibition in a way that assured the safety of the animal and the public. The circus employed a handler who lacked adequate training and experience in handling elephants. The USDA found that the handler, “repeatedly hit the elephant with an ankus during both rides and circus performance.”
• employing a tiger handler who “lacked adequate training, knowledge and experience in handling tigers.”" Jul 26, 12 7:54 PM

There are videos online showing how baby Val was "trained"so that people can be "entertained". Abuse is NOT entertainment- but it seem as it is to some...poor baby elephants!!! Baby Hugo- only a little over a year old and Vals baby brother.... is the newest addition to Cole Brothers - and touted as the youngest performing elephant. Performing means TRAINING!! And you MUST see how these animals are trained. It is NOT through kindness. So so sad! I hope people watch the videos and realize what is going on. " Jul 26, 12 7:57 PM

Company Proposes Wind Turbine Farm Offshore From Montauk

One way it differs is that this proposal is "30 miles east of Montauk and about 20 miles south of the Massachusetts and Rhode Island mainland" while the Cape Wind project is about 5.2 miles from the nearest shore and about 13.8 miles from Nantucket Island. " Jul 29, 12 2:21 AM

Non-renewable natural resources such as petroleum products and natural gas are limited. Someday in the near future, (or perhaps in the recent past) production levels will decline and prices will undoubtedly rise. We can hydrofrack for natural gas and extract tar sands and oil shale from the Earth all day long. However, exploiting these resources is economically and environmentally costly. In addition, you will have the “side effects” of combusting hydrocarbons to contend with- well into the future.
There are only so much of these precious natural resources-and then they are gone- then what do we do? We develop new technology- it’s called renewable energy. OK- we did that! The next step is to put it into wide scale use. Renewable energy can power the Earth and most certainly Long Island. Think about future generations- what will they use to power the planet? No worries at all- we have the Sun – which has powered the planet for 4.54 billion years and should be around for a few more years, if we are lucky. We have all we need to power today and tomorrow. It is time to change… to clean renewable energy.
" Jul 31, 12 11:22 PM

Conservation is a good approach- but hasn’t worked. In the end-we will still run out of petro- resources … all the while increasing levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and exacerbating ocean acidification. The oceans are 30% more acidic than they were 250 years ago. This is not good for marine life- or humans who rely on the seas. Stuff like food, water, tourism, commerce, transportation, recreation, minerals, climate control for the Earth, biomedical organisms, jobs, and even cosmetics come from the oceans, just to name a few. Then you have the intrinsic value of the seas to add……" Jul 31, 12 11:30 PM

Peconic Baykeeper: New East End Water Bodies Classified As Impaired; Old Ones Still On List

Climate change-overpopulation-over consumption-overfishing-colony collapse disorder-tons of pesticides, herbicides &chemicals dumped onto our blue planet-water scarcity-water pollution-nuclear power- factory farming-genetically engineered food-war-famine-drought-business as usual-Extinction is forever…" Sep 14, 12 9:25 PM

At East Hampton High School, Water Fountains Can Filler Up

Thank you Miriah and EH High School!!" Sep 20, 12 9:32 PM

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