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Trespassing charges dropped against East Quogue woman arrested near ANG base; wrongful arrest lawsuits filed

Let's examine the stories that have appeared in The Southampton Press recently about inappropriate police behavior:

The STPD: Mobs a Town Council Meeting in uniform & insults the Supervisor. Repeats the performance a year later sans uniforms.

The Westhampton Beach PD: Two officers suspended for stealing another officers gun and planting it in his car to discredit him.

The Suffolk County Sheriffs Dept: Undersheriff arrests a woman on trespassing charges when he knows that she wasn't trespassing after she has been cleared by the DEA, FBI, DHS, ATF, CIA, NSA and AARP. (Sorry, got carried away with the acronyms.)

Do you see a pattern of behavior here that suggests arrogance, ineptitude, and unprofessional conduct?

The fact is that unless their elected superiors keep the police on a short leash with no slack, a police department will degenerate into a gang the serves its own interests rather than the public. We aren't there yet but the above incidents show that we are on the road. What the East End needs is a supervisory authority with no local political interests to investigate the East End police departments and restructure them so that they answer to their Chief of Police and the elected civilian authorities ALONE and not to the PBA. The various incorporated municipalities out here should apply to the NYS Attorney General for just such and investigation.

Lastly, one deluded soul compared the East End police to combat troops. Give me a break. This is like comparing a Corgi to a wolf.
" Nov 23, 09 2:28 PM

Southampton Hospital receives $5 million for Emergency Department

Thanks to the Paulsons for their generous gift. I hope that the new Emergency Room will be a stand-alone facility, or at least one that can be made to stand alone with minimal alterations down the road.

The future of the Alliance hospitals is bleak, but the communities of the East End will always need a local acute care facility." Nov 24, 09 12:16 PM

East Hampton Village will auction Sea Spray Cottage leases

Government should do more than to cater to the stupendously wealthy. These leases will be won by bidders in the hundreds of thousands of dollars who will use them as cabanas.

Here's an idea. Drop the entire auction plan. Let the current residents stay in possession at market rates until they die or move. Then, offer the cottages to the next person on the waiting list.

Alternatively, level a special, "use tax", of $10K/annually on the homes of the Village Trustees. We would hate to do it, but, to quote Mayor Rickenbach, "Please don't take it personally"." Nov 24, 09 5:43 PM

Trespassing charges dropped against East Quogue woman arrested near ANG base; wrongful arrest lawsuits filed

Except that it ISN'T illegal. Other than than, your opinion is noted." Nov 24, 09 5:51 PM

Supreme Court lifts injunction on use of Aldrich Park

This is a pure 1st Amendment question, as others have noted. Denying rights to one class sets the precedent for denying them to all.

The influx of illegal Hispanics is wholly the fault of the federal government. It could be ended completely if enough money and manpower were applied. The face is that the Republicans won't because their constituency, "loves those hardworking, cheap Mexicans", to quote one Republican Congressman, and the Democrats are afraid of alienating Hispanic voters. (Grossly speaking, other factors also apply.)

I empathize with these people. Yes, they send $$B home every year to their families to better their lives. That seems admirable to me. A few of them commit crimes and violate our vehicle laws, but most of them work hard and keep their heads down.

Their culture and language is foreign. That was true of many of our ancestors and they were pilloried for it. But if the Feds ever get their act together and end the deluge, those remaining and their descendents will be absorbed seamlessly into American society, (which will be somewhat different because of their cultural contribution).

Its hard for me to get angry at a group that has stormed our borders to WORK. The fact is that we can't survive as the economic life boat of Central America but these folks are doing exactly what our folks did generations ago.

" Nov 25, 09 11:20 AM


When I said that Hispanics are doing the same thing that our ancestors did, I referred to immigrating for economic reasons. Some immigrants arrived because of persecution, but the vast majority came here to take advantage of the relatively highly-paid work available.

Frankly, I don't know if my ancestors were legal or illegal. It's been that long.

Since I esteem familial ties over national ones, the fact that Hispanics wire a lot of their earnings home is laudable in my eyes.

I think that it is a national policy mistake to allow immigration in the current numbers. Non-english speaking immigrants create cultural ghettos where they associate with each other. This can delay the incorporation into American life of the group for generations, as happened with the Italian immigrants and as has, and is, happening with the Asian immigrants. But the statutory law would prevent this were it enforced.

I do agree with you that immigrants should not be permitted access unless they intend to become citizens rather than just using America as a cash machine. However, this is near impossible for an illegal Hispanic man with his family still living south of the border.

It's wishful thinking, but the Feds should create a national identity card, (based on social security identification, fingerprinting and DNA), that would allow us to discover just who is here illegally. From that point on, illegals should be treated on a case by case basis. Those who have labored honestly should be put on the citizen track with the intent that they be allowed to bring their immediate family in at a later date. Those that have become criminals should be deported.

However, none of this will happen because the political will to do it is absent in Congress." Nov 25, 09 4:37 PM

Oddone won't take stand; both sides rest, and closing arguments slated Tuesday

"It is possible that new, lesser charges will be introduced before the jury is left to its deliberations. . . "

Duh." Nov 25, 09 8:09 PM

Supreme Court lifts injunction on use of Aldrich Park

To elliot:I

I googled "Latino Justice, Hamptons", and searched it in this publication and I still don't know what you are talking about. Why not just state it plainly?" Nov 25, 09 8:21 PM

Trespassing charges dropped against East Quogue woman arrested near ANG base; wrongful arrest lawsuits filed

To beersmom,

Your post is hysterical and callous.

Recall the sensational mass murder cases and imagine how different the outcome would have been had any of the victims been armed." Nov 27, 09 10:00 PM

Truly amazing posts.

First, the hoplophobes try to finesse reality to make Ms. Genovese culpable even though she is and was completely innocent.

Then, when this won't fly, they claim that she is a media whore.

Her posts on this site are replies to the specious and preternaturally stupid personal attacks by irrational hysterics. If you don't want her to post further, stop posting rubbish yourselves." Nov 28, 09 12:29 PM

Throne-Holst budget revisions approved by Southampton Town Board

Following is the relevant Town law regarding the compulsory retirement of STPD officers after twenty years service:

Authorization for Southampton Town Police Officers to Continue in Service After Completion of 20 Years of Service

Status Adopted
Department Personnel
Meeting 11/20/2008 10:00:00 AM
Category Personnel

WHEREAS, Subdivision m of section 384-d of the retirement and social security law, as added by chapter 1117 of the laws of 1971, and amended to read as follows, "m. Notwithstanding any inconsistent provision of law, if the town board of the town of Southampton elects to make the benefits of this section available to the members of its police department, each member of such department shall be separated from service upon completion of twenty years of service, provided, however, that the town board may permit a member to continue in service on an annual basis after the completion of twenty years of service, but in no event shall such annual service be continued after a member has attained age fifty-five, except however, that members of such department who hold the rank of sergeant or higher within such department may be permitted by the town board to remain in service until the member has attained age sixty; and

WHEREAS, the Town Board adopted Resolution 1199 on September 9, 2003, which adopted amended provision of Section 348-d(m) pursuant to Chapter 132 of the Laws of 2003." Dec 1, 09 1:31 AM

Trespassing charges dropped against East Quogue woman arrested near ANG base; wrongful arrest lawsuits filed

Dear Nancy,

I think that it is time to pull the plug on this thread. It has gone on for so long that new posters are entering who are have not followed the discussion. They are repeating the groundless opinions that have already been addressed and are using the forum to libel you.

The circumstances of your arrest and imprisonment are so outrageous that your civil court victory is a foregone conclusion, only the AMOUNT of the award is in question.

Let that assuage your anger over your Unamerican treatment. Further posting here will only encourage ignorant ideologues to bait you further and to vent their spleen.

" Dec 1, 09 12:26 PM

Oddone won't take stand; both sides rest, and closing arguments slated Tuesday

To username1:

He won't walk. Reasonable doubt has been raised to the crime of murder but he will be found guilty of some crime. The prosecution will request that the jury be allowed to consider lesser charges all the way don to negligent homicide. My guess is that the jury will find for Manslaughter in the Second Degree.

[Section 125.15 Manslaughter in the second degree

A person is guilty of manslaughter in the second degree when:

1. He recklessly causes the death of another person; . . .]
" Dec 1, 09 1:04 PM


As I was posting the above, the Southampton Press published an article saying that the prosecution had requested that the jury be allowed to consider Manslaughter in the First Degree and Criminally Negligent Homicide. No mention of Manslaughter in the 2nd Degree. At a guess, the prosecution may think that Man 2 would be too cheap for the crime and is giving the jury a choice between a fairly significant penalty, (Man 1), and virtually nothing, (negligent homicide). Or the report could be incomplete." Dec 1, 09 1:12 PM

Oddone jury will consider lesser charges

The only reason that I can see for both prosecution and defense resisting a Man 2 charge is that the former thinks that it is too cheap a penalty and the latter may want to make the jury decide between Man 1 and Negligent Homicide.

Without Man 2, I think that it will be Negligent Homicide.

I think that the prosecution has erred. The jury thinks that Oddone is culpable, but not of a premeditated act. Man 2 would have flown." Dec 1, 09 8:27 PM

Jury now deliberating in Oddone trial

Looks more than ever like a Man 2 verdict. The judge had to insert it as an alternative verdict sua sponte when both the prosecution and the defense demurred. That indicates to me that that's the verdict for which he is looking. It was a mistake for the prosecution to have opposed it, since I think that the jury would otherwise plump for negligent homicide. Also, Merrifield asked the jury to be UNMERCIFUL!? How dumb is that ?

What a shame. Dumb, alcohol-fueled childishness ends in death. Some people cause pain before they grow old enough to know that they should never drink." Dec 2, 09 6:41 PM

Defense seeks mistrial; Judge rejects motion

Wow! Somebody READS our comments other than we!? I am shocked." Dec 3, 09 12:32 PM

Westhampton Beach Village Board will soon decide who will hear charges against suspended officers

At the Dec. 2 Board Meeting, the Village Board voted 3-1 to rescind the suspension of the officers and to direct the Chief of Police to vacate the charges against them. While they CAN do the first, they cannot do the second.

(Something is odd with this article. It seems to be a week old on posting.)" Dec 3, 09 12:46 PM

Cowabunga! This superannuated article appears under, "News, Southampton", while the relevant, current article appears under, "Home". Both with the byline of Hallie D. Martin; both dated Dec.3. But the latter article does not accept comments, even though it is a Village Board report and not a police report.

---------------------------------- COPY EDITOR! -----------------------------------------" Dec 3, 09 1:09 PM

Ooops, editor, now I see your note. Was that always there?" Dec 3, 09 1:10 PM

Suspended Westhampton Beach Village Police officers return to work

I am glad that the kingdom of Westhampton Beach has asserted its suzerainty to New York State. Now its citizens will be able to dispose of costly criminal matters simply by presenting them to a vote by the Village Board of Trustees.

One is reminded of the Danny Kaye film, "The Inspector General". "Hail, Westhampton Beach - - - to the stars."" Dec 3, 09 1:20 PM

Suspended Westhampton Beach Village Police officers return to work

A passerby happened to video the Village Board of Trustees as they convened their meeting. Here is the link:


(Start at 4:10)" Dec 3, 09 2:17 PM

To the Editor:

"The Inspector General is one of a number of major Hollywood productions from the 1940s and 1950s that have lapsed into the public domain in the United States." [Wiki]

Put me back." Dec 3, 09 5:13 PM

Thanks." Dec 4, 09 1:12 PM

Co-defendant in mortgage fraud scheme pleads guilty

Yes, Ellner is undoubtedly a rat. With all the documentary evidence at the prosecution's disposal, why did Spota feel the need to offer him a deal? The article notes the felonies to which he pled guilty but not the felonies with which he was originally charged. (Want to bet that one of them was FIRST degree grand larceny?)

His status as a co-conspirator and felon makes his testimony inadmissible unless corroborated, so his evidentiary use against the other defendants is minimal. Spota may have saved the county some money in administrative costs, but Ellner will walk with a sharp wrist slap for his crimes.

Bad call." Dec 4, 09 9:54 PM

Jury deliberations continue in Oddone murder trial

To username1:

Accepting, for the sake of argument, that this incident involved, "an agressive attack from an (sic) HUGE physically unfit, moonlighting in a bar, untrained, wannabe bouncer", as you say, Oddone's killing of Reister is still a criminal act. Self-defense could be argued right up to the point at which Reister was incapacitated. After that point, something other than self-defense is going on.

The jury is being called on to decide what that something in Oddone's mind was during the time that he continued to choke Reister. The defense has met the burden of establishing a reasonable doubt to the murder charge but everything below that is still in play.

" Dec 5, 09 1:36 PM

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