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U.S. Representive Tim Bishop details new initiatives

There is a terrific non-partisan book about the history of federal spending. Deficit spending has been a bi-partisan approach to government for 30 years.

Don't bother to reference the Clinton interlude when we had increased tax revenues during the dot.com bubble. (Not picking on Pres. Clinton, just anticipating common response I have heard.)

Debt that our children and grandchildren will pay is still debt. That is true whether you chest thumping hawk that spends on wars,

or a bleeding heart liberal lending a hand to the poor, downtrodden souls in this country.

Until we get the idea that WE should only buy what WE pay for now, the problems we leave our children and grandchildren will only be larger, worse, and last longer.

the link to the book on amazon is:

http://www.amazon.com/Where-Does-Money-Go-Federal/dp/0061241873/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1261423410&sr=1-1-spell" Dec 21, 09 2:34 PM

East End still digging out after record snow

This was the biggest snow storm in a long time.

I would rather not pay for a fleet of trucks, tons of salt / sand, and an enormous workforce to stand-by at the ready for a storm that comes along once every ten years. A small inconvenience once every decade is no big deal.

Enjoy some quiet time and appreciate your surroundings while the crews help dig out." Dec 21, 09 10:16 PM

Zappone to be appointed deputy supervisor of Southampton Town

The old "cup of coffee" argument.

This is a tired old argument that gets dragged out for every school expansion, every library expansion, essentially every tax increase.

$7.83 / week is over $400 dollars each year, and that is for you, and every neighbor on the block, in every hamlet throughout the town. Of course for some homes that is more, some less, depending on the assessed value.

All together it is a lot of money for policing a town which has the least crime of all the Towns on the East End. PD don't dare take credit for the low crime rate, it is more a matter of socioeconomics more than anything else. " Dec 22, 09 11:31 AM

Not in uniform. Free speech is a private right. Wearing the uniform was an effort to augment private speech with a public display of force and intimidation." Dec 22, 09 11:37 AM

Blizzard snarls life on the East End

Now I feel important. My street was great. In fact every street I took to work yesterday was great. I must be surrounded by important people.

Pretty good for a record snow fall.

Look at the kids in the picture above and you can't help but smile. Those kids are enjoying this weather event." Dec 22, 09 2:00 PM

Shinnecocks are looking at benefits that come with federal recognition

There have been many black people who suffered through slavery (white people too for that matter).

There are many Native Americans who were displaced from their homes and treated to say the least very poorly.

The Jewish people have been kicked around a lot too.

There are entire peoples who have been the victim genocide and nations that no longer exist.

In the melting pot of genetic recombination we can all point to some egregious wrong inflicted upon our ancestors. Horrible, horrible, horrible.

The argument that the tribe can't mortgage its property is offered as a complaint? They own land that remains untaxed, and the reason it can't be mortgaged is because no one else can touch it to satisfy the mortgage if they didn't pay back the loan.

Like every other citizen they can buy land and a home and pay taxes and have exactly what everyone else has.

Instead, some of the Shinnecock want something more and different. Can't blame them for asking as long as there are people who will listen. " Dec 23, 09 10:57 AM

Who has had a boot on their neck, yesterday? the week before? a year ago? ten years ago? 25 years ago? 50 years ago? 75 years ago?

As for generalized discrimination by one group against another it goes on everyday. People like to be in clubs, whether it is shared racial identity, co-religionists, political ideology, frat house, sorority house... the list is endless.

As for stereotyping someone who has lived on the reservation; can you tell by looking at someone where they live or have lived? In some cases yes, in the cases of the Shinnecock, clearly no." Dec 23, 09 1:56 PM

Southampton Town Board delays reorganization meeting

Maybe they should just postpone everything until after the special election (tongue in cheek). With the exception of routine business, what is going to be accomplished?

RIP, Harris Palmer." Jan 5, 10 9:27 AM

U.S. Representive Tim Bishop details new initiatives

How about true economic reform? No government handouts for rich or poor. You make a bad decision, live with it. Make a bad loan, take out a bad loan, deal with it. You build a home on the beach? You're an idiot, better have a boat, life jacket and some oars.

The premise that we need moneylenders or a powerful government are antithetical to origins of this nation. This is not to say short term, temporary credit is bad, or that government which performs some basic functions isn't a good thing.

Only that their respective roles in society have become out-sized. " Jan 6, 10 8:34 AM

Parties gear up for nominating committees

It is routinely usurped when the parties cross endorse candidates." Jan 6, 10 12:38 PM

Trustees reject mayor's attempt to add seven resolutions after walk-out in Westhampton Beach

DYSFUNCTIONAL is the repeated epithet for the Westhampton Beach PD and it applies equally to the entire Board of Trustees and the Mayor.

The following facts are uncontested:

We have have one Police Officer who lost his gun and he suspected the shenanigans of fellow officers with whom he does not get along. The loss of a gun is no joke. So if the Police Officer negligently lost his gun, it doesn't look good for him; and if other officers are playing such games, well, it isn't really a game at all. It's mean.

In the end the gun was found in the Police Officer's own vehicle after he had returned home. His suspicions remained that the gun was placed back in his car by his fellow officers because he had already searched the car. The gun was found by the Police Officer's wife. Absent fingerprints, touch DNA

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=experts-touch-dna-jonbenet-ramsey

or an admission by the responsible person(s), there is no way to know whether the Police Officer lost his own gun; whether his wife was involved in the original loss and/or reappearance; or whether a fellow officer(s) caused the disappearance / reappearance of the gun.

What did the Chief, the Board of Trustees and the Mayor do? They called for an investigation; both lay claim to that decision, that is in dispute, but all agreed previously that referring this matter to an outside agency was the smart thing to do.

Now there has been MORE investigation of the police themselves, by police, than has happened for any other crime in the village. All you have to do is look at the police blotter and see that the department is very good at stopping people with suspended driver's licenses. Not much else going on in the way of crime stopped or crime solved. (Not that we don't have any serious crime, Westhampton Steakhouse, most recent with New Years Eve stabbings.)

SHOULDA, WOULDA, COULDA...

What does "The Good Chief of Police" do ?

1. Bring in the Officer who lost the gun that was later recovered. Explain that there is no way to determine who was responsible for the loss/recovery of the gun, but that one thing is clear. There is a problem between this Officer and his suspected colleagues, lets address this. What is the reason for such suspicions and what can be done to resolve the personality conflict; and

2. Bring in each suspected Officer separately and if there is no admission to involvement in the loss of the gun, move on to the undeniable conflict between the officers, and address it; and

3. That is the end of it, except for the ongoing obligation to encourage officers to get along and require them to actually do their respective jobs. Not busy work, but actual work. There are investigations that have not been completed, there is surveillance to be done. This is particularly the case in the quieter winter months when burglaries of summer homes are on the rise. Keep idle time to a minimum, but not with BS assignments. Be proactive, make sure officers are instructed on how to investigate crimes, preserve evidence, understand court proceedings so that they can comfortably testify when called. Otherwise, when it hits the fan and an arrestee is the Town Supervisor, there are long odds against the case being successfully concluded because Officers aren't ready for a real challenge by a real attorney.

What does "A Good Board" and "A Good Mayor" do ? Stay out of the way of The Good Police Chief.

WELL WE KNOW that didn't happen at all.

What did happen is that a dead investigation into the loss/recovery of the gun was referred to the Suffolk County PD Internal Affairs Bureau (It would be a mistake to presume the integrity of that unit.) Did our Chief or Board/Mayor really think that, like Lazarus of Bethany, this dead investigation into the loss/recovery of the gun could be resurrected?

If anyone did, they are dumb. If they just wanted a declaration of the obvious, that no one knows what happened with the gun, then that was a waste of time and money expended in that investigation.

What did Suffolk County PD Internal Affairs Bureau do? It said I will take your dead end investigation and raise you another dead end investigation by accusing officers of lies in their investigation, and of tricking their polygraph. Thanks fellas, that brings clarity to the issue.


The Mayor then took this muddle and suspended the accused officers with pay (people start to think back to a similar problem years ago with another officer and this Mayor when he was Chief of Police himself.)

The scant majority on the board decided to put an end to all of it, directed the charges to be withdrawn, and the officers put back on duty. (Mayor Teller voted "No", and Trustee Birk did not show up at the meeting.) The Chief in a snit followed orders, but put the officers on restricted duty. Really Chief, how does this come to an end, and is such action legal when the withdrawn charges have never been substantiated?

At the January meeting the Mayor put together an agenda with resolutions to undo all of the actions that the scant majority took to end the matter, and instead the Mayor apparently wanted resolutions voted upon to undo what the majority had already done. Did he have any inkling that he had support for that action? Clearly not.

What would A Good Board do? Attend the January meeting, make one motion to strike from the agenda each of the items that the majority clearly did not support, and proceed with the village's business.

What did the Board of Trustees do? It staged a walk out. That is bizarre. The majority of the Board of Trustees which has the legal authority to control the meeting is a no show. The caterwauling commences by the Mayor's loyalists, and the Mayor plays the poor-put-upon, and the beach blogger, well, he blogs to the delight of the partisans.

The one thing that is NOT being done is the villages business. The Trustees/Mayor are not doing their jobs and the PD and Chief are not doing theirs either. Instead, they are all now engaged in internecine warfare. Taxpayers still pay.

The epithet of DYSFUNCTIONAL has been earned." Jan 8, 10 2:48 PM

Nope, it is the majority of the Board that controls. The Mayor has a vote, one vote, and he is supposed to execute the will of the majority. The Mayor presides at Village meetings, but he can only do what the majority directs.

The idea that he had any independent rights to assert from a minority position simply because he is the mayor is mistaken.

A quorum is a simple majority of the Board, without it nothing can be done which is why there was no a meeting.

I don't agree with the Trustees decision to stage a walk out, or otherwise boycott the meeting, but that majority, for better or worse presently controls village government, and on the issue of the Mayor's action in unilaterally suspending officers with pay, the majority does not agree with the Mayor.

The Mayors decision to add seven resolutions to the agenda was a testament to stubbornness.

The Trustees walk-out was foolishness.

The Chief's decision to put the officers on restricted duties when the charges were withdrawn was stubborn and foolish." Jan 8, 10 7:17 PM

All Trustees owe each other the kindness and respect to give plenty of advance notice of proposed resolutions. Whether it be Mr. Kametler or Mayor Teller or any of the others, it is discourteous and unproductive to engage in ambush tactics." Jan 8, 10 7:20 PM

Ms. Martin's reporting captures the pathology of both those who were absent and those who attended. All too human, but we can do better." Jan 9, 10 8:21 AM

Thank you." Jan 10, 10 2:11 PM

Jean: Your "Topic" is that you don't like 3 Trustees. You attack anyone who does not stay on Your Topic.

The reporter recognized that the problem is not limited to 3 Trustees who boycotted the meeting.

Most posters on this page recognize that there is more than one Topic in this article. It is about the Trustees and the underlying and persistent problem the PD and its Chief.

In the past when you have chosen to address my posts I have asked you whether you believe the PD has ever functioned properly. You refuse to answer that question.

Jean, you seem to want to go on and on about 3 Trustees, but don't address the equally important question about the PD. Again, do you contend it has ever functioned properly, and if so when?" Jan 10, 10 3:15 PM

It would be unusual for the village board meeting to have more than the few usual gadflies unless the Mayor had put the word out to his buddies to show up.

Two dozen at a meeting in January seems like the Mayor was playing a game, and notice went to everyone he chose, except the other Trustees.

If the residents would prefer to pay for full time trustees, then a 3 pm agenda change would not be unreasonable. However, we have part time Trustees, the action the Mayor sought to reverse happened the previous month, so a 3 pm agenda change is NOT reasonable.

The Mayor adopted the Kametler, et. al tactic from the previous meeting of resolution by ambush. That is junk, and ALL should be roundly condemned for this kind of nonsense which leads to bad decision making.

There doesn't even seem to be a single board member that stands up for a fair process. The "are we ready for some fun" remark demonstrates that Trustee Birk has no sense of the seriousness of being a Village Trustee.

There is a void of intelligence on this board and vacuum of leadership.
" Jan 11, 10 11:40 AM

Commissioners say renovations are needed at Westhampton Beach Firehouse

The Open Meetings Law applies to the Board of Fire Commissioners.

Hopefully, the meetings are open to the public and the press as such plans are formulated. That is part of the process. Such things just don't spring out of Executive Session fully grown. The public has the right to observe from the moment of conception.

Open Meetings Law below from the NY Department of State

§100. Legislative declaration. It is essential to the maintenance of a democratic society that the public business be performed in an open and public manner and that the citizens of this state be fully aware of and able to observe the performance of public officials and attend and listen to the deliberations and decisions that go into the making of public policy. The people must be able to remain informed if they are to retain control over those who are their public servants. It is the only climate under which the commonweal will prosper and enable the governmental process to operate for the benefit of those who created it.

§101. Short title. This article shall be known and may be cited as "Open Meetings Law".

§102. Definitions. As used in this article:
1. "Meeting" means the official convening of a public body for the purpose of conducting public business, including the use of videoconferencing for attendance and participation by the members of the public body.
2. "Public body" means any entity, for which a quorum is required in order to conduct public business and which consists of two or more members, performing a governmental function for the state or for an agency or department thereof, or for a public corporation as defined in section sixty-six of the general construction law, or committee or subcommittee or other similar body of such public body.
3. "Executive session" means that portion of a meeting not open to the general public.

§103. Open meetings and executive sessions.

(a) Every meeting of a public body shall be open to the general public, except that an executive session of such body may be called and business transacted thereat in accordance with section one hundred five of this article.

(b) Public bodies shall make or cause to be made all reasonable efforts to ensure that meetings are held in facilities that permit barrier-free physical access to the physically handicapped, as defined in subdivision five of section fifty of the public buildings law.

(c) A public body that uses videoconferencing to conduct its meetings shall provide an opportunity to attend, listen and observe at any site at which a member participates.

§104. Public notice.

1. Public notice of the time and place of a meeting scheduled at least one week prior thereto shall be given to the news media and shall be conspicuously posted in one or more designated public locations at least seventy-two hours before such meeting.

2. Public notice of the time and place of every other meeting shall be given, to the extent practicable, to the news media and shall be conspicuously posted in one or more designated public locations at a reasonable time prior thereto.

3. The public notice provided for by this section shall not be construed to require publication as a legal notice.

4. If videoconferencing is used to conduct a meeting, the public notice for the meeting shall inform the public that videoconferencing will be used, identify the locations for the meeting, and state that the public has the right to attend the meeting at any of the locations.

5. When a public body has the ability to do so, notice of the time and place of a meeting given in accordance with subdivision one or two of this section, shall also be conspicuously posted on the public body's internet website.

§105. Conduct of executive sessions.

1. Upon a majority vote of its total membership, taken in an open meeting pursuant to a motion identifying the general area or areas of the subject or subjects to be considered, a public body may conduct an executive session for the below enumerated purposes only, provided, however, that no action by formal vote shall be taken to appropriate public moneys:

a. matters which will imperil the public safety if disclosed;

b. any matter which may disclose the identity of a law enforcement agent or informer;

c. information relating to current or future investigation or prosecution of a criminal offense which would imperil effective law enforcement if disclosed;

d. discussions regarding proposed, pending or current litigation;

e. collective negotiations pursuant to article fourteen of the civil service law;

f. the medical, financial, credit or employment history of a particular person or corporation, or matters leading to the appointment, employment, promotion, demotion, discipline, suspension, dismissal or removal of a particular person or corporation;

g. the preparation, grading or administration of examinations; and

h. the proposed acquisition, sale or lease of real property or the proposed acquisition of securities, or sale or exchange of securities held by such public body, but only when publicity would substantially affect the value thereof.

2. Attendance at an executive session shall be permitted to any member of the public body and any other persons authorized by the public body.

§106. Minutes.

1. Minutes shall be taken at all open meetings of a public body which shall consist of a record or summary of all motions, proposals, resolutions and any other matter formally voted upon and the vote thereon.

2. Minutes shall be taken at executive sessions of any action that is taken by formal vote which shall consist of a record or summary of the final determination of such action, and the date and vote thereon; provided, however, that such summary need not include any matter which is not required to be made public by the freedom of information law as added by article six of this chapter.

3. Minutes of meetings of all public bodies shall be available to the public in accordance with the provisions of the freedom of information law within two weeks from the date of such meeting except that minutes taken pursuant to subdivision two hereof shall be available to the public within one week from the date of the executive session.

Work, hard, work in the open, it is the public's purse. Thank you." Jan 11, 10 12:22 PM

Westhampton Beach reschedules Village Board meeting

The Village may not have made the necessary allowances to have special meetings videotaped, but

Open Meetings Law allows individuals to videotape a public meeting." Jan 11, 10 4:48 PM

Why have village meetings become so contentious?

In some measure it can be attributed to what often times becomes open mike night. It seems that the Trustees/Mayor, from time to time like to pack the gallery, and more the outspoken critics / partisans then like to take to the microphone and interrogate members of the board, often with ambush style tactics.

Should this be how we operate our village?

One guidepost we might look to is in the Open Meetings Law

"Legislative declaration. It is essential to the maintenance of a democratic society that the public business be performed in an open and public manner and that the citizens of this state be fully aware of and ABLE TO OBSERVE the performance of public officials and attend and LISTEN to the deliberations and decisions that go into the making of public policy. The people must be able to remain informed if they are to retain control over those who are their public servants. It is the only climate under which the commonweal will prosper and enable the governmental process to operate for the benefit of those who created it."

The policy of the Open Meetings Law is so that the public is "able to observe" and "listen."

When we run our village meetings like an open mike night at a comedy club, there is nothing funny about it. In fact, the meetings seem more akin to the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Maybe with more observing and listening by everyone this village will be able to get back on track. This isn't to remove responsibility for the dysfunction from anyone in village government, but rather lets create the environment where good governance at least has the best chance." Jan 11, 10 5:31 PM

For the crowd that wants to show up with pitch forks and demand answers from the Trustees concerning personnel matters you should be aware:

NY Civil Rights Law:
§ 50-a. Personnel records of police officers, firefighters and correction officers

1. All personnel records, used to evaluate performance toward continued employment or promotion, under the control of any police agency or department of the state or any political subdivision thereof...shall be considered confidential and not subject to inspection or review without the express written consent of such police officer... except as may be mandated by lawful court order.


This Board is dealing with a situation in which a allegations in an internal affairs report were leaked to the Press.

The Trustees are prohibited by law from addressing such questions, and you will probably be told that by the Trustees, and the Village Attorney would concur, that it can not be the subject of public comment by anyone, the Mayor or the Trustees, privy to such confidential matters.

In the end, right now you have only comment from people who don't know, or from people who know but engage in selective disclosure.

The Public's demand for answers is understandable after such a leak, the Trustees not giving answers is required by law.

Obviously, some with pitch forks have their own very personal financial interests at stake, and their righteous indignation is a part of their game, for others it is genuine and based upon incomplete information.

For those taxpayers genuinely concerned, step back. The scrabbling for advantage by the trough feeders will go on, and over time, hopefully, we will be able to discern who deserves our support." Jan 12, 10 3:33 AM

Personnel matters belong in Executive Session. The notion that the Board could revisit 7 resolutions pertaining to a personnel matter without first having an Executive Session, is to say voting should take place without discussion at all.

That, unfortunately, is what happened the month before.

The stand-up way to deal with this is to put an Executive Session on the agenda as well as the proposed resolutions, discuss it in Executive Session and vote in public as required by law.

We have a pretty good idea that the 3 had made up their minds, and the foregoing was not going to change anything. So instead the taxpayers are treated to...

The Mayor's last minute agenda bomb, without Executive Session, with complimentary packing of the meeting hall with mayoral loyalists. This was nothing other than bush league political posturing that I think we are all tired of." Jan 12, 10 9:09 AM

You say "[t]here are obvious problems which need to be solved."

Could you be more specific. That is a pretty general statement about the problems you see, and you could add what you think should be done.

Nice to have another person in the village taking an interest in local government." Jan 13, 10 8:29 AM

Trustees reject mayor's attempt to add seven resolutions after walk-out in Westhampton Beach

From Trustee Birk:

“I want these guys cleared,” she said during Tuesday’s meeting, referring to the two previously suspended officers.

Well, it is pretty clear that she can't sit as a hearing officer. Perhaps that was by design, just like missing the December meeting.

For what it is worth, she seems to have concluded that the two officers should be cleared. That leaves the Mayor as the only person, perhaps other than the Chief, who thinks these guys should be canned.

Maybe the Press can post the full report from Suffolk IAB here on the web where space is largely unlimited. Then the community can assess whether the allegations have any appearance of substance worthy of more consideration." Jan 13, 10 3:52 PM

Southampton Town comptroller reappointment thwarted

The only reason to abstain from voting is if you are disqualified for some reason. I think that Nuzzi and Malone should tell the voters the reasons each are disqualified.

To say they want to wait does that mean they want a vacancy in this position until after the special election in March. That is eight weeks away, a lot of work could be completed between now and then.

Neither Nuzzi or Malone have said there has been anything wrong with the work done by Ms. Wright.

Chris Nuzzi and Jim Malone, that was bad judgment, and its only January !

" Jan 13, 10 6:53 PM

Wheeler, You are true to form - disagreeable.

If you want to wait for more information you move to table it until such time as you reasonably expect such information to be available. If that motion fails, then vote "No" and the record is plain that you wanted more information.

An abstention is often used as a dodge move, but it is plain to all." Jan 13, 10 8:54 PM

Bridget Fleming graduated from a Virginia Law School, a highly regarded school, then served as a prosecutor in Morganthau's Office. Unlike Touro Law School which sells degrees by the dozen to anyone willing to pay.

Who are the Republican's putting up for this election, and do we really want another vote to go with Nuzzi and Malone ?" Jan 13, 10 9:01 PM

Trustees reject mayor's attempt to add seven resolutions after walk-out in Westhampton Beach

"how dare she actually talk to the trustees who walked out of last week's meeting to find out why they left"

That says it all.

Get the Press to publish the IAB report, let the voters see what it says rather than guess. Sorry, I don't hold Suffolk PD in the same esteem you do. I would rather see their work first hand and judge for myself." Jan 13, 10 9:04 PM

Southampton Town comptroller reappointment thwarted

What identity is that ?

She is intelligent and capable. Those are qualities that have been in short supply on this Town Board for years. Just look at the budget mess that came from Skippy the fence man. You want more of that ?

Look at credentials, they matter." Jan 13, 10 11:30 PM

Ms. Fleming graduated from a highly regarded law school. It is at least on par with Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Syracuse, and Georgetown. By "highly regarded" I mean the admissions process is very selective and only very talented people are admitted.

Then she worked in a highly regarded District Attorney's Office, an office where many talented people work, as compared to other DA's Offices where patronage considerations eclipse the requirement of talent by a large margin.

There are journeymen lawyers who learn a niche area of the law and do a decent job in such narrowly focused practice of law. Then there are the highly capable attorneys who understand the fundamental principles of law that apply across all practice areas. These attorneys bring an intelligence to any job and are the people who coordinate the work of journeymen lawyers. A journeyman works in a discrete silo. It is the lawyer's lawyer that connects them and other municipal employees to form a composite, functioning, municipality. Southampton has NOT been a functioning municipality.

Ms. Fleming is not a journeyman lawyer, she is not a Touro or Hofstra graduate, she has demonstrated she has an ability to serve in a position that requires a broader focus. When people with such talent offer their services you grab them, and thank them. They don't need us for employment, we need them for their talent.

I agree with you Ms. Fleming does not fit the bill as a "community organizer" but anyone who live in a community for 10 years has a pretty good idea of what is good for the Town.

Who else is running that can match BOTH her talent and her 10 years in the community? I agree that both considerations are critical." Jan 14, 10 8:37 AM

Trustees reject mayor's attempt to add seven resolutions after walk-out in Westhampton Beach

Hey Frank, you are a guy that wants the facts.

How about signing on to a request that the Press post the IAB report?

Maybe if enough people request it, then the Press will permit its online readers a source document that so far has only been distilled for the readers by the editorial staff. " Jan 14, 10 8:42 AM

Southampton Town comptroller reappointment thwarted

Thanks Mr. Wheeler, you have once again come around to what i said." Jan 14, 10 11:23 AM

First impressions are important." Jan 14, 10 11:24 AM

Trustees reject mayor's attempt to add seven resolutions after walk-out in Westhampton Beach

90 - 100 pages ? Does that come with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one? Never saw the length of the report given, guess I missed it." Jan 14, 10 1:10 PM

Lt. William Hughes named Republican nominee for vacant Southampton Town Board seat

A soon to be retired Southampton Town Police Officer to vote on salary increases for the boys ? Here's where we stand now:

Agency Last, First Pay Basis Rate YTDPay
Southampton Overton, James $166,366
Southampton Tenaglia, Anthony $162,129
Southampton Hughes Jr, William $153,912
Southampton Iberger, Robert $153,523
Southampton Molloy, Bruce $151,241
Southampton Hintze, Randolph $147,054
Southampton Pearce, Robert $146,456
Southampton Scott, Lewis $143,394
Southampton Schurek Jr, Lawrence $140,277
Southampton Miller, Steven $139,760
Southampton Foster, Scott $139,121
Southampton Bennett, Todd $137,693
Southampton Wilson, Timothy $136,919
Southampton Kiernan, James $136,823
Southampton Sommer, William $136,172
Southampton Britton, Walter $134,828
Southampton Mazzio, James $134,738
Southampton Zarro, Michael $134,089
Southampton Stabile, Robert $132,593
Southampton Tully, Thomas $131,794
Southampton Boden, John $131,460
Southampton Sharkey Jr, Charles $130,745
Southampton Joyce, Michael $129,277
Southampton Johnson, Herbert $128,410
Southampton Ficurilli, Andrew $128,200
Southampton Kuey, John $126,097
Southampton Smith, Michael $124,974
Southampton Gwinn, Kevin $124,914
Southampton Ralph, Susan $123,743
Southampton Burns, Michael $122,800
Southampton Cavanagh, James $122,389
Southampton Foos, Michael $122,138
Southampton Wicklund, Robert $121,714
Southampton Spencer, Todd $120,961
Southampton Cavanagh, James $120,742
Southampton Gorman, Thomas $120,732
Southampton Gates, Richard $120,611
Southampton Oliver, Kenneth $120,331
Southampton Costa, Lisa $120,057
Southampton Hawkins, Patrick $119,864
Southampton De Luca, Brian $119,602
Southampton Cagno, Vincent $119,334
Southampton Boese, Frederick $117,908
Southampton Mujsce, Kenneth $117,579
Southampton Plum, Eric $117,377
Southampton Peters, David $117,357
Southampton Helmsteadt, Matthew $117,305
Southampton Vecchio, Anthony $116,327
Southampton Sickles, Eric $116,262
Southampton Harrigan, Jane $115,506
Southampton Carey Jr, Bartholomew $115,393
Southampton Aube, Patrick $115,275
Southampton Tedesco, Theresa $114,722
Southampton Frankenbach, Steven $113,925
Southampton Cantrell, Frederick $113,037
Southampton Brown, Robert $112,774
Southampton Mc Creedy-Drew, Maureen $112,339
Southampton Lo Russo, Kristian $111,925
Southampton Platt IV, William $111,835
Southampton Gonzalez, Nelson $111,739
Southampton O'Brien, Stephen $111,399
Southampton Neuendorf, Eric $111,203
Southampton Joseph, Doris $109,682
Southampton Parker, Sherekhan $109,582
Southampton Loper I I I, Herbert $109,338
Southampton Kalb, Howard $109,038
Southampton De Marco, Steven $107,444
Southampton Giambone, John $105,976
Southampton Attanasio, Michael $105,499
Southampton Badagliacca, Nicholas $105,189
Southampton Giardina, James $105,079
Southampton Smith, Lois $101,929
Southampton Manzello, Edward $99,305
Southampton Nemes, Michael $96,286
Southampton Smith, Lyle $95,672
Southampton Arnzen, Robert $95,424
Southampton Schmidt Jr, Thomas $92,830
Southampton Breitwieser, Erik $87,832
Southampton Slovensky, Craig $86,477
Southampton Elliston, Melissa $85,829
Southampton Garafola, Richard $85,135
Southampton Santora, David $84,086
Southampton Driscoll, David $82,264
Southampton La Ferrera, Gina $77,246
Southampton Burst, Christine $69,244
Southampton O'Flaherty, Timothy $67,996
Southampton D'arce, Joseph $66,240
Southampton Kiernan, William $65,825
Southampton Berini, John $64,562
Southampton Davin, Jason $63,144
Southampton Montalbano, Gaspar $59,246
Southampton Blodorn, Andrew $51,378
Southampton Henderson, Edward $51,296
Southampton Jasinski, Theodore $39,855
Southampton Phillips, Keith $33,521
Southampton Kiernan, Wm $30,391
Southampton Walsh, Michael $23,093
Southampton Hughes, Ryan $22,763
Southampton Spera, Richard $20,325
Southampton Schottenhamel, Carl $20,063
Southampton Collins, Daniel $20,063
Southampton Cobb, Bryan $20,063
Southampton Metcalf Jr, Donald $20,063
Southampton Coleman, Carter $20,063
Southampton Landrio, Jonathan $17,899
Southampton Jacobsen, Thomas $17,329
Southampton Hartman, Daniel $12,827
Southampton Hochstrasser, Elyse $10,477
Southampton Benkov, Richard $9,055
Southampton Schmidt, Anthony $8,528
Southampton Concannon, Daniel $8,419
Southampton Petroski, Jude $5,705
Southampton Padeletti, William $3,220
Southampton Chiappone, Michael $2,880
Southampton Mc Cormick, John $2,240

How will we fare if we put this buddy on the Board to vote with Nuzzi and Malone?" Jan 14, 10 2:15 PM

No "fear" Mr. Wheeler, those salaries have been reported on the See Through NY website. I have only related them.

No "fear" it is a fact that this candidate has worked closely with the rank and file police officers. It is more of a stretch to believe that because he is older now, he wants to save money for the taxpayers.

No "fear" just don't elect someone who all they have to say when nominated is I have strong deep roots. What ability does he have compared to Ms. Fleming?

Qualifications count. Is being a cop a long time a qualification?" Jan 14, 10 4:11 PM

Ms. Fleming graduated from the highly regarded Virginia law school. It is at least on par with Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Syracuse, and Georgetown. By "highly regarded" I mean the admissions process is very selective and only very talented people are admitted.

Then she worked in a highly regarded District Attorney's Office, an office where many talented people work, as compared to other DA's Offices where patronage considerations eclipse the requirement of talent by a large margin.

There are journeymen lawyers who learn a niche area of the law and do a decent job in such narrowly focused practice of law. Then there are the highly capable attorneys who understand the fundamental principles of law that apply across all practice areas. These attorneys bring an intelligence to any job and are the people who coordinate the work of journeymen lawyers. A journeyman works in a discrete silo. It is the lawyer's lawyer that connects them and other municipal employees to form a composite, functioning, municipality. Southampton has NOT been a functioning municipality.

Ms. Fleming is not a journeyman lawyer, she is not a Touro or Hofstra graduate, she has demonstrated she has an ability to serve in a position that requires a broader focus. When people with such talent offer their services you grab them, and thank them. They don't need us for employment, we need them for their talent." Jan 14, 10 4:48 PM

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