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Zeldin Weighs In On Trump's Remarks At Helsinki Summit

THIS has been a enlightening conversation. I have discovered HHS is a devout Christian, ergo he is now a delusional psychopath according to his own lapdog Z.

The world as I knew it is tilted.

But then again Z is a lightning rod with a sleep disorder, so....." Jul 25, 18 11:17 AM

Nah, lack of dolt respect is more like it. I was copying and pasting a moronic post to see if/when the "editor" would wake up. Took a few days. I don't mind the red.....the black and white is generally pretty useless, mindnumbing, ignorant nonsense.


I see your up to 10,260.

What do you do with the little spare time you have? Google moderators are a thing of the past. " Jul 26, 18 11:58 PM

No need to try and explain how you waste your time.

You began May 26, 2009, your ex-bestie now delusional psychopath HHS (according to your "wisdom") started May 27, 2009.

Astute and observant says to get out more." Jul 27, 18 9:00 AM

AND .. welcome mythomaniac in chief. Lapdog is over on the other side of the spectrum.

12 hours.....no redline.

Hands for those who will think he will speak in circles never really achieving any substantial thought but using big words and fore and Z will "likey" it" Jul 27, 18 9:19 PM

Gershon's Comparison Of Trump's Rise To Hitler's Stokes Political Flames In 1st District Race

Somewhere there is a lightswitch just waiting to be turned." Jul 28, 18 11:43 PM

To eliminate a MORON, one needs to reveal the moron. (And his moron followers)

"Illegal immigrants are also "exempt" from taxes, via the 1099, and no real checks on the validity of their status.

How's that?" Apr 2, 10 2:33 PM"
Mr Z.

"Change the rule from being born on American soil for citizenship, and add "birthed child MUST have at least ONE naturalized, or U.S. born parent." .

Then again, maybe I'm a crackpot..." Apr 3, 10 12:06 AM"

Mr.Z

"No matter who is in any office today, they have a huge mess to clean up thanks to Ayn Rand, Alan Greenspan, and Bill Clinton, to name the top three.

Ayn Rand was a Russian born author under communism, and the post Bolshevik revolution Soviet Union. Her most famous work is probably "Atlas Shrugged", and she believed in a "lassiez faire" take on economics. Her greatest disciple was Alan Greenspan, who ran the treasury for about twenty years. His view on NOT regulating the economy allowed for shady deals, and a dark, opaque, unregulated market all over Wall St.

There was one voice of dissent, and her name was Brooksley Born, former head of the CTFC, which potentially had control over the derivatives market. She warned that an economic implosion would be the result of an unregulated derivatives market back in the late nineties. She was silenced by Alan Greenspan, Larry Somers, Timothy Geithner, Gary Ginsler, and Alan Levitt (who later recanted his behavior).

It was a COMPLETELY unregulated derivatives market that drove up the cost of everything from a bottle of milk, to a house, to a barrel of oil. Wall St. bankers pocketed millions, billions, in some cases trillions, and America, as well as the world, has paid the price for this folly.

The last straw was when Bill Clinton signed the GLBA into law, which not only changed the definition of certain marketable securites, and repealed key aspects of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, but allowed for the creation of "Mega-Banks" like Citigroup.

A boatload of good checks and balances enacted after the Great Depression by Herbert Hoover, and some really good Congressmen were repealed, and Capitalism was permitted to run unregulated, unfettered, and rampant until the market's implosion in less than a decade after the GLBA (Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act) was signed into law.

Do your research, educate yourself, and sling less mud.

It WOULD behoove us all...

" Apr 7, 10 1:25 PM"

Mr. Z

I could go on, and on and on......

flip....flop.....flip....flop" Jul 29, 18 10:58 PM

@HHS

No need to debunk anything you have written, the circle you speak in ( round and round you go, what you speak of, nobody knows) has a default debunk.

You sir, are the O.G. mythomaniac in chief.

It's time you put up, or shut up. You've stated we HAD to give a terrorist state money.....give up your residence to the poor shinnecock. Stand on your values.


Or don't." Jul 29, 18 11:16 PM

Apr 21, 18 @HHS

"Apologies. My statement about county/town taxes was a misconception. Taxes might, indeed, be higher. However, we would only know how much higher when an actual county tax bill were presented to residents including the assumption by Suffolk County of patrol duties."


Let's not display your ignorance and poor investigative skills again" Jul 30, 18 9:43 AM

Apr 21, 18 @HHS

"Apologies. My statement about county/town taxes was a misconception. Taxes might, indeed, be higher. However, we would only know how much higher when an actual county tax bill were presented to residents including the assumption by Suffolk County of patrol duties."


Let's not display your ignorance and poor investigative skills again" Jul 30, 18 9:43 AM

It means someone didn't take their meds or get a good night's sleep for the past 45 years.

Right Z?" Aug 1, 18 12:02 AM

Here is your Facebook Russian collusion in a nut shell:

Exploit weak minded, ignorant, dolts to "counter protest" Americans first amendment.

This brought anger from real Patriots who want to defend our constitutional rights and brought them out to vote. They voted for Trump.( I did not, I wrote in a candidate)

So the Russians exploited the small minded into action, the Republican and Conservatives responded=Trump.

AND the small minded continue to fall for it...ergo Bernie Sander and Ocasio-Cortez. Or, they start changing party affiliations and addresses in the hope to win an election, ergo Jay and Gershy.

In the mean time we all lose numerous Police Officers lives to the false "hands up" narrative, Columbus day, statues of our historical figures, AND the first amendment right....see Ben Shapiro.

Time to educate the easily fooled.

" Aug 1, 18 9:10 AM

So you condone violence as a means to repress free speech, albeit vile speech, and claim THAT patriotism?

YOU are part of the problem.

"Getting shouted down in the public square because you're chanting "blood and soil" is the most American thing ever"

Is that all that happened? Or did they deny the right of Americans the ability to peacefully assemble with violence?

Funny how you cherry pick, did BLM respond appropriately to the false narrative that they carry to this day? Was it "Patriotc" to ambush Police Officers because of a false narrative, resorting to violence ahead of justice?

Is it American to deny one group of people the right to celebrate a proud moment in their heritage because another feels a misconceived slight?

Americans using violence against Americans is never acceptable except in self defense of person or property. Your condoning violence is as un-patriotic as it comes. Take a look in the mirror, you may have more in common with Germany circa 1938 than you think.

I've always considered you a more rounded contributor, seems the Russians have claimed another one.
" Aug 2, 18 8:57 AM

Great, let's allow Black Panthers, anti-Muslim, nation of Israel, and radical Christians to get punched in the face also.

Sounds like we shouldn't discriminate against any descriminating hate group with violence.

Your perfect world." Aug 2, 18 11:48 AM

The censors here are so unbelievable, either that or someone needs a blanky and a corner.

@fore

"If you want to quote somebody, do it right:"

I did, let's break it down for you.

"Violent rejection of the genocidal speech is acceptable to me"

YOU accept it, I defined the meaning of such, but apparently the webster's dictionary offends the "moderators" of this site.

Accept, allow, condone. Same difference...but for you, as long as someone does the dirty work for you it's OK, you'll cheer them on.

"provided the perpetrators of such violence are not exempt from the legal consequences of criminal acts."

AHHH, it's ok in your book, but not ok in the common sense law abiding citizens. So you have a double standard.

Murder is MURDER, and no, it's not acceptable in a civilized society that depends on law to survive to take the law in their own hands.

UNDERSTANDABLE yes, ACCEPTABLE....no.

AND....if you have read and understood my posts you would CLEARLY know....I did not vote for Trump, AND if an outside foreign government CLEARLY altered the election by submitting FALSE information and CHANGING the vote to go one way or the other, then YES it is the responsibility of the government to act.

That INCLUDES the prosecution of all parties....I.E. Obama, who had advanced knowledge of foreign influence but did nothing to prevent it.

@fred

The grownups are talking here." Aug 4, 18 12:37 AM

I suppose that's as close to an apology for calling me out as I will receive. My reading comprehension skills are not so bad after all.

"Also, I can't help but notice that you would require such a conspiracy between a foreign government and a domestic political campaign to actually "change the vote." For me, and in my understanding of the statute, it's enough that a thing of value was solicited or accepted, for example ad buys or opposition research."

"For me, and in my understanding of the statute, it's enough that a thing of value was solicited or accepted"

Fore, if a foreign government has information on a candidate for POTUS that is so detrimental to that candidacy, why would it be a criminal act to supply that information. If it happened to be England who had such valuable Intel, would it still be such a criminal act? I understand supplying it to another candidacy is improper, but as we have seen over the course of this investigation, multiple agencies were not acting in a completely unbiased manner. (Investigative and media)

"for example ad buys or opposition research."
Ad buys or research are completely different and poor examples of your sentence. A piece of valuable intelligence is a singular thing, ad buys or research are too simplistic to be considered criminal. The U.S. has been influencing foreign government and their elections for decades.

All but 4 polls had HRC trouncing Trump in the election. THAT didnt change until election night with the results. If ad buys influenced the general election, it did minimal damage. HRC did more damage to her own candidacy than any outside force, "bucketful of deplorables" really?

I would have hoped by now the investigation would have ANYTHING if what DT did was indeed criminal to begin a process to remove him. I don't think ANY poster here wants a criminal as POTUS, at least I hope not.

As for Obama, if it is found that he was aware of this "foreign criminal influence", he did not act to protect the American people and is an accessory to the crime and a traitor to the United States of America." Aug 4, 18 10:12 AM

@fred s.

You make me giggle when you talk tough. So cute. " Aug 5, 18 1:06 AM

I find in life, there is a very thin line between sickness and stupidity. The stupidity comes from a lack of comprehension and a "diarrhea of the mouth". Can you understand?

MAYBE IF I SPOKE MORE SLOWLY IN ALL CAPS." Aug 5, 18 5:42 PM

What? Do you want me to embarrass you again?

Apr 21, 18 @HHS

"Apologies. My statement about county/town taxes was a misconception. Taxes might, indeed, be higher. However, we would only know how much higher when an actual county tax bill were presented to residents including the assumption by Suffolk County of patrol duties."


Let's not display your ignorance and poor investigative skills again.

You need a blanky and a corner to feel safe again, don't come out and play with the big boys, you've done it again and again with the same result. An admission of ignorance." Aug 6, 18 12:15 AM

@HHS

Only recently have I had the pleasure of debating a poster with a deeper ignorance. BUT.....you still are a very close second." Aug 6, 18 8:22 PM

I cannot explain how honored I am that you two can take the time from your busy schedule of gibberish, dictionaries, and sleep deprivation to come out in support of fred s.

Birds of a feather.

@z

Here are two words for you to research, 10,305 posts and counting.

bái mù.

@HHS

And here are two words for you, Ms. D.O.M.

bái làn

For the others like myself, you know who you are, remain.....

top krian" Aug 7, 18 9:35 AM

@HHS


bái làn

(Chinese: 白爛; literally: "white rot"), which describes a post completely nonsensical and full of folly made to upset others, and derives from a Taiwanese slang term for the male genitalia, where genitalia that is pale white in colour represents that someone is young, and thus foolish.

investigative skills....let's see how Z does with his.

(I'm not holding my breath, he once mocked a 9/11 first responder with cancer, and then that whole God thing.)" Aug 7, 18 6:46 PM

Your ignorance is overshadowed by you inability to tell the truth.

Your "belief in God" statement was past and current timing, and your use of the Bible to attempt to explain a moronic statement, ignorant statement speaks volumes

Maybe this will help you remember the mocking tone you showed that 9/11 responder.

"Polmic anyone?"

Blankly, cookie, corner. Its safer for you." Aug 8, 18 6:29 AM

That is not proof or example of your outright ignorant statement, which is all I am asking for. I could give two if you believe or not.

You made a statement, made some claims about me, and have yet to offer 1 shred of evidence to prove anything you said.

And there in lies your ignorance, and the fact that you absolutely did in fact mock a 9/11 responder with cancer.

10,317 statements of ignorance and counting..." Aug 9, 18 9:02 PM

10,318

" Aug 10, 18 9:37 AM

@z

"Belief in a "God" is the single greatest cause of death and war in human history."
Or
."The crux of the issue is that when you enslave a being, it's worse than murder"

Both in regards to the Christian belief.

Both your statements. Please choose just 1 and offer proof.

Just 1." Aug 10, 18 8:41 PM

Not simple, I think he meant ignorant." Aug 12, 18 7:56 PM

I couldn't keep this one to myself all the way up on the thread, I had to share a good laugh.


@z

"Belief in a "God" is the single greatest cause of death and war in human history."
Or
."The crux of the issue is that when you enslave a being, it's worse than murder"

Both in regards to the Christian belief.

Both your statements. Please choose just 1 and offer proof.

Just 1. Aug 11, 18 8:41 PM appended by Bayman3142
I also happen to be an "other" z, my phenomenal senses detect B.S. and the artist with 100% accuracy. Hold on....I sense a tingle when you respond....

LMFAO!!

God in quotes.....THAT is your proof? The fact that an agnostic/atheist places God in quotes and it's this "quoted" God that is the greatest cause of death and war in HUMAN HISTORY? sheer idiocy. Makes no sense AT ALL.

where in the world did you find "God on the throne" as a empirical cause of war?

AND THEN...slavery is older than christianity?

WHAT?? How does that make it worse than murder, because it's old?" Aug 13, 18 9:03 AM

Here is Z' answer,

God is in quotes in the first one, so you're dead wrong on the first statement. There has also been "God on the throne" in human history. Slavery is older than Christianity, so wrong again.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
By Mr. Z (10320), North Sea on Aug 12, 18 8:17 PM" Aug 13, 18 9:05 AM

Lee Zeldin Declines Invitation To Forum On Morality Organized By Local Interfaith Clergy Group

Ahhhhh....refreshing that the resident expert on all things religious pipes in.

Since your good at explaining religion and all things God in quotes, can you explain what "God on the throne" has to do with war and death?

And then how the age of Christianity makes slavery worse than murder?

Here...I'll make it easy for you, somone once said....

"Belief in a "God" is the single greatest cause of death and war in human history."

."The crux of the issue is that when you enslave a being, it's worse than murder"

"God is in quotes in the first one, so you're dead wrong on the first statement. There has also been "God on the throne" in human history. Slavery is older than Christianity, so wrong again."

Yeah, I know, what doltish speak is THAT?!?

This person has a history of the "POST AND RUN" or the standard "You wont understand" to separate from the idiocies of the post.

They also feel they are on another phenomenon sensing level than the average Joe.

Crazy, I know, but this individual has posted 10,325 times and the arrogance is only outweighed by the ignorance.



" Aug 14, 18 9:26 AM

President Donald Trump To Fly Into Gabreski Airport On Friday

It is "you're" not your. The combination of "you" and "are" becomes "you're"

So what you meant to say fred

"You are the best" or "you're the best."

Maybe next time." Aug 16, 18 9:09 AM

The problem with the left is the lack of rational cognitive thought. (Bernie Sanders,
Ocasio-cortez, mr z)

For example. "Free" health care for all Americans. If "free" means the doctors, nurses, staff, don't get paid, great! That's not going to happen. SOMEONE is going to pay, and it's the American taxpayer. Imagine the overwhelming influx of illegal immigration, who do not pay into the "free" health care system. Who pays for them?

"Free" college education. See above.

But the left speaks about a tax cut that has so far had positive results as "unsustainable"

How does $42 TRILLION, yes T, sound over 10 years. That is where the left is moving toward on a platform of healthcare and education. Obama has already proven a lack of fiscal responsibility in Obama care.

How about this one...

May 2016, the left's hero Obama supports "gender neutral" bathrooms in American schools, opening the door for boys in girls room, girls in boys rooms, X wherever it wants to pee.

Lefty NYC Mayor Bill creates 31 genders. 31, 31 genders. From 2 we went to 31. And the left rejoiced! THEN decided to fine property owners and employers $250,000.00 for the use of improper nouns when referring to one of these new 31 genders.

Little big brotheresque, no?

Crapbook one ups Billy liberal.....56 genders, insanity. I can see it now, first time mom and dad in the birthing room, doctor holds up "it", have to wait to see what "it" will be referred to as, and says "IT'S ALIVE".

Ridiculous.

Don't get me wrong, the right has a few crackpots. I've never paid any attention to what this Alex Jones loser has said.

The government is running the weather? Really. Difference is Alex Jones is not in a position to force law on Americans. Influence voters? That's questionable.

And after all this time DT doesn't realize he sounds like an ass on his Twitter, can't someone take his BlackBerry? And it's top of the hour news worthy.

You have Antifa preventing free speach with violence (I have yet to hear 1 member of Antifa speak intelligently, see Michael Isaacson), which brings out the neo-nazi, and it's sensational news story after sensational news story.

Chicago is mired in violence and death. Nobody cares. 45 police officers out of a total 95 died violently, so far this year. Not as important as a tweet.

We all need to get a grip. Me included.

America 2018.
" Aug 16, 18 10:21 AM

NY Times Poll: Zeldin Leads Gershon, 49-41, In Upcoming Congressional Race

What's funny is you sounding like chicken little.

Lefties are acting like animals in restaurants, socialist/lefty/dolt candidates are calling for mob rule, and nobody can shut up bill "the original predator in chiefs" wife, "I'll take few million to speak cause I'm broke from the evil right wing conspiracy to bring down my sexually deviant husband" Hillary.

Your post would be relevant if it wasn't so F****** (il)liberal.

" Oct 26, 18 11:56 PM

Left wing terrorists are killing at a rate of 2.6 to 1 since 2016.

The face of your "right-wing domestic terrorist" is a 56 loser who lives in his moms basement.

The left has James T. Hodgkinson III, Kori Ali Muhammad, and your poster boy Micah Johnson.

Now instead of acting as a illiberal jack , why not just denounce all acts of terrorism, foreign and domestic, left and right.

Hillary was a dumb choice, get over it. I had to get over dumb dumb DT. At least the Republicans attempted to stop this disaster twitter freak. You all rigged it so Hillary would be the criminal candidate that no one could stomach.

Congratulations.

You all sound like such true Americans." Oct 27, 18 12:31 AM

@Fred s, @z

Your copy and paste skill is to be commended. It shows that Forbes has some smart cookies writing for them.

Unfortunately, you only read what you want to see, like a lot of posters here.

Here, let me break down my comment to make it easier for you two.

1.Left wing terrorists are killing at a rate of 2.6 to 1 since 2016.

First, look at the year I referenced, the year everything that could have gone wrong for little snowflakes who bought into the democrat con job that made mother Hillary your candidate and left the rest of us with the lesser evil.

So, how many left and right terrorists murders occurred SINCE 2016. You should know, you pasted in your post, proving me CORRECT not wrong. Here it is for you....

"Left Wing terrorists killed only 23 people in terrorist attacks during this time, about 0.7% of the total number of murders, but 13 since the beginning of 2016. Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists have only killed five since then, including Charlottesville. Regardless, the annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year."

OK, we have 13 on the left, 5 on the right.......are you following along here?

2016....13....5

Let's get to some math. If you double 5 you get 10. That is a 2 to 1, but it's not what we have. We have 13. So....DIVIDE 13 by 5.....2.6.

So. Left to right since 2016 is 2.6 to 1.
My facts are spot on.

In the 1980's left wing terrorist in the U.S. accounted for 3/4 of all domestic terrorist attacks.

I narrowed it to since 2016 because that's the year all of you left wingers think evil began and gave rise and legitimized scum like michael isaacson, the uncivilized activity of mob mentality and chasing people from restaraunts because apparently they are not allowed to have a difference of opinion. Using violence to suppress free speech, and then considering it "understandable" Dont forget its open season on our nation's Police, who aren't included in the equation but have seen an uptick of roughly 67% in fatalities and 10 times the number of ambushed killings.

Funny how Trump gets the blame for the Maryland reporters murder, but obama gets a free pass on all the murders of law enforcement.

So instead of ranting and crying on and on and on about trump this trump that for the last two years, why not act like adults and get ready for 2020 and try to bounce him out.

Whenever you two are ready to step into the real world and not some evil trump fairy tale, be careful, all this fake BS has created a real evil.

" Oct 27, 18 11:46 AM

Just pointing out your mathematical skills need polishing also." Oct 28, 18 8:59 AM

Lefties are acting like animals in restaurants, socialist/lefty/dolt candidates are calling for mob rule, and nobody can shut up bill "the original predator in chiefs" wife, "I'll take few million to speak cause I'm broke from the evil right wing conspiracy to bring down my sexually deviant husband" Hillary.

Left wing terrorists are killing at a rate of 2.6 to 1 since 2016.

The face of your "right-wing domestic terrorist" is a 56 loser who lives in his moms basement.

The left has James T. Hodgkinson III, Kori Ali Muhammad, and your poster boy Micah Johnson.

Now instead of acting as a illiberal jack , why not just denounce all acts of terrorism, foreign and domestic, left and right.

Hillary was a dumb choice, get over it. I had to get over dumb dumb DT. At least the Republicans attempted to stop this disaster twitter freak. You all rigged it so Hillary would be the criminal candidate that no one could stomach.

Congratulations.

Robert Bowers was anti Trump.

Obama found a captive audience in Ismaaiyl Abdullah Brinsley when he sent "kick when there down" to a criminals funeral.

We could go on and on pointing fingers, but as long as the left maintains its virgin white innocence BS and owns up to shut up, round and round and round we go." Oct 28, 18 9:09 AM

**YAWN**

you two are made for each other. Unintelligible, unintelligent, pure doltery at its pinnacle.

1 dolt is all about short attention spans, the other decades, and neither close to a legitimate thought.

Give Mikey Avenatti a call, he has a lot more on the top floor than you two.

Oh...and addressing your disingenuous time references below Fred s....let me help you with time now seeing as we went over reading comprehension, mathematics, general wisdom.

In November 2016, 1 year and 11 months ago, DT won the election, time frame the thumb sucking lefties think the world ended.

I stated statistics from 2016, the chicken little sky is falling, snowflake, grab a blanket and a binky year the world ended. Now....remember 1 year, 11 months.

"From Quartz........ In total, extremists killed at least 34 people in 2017."
Fred s

"To add.this backs up Batman’s weak claim. Taking statistics in such a small time frame is disingenuous"
Fred s.

2016, 2017, 2018....my time frame is longer. That's math AND reading comprehension cut and paste jr.

And z....

Come on back when you have an answer to the belief in God thing. Never read Breitbart, beginning to think it's more believable and intelligent than at least you two.

try getting out more." Oct 29, 18 12:09 AM

What's Next For Perry Gershon

Fred s. You're (notice the hyphen joining you and are. If YOU can not differentiate between your and you're) the reason we can't have intelligent debate." Nov 18, 18 12:13 AM

Shinnecock Harvest Festival Brings Heritage To The Forefront

Politacal correctness would dictate the Norse were here in 1000 AD. " Nov 20, 18 11:15 PM

Residents Ask For Vote To Add Armed Guards At Eastport-South Manor Schools

I like when dopey fred calls posters moron....makes me giggle." Dec 12, 18 12:07 AM

"I like it when you post facts on crime that aren’t backed up by facts."
Dopey.

"1.Left wing terrorists are killing at a rate of 2.6 to 1 since 2016.

First, look at the year I referenced, the year everything that could have gone wrong for little snowflakes who bought into the democrat con job that made mother Hillary your candidate and left the rest of us with the lesser evil.

So, how many left and right terrorists murders occurred SINCE 2016. You should know, you pasted in your post, proving me CORRECT not wrong. Here it is for you....

"Left Wing terrorists killed only 23 people in terrorist attacks during this time, about 0.7% of the total number of murders, but 13 since the beginning of 2016. Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists have only killed five since then, including Charlottesville. Regardless, the annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year."

OK, we have 13 on the left, 5 on the right.......are you following along here?

2016....13....5

Let's get to some math. If you double 5 you get 10. That is a 2 to 1, but it's not what we have. We have 13. So....DIVIDE 13 by 5.....2.6.

So. Left to right since 2016 is 2.6 to 1.
My facts are spot on.

In the 1980's left wing terrorist in the U.S. accounted for 3/4 of all domestic terrorist attacks.

I narrowed it to since 2016 because that's the year all of you left wingers think evil began and gave rise and legitimized scum like michael isaacson, the uncivilized activity of mob mentality and chasing people from restaraunts because apparently they are not allowed to have a difference of opinion. Using violence to suppress free speech, and then considering it "understandable" Dont forget its open season on our nation's Police, who aren't included in the equation but have seen an uptick of roughly 67% in fatalities and 10 times the number of ambushed killings."


Let me know if I should use smaller words." Dec 12, 18 8:39 AM

Fore, open the data to the start of the nation, Democrats were by far the leaders of political violence. The two of you are so fragile.

2nd ammendment is here to stay, besides the fact changing it will just allow the black market for guns richer.

Protecting our children by placing trained armed guards makes perfect sense, and as of right now, the easiest and quickest way to do so before another tragedy.

You two can't see past a lost election and would rather not protect the schools and sit back throwing temper tantrums until you get your way and change gun laws. Guards can always be removed if something changes. It's called common sense, something lost on the both of you.

Your fragile view on "baby it's cold outside" is also ignorant. The song was written in 1944, with 1944 moral values. You interpret the song with 2018 moral values, far, FAR, less than 1944. If penned today, by let's say....snoop dog and cardi b....it would be a #1 hit promoting the Bill Cosby ideal date.

Applying your snowflake view:

A Charlie Brown Christmas should go, Linus gives a biblical quote. Not safe for today's moral view, and the kids aren't very nice to Charlie.

Throw Rudolph out, same bullying and non inclusive narrative detested by today's fragile minority.

Forget about A Christmas Story....the bullying and violence and gun violence against black bart...oh my!

Your ideal Christmas would be something along the lines of all 58 gender facebook accepted X's celebrating festivus, with the only acceptable topic of conversation so as to not hurt any feelings, debate on which is more adorable, kittens or bunnies.

Oh, and fred, your village is calling.

" Dec 13, 18 9:24 AM

Cap On Foreign Workers Lifted For 2019 After Outcry From Business Owners

1. "The vast majority enter the country legally, then overstay their visa."
False

2. "They just remain here "illegally".
False

3. "not only can you not fix stupid, but it makes being wrong harder to accept"
Proven in 11073 stupid posts.

Here is the truth:

"Sarah Pierce, a policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute, told us in an email that recent DHS reports include data limited to foreign visitors who arrived by air and sea crossings, but not by land.

"They do not tell you anything about the full population of overstays," she wrote.

She said a 2017 study by the Center for Migration Studies, a nonpartisan think tank, is more helpful.

That report estimated visa overstays in 2014 accounted for 42 percent of the total undocumented population, or about 4.5 million people. It also projected that overstays made up about two-thirds of the total number of people who became unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. that year.

McCarthy’s claim of "half" is not far from the 42 percent figure."

"Our ruling

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy recently claimed "Half of everyone that’s here illegally (in the US) came here legally on a visa and have overstayed their visa."

Past fact checks found this statement and ones like it are generally correct. But they cautioned that the claims mainly rely on figures from a 2006 report, which used federal immigration data from the mid-1990s.

More recent Department of Homeland Security reports don’t offer the full picture of foreign visitors who arrived on visas.

A 2017 report by the Center for Migration Studies, however, gives a more current look at visa overstays. It shows McCarthy’s claim, while it should have been couched as an estimate rather than a statement of fact, is on the right track.

It projects overstayers were 42 percent, or nearly half, of the country’s undocumented population in 2014.

Finally, with the decline in illegal border crossings, it’s fair to estimate that visa overstayers now account for an increasing share of the country’s undocumented population.

We rate McCarthy’s statement Mostly True."

Politfact 8/24/2018 @ 4:15pm

"Vast majority" complete Bullxxit, goes back to doing some research, a learned skill that takes practice. Perhaps a step away from the keyboard and a purchase of "Researching online for dummies" by Reva Basch?" Apr 11, 19 9:11 AM

The dumb get dumber every day. Reminds me of an old saying " how'd they fit so much stupid in one head?"

CMS is a member of the Scalabrini International Migration Network (SIMN), a global network of 270+ entities that provide services to migrants, including shelters and welcoming centers in receiving communities. CMS is also a member of the Scalabrini Migration Study Centers, a network of think-tanks on international migration and refugee protection.

Of course this makes this a legitimate source silly.

What was that definition of dolt again?" Apr 14, 19 10:55 PM

State Supreme Court Issues Temporary Restraining Order Against Shinnecock Billboards

@polandspring:
Let me see if I can understand your simplistic understanding of what constitutes crime. You claim, boldly and quite incorrectly, that ALL this land was "STOLEN" from the native American. That is not possible because they migrated and settled here, just as the Viking Lief Eriksson had 400 years prior to Columbus, and then the Europeans.

The native American is from a single migration and descends from Ancient Beringia. This SINGLE migration of ALL native Americans originated in east Asia, namely Siberia.
The original lands of ALL native Americans is in Siberia, so, maybe Vlad will hear your complaint of stolen lands and return to the native American some nice area of Siberia.

Now if the native American can prove ownership to the beginning of time, that's a different story, but a "I got here first" defense is something I've heard children squabble in a playground at a swing, but when it comes to land masses it usually is the stronger, smarter military that determines who owns the land.

" Jun 1, 19 5:14 AM

@Poland
I did not realize a history lesson passed as classist or racist, just informative to the ignorant.

Speaking of which, please read my comment carefully. I never addressed the sign issue. My comment addresses the native American attitude of ALL this land is mine.

Any native American can own land. It's called a mortgage. "Technically" is an ownership term.

I hope this clears things up for you. Ignorance truly isn't bliss." Jun 1, 19 1:07 PM

State Approves Law To Allow Driver's Licenses For Undocumented Immigrants

There is no such thing as "Irish/Italian/African/French/English/snowflakes-American" just Americans with heritage. The sooner we figure that out the better for all of us.

And referencing Mr.0 ass**** comment, if you are a physically capable individual to walk thousands of miles, you are physically capable to stay put, stand up and fight for your country. If you are not willing to do that for your country, why would I want you here in mine." Jun 21, 19 8:14 AM

I could have bet on that." Jun 21, 19 4:57 PM

Again, not necessary. Standing up to evil takes courage, resolve, and a sacrificial love for ones nation. You've made your position crystal clear. You are a guest here.

Cartel "assassins"? Really? How about tatted up street punks. You have to be aware that we do have these "assassins" here in the states now. Not all that impressed. They come pouring in over the border feeding the cartel cash, which happens to be the real problem.

And back to the original AnythingBut-American, I have an all encompassing moniker to make it easier for everyone that really speaks to those who feel as if freedom just isn't enough, America owes THEM something for being here. The Kapernick, smollett, Glover, O'Donnell's of the nation.

Victimized-Americans" Jun 22, 19 9:27 AM

Uh, yeah it does. Freedom demands sacrifice because it never is free. You may not feel that way, and you can run if it comes down to it, I could care less. You are not American if you feel any different. You are a sheep. Like I said, you are a guest here.

As far as "impressed", far from it. I've dealt with street punks in the South Bronx, Jamaica, and any other crap hole you can think of. FAR from impressive." Jun 22, 19 5:53 PM

Like I've said, you are a guest. You admittedly will pay for protection, but if that protection fails you will run. How nice to be able to pay money for others to sacrifice blood for you." Jun 23, 19 7:06 PM

Priviledge or cowardice, tomato or tomahto." Jun 24, 19 3:27 PM

Shinnecock Urges State Supreme Court To Dismiss Lawsuit Over Billboards

Pretty sure you have no idea what you are talking about. The residences to the east and west have been in place decades. And please, stop with the stolen, I'm sure not every inch of soil in Southampton was occupied by a Shinnecock. Your time and energy would be better spent trying to take back the golf course that was "stolen" from you......" Jul 4, 19 10:17 AM

OLA Hosts Gathering In Sag Harbor To Support Local Immigrants

*sigh* hypocr......something.......something......

"Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,"

1 Timothy 1:8-10" Jul 14, 19 7:39 AM

A. Fore....please be more careful. The original post was about legality. I posted to respond to the dopey "something...something" comment critical of Christianity by my statement. Christians obey the Law. It is unlawful to knowingly and willfully enter this country by any means other than those set by the government. A child cannot be held responsible for actions of an adult. The child lacks a culpable mental state. So, before falling off your rocker laughing, think twice about what you are reading.

B. Question for you z, have you always been so pro immigrant?

And I quoted from the Bible, does not mean I am homophobic. Perhaps you've heard the saying "Love the sinner, hate the sin" so ignorant and childish to assume such as you two do. Thank God the majority of people don't see the U.S.A. as you.

Now go back and likey, likey each others posts. " Jul 14, 19 9:49 AM

It's amazing how you lib's act like school children making s**t up and then running in circles screaming about it.

"It is unnecessary to repost your edited, transparently misleading lie so often, Po Boy."...HHS

"....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....".....Trump, Unedited

"WHY DONT THEY...."

simple reading comprehension.

Now....explain to me brainiacs what makes a recommendation for someone to do something racist?

"It's all about the benjamins baby" Omar

Where is the Lib outrage, or is that not racist? You all are such hypocrites. And as I have stated many times before, I am NOT a Trump supporter, did not vote for him, but with what the dems are doing now to this country you are pushing me further into his corner. I wish Ben Shapiro would run and stomp out all this bulls**t.

Trump tweeted a suggestion for them to leave, fox the countries of their heritage, then COME BACK.

You've made the race card as watered down as the nazi card.

Congratulations. " Jul 18, 19 3:47 PM

He did not tell them to go back to their own country. He suggested that they do, clean whatever country it is up, then come back. Simple.

Here...an example....

Me: " Hey Fore, why don't you go back to your house and cut your lawn, it looks terrible, then come back and let's have a beer and you can help me with mine."

Did I TELL you to go do something? Did it sound racist?
And I notice nobody has anything to say about Omar and her anti-Semitic tweets.

Typical" Jul 18, 19 8:40 PM

HHS... no elaboration needed, your propensity to overlook the obvious is still as sharp as your mathematical and investigative skills, hovering somewhere as sharp as a banana.

Here, I will use your own words to help you squeeze out a legitimate thought.

HHS-
"@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America. ... "
--------------------------------

It is unnecessary to repost your edited, transparently misleading lie so often Po Boy.

We already know that lying is the center of your existence."

HHS-

"If you can't see the racism in an exhortation to AMERICAN CITIZENS OF COLOR to "go back to the crime infested place from which they came" then you ARE a true believer intellectually whether you voted for Trump or not."

TRUMP-

"Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came." - The Donald" (you must have taken out my unedited part to fit your false, misleading narrative.)

see....YOU are the one posting edited, transparently misleading lies.

Easy Peasy.....second grade stuff.

Congratulations on the anti semitic bill posed by your poster child of American standards Il Omar, thankfully she is a but a fly in the ointment.

" Jul 19, 19 12:36 PM

Oh silly sad hat.

You have stepped on to the proverbial land mind.

What, pray tell, is the definition of "exhortation"?

Let me help you bananaman.

ex·hor·ta·tion
/ˌeɡzôrˈtāSH(ə)n,ˌeksôrˈtāSH(ə)n/
noun
an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.

To URGE or to ORDER, that is the question....and you just answered it along with giving all posters in your little world the license to omit and alter others quotes to bend and twist in true liberal fashion to reach the conclusion you want to hear...as far from the truth it may be.

Now that my dear hat, is truly DUPLICITOUS AND DISHONEST." Jul 19, 19 9:31 PM

Thank you, HHS, for again proving that Trump merely suggested they return, not TELL them to return.

You keep proving my point for me! Wunderbar!

Now let's see....my definition of exhortation, which you failingly attempt to use against me.....

an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.

YOUR definition....purported to be from Miriam Webster, although you have once again posted misleading, patently false, dishonest, and altered information.

Here is the official Miriam definition, unedited.

exhortation noun
ex·​hor·​ta·​tion | \ ˌek-ˌsȯr-ˈtā-shən , -sər-; ˌeg-ˌzȯr-, -zər-\
Definition of exhortation
1 : an act or instance of exhorting
2 : language intended to incite and encourage

Are there any bounds to your editing? Now you can edit Webster's dictionary, which has been around since 1828, to prove your nothing more than large worded hack?

Your fumbled attempt to use my Google definition against me with your Webster definition is laughably ignorant. They are the same, which shows your self perceived intellectual supremacy above all others is really nothing more than poppycock.

Please...dont try to turn this into "Po Boy lie". You know very well it was an example of your utter hypocrisy calling out a posters for editing, when that is all you do. You continue to prove my second point for me by continuing to do so with every response.

You make this too easy.

Seems you reach is about as long and proportionate to a Tyrannosaurus Rex's arms." Jul 20, 19 11:26 AM

Thank you, HHS, for again proving that Trump merely suggested they return, not TELL them to return.

You keep proving my point for me! Wunderbar!

Now let's see....my definition of exhortation, which you failingly attempt to use against me.....

an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.

YOUR definition....purported to be from Miriam Webster, although you have once again posted misleading, patently false, dishonest, and altered information.

Here is the official Miriam definition, unedited.

exhortation noun
ex·​hor·​ta·​tion | \ ˌek-ˌsȯr-ˈtā-shən , -sər-; ˌeg-ˌzȯr-, -zər-\
Definition of exhortation
1 : an act or instance of exhorting
2 : language intended to incite and encourage

Are there any bounds to your editing? Now you can edit Webster's dictionary, which has been around since 1828, to prove your nothing more than large worded hack?

Your fumbled attempt to use my Google definition against me with your Webster definition is laughably ignorant. They are the same, which shows your self perceived intellectual supremacy above all others is really nothing more than poppycock.

Please...dont try to turn this into "Po Boy lie". You know very well it was an example of your utter hypocrisy calling out a posters for editing, when that is all you do. You continue to prove my second point for me by continuing to do so with every response.

You make this too easy.

Seems you reach is about as long and proportionate to a Tyrannosaurus Rex's arms." Jul 20, 19 11:27 AM

Hat, the fact that I have to go back and explain simple bits of information to you becomes quite a bore.

I stated clearly for the intelligent clear thinking subject, that the fact that you chose the word "exhortation" as your description of Trumps tweet made the tweet a mere suggestion, not a command, as the left leaning dolts would lead small minds to believe. By omitting the "Why dont they" from the unedited quote, the tweet is no longer an exhortation but an order.

You admittedly edit whatever you want to fit your narrative. So the category of left leaner fits you perfectly.

And YES.... Exhortation is a perfect example....as I said earlier....he urged them...not ordered.

YUUUUUGE DIFFERENCE. As Donald would say.

Thank you for proving my point....AGAIN.
" Jul 21, 19 1:10 AM

*sigh*

Hat....when did I misstate the meaning of exhortation?

And thank you, once again, for reporting to us all how you lack investigative skill by commenting on Trumps tweet without even reading it.

Bravo!" Jul 21, 19 9:36 AM

Speaking of dumb edits

To URGE or to ORDER, that is the question.

To URGE [or to] ORDER[COMMA]that is the [QUESTION].

Do I really have to to break this down for you?

I misconstrued nothing, you ignorantly assume, as is your modus operandi.

July 15 you state "whom he told to "go back where you came from""..your unedited, ignorant, uneducated and false statement. Now I could go and quote the definition of "told" from the Webster dictionary, but we all know now that you will edit even the dictionary if it fits your edited world, so we will leave it as "command" derived from tell. (Look it up, sharpen those banana skills)

July 19 you state that Trumps tweet is an "exhortation" while quoting it as an ORDER..."If you can't see the racism in an exhortation to AMERICAN CITIZENS OF COLOR to "go back to the crime infested place from which they came" now, as a case in point to offer proof of your hypocrisy, I use your own statements against you.

July 19

"HHS... no elaboration needed, your propensity to overlook the obvious is still as sharp as your mathematical and investigative skills, hovering somewhere as sharp as a banana.

Here, I will use your own words to help you squeeze out a legitimate thought.

HHS-
"@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America. ... "
--------------------------------

It is unnecessary to repost your edited, transparently misleading lie so often Po Boy.

We already know that lying is the center of your existence."

HHS-

"If you can't see the racism in an exhortation to AMERICAN CITIZENS OF COLOR to "go back to the crime infested place from which they came" then you ARE a true believer intellectually whether you voted for Trump or not."

TRUMP-

"Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came." - The Donald" (you must have taken out my unedited part to fit your false, misleading narrative.)

see....YOU are the one posting edited, transparently misleading lies.

Easy Peasy.....second grade stuff.

Congratulations on the anti semitic bill posed by your poster child of American standards Il Omar, thankfully she is a but a fly in the ointment.

By Bayman3142 (214), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 12:36 PM
___________________________________________________________________________________

YOU USED AN EDITED LIE TO ACCUSE ANOTHER POSTER OF USING EDITED LIES.

You see?
Apparently not.

So...it simple terms, you have stated the Donald "told"...("told to "go back where you came from"). You have stated he "exhorted"(exhortation)...(in an exhortation to AMERICAN CITIZENS OF COLOR to "go back to the crime infested place from which they came") you have stated pure nonsense. Trump never "told" them to do anything, the right wing media said he did. THAT'S the truth.

I blame you right wingers for Trump. The fact that you could not see America would not stomach Bill Clinton in the White House again in ANY capacity made it a forgone conclusion that Hillary would spend election night balled in the corner. And now your answer is defending these 4? And 20 candidates including Bill Deblasio, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and some knuckleheads who break into broken Spanish for no reason other than to fire up those of us who are already tired of bending over backwards? Welcome to 4 more years of cringe worthy tweets, unless Ben Shapiro steps up.

I'm afraid no matter how clear I make this for you, your ego will never allow you to see your utter failure in this argument, and your "moreover" bit is just a distraction from that failure in a true HHS hack.
" Jul 22, 19 11:19 AM

Fore, to the uneducated dolt, you are correct. And are you not racist? Or do agree with Nazi belief? Educate yourself." Jul 22, 19 3:01 PM

Ha!

The red ink hypocrisy strikes again!" Jul 24, 19 7:28 PM

Sag Harbor Interdependence Walk Takes Place Sunday

Schiff: Wake up Mr. Mueller

Mueller: I'm sorry?

Schiff: you looked like you were confused.

Mueller: repeat that please?

Schiff: I said you looked confused...

Mueller: where am I?

Good job dems, definitely reinforced the competence in the investigation. Nothing like putting up an old man who doesn't know who Ronald Reagan is when hired by him.

What a joke.

And now you take a celebratory lap.....completely baffling. But then again...what do we expect if it's a party full of people not willing to fight for what they believe in....right Fore?....just throw money at it, have others fight for you, and hope or pray you never have to run away. But if you do...that's democracy for you.

" Jul 25, 19 11:20 PM

@HHS

1) State your source. And don't make it the Hillary/Dem funded fantasy Steele children's book about spies and goblins in the Trump campaign. Oh...and it can't be the Mueller report either, because according to Mr. Mueller and his report...and here is an unedited quote from the report, not like your "edit to suit MY version", “did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.”

Good luck!

2) PERFERCT case in point of you being nothing but a big worded hack. Let's begin with second grade grammar and common knowledge of how the justice system works. "Evidence of obstruction of justice was uncovered"...correct, but muddy water. Fruit of the poisonous tree. These will all be opinions, but "whose criminality it is the sole prerogative of congress to determine"...yeah, right. Congress doesn't determine if obstruction is a crime, it already is. And if you are reaching for the impeachment twig...good luck....any case of obstruction is handled after Trump leaves office in 2024.

3) you sound like Rachel Maddog finding 1 page of Trump's income tax return. All giddy schoolgirlish. Of course it wasn't exculpatory. It never could be.

AND you hammer ALL my points about you and your complete nonsense, lies, misleading statements, and general doltology with this doosy....

"These are our darkest days"

Hmmmmm.....4/15/1865, 12/7/1941, 11/22/1963, 9/11/2001....

"The sky is falling"
Chicken little." Jul 26, 19 9:25 AM

Typical lies.

Fark much these days? Simple copy and web search brings me right to a site with the EXACT wording, and copy of a document stating specifically Pam Bondi and a Mr. James Rubin hired specifically as KEY personnel offering consulting and advocacy services regarding matters involving ANTI-human trafficking, not "for human trafficking" as you state.

And if it's the Money you are jealous of, maybe you should stop moderating google....oh, wait, google stopped that. Ok, stop truck driving and fiddling with computers and find a more lucrative career. This is America after all.

Or are you still hung up on the illegal immigrants taking jobs thing..." Jul 26, 19 12:11 PM

@HHS

Stupidity, ignorance, laziness, childish, embarrassing and intellectually inadequate.

Your words that can be used to describe 99.9% of your posts.

1) You should have mailed that to Mueller, you could have saved us all some time and money. Since you did not, 2 years of investigation "concluded that there was “insufficient evidence to charge a broader conspiracy” between Trump’s campaign and Russia." Time 7/24/19. You live in this fantasy world where, and I can picture this clearly, you finish your post and state out loud...."Highhat speaks and it is true."
You and the Donald could be the same person......wait.....are you?

2) Nice try, Jesus won't help you. Obstruction is and will always be a crime. You are confused....again. Congress will determine no such thing, but perhaps whether or not to move forward in the form of impeachment. Personally I hope they do. Then all you lefty likey's can go on and on about how Trump is done.....only to be embarrassed AGAIN....and come up with more conspiracy nonsense that is the hallmark of your totally dysfunctional party. (i.e. Wasserman, Pelosi, aoc, no migrant caravan but yet we have a border crisis....I could go on.)

3) exoneration noun
ex·​on·​er·​a·​tion | \ ig-ˌzä-nə-ˈrā-shən, eg- \

Legal Definition of exoneration
1 : the act of disburdening or discharging (as from a charge, liability, obligation, duty, or responsibility)
also : the state of being so freed
2a : the right of a person who has paid a debt for which he or she is only secondarily liable to be reimbursed by the person primarily liable
b : the right of a surety to require a person or estate that is subject to a liability for which the surety is secondarily liable to discharge the liability thus relieving the surety
also : the equitable remedy by which the surety compels discharge of the liability
Webster's (unedited)

Probably the most mindnumbing and idiotic Q&A, plus your use of it tells us alot. Exoneration is legally the improper term. See my above quotation from Time, it contains the word "charge" and explains their was insufficient evidence to do so. Now the definition of exoneration, disburdening or discharging. There was no charge to be discharged from. Try Exculpate.

Darkest days?
Sun is out. Belly is full. I have my freedom and my 2nd ammendment. Think I will go outside and sit by the pool with a glass of made in the USA sweet tea and "The right side of history" by Ben Shapiro. Highly recommend it.

No need to hide under a rock, the Republic is fine.

@z

Won't even waste my time on someone who quotes from fark...seems most feel the same by the lack of follow ups you receive." Jul 27, 19 10:37 AM

More ignorant gibberish.....to be expected at this point.

1) lies by omission. "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let's see if that happens." Trump. If I remember correctly, the U.S. government was also trying to locate these emails. With the way Comey was obsessed with trying to stop Trump instead of justice, Russia had a better chance. The press reaps the reward in the full context of his statement. It came 235 days since golden girl had last given a press conference, to busy wiping hard drives and smashing cell phones. Would damning emails help Trump? One could argue for and against seeing as every poll had Hill pummeling Trump.

2)AGAIN you just don't learn......

criminality noun
crim·​i·​nal·​i·​ty | \ ˌkri-mə-ˈna-lə-tē \
Definition of criminality
1 : the quality or state of being criminal
2 : criminal activity
urban criminality
Webster's
------------------------------------
THINK before you type. Try it sometime.
------------------------------------
crime noun
\ ˈkrīm \
Definition of crime
1 : an illegal act for which someone can be punished by the government
especially : a gross violation of law
2 : a grave offense especially against morality
3 : criminal activity
efforts to fight crime
4 : something reprehensible, foolish, or disgraceful (sounds like your post)
It's a crime to waste good food.
Webster's (edited by addition)

Talk about ignorance. Can you see something that BOTH definitions have in common? Congress DOES NOT determine whether Obstruction is a crime (which you correctly state it is) and congress DOES NOT determine CRIMINALITY because they are the SAME THING. Your whole statement is one largely written word hack that when broken down sounds like this:
"Obstruction is a crime and Mueller found evidence of obstruction, now it's up to congress to determine if the evidence makes obstruction a crime."

Now THAT is incoherent gibberish on a grand scale.

3) YOU stated "The report findings were NOT exculpatory, (Trump's mendacious claim of "exoneration" notwithstanding.)"

Which is why I gave you the .01% on the 99.9% of your posts. I agreed with you...no "exoneration", but "exculpatory" is the correct verbiage. Now....because 1 dolt (trump) misuses a word, does that give another dolt (Nadler) the right to verify the misuse of the word during a congressional hearing? That's all that happened, but apparently it is news worthy.

I'm still poolside, sky hasn't fallen." Jul 27, 19 2:34 PM

@HHS

Short, sweet, and simple for you, you are thoroughly lost.

"Obstruction of Justice is a crime."
highhatsize (4082), East Quogue on Jul 27, 19 1:02 PM

"Obstruction is NOT a crime unless the behavior reaches the threshold of criminal culpability"
highhatsize (4082), East Quogue on Jul 27, 19 7:03 PM

6 hours and 1 minute for you to show us your IGNORANCE.

I suggest you brush up on you criminal code, specifically 18 USC 1505 as it applies.

The "culpability" in federal matters is shallow if not empty.

The problem, highhatsize, is that you habitually embrace mindlessly prejudicial ideological BELIEFS and then try to validate them rationally by fabricating (using oversized verbiage) demented explanations that nobody accepts (or can even understand.)
" Jul 28, 19 8:48 AM

@HHS

Please STOP.

The doltishness and ignorance of your last post is completely MIND NUMBING, and shows us all you are a verbiage hack.

"There is NO DOUBT that Trump "OBSTRUCTED" the Russian election tampering investigation by FIRING Comey" (emphasis added)

1) THAT is what YOU BELIEVE happened. (That is your opinion, not a fact)

2) apparently leading you to the truth is futile, you just love to mislead and out right lie. 18 U.S.C. 1505....perhaps you should have taken a closer look at the 3 elements
1 and 2 fit, 3.....nope. Spelling EVERYTHING out for you is tedious.

“investigations by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) are not section 1505 proceedings” U.S. ATTORNEYS MANUAL.

And once AGAIN I can use your own post to describe your gibberish...

"Like The Donald's tweets, your every post is a testament to stupidity and laziness."

Let's hear some more verbiage vomit, I can't wait." Jul 28, 19 3:04 PM

You quote from fark. Proof positive of 11,429 ignorant, mindnumbing, doltish, and utter stupidity in your posts.

1512 has NOTHING to do in this matter. AGAIN proof of IGNORANCE and UTTER STUPIDITY in postings. it's no wonder nobody engages you in debate.

Perhaps you and your buddy here should dust up on legal definitions of PROCEEDINGS and INVESTIGATIONS. Keep posting...it's amusing to see how utterly ignorant you two are when I GIVE you the answer as to why Comey's firing CANNOT be obstruction straight from the U.S. ATTORNEYS MANUEL and the F.B.I. and held up in federal district court opinion UNITED STATES V HIGGINS.

Glad you maintain the faithful lapdog." Jul 29, 19 12:20 AM

@HHS

"Cite some references and provide us with the specific LANGUAGE to which you are referring and we can have a meaningful discussion."

There is no meaningful discussion with an individual(s) who haven't developed the necessary reading comprehension level of a second grade student.

"Cite some references"
1. U.S. Attorney's Manual
2. United States v Higgins

Apparently my abbreviation isn't sufficient, you actually like long posts, so here it is straight from the manual...

"investigations by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) are not section 1505 proceedings. United States v. Higgins, 511 F. Supp. 453, 455-56 (W.D. Ky. 1981); see also United States v. Scoratow, 137 F. Supp. 620, 621-22 (W.D. Pa. 1956) (FBI investigation is not a 18 U.S.C. § 1503 "proceeding"). But cf. 18 U.S.C. §§ 1510 and 1512(b)(3), (c)(2).

[cited in Criminal Resource Manual 1729; Criminal Resource Manual 1730]"

Now....EVERYTHING you have just poster on this 1505 matter is FALSE, MISLEADING, UTTERLY STUPID, and MINDLESS.

INVESTIGATION is not mentioned a SINGLE time in 1505. The whole purpose is protecting the integrity of the PROCEEDING. It is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.

"@ Bayman3142

18 USC 1505: "Whoever, with INTENT to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance ... " (emphasis added)
------------------------------

How can you possibly have read that statute and construe it to support your belief?"
HHS

I can't help the fact that you do not grasp the concept of losing, but your continuation in trying to prove the firing of Comey is considered obstruction of justice at this point is infantile.

Like all your verbiage vomited posts, the STUPIDITY and LAZINESS, along with a DISDAIN for the TRUTH is absolutely astonishing.

Spin away.
" Jul 29, 19 9:31 AM

@HHS

Does 18 U.S.C. 1505 make the firing of James Comey a case of obstruction of justice?" Jul 30, 19 10:22 AM

@HHS

I certainly hope you are not an attorney.

I wouldn't call that a "cognitive disorder", that is actually laying out my case clearly for any reader with a second grade reading comprehension level, with sources.

On the other hand the VERBIAGE VOMIT( to which you are the supreme leader) serves no purpose but to deflect and deny.

Here is a rabbit-hole for you.

"NO DOUBT"....."CLEARLY"....."I CERTAINLY THINK."..... [*flush*]" Jul 31, 19 8:35 AM

@HHS

If I am so confused, why don't you spell it out for me? Or is your typical response when found in a conundrum "that would be a waste of time" deflection.

My case was clearly presented for you to move from "no doubt" to "clearly" and at last "I certainly think" in the matter of the firing of James Comey being an act of obstruction under 18 USC 1505.

It was a simple YES or NO question you have squirmed for days out of answering, with LOTS and LOTS of verbiage vomit in between.

Again, answer or please STOP." Jul 31, 19 12:05 PM

@ HHS

Ah yes.....and now the "I never said that"

SOMBODY with access to your account posted the following.

"
@ Bayman3142

18 USC 1505: "Whoever, with INTENT to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct compliance ... " (emphasis added)
------------------------------

How can you possibly have read that statute and construe it to support your belief?

There is no doubt that Trump "obstructed" the Russian election tampering investigation by firing Comey. If his evil INTENT (mens rea) is proven, his behavior becomes criminal obstruction of justice."

Remember, we are discussing the firing of Comey. YOU said it is obstruction, I have CLEARLY proven you WRONG.

Since you cannot cognitively grasp anything beyond second grade reading comprehension AND now it appears memory loss has added to the list of your cognitive shortcomings....here.....read slowly......

"@HHS

Does 18 U.S.C. 1505 make the firing of James Comey a case of obstruction of justice? Jul 30, 19 10:22 AM appended by Bayman3142
*crickets*....
By Bayman3142 (229), Southampton on Jul 30, 19 10:22 AM"


"(If this is actually NOT the question to which you are seeking a YES or NO answer, please, please, tell me explicitly - - - and SUCCINCTLY - - - what it is you want and I will accommodate you.)"
HHS

SEEMS EXPLICIT and SUCCINCT to me.

Spin away" Aug 1, 19 2:52 PM

@HHS

Your first quote is all encompassing, not specific to the firing of Comey, so it holds no evidential value to support your belief.

Remember, for an obstruction charge, there would have to be willful intent to interfere with the investigation, and at that point on May 3, 2017, Trump had been told 3 times he was NOT under investigation by Comey himself.

A timeline shows no interruption in the investigation from the May 9, 2017 firing to the May 17, 2017 appointment of Mueller. Besides the fact that Comey was not conducting the investigation himself, but F.B.I.agents
under his direction were, and would not stop just because he was removed.

"Firing Comey would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural and probable effect of interfering with or impeding the investigationfor example, if the termination would have the effect of delaying or disrupting the investigation or providing the President with the opportunity to appoint a director who would take a different approach to the investigation that the President perceived as more protective of his personal interests." (Mueller V2 pg74)

Clearly he did not, in fact he knowingly appointed someone very close to Comey.

Also of note, It was recommended to Trump to fire Comey on May 3, 2017 by Jeff sessions.(Mueller report V2 pg62)

Helen Murillo is an interesting read, written by a law student, but also shows no proof the firing of Comey came close to rising to the elements found in 18 U.S.C. 1505.
" Aug 3, 19 11:35 AM

Alas you are so far gone in your solipsistic and narcissistic ways as to discredit the report written by "A principled, dedicated public servant"(your words) Bob Mueller.

And so you have come full circle in this argument. Praising Mueller, and now, sadly you discredit him.

When will the Left learn. First it was Comey, hero of the people to zero, then came Obama, hero of the people to zero, and now Mueller.

What a sad state the Democrats find themselves in." Aug 4, 19 12:20 PM

@HHS

"YOU" discredit Mueller when my case is based on letter of the law, spirit of the law, and Comey's own report that shows the firing did not meet the criteria of Obstruction.

If you can't see the correlation between the Dems and Comey, Obama, and now Mueller...you should leave your house more often. There is a whole world outside your solipsistic life.

@Fore

Name one." Aug 4, 19 8:02 PM

UPDATE: President Trump Arrives In Southampton To Attend Private Fundraisers On East End Friday

Ah, ignorance has a new face named junebug. Pantaleo did not choke Eric Gardner to death. In fact, it is physically impossible to kill someone with a seven second choke hold. The fact that the criminal Garner was able to speak AFTER he was released is proof positive that the choke hold did not kill him. Oh, and for a period of time in the seven seconds the choke hold was deemed to be justifiable. Justice was not "FINALLY" done. That occurred when a grand jury failed to indict, and the federal government found no cause.
Seems your ignorant statement qualifies you to join the circle jerk." Aug 20, 19 5:49 PM

That would be relevant.....if any of those actually occurred in the contributing factors. " Aug 21, 19 8:44 AM

How about no. Keep trying tho, you'll find something to fit your narrative. Start with obesity, maybe failure to comply, then possibly asthma.

Hmmmmmmm...." Aug 22, 19 12:03 AM

Ah....and now your narrative is complete. By the way you two geniuses, was the criminal Garner able to speak while he was in this "choke" hold? Is a fight against a law enforcement officer a fight for his life?

How about this for the ignorant uninformed keyboard commando....no resisting=no physical force=a living, breathing citizen. THAT is true of ALL these cases.

Thanks for the code of ethics.....civilians should follow the same creed.

" Aug 22, 19 9:00 AM

Easy....

NO

You continue this ridiculous habit of proving my point for me, simple reading comprehension on your nonsense cite broken down for you to try and understand. AND this is all your cite.

1. Dr. Persechino, a veteran city medical examiner, stood by her finding that his death was a homicide caused by the officer’s use of force.

Homicide caused by the officer's use of force is what a reporter, who knows who, says happened. NOT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER. This gets so tedious. I wish you would read the reports and educate yourself alittle instead of all this ignorant opinion pieces you post

In your post IS WHAT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER STATED VERBATIM....did you not see that?

“The chokehold is a significant initial factor of the cascade,” is WHAT SHE STATED. Not HOMICIDE CAUSED BY CHOKEHOLD. A "initial factor of the cascade" that caused Garners death.

VERY FIRST PARAGRAPH OF YOUR CITE....
The doctor who performed an autopsy on Eric Garner testified on Wednesday that a police officer choked him with enough force that it triggered a “lethal cascade” of events, ending in a fatal asthma attack.


FATAL ASTHMA ATTACK

Unbelievably obvious.

and go ahead and post testimony when I start citing it as truth.

Now....where did your "friend" work.?" Aug 23, 19 2:38 PM

Hey fred.....your village just called, they want you to come back.

You want to put a reporter up against a certified report....your problem. I think even fore would have a hard time defending what you have stated it is so moronic." Aug 23, 19 5:44 PM

Hey freddy, that cognitive thing is kicking into high gear.

Here are some FACTS for you, I am really trying not to laugh....

On August 23rd I posted this to you.....

"In your post IS WHAT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER STATED VERBATIM...did you not see that?

“The chokehold is a significant initial factor of the cascade,” is WHAT SHE STATED. Not HOMICIDE CAUSED BY CHOKEHOLD. A "initial factor of the cascade" that caused Garners death."

Now tell me freddy.......what does the above ALL CAPS FOR EMPHASIS say?

I'll make it easier and pull 2 out so as to not jumble them in the statement...

IS WHAT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER STATED VERBATIM

is WHAT SHE STATED

Is that easy enough for you?

Oh, and the coroner's report.....its an official document, not a published report. How about that?






" Aug 24, 19 8:33 AM

Freddy? You back at the village?" Aug 24, 19 8:03 PM

Freddy, your inability to stand down from a moronic false narrative speaks volumes. YOU are what is wrong with this country right now. You see something in a liberal rag and spread it like gospel truth without even attempting to verify the information. (Calling a "friend" doesn't count freddy) It's small minded at best and stupidity for certain. These false stories get people killed, so if you feel I am "bullying" and "intimidating" I'll take it. Unfortunately guys like you dont have the cognitive ability to see the truth and rely on someone telling them what their version of the truth is. Then guys like you go running off at the mouth like professors of doltology, spreading lies and misinformation to other small minded believers.That is also a sign of intellectual weakness.

You have alot to say with your 2896 comments...2895 of them false and outright lies.

That's being kind." Aug 25, 19 8:38 AM

Oh freddy, you dont even know what you asked me to say yes or no to. Dementia? Cognitive disability? It's funny how you keep up with the "you're a bully...you're being intimidating....your foolish...wah way wah." Its guys like you that actually raise my already healthy self esteem. Now I'm a racist, apologist, and bigoted... thank you. Knowing that someone like yourself thinks this of me means I am the exact opposite because of your lack of reading comprehension, hubris, and general lack of cognitive thought process that amounts to small mindedness.

Between Aug 22 and Aug 23 you went on a 7 post rambling, disingenuous,
Counter productive rant about what the medical examiner said. I agreed totally that what you had cited as coming from the medical examiner and it is and was true. You just can't seem to follow along because of an apparent attention span issue.


As far as me telling you to shut your mouth. Your implication that cops are cold blooded killers was so heinous, you definitely should shut your mouth.
Or is that not what you stated? See, I can speak about law enforcement because I've been there....you speak about it, never having been, calling "friends", and because you are a keyboard commando with no experience just ignorant opinions. My "weak" argument comes from personal experience and knowledge of the NYPD patrol guide. Your argument comes from biased news services and ignorance. (And a mystery "friend" who you wont even divulge where they worked) You, and this "friend" don't even know who said what. James O'Neil is not a chief as pointed out by your buddy, does not write the rules, nor does anyone who happened to be anywhere near him...."He then added , do you see the guy standing behind the chief when he was giving the verdict, the guy writes the rules , what is a chokehold etc,my friend stated it’s just bs to deny it wasn’t." fred a. Aug 22 9:10. No chief, no rule writer, and certainly no verdict.
So now you and your friend are ignorant and I am 100% positive he never work for the NYPD.

So let me ask you a question since you are sticking to your "cite" is this cite you used true...yes or no. If yes, support your statement with proof from the medical examiner's report or any direct statement by any medical examiner involved in the case.

"Though Mr. Garner had high blood pressure and chronic asthma, Dr. Persechino, a veteran city medical examiner, stood by her finding that his death was a homicide caused by the officer’s use of force. “The chokehold is a significant initial factor of the cascade,” she said. Did the coroner say that? Yes or no? She said a chokehold. Answer yes or no. Then you can go on with your petty name calling . Yes or no. Answer"
Fred s. Aug 23 12:49

Thanks Freddy" Aug 25, 19 2:08 PM

Fore posts something benighted? Shocker....and it's the blue wall of silence. You cant even get your insults right.

One last time......

Dr. Persechino, a veteran city medical examiner, stood by her finding that his death was a homicide caused by the officer’s use of force.

Dr. Persechino official cause of death listed on autopsy report....

ASTHMA.

Facts are facts, Lies are lies, and the ignorant remain ignorant." Aug 26, 19 9:38 AM

Hey Freddy....you've already opened your mouth so much the doubt factor no longer exist.

Thanks Mark!

The village still calls...but now it asks if fore is available if you are not." Aug 27, 19 9:35 PM

Students Voice Their Concerns About Returning To School In Climate Of Gun Violence

Good Lord fred, stop repeating that lame "do nothing solve nothing" statement. Why use an obvious scenario to try and prove a point? Does not make any sense whatsoever.

And it's not the guns. Guns don't just go walking in and firing away. It is ALWAYS an individual who has one of the following. 1. Absentee parents, 2. Single mom, has been 3. bullied repeatedly, or a 4. societal loner.

That covers it. The shootings in Chicago, 1 and 2, school shootings, 1,3, and 4. Delaware 1 and 2.

Klebold and Harris. The originals. Complete opposite individuals. Harris is likable, but brags about his ability to deceive. In high school Harris becomes angry with everyone around him. Klebold is "painfully shy" but prone to verbal outburst. They were know to sit alone together and a rumor spread they were romantically involved. It is believed Harris' rage and hatred for society feed Klebold's poor self esteem and need for revenge stemming from years of bullying.
(Sources: "Eric Harris" writing, "at least we know why the Columbine killers did it" slate magazine, the Columbine papers, time magazine, the Columbine tapes, time magazine.)


Anyone aware that the two made a video of shooting students in the hallways of Columbine for a school project entitled "Hitmen for Hire" in which a teacher praised the project? You can watch it on youtube. Haunting to say the least.

So tell me...where is the gun at fault more so than society, parents, and teachers?

I'm all for gun control. I believe you need a month long course on how to handle, shoot, clean, store, and when to use your weapon. And in the course of the month you will be subject to a mental fitness test. Then you are licensed and can carry. If you really want a weapon you will have no problem going nights and weekends to attain the RIGHT to carry.

So please stop with the ban this ban that and start with the problem. Political Correctness and snowflakes. Sorry if your feelings got hurt, I'd rather your feelings hurt then people die. So if a teacher says you are a threat, you go someplace to neutralize it. Period.


Oh....if you really want to see how it works....try Switzerland." Sep 10, 19 10:16 AM

Freddy, show me where I called you a name, was it snowflake that offended you? Generally speaking a blanket statement that strikes a cord with an individual has some merit to it. You statement makes little to no sense.

"No.every persons life experiences unfold exactly how you describe it. Maybe sometimes." What? Reread my statement. Was I talking about "EVERYONE"? or did I refer to the mass shooter/shooting incidents? And where pray tell do you see some "psuedo macho bs"? Please explain. I look forward to hearing about it, or just say I'm a bully and not answer for any of your claims and statements as always.

Fore....too simplistic and useless. What does a waiting period serve? And these "red flag' shenanigans as proposed are nothing but a lawsuit in the making.

Hypothetical: red flag can be placed on anyone by who exactly? A neighbor who sees his neighbor shoot the family dog? Sounds like a good time to throw the flag, yes?

What if neighbor 1 is angry with neighbor 2 for some small perceived slight and knows neighbor 2 loves his time at the range so he calls the cops and concocted a story so they come and take his guns away. Neighbor 1 gets to remain anonymous and neighbor 2 has to fight to get his rights back.

What about the returning soldier from a war zone who suffers from PTSD, shows no signs of hurting himself or others, is just having a tough time with his time in the warzone but is getting help and is medicated and feeling better. Does he lose his rights? He served his country, would you take his guns away now?

And to think it's just the Republicans is just ignorant. It's both side. The Dems want to take away to many freedoms so the Republicans fight to keep all of them with nobody talking any sense in the middle. Please stop with the evil on one side of the aisle nonsense.

The answer is Switzerland. 47 attempted gun homicides in 2016 and a near 0 murder rate along with a over 2 million gun ownership in a nation of 8 million.

Oh...and freddy...above is the reason political correctness has everything to do with it. Do some research...or call your police buddy." Sep 10, 19 4:27 PM

Freddy, again, WHAT?

"All the mass murders had a few things in common. They were human beings, they killed people and they used guns. Not a 100% , but the vast majority"

Did I state the mass murders were conducted by anything other than human beings? Perhaps animals? Aliens? Bad tofu? And you can not state "All" and then back off with "not 100%"....is it "All" or is it sometimes?

As far as my P.C. and snowflakes statement, 1. I never backed off it, and stand by it. If your feelings get hurt because a teacher tells a parent and child after plenty of documentation, that they belong somewhere "special" to safeguard the students and the child, oh well, get over it. 2. This scenario is not Politically correct. 3. If this scenario offends anyone, they are a snowflake and should immediately find a "safe spot" and listen to Yanni for comfort.

"put where you get your facts from, there are many unreliable sources" freddy, why can I continue the debate with fore if there are so many "unreliable" sources. Fore seems to finding the same (or close) facts I am. Meanwhile YOU post "All the mass murders had a few things in common. They were human beings, they killed people and they used guns. Not a 100% , but the vast majority" an at once imperical fact statement (all the mass murders) with no factual basis that you then retreat from.

Where are your sources freddy? Mine are simple to verify, "Switzerland murder rate" "gun ownership in Switzerland"

Your "cite the source" argument has shown up in many of your past "debates" with others, such as PO boy. It always comes as the last gasps of a dying "argument".

I am crystal clear on what my rights are freddy, I have the RIGHT to own my guns. It is not a privilege like a driver's license. It is an absolute as an American. Look into and be prepared to get yourself "sad".

Hope this clears up my original post for you freddy. I never called you a name, laid out my plan clearly, and explained why I felt it was the a good plan. You got you feathers ruffled and went off rambling. Not my problem.

Fore. I would not expect you to know anything about what my "toys" are for. You are a self proclaimed pacifist who would rather pay others to fight for you, and if they happen to lose, move on to someplace else.

Have you forgotten I was part of the "blue shield of silence". Seems being a part of that club makes me care deeply about innocent lives. What have you done to protect the innocent? You paid money.

The numbers don't lie. My plan is the same today as it was days ago. Your just too dug in on the left." Sep 11, 19 9:09 AM

Climate Change Is Happening On The East End

You just can't fix stupid.


"A gun just makes killing easier"
WHAT??

lazy, ignorant, boorish, and dumb.

Hmmmmm....let's see, human history, in which you seem to think GOD is the perpetrator in mass murder, harkens back to....
Swords, spears, clubs, rocks, bow and arrows, knives, bombs, and fist. All items used at one time or another to stand up.

OF COURSE a gun makes killing easier. WHAT are you getting at? It's the gun that does the killing? Only a dumb @@s would think that.....mucho estupido.

Try digging a little deeper for the root of the problem, I'd lay it out but "somebody" would be offended and red ink it.

Little corner, little blanky." Sep 24, 19 12:37 AM

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