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Questions are raised over Town Board candidate's fund-raising restrictions

Because folks of your persuasion make it sound as though the sky is falling due to the fact that it has never happened in Southampton." Feb 4, 10 7:57 AM

He has, I am sure some accumulated vacation or compensation time.

In no way does he have "years" of time. " Feb 4, 10 7:59 AM

What does PAL people have to do with this?

I've received those calls as well and inquired as to what their organization does in Southampton Town. I usually hear complete silence then thank them for the call and hang up.

The local Police Athletic League is not affiliated with the groups from state or county that malke these calls.

When and where have you ever been "strong armed" in person for a PAL donation?

Don't count on the local cable to broadcast the debates to fit your schedule. Get out to a debate.

Hampton Bays is I believe on the 16th and Flanders in on the 22nd." Feb 4, 10 8:06 AM

Pick up the phone, contact the candidates themselves and ask the questions you pose. Please let us know the response you receive.

Now jump on the highhat bandwagon, without questioning the legality of his issues or the real implications of imposing them.

You do realize that:
(a) over the years this provision of the NYS Retirement law has never been enforced and
(b) enforcing retirement upon completion of 20 years service is at the option of the Town Board. I could very easily see how the Town Board using your ( "I trust no one" theory would pick and choose who they force into retirement based on political affiliation or who they issed a traffic ticket to.

Think it through, while I rarely agree with your opinion, you are in no way as smal minded and myopic as highhat." Feb 4, 10 8:13 AM

Thiele wants to gauge public interest on a proposed Peconic Bay Transportation Authority

Couldn't agree more. Fred goes to the top of the self grandizing line for this one. " Feb 4, 10 8:14 AM

I contend thsat is is NOT a step in the right direction. What purpose does this action propose to do?

What is the reality of that occurring?
"But even if the bill becomes law and a public vote is held in November, the measure would be non-binding, meaning that it is intended only to gauge public support of the idea,"

It would be a lot less expensive amd more telling if a poll was done.

My criticism is directed at Mr Thiele, please don't bunch him in with the others, I didn't.
" Feb 4, 10 10:54 AM

Questions are raised over Town Board candidate's fund-raising restrictions

It has been explained that he likely has unused vacation time he has to use up.

He has not worked as a PO since he received the nomination.

Just what is it that you are attempting to doSHNative? You just like the idea of slandering a Republican. " Feb 4, 10 1:27 PM

Thiele wants to gauge public interest on a proposed Peconic Bay Transportation Authority

No Vince, I am not happy with the issues you mention. But I;d like a realistic solution, not chest beating.

Do you think that ANY bill introduced by a minor party assemblyman has a snowballs chance in hell to even get out of committee?

Just saying." Feb 4, 10 1:30 PM

Questions are raised over Town Board candidate's fund-raising restrictions

Care to explain what is "scary and wrong" with an American citizen partaking in the process?" Feb 4, 10 3:09 PM

Gotten away with what?

You folks are like the creatures following the Pied Piper off the cliff!!

freelance says:
"all police officers who ran for public office in Suffolk County, you'll notice that most of them did not step down or take leave".
That is an out and out lie! Would you please document your claims in some manner?

" Feb 4, 10 3:14 PM

I am sure freelance appreciates you speaking up for him/her and defending his/her unfounded claims" Feb 4, 10 5:15 PM

Well freelance YOU made the claims. YOU should document what you wrote. Until you do I consider your post to be an outright lie. I am fairly familiar with politics and politicians throughout Long Island, and your claim just does not hold water.

There is nothing intimidating about the truth.

Now, how have police "changed the face of politics"?" Feb 4, 10 5:19 PM

No, the retirement law states that a police officer is held employed beyond 20 years service "at the pleasure of the Town Board"." Feb 4, 10 5:21 PM

Spend the $1.00 and read the whole story. The one with the headline that says
"Hughes Addresses Concerns Regarding Campaign" and
BOE says he can raise funds for election run

No where near as inflamatory as the headline here. " Feb 4, 10 5:24 PM

It would not be an "all Republican board"" Feb 4, 10 5:25 PM

Then direct your concerns to the IT folks that run the PD website, Common Sense. The fact that he has filed for retirement and is using up vaction time has already been discussed. If you want to play detective , go work on the Lindberg baby caper.
Further, your insinuation that the arrest of a sitting politician by an separate ageny for DWI is in no way germaine to this topic.
Surely you are not attempting to say he is guilty by association to an act that did not occur?

You should further note that it was Mr Hughes who did the leg work, prior to being interviewed for this position as to any legal obstacles that he may cross. You have NO reason what so ever to question his judgement and infer a lack of integrity.
There are words to describe how you come acrosss to anyone who has ever known Mr Hughes as a Police Officer, member of the community, father, neighbor and decorated warrior. I shall not use them and give you the satisfaction. " Feb 5, 10 10:54 AM

I welcome you to do just that.
How did you make out with your phone call to the candidate?" Feb 5, 10 12:51 PM

Thank You Dave, I wanted to puke when I read that but I let it slide.

While it certainly not the only resason to vote for an individual, it is indicative of one's character.

Once again, publius, how did you make out with that phone call?" Feb 5, 10 3:04 PM

foodie, (or is it Sally?)

The Hatch Act refers to FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. In VERY rare circumstances:

"The Hatch Act also applies by extension to certain employees of state and local governments whose positions are primarily paid for by federal funds. It has been interpreted, for instance, to bar employees of state agencies administering federal unemployment insurance programs, or appointed local law enforcement agency officials with oversight of federal grant funds, from political activity".

Please note the key words "primarily paid" and "appointed."

Your lack of an indepth ability to interpet law is scarey.

And please would you show some proof where it "has been applied in cases such as these" as you claim?

" Feb 5, 10 3:16 PM

It was my intent to point out that that provios dealing with retirement opun completion of 20 years service, is done "at the pleasure of thetown board"

Thats just wrong for many reasons." Feb 5, 10 3:27 PM

Win, lose or, well there is no "draw" here, Bill Hughes' police career is over. He is not going to put his uniform on, grab a police car and write tickets to anyone who didnt vote or support him. And while I know it is not your intention to infer that, others have.
Ask Lyle Smith his opinion of Bill. I havent spoken to Lyle since before Bill was even a potential candidate so I dont know his opinion. But there is no doubt in my mind that he hold Bill in high regard.
Just becuase, under certain circumstances there COULD be a conflict, that does not mean that should be the mesuring stick applied. " Feb 5, 10 4:07 PM

But his phone number is there, make the call. " Feb 5, 10 4:08 PM

Then one may want to look into the date of retirement and fundraising of NY State Senator Eric Adams" Feb 5, 10 4:33 PM

I really don't see any VALID questions raised concerning either his judgment or perspecrtive.
Or, if you do have concerns, you could do as publius intends to do ( I am sure) which is to call Mr Hughes directly and ask your questions. " Feb 5, 10 9:17 PM

Once again, SHNative, spend the dollar and read the whole story. The REPORTER stated that Mr Hughes was "stepping back" If you read the ful story you will see there never was anything for Mr Hughes to "step back" from.

Can you let us know what the Dems are campaigning on now that It appears as though there is no budget crisis that Sally Pope "discovered" and the plans to build over a plume in Speonk have been rejected by the Planning Board? Seems they let the process work before saying no. Horror of horrors, I guess. " Feb 6, 10 7:45 AM

Oh, go ahead and make the call. Publish the results right here, my friend. " Feb 6, 10 8:36 AM

Please, show me where Mr Hughes said he was "stepping back" from anything.

It is so hard for you to grasp the concept that he did his due diligence prior to accepting the nomination?

And that he has lived strictly by all the laws that govern the political process?" Feb 6, 10 8:39 AM

I am merley calling publius out. If he is SO concerned about this he would make the clall and inquire to Mr Hughes himself.
He spent days asking who Al Hobbs is. 2 seconds on google and he would have known. " Feb 6, 10 5:57 PM

"To read the entire article, pick up the the Feb 4 issue of The Southampton Press."

You do realize CommonSense, that
A) you have less than all the facts and
B) It is the reporter that stated Mr Hughes was "stepping back"

The reporter infers that prior to this "breaking news", that something was amiss. This is clearly not the case and if you take the time to read the actual story, you will see once again that Mr Hughes campaign crossed the t's and dotted the i's before he entered this campaign.

There is no issue with Mr Hughes knowing who contributes to his campaign. The restriction is on his asking for donations, and handling those funds. ( i.e opening the envelope and depositing the funds).

I have not, and will not apologize to anyone for the acts of others as you infer.

End of story.

" Feb 7, 10 7:42 AM

For the 4th or 5th time SHNative, where did Mr Highes, and not the reporter say that?

Once again, the Election Law prihibitionis on him soliciting funds and handling the proceeds.

Where the mail is sent has no bearing on this at all. " Feb 7, 10 11:07 AM

Now that we are completly off topic.....
If Candidate Hughes or Candidate Fleming, or Candidate McCain, or Candidate Obama, or Candidate Cuomo or Candidate Lazio yadda yadda yadda made "lowering taxes" the primary plank in their platform, there would be no chance of that candidate getting my vote.
I am a grown up, treat me as one.
Aside from politically expediatant temporary cuts or reductions, taxes don't go down. They never have, they never will.
How a candidate intends to spend the money collected in taxes, and not increasing them, now THAT gets my attention.
Attend the debates and ask the questions. " Feb 7, 10 3:06 PM

No, Ryan is not Bill Hughes son. " Feb 8, 10 5:32 PM

I have no idea. " Feb 8, 10 10:41 PM

Southampton Village Police pursue suspected DWI driver before dropping chase

And WHAT would someone be arrested for?

WHO would be arrested?

Are you sure the driver was familiar with "The Res"?

You're pretty critical of situations not knowing all there is to know." Feb 10, 10 11:34 AM

Questions are raised over Town Board candidate's fund-raising restrictions


Pick up the phone and ask him yourself. " Feb 10, 10 2:52 PM

Southampton Village Police pursue suspected DWI driver before dropping chase

This is easy PBR, the bad guy got away, no one was hurt. End of story. Doo doo occurs." Feb 10, 10 2:54 PM

Questions are raised over Town Board candidate's fund-raising restrictions

Well, first off, his number is posted on his website, apparently for a reason. For people like you, who have questions. duh

I don't know or care what "truth" you are seeking.

If ,in fact, Ryan is in someway related to Mr Hughes, ddoes that infer a conspiracy of somesort?

You do realize, don't you, that one doesnt get appointed to a postion of Police Officer without having gone through civil service testing. (written, medical, physical, mental )

Dude, why do I have to explain anything to you? YOU have the question, YOU do the research." Feb 10, 10 3:28 PM

Southampton Village Police pursue suspected DWI driver before dropping chase

It will occur again, Bad guys run from the cops. People get caught in the middle. Though MOST DWI related fatalities have nothing to do with a pursuit by LEO. Just the way it is. Been that way a long time. As sad as that may be.

Blood on MY hands?

Dude, fix your tin foil hat. " Feb 10, 10 3:33 PM

PBR says:
The Southampton Village PD "probably" has a good lead on this perpetrator. Again, read the article. The pursuing officer was close behind the car and either got a plate ID or a good description of the car.

Where do you see that in the article? I added the quotes. Where does it say anything about "close behind" ?

You and others assume that the driver was connected to the res. He well could have been from Carnarsie and just got lost.

He goes on:

You seem to be happy with the scenario that the bad guy got away.

Not at all, but he did get away, it happens.

LEO as in Law Enforcement Officer. Pretty simple.

No and no.

Is it your belief that if there were to be an arrest, for vehicle and traffic violations only at this time, then this scenario would never occur again?

Tell me, in your mind how an arrest comes to be? Does the miscreant fall on his knees and confess?

What charges do you think would come from this? And what penalties do you think would be imposed?
" Feb 10, 10 5:19 PM

Questions are raised over Town Board candidate's fund-raising restrictions

PBR, you don't get it do you? You most certainly want to imply that there exists nepotism at the PD. And you would be dead wrong as far as I can see. I have answered you factually and when I dont know the answer I provided to you a means by which YOU can research and find out the answer.

Where did I dance around anything?

Try this: Mr Hughes has published his phone number on his website. I will assume ( knowing the ramifications of assuming anything) that the purpose of that was if anyone, (including you) has a question, they could contact him. I do believe that is a reasonable statement. You should be able to get answers to all your questions that way.

If you think you are being "sandbagged" once the call is made, then say so here. Is that fair enough?

If you want to marry another story to this and my responses there try this: please call Chief Wilson and express your concern, and post his response here as well.

" Feb 10, 10 5:29 PM

OK scratch the tin foil hat comment. You need Flash Gordon's flux capacitator. " Feb 10, 10 5:38 PM

Southampton Village Police pursue suspected DWI driver before dropping chase

PBR queries:
Are you associated in any way (employment or otherwise) with Southampton Village, in general or the PD?

My response :

no and no

skipping over the "no and no" "answers" which are not all that clear.]

Not clear?

" Feb 10, 10 6:40 PM

Westhampton Beach Village Board rejects all seven resolutions pertaining to two police officers

pub says:

I have repeatedly requested that the report be released so that this community can judge for ... more itself whether the report mandates further inquiry which the Board of Trustees has declined to do.

What was the process you followed to have it released?" Feb 12, 10 12:00 PM

Southampton Village denies request for police records

Per NYS Law a cop can work off duty in most capacities.Licensed premises being prohibited.
Being the investigative journalist that you are, just what do you think would come to light if the info requested was produced?
Up until you read this headline, had you EVER questioned the employment of cops while "OFF DUTY"? And in the slight chance you had, what did you do about it?" Feb 19, 10 11:51 AM

Southampton Village Police pursue suspected DWI driver before dropping chase

Read the story again Sherlock. What "update" do you think is coming? " Feb 19, 10 11:53 AM

Southampton Village denies request for police records

They are prohibited by NYS law from working in a bar or any licensed establishment. Other than that, they are free to work while off duty." Feb 19, 10 1:27 PM

PBR blathers:

"As OUR employees, however, they should be required to disclose the details of the second jobs publicly, so that we can check up on them."

No, they are employees of the Village of Southampton, a legal entity, not YOU. Next time you get stopped for a traffic violation tell the cop that you "pay his salary and that he works for you" You'll make out just fine.

"So that WE can check up on them"? Come on , give us some details, please.

Tell me this, if the cop is spending his day at a computer doing daytrading of stocks, how do you "check on them"?
if the cop is at a word processor, writing a book, how do you "check on them"?
if he is mowing a lawn, how do you "check on them"?
and then if a cop is activated in the Reserves and is sent to a combat zone, are you going to "check on them"?

Need I go on?" Feb 19, 10 1:33 PM

Southampton Village Police pursue suspected DWI driver before dropping chase

Not in the least. It occurs. Not every crime is solved, that is obvious. But in this case it worked out like I predicted. The bad guy got away. No one is going to fall on their knees and confess to having been the driver. And the owner of the car is likely keeping his or her motuh shut as well.
Tell us, how would YOU have handled it, from the start. " Feb 19, 10 1:43 PM

Southampton Town Board candidates square off in first debate

Once again, this is your singular issue. The cops are not "supposed" to be retired on completion of 20 years, but MAY be retired on the "pleasure" of the town board.
We don't need politicians deciding when to retire someone based on who that cop may have written a ticket to. " Feb 20, 10 12:52 PM

Problem with the 2 bedroom apartment Bob, is that when that toddler goes to school, it will cost $21,000.00 per year to educate him. I am quite sure that the rent ( and associated property tax) will not come anywhere near what the taxes needed to do that are.
There is also no doubt that your family could have found something affordable and closer than Holbrook.
And yes, the water, the beaches, and open spaces ARE important. We live in a suburban/rural area. Not Queens. It is what has attracted so many people to the area and what voters have stated over and over again is what is important to them, in the form of bonds and transfer fees to preserve open spaces, sales taxes for drinking water, etc. " Feb 20, 10 12:59 PM

Southampton Village denies request for police records

Your insane comments have NOTHING to do with this story." Feb 20, 10 5:16 PM

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