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Southampton Village To Modify Snow Removal Plans In Wake of Complaints

End of plastic bags...There they go again...What else can they think of to complicate commerce in the village? " Jan 26, 11 2:04 PM

ZBA To Decide on Tuckahoe 7-Eleven Next Month

Bankruptcy might be a better option. If they can lower their debt servicing costs they might be able to charge a lower rent and thereby attract more potential renters. " Jan 26, 11 2:26 PM

New Health Care Plan Pitched To Westhampton Beach Village

Could residents/taxpayers participate in these plans or is it just for municipal employees? " Jan 26, 11 3:03 PM

Village Latch Inn Hotel Listed At $24.9 Million

Is the area zoned for a Casino?" Jan 26, 11 3:08 PM

Storm Punctuated By Snow, Freezing Rain And Sleet Dumps More Than A Foot Of Snow On Long Island

Thanks. " Jan 26, 11 3:18 PM

Before we send the highway department to NYC. Lets make sure the SH Village is in good shape." Jan 26, 11 3:23 PM

If my leaves are now in front of my neighbors house, are they still my leaves? " Jan 27, 11 5:09 PM

They changed headlines since the thread began." Jan 27, 11 8:48 PM

Rechlers Seeking Amendments To Gabreski Airport Project

My guess is that to attract a hotel chain, you need to place the hotel close to a main road where it will be visible and easily accessible. To place it further away makes the site less attractive. Also, given that it is an airport ( I have not looked at plan), maybe having building on the periphery might make more sense. Is the building lower or higher than currently existing hangars?" Jan 28, 11 11:22 AM

Thanks for pointing this out. I'm not aware of their track record. I am concerned that they are involved in two major projects in the Town. Would rather see them complete one and then look at the other. Are there any other developers involved? I would have presumed that more developers and contractors would have been involved. Looks to me like the town got themselves into quite a pickle with these people and their litigious penchant." Jan 28, 11 11:51 AM

ZBA To Decide on Tuckahoe 7-Eleven Next Month

How can the ZBA expect these highway developments to generate such low traffic volumes when you consider all the costs involved from land acquisition, building, borrowing, taxes etc.. Does 10 to 15 cars per hour pay the bills for such a project? Likewise should the developer not know that with such a low threshold his project is not economically viable. Did they envision professional offices there? Brokers, lawyers, medical offices. Is the rent consistent with what they could afford?
The KK project is estimating how much traffic? Seems they were more realistic in their planning. " Jan 28, 11 12:48 PM

Rechlers Seeking Amendments To Gabreski Airport Project

Thanks. So its their way or the highway. Seems to me that the town should have retained control of the project knowing what it wanted and then outsourced the parts. Now it seems limited to what the developer wants there." Jan 28, 11 12:55 PM

ZBA To Decide on Tuckahoe 7-Eleven Next Month

What would be a highway business then? I don't exculpate the developer. He should have done a better analysis of what would work there or not. Likewise on the town approval side they should have some notion of what is workable or not. Otherwise we will end up with a whole lot of empty there, bankruptcy, no tax revenues, eyesores, etc. etc.. In light of the businesses that had given letters of intent, I do not see why a 7-11 would not qualify as a highway business. IMO its better to have one on the highway, as opposed to the village.
I suspect that when the zoning was done it was with the best of intentions. When the project was conceived and approved it was with the best of intentions by all. But now the underlying environment and assumptions have changed. The options could be stick to the plan,or zoning, or to accommodate it a bit. Why not try to make it work? " Jan 28, 11 1:55 PM

Its not a greenfield project, the stores are there already. Its not a big box store location either. What else would work there in your opinion? " Jan 28, 11 2:21 PM

A used car dealership. Would that work as a "highway business"? " Jan 28, 11 10:31 PM

They could always lower the speed limit to 25." Jan 28, 11 10:35 PM

Rechlers Seeking Amendments To Gabreski Airport Project

"Are there no human values which surpass greed?"...New and Improved Greed... " Feb 1, 11 10:19 AM

ZBA To Decide on Tuckahoe 7-Eleven Next Month

Well BF may not be too far off the mark. "7-11" has become sort of a cliche for hiring day laborers throughout the area. Maybe this location, with a bus stop, may be a good place to put a "hiring hall" if the proper funding could be had. Of course, it would need all the proper approvals and support. Just a thought..." Feb 1, 11 10:38 AM

Does anyone have a definition yet for "highway business"? I could not find one in town zoning web site. It seems to be a subjective term. What is acceptable to some is not to others. So what is allowed there? " Feb 1, 11 4:21 PM

View The Kabot DWI Police Tape

Did we watch the same video? " Feb 2, 11 11:07 AM

Editor: Please note the quality of the transmission of the video from around 9:30 AM to now 1:36 PM has deteriorated especially, in my case, after the 4 minute gap. Its breaking up a lot as opposed to the clear conversation earlier. Can you please look into this." Feb 2, 11 1:38 PM

Oops I just saw your note TY. Disreguard." Feb 2, 11 1:38 PM

Nature, yes I had the audio running the whole time and had a different characterization than Razza about what I saw. Overall I don't feel she was swerving all over the road. Her first swerve we see on the video, as the police pull up behind her, is to the right. That was the biggest swerve. It came at the same time that an SUV was cumming from the other direction with their high beams on. She might have swerved to the right because of the lights as she looked away. I don't know. Then she proceeds normaly down to the corner and drives on the double yellow line, going over it slightly, and redressing back as a car came around the corner. There were parked cars on her right. That and the fact that she was about to make a left turn help explain why she was so far to the left. She swerved slightly and crossed the yellows but was not swerving all over the place. She approached the stop sign fast for my taste and in my opinion did not make a full stop. She proceeded down the road until pulled over without swerving all over the road. Even the officer said "you were swerving slightly" as his reason for pulling her over.

Breaking constantly. She braked noticeably on three distinct occasions. At the beginning of the video its not clear why to the viewer. Could it have been the high beam of the SUV or something else. Can't really tell. Then she was braking as she approached the intersection to slow down for her turn. Which I found too fast anyway. Then she had to brake again after the turn to allow the pedestrians to pass. She continued to drive until she was pulled over.

In no instance did I find her speech to be slurred. Her voice was crisp throughout. I think she digressed in certain places ,as you have pointed out. I did not hear the statements as clearly as you transcribe them. But they seem nonsensical and paranoid.

She's feeling victimized and defensive. I think we all loose it a bit when we are pulled over by a policeman. One moment your driving down the street and all is well, the next your pulled over by a policeman with the lights flashing the headlights on your car shinning at you. Your heart is bound to be racing and your adrenaline going as well. Your not going to be thinking or behaving at your best and most rational. Your put in a defensive position with an authority figure. Uncertain because you otherwise consider yourself a good driver and relatively sober in her case. All of a sudden your not. Your scarred. If you question too adamently your accused of disorderly conduct.Right? Add to that your public figure running for reelection and here you are exposed in the middle of main street. On top of which you stood up to the Police union and you fear this is payback. That I think is the mindset she put herself in and came to believe as truth. Or just an elaborate scheme for self-defense. I don't think she was that calculating at that point.

Her sobriety tests are not to clear to me. I luckily never had to take one. I see what you claim about not understanding instructions. In the first test, even the officer moves his head when giving her the instructions about following his finger and not moving her head. She got it on the second or third pass. What that is supposed to indicate to the officer? I don't know.

Then test two, it was messy at first. It seemed more like a dancing lesson than a sobriety test. And, if you have ever taken dancing lessons you would understand why sometimes the simplest instructions of what to do with your feet can seem more complicated. Anyway, what is more important: how fast you understand the instructions or how you perform the test? On fith step out of nine she stumbled. What is this suppose to indicate to the tester? I don't know. But she did not loose her composure and continued to the ninth step ok. Then she walked backward. Was she supposed to or turn around? I think the officer wanted her to turn around and walk back and not backwards. Again I don't pretend to know what that is supposed to indicate. I noticed that the officer did not interupt her though either.

Test number three, the leg lift and count. She did it as I recall without stumbling. She only interupted after 10 one thousand to find out from the officer how much longer to go. I tried that test myself sober two cups of joe and had problems with my balance. In my opinion, that test is only good to indicate whether you have good balnace or not. I don't see what it can tell you about sobriety because I think that if your drunk your not gonna last 20 seconds.As she did.

All in all I think she was cooperative with the officers and the tests. A little incredulous and fiesty here and there yes. But she went along. Then they disappear for four minutes into their cars turn off the microphone to the cam.

The officers claim they were testing the cam because they wanted to make sure it was working since they had a high profile DWI. That is what they testified to and not on the video. I am no expert on dashboard video but I cannot tell that they were testing the cam. The cam stays on the whole time and the microphone off. I see no indication of a cam going on and off to make sure it is working or a microfone likewise going on and off . You know the old "test test test".

I think that this gap in the sound on one of the most important pieces of evidence is significant. The jurors are only allowed to see the parts about Kabot, but they are not privy to the discussions between the two officers or third parties? What was being discussed?What was she observing standing for four minutes on the street? This is key to me because it is when they come out of the car, after that lull, that her cooperative demeanor changed. She for one reason or another decided she was not going to play along anymore come what may. Was it the fact that she was left to stand there in the middle of the village in front of the police car flashing lights and lights on her for four minutes for all to see that humiliated her and pushed her to become uncooperative? Could be. (I could not help but notice the number of police vehicles passing the scene during this tape. One cruiser at the beginning passed them, then a little later an SUV police vehicle, and then a police golf cart. Was that coincidence?) I s it standard DWI procedure to let the driver stand so long outside their vehicle. When ever I have been stopped, as driver or passenger, the police always asked to stay in the car.

After the gap incident for whatever reason she said enough. Several times she explained what she wanted to do and why she did not want to take the breathelizer. The police officer explained to her the consequences. She clearly explained why she would not take the test. Rightly or wrongly she accepted the consequences. Nothing indicates to me that she did not understand what was going to happen to her. Whether she was victimized, or playing the victim card, her sobriety was no longer the issue at that time but her reaction to the situation. In my opinion, I think the officers were more than likely doing their work when the situation started out, as they would do it with any one of us, it only became complicated when it became Linda Kabot. Likewise I thing her victim instincts may have gotten the better of her. She should have just taken the test based on what I've seen. I just did not agree with the out of control drunk driver characterization.

" Feb 2, 11 7:49 PM

Marked cop cars at night are not that noticeable. It is dark and their lights are slimmer these days. Additionally your rear view mirror is turned away to avoid the glare. Your not checking that often. To me the pedestrians were in the crosswalk. I don't think she knew the cops were behind her until they pulled her over. " Feb 2, 11 8:15 PM

As a juror, as I look at the video and the officer standing in front of the driver I do not have a good view to judge how well they did on the test or not to determine if they are guilty. The four minute gap to me is also troublesome. It puts the rest of the video in doubt. I can't help but notice that they drive all the way to the station with it on. But shut if off for four minutes. Anyone notice how she was never Miranda'd after her arrest?" Feb 2, 11 9:05 PM

I noticed the Miranda issue too. Normally, as seen in TV land, they give them when they cuff you. lol." Feb 2, 11 9:17 PM

What a relief. Here I thought I was normal all this time. I'm glad to know I'm abnormal.Truly. Normal is kinda boring...:)" Feb 2, 11 9:28 PM

Because property owners and taxpayers have to support these high salaries. And are they really necessary? The police is one of the highest expense for the town. So I think it is natural to keep this cost in check like others. " Feb 2, 11 9:40 PM

Nature, by chance do you own a little yelllow toy bus? ;)" Feb 2, 11 9:50 PM

It might be considered disorderly conduct and assaulting an officer to boot..." Feb 2, 11 9:57 PM

oops coming..not cumming..blushing." Feb 2, 11 9:59 PM

View The Kabot DWI Police Tape

Ok so based on what your saying she failed all those test and that is why they wanted to move to the breathalyzer? Now I understand how these tests are supposed to work. Are you mentally impaired if you did not understand the instructions clearly? " Feb 3, 11 8:46 AM

Well I think they are interesting to watch and a learning experience. I have learned a few things and can now practice sobriety tests. The follow my finger don't move your head test, the toe to heal imaginary line test when i say go test, the lift one leg and count until i say you can stop test...Are there anymore? Touch your nose with each finger of each hand test? The don't puke on the cop test, wait till your in his car then puke test..." Feb 3, 11 1:46 PM

In my mind the video is inconclusive. Its not so slam dunk as you would characterize it. Different people on here have had different interpretations of it. I think many of the people on here are heavily influenced by our experience of LK as a board member and supervisor. I think a jury is not going to be as sanguine towards her as some imagine or wish." Feb 3, 11 1:53 PM

Nature do you think the fact that LK had the courtesy to introduce herself to the officers influence their courtesy and respect towards her? I think it gave them a heads up...Which does not mean I think they would have been disrespectful otherwise. " Feb 3, 11 1:58 PM

Your not alleging that people with expensive cars can afford to hire local lawyers that can make these problems go away?" Feb 3, 11 2:11 PM

Your not alleging that people with expensive cars can afford to hire local lawyers that can make these problems go away?" Feb 3, 11 2:11 PM

Based on the film. If the cops were busting the cyclist during the gap, LK would have been focusing on that. During this period she is seen looking at waht is going on in the car and in the air." Feb 3, 11 4:32 PM

Jury Verdict In Kabot Case: Not Guilty Of DWI

Looks like the case is done. She won!" Feb 3, 11 5:31 PM

View The Kabot DWI Police Tape

My experience with a side of the road breakdown in SH has been different. The officer tried to help me as much as he could. And only left after I called the auto club.
In general, i do agree with you about feeling targeted. The stalking is infuriating. The worst for me for this kind of behavior is in SH village. That is a reason I advocate against centralizing all activities and shopping there." Feb 3, 11 6:23 PM

This counting thing is so insignificant. A fly on a elephants ass. " Feb 3, 11 6:26 PM

Hopefully this pooch wont come back and bite us on the butt when she starts he lawsuits. Hope the insurance is paid up." Feb 3, 11 6:30 PM

Jury Verdict In Kabot Case: Not Guilty Of DWI

Anna is politically isolated and now totally discredited. She has no future here. Its a shame for her but she played with fire and got burned too. Such is politics." Feb 3, 11 6:37 PM

Well maybe not exactly. Aube was a union rep at time. So technically he was not a cop...Does this wash?" Feb 3, 11 6:48 PM

He was PBA president then he is now an officer again as I understand it." Feb 3, 11 6:51 PM

Bad visual Nature..no please not that one...I shiva at the thought...brrrr" Feb 3, 11 9:29 PM

Sounds logical, based on the drift above , that Aube wanted o show his gal pal Anna that he had the It if not the income. It was not about money it was biceps and triceps and abs..oh my...:)" Feb 3, 11 9:44 PM

Granted there have been a lot of violent drug related crimes here recently and it seems that the SH has had some success in staying on top of those. There has always been a drug trade out here. But it seems that that trade is changing from a small time dealer to a more violent and gang related business. The battle against this is not just a local police matter as we see with today's bust of a gang by the task force. So in that context it is acceptable that the officers have good salaries. But then we need undercover cops and not what we essentially have now and complain about: highly paid transit officers. Other changes are needed to along the lines of diversity and consolidation of these different silos of police departments into a town wide police department. " Feb 3, 11 10:04 PM

I love the whole bird not just her left wing.." Feb 3, 11 10:09 PM

From another report on the web:

Lengthy testimony ensued about the recording of Kabot’s arrest. Gonce said he has the first and original recording in his office, but said it is not labeled as such.

“Did there come a point in time when Officer McManus and Officer Lucas asked for a copy?” asked Gonce.

Gonce said the officers, who stopped and arrested Kabot, had asked to review the “first copy” that he had in his office.

They took the copy, he said, and “when they were done, the put it under the door.”

Gonce testified that he did not know how long the pair had the recording but that depending on his shift, it could have been between one and four days.

“Do you know what they did with it?” asked Keahon.

“I’m assuming they viewed it," Gonce responded.

Gonce testified that when he first viewed the tape, he did not see the gap of more than three minutes with no video. He testified that he noticed the gap after the ADA pointed it out to him.

Gonce also said the video was never placed into a locked evidence locker because it was requested immediately by the district attorney’s office.

And then the report concludes

[ADA]Shapiro mentioned the tape as it related to Officers McManus and Lucas, and said to the judge that there had been “no testimony that evidence was destroyed.”

“Oh, I wouldn’t be so sure about that,” said [Judge] Smith, adding that first, testimony had been heard about the digital recording being taken from the hard drive in the police car. Then, he said, testimony ensued and, “Oops!” he said, “a gap” in the tape was discovered a few months later.

“That’s the testimony,” said Smith.

Tampering with evidence to boot.

Its called vindication and absolution!" Feb 4, 11 11:18 AM

Well I was only trying to give a Clintonian interpretation...you know 'depends on your definition of what the word " is" is'" Feb 4, 11 11:54 AM

The defense rested yesterday afternoon and they have summation this morning at 10:00 A.M." Feb 4, 11 12:35 PM

Why bother. Just watch cable news...lol" Feb 4, 11 1:22 PM

All right... time for some fun here..: new summer drink combo..the Linda Kabot, of course ...Double white wine followed by a Bombay Blue Sapphire Gin shot...$45.00, cab fair included. " Feb 4, 11 1:39 PM

Really, I would not be surprised with that. How is that cost diluted across peoples tax bills given the greater population and property density. It would be an interesting statistic. " Feb 4, 11 2:03 PM

Please Nature not again...I can't contain myself...please stop..lol" Feb 4, 11 4:41 PM

You forgot the part about how arresting officers tamper with video of tests and arrest..It makes it a better tail..." Feb 4, 11 4:45 PM

Done!!!!" Feb 4, 11 4:46 PM

How do you handle the officers tampering with the video of the arrest after their supervisor had removed the copy from the car's computer." Feb 5, 11 9:11 AM

Littleplains. The accounting fiasco started way before her in the Heaney administration. Kabot at the instigation of of others on the board initiated the process of untangling the mess." Feb 5, 11 9:23 AM

Southampton GOP Screens Candidates For 2011 Campaign

As I remember it LK was not much liked by the republicans before this whole incident. She tossed Heaney overboard to become Supervisor. Then they tried to make Malone their candidate over LK. She had to fight her own party on that. So I would not expect any attempt on their part to push for her. That's if she's interested. " Feb 5, 11 10:09 AM

Green Light For Lighthouse Project

Nice location for a bar, restaurant, nightclub. Call it the "lighthouse". Use the money made to fund other preservation activities." Feb 5, 11 10:34 AM

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